Why do you HATE the left so much? The left wants CHANGE. They

>>742153415
>They fought
peaceful protestors who were protesting peacefully, just for showing dissent toward the removal of their heritage/historical statue

kys yourself to sleep if you think people shouldn't have their constitutional right to peacefully protest without persecution or violent opposition anymore.

fuck anyone who wants to claim their form of governmental dissent as being the only dissent that's allowed. fuck them to death

>>742153650
so much hate. why?

>>742153415
>You hate whiney fake transsexuals and their billion genders? Guess what: You can look away and noone gets hurt.
except for the people suffering from these delusions, they end up an heroing or mutilating their genitalia. real sad thing to see a modern society do.

but hey, you want you 5 seconds of attention on television, who cares how many kids are brainwashed into these delusions and end growing up as broken and damaged and hurt as the last general of suicidal body mutilators
>suffering delusions
>is told to just accept those delusions and to cater towards them any possible way, even if it means harming thyself
and yet this is okay in your eyes?
this is fine for the press to shove down our throats as being normal?

>>742153791
>you think people shouldn't have their constitutional right to peacefully protest without persecution or violent opposition anymore.
this is why
also rather tired of having to hide these cancerous shitposts.

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>>742153415
Op I don't have to support the left. I don't have to care about change or goodness or different opinions. All I have to do is worry about myself. and not have that right to be a totally self centered person infringed upon because someone fucking assclown deems my opposition to joining their globalist parade "wrongthink"

I hate the left because they are parasites. They want to tell me how to live. They won't let me look away. They want to take away my rights. My right to express myself, to defend myself. To pick my doctor or where I go for care. They want to tell me what I should be doing, that i am a nazi if I don't subscribe to their bullshit.

Fuck them. and fuck you too.

The left is much more authoritarian than you make them sound. People in Europe and Canada get sent to jail over Facebook posts, and liberals cheer or are at least indifferent. Don't pretend that mainstream liberals are libertarians.

And the thing about liberals being more educated is greatly exaggerated. Trump only lost the college educated vote by like 2%, and even won with white educated voters.

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>>742153925

Because I want white culture to be preserved and appreciated. I don't want to constantly feel hated and like everyone just wants to replace us.

Niggers cucks

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>>742153918
>I hate the left because they are parasites. They want to tell me how to live. They won't let me look away. They want to take away my rights. My right to express myself, to defend myself. To pick my doctor or where I go for care. They want to tell me what I should be doing, that i am a nazi if I don't subscribe to their bullshit.
/thred

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>>742153956
Say hello to ford and general fuckin motors you Antifa bastards.

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>>742153415
>spews a bunch of unverifiable assertions
>riddled with bad grammar, punctuation and spelling
>claims political affiliation is a sign of intelligence

>>742153918
Op right this on a chalkboard 1000 times or however long it takes

It feels like all they want to do is hate white people and destroy them and all their culture.

>>742154051
if you are radical over ANYthing then you must be put down. you can be a radical of cookies and push people to only eat chocolate chip cookies id rather have you jailed. left and the right are exactly the same.

>>742153918
So much hate. Why?
The government tells you where your doctors are. right and left will regulate that.

Left wants to
-let you live
-let you look away
-not take away your rights to express yourself
-give you rights

You are only a nazi if you want to kill others or have the same idiology as the NSDAP (nazi party).

If you think you are having your rights getting taking away because gays may marry, blacks may marry or live near you, then you ARE a racist. But you didn't say that now. So where are you being forced to look at something?

Leftists are a loud minority

Most people you speak to range from conservative to libertarian.

Anybody who replies to me is going to concur that they're either for small government or no government. I dare for a "liberal" to come along and genuinely and honestly say they want a nanny state that takes away gun ownership and increases income taxes for welfare and other total wastes of money.

I'm waiting.

>>742154157
of course, radicals don't want to cooperate their only aim is to bend everyone to their will or "re-educate" them

>>742153924
Nobody in Europe went to jail for a facebook post. (I don't know about Canada)

I know some people said extremely violent stuff on facebook and got fined in Europe. But you'd get fined (or jailed) for being spreading violence in every country of the world (even north korea)

Trump did not win with the white educated voters. Your numbers are wrong. Show me a source for that, that is not a blog

>>742154204
our rights have been whittled away over the last few decades by both sides, you're either a troll or a zealot

>>742154051
Hitler wasn't left wing. The "socialism" part of nationalist socialism was just to attract votes. Whatever we hate Hitler for, it certainly wasn't any minor hints of socialism he might have employed.

And both of them were heavily authoritarian, that's the real problem.

>>742154368
you illustrated the point of that pic rather well, it shows how people are sheeple whose perceptions are easily manipulated by those who demand unwavering control

>>742153941
That is the only valid opinion I read for now.
But the left wants to preserve culture too, you know.
You probably mean refugees and other minorities "taking over" ? As long as the democracy protects itself, this won't happen. (Democracy was destroyed in nazi germany. Hitler was voted democraticly)

>>742154150
see
>>742153751
>>742154367

>>742153415
>fought for freedom
more taxes and no weapons is freedom?

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>>742154051
I dig the Pitt online viral image graphics

>>742154204
>-give you rights
The left wants to GIVE me rights? How about those rights were mine to begin with?
Do the world a favor and slit your wrists.

>>742154051
Well, political affiliation IS a sign of intelligence.
There are numerous statistics that proof that.
And so is atheism. You won't find any mensa member who is religious.
Einstein (at the end of his life) and Hawking are atheists too.

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Op is a brainwashed lefty. No point in arguing or showing him the error of his beliefs. I'm afraid it's a lost cause gents

>>742154450
>But the left wants to preserve culture too, you know.
then why did they violently attack protestors trying to protect their heritage?

>>742154362
what right was taking away from you? Plase tell me

>>742153415
There's plenty of people who identify on the right that are intellectuals. I myself am a physicist and know many others who are that are Republicans as well. We don't typically talk about it because universities are usually very left and we don't want it to distract from our teaching. But honestly, the left is filled more with identity politics than logic these days. The modern progressive is not that of 100 years ago, which has become a much more moderate position. The only field that seems ridiculously biased at the intellectual level (from what I can tell) is social science. But that's filled with garbage thinkers anyway.

>>742154565
>rights can never be given
>they can only be taken
-
immortal technique

>>742154051
This guy gets +1 internets

>>742154067
Write

>>742154368
Hitler was not left wing. He was a right-extremist. Far-right!
Don't spread lies.
Any history book, wikipedia, historian agrees.

>>742153415
The average IQ (which I know you faggots love) is actually higher for those on the right than left (probably cause of niggers, but still)

>>742154666
your devil lies don't work here devil
you have been exposed as has your motion
i'm going to tell the vatican of your evil left wing doings be afraid, be very afraid, your father is going to bitchsmack you back to hell where you belong

>>742154567
MENSA is a circlejerk of nobodies that have pizza parties and give each other reach-arounds.

>>742154512
Depends in which country. USA probably got more taxes. True.
By having more weapons, you get less freedom.
Look at australia. More freedom than the USA and they basically prohibited guns. murder went down significally.
and japan? stricted gun laws in the world. around 0-1 firearm related killings every year

>>742153415
OP....you answered your own question. left leaners are generally if not almost entirely more intelligent and more educated than right leaners. not all...but the vast majority. this leads to a greater understanding of issues and acceptance of things different. again..not always...there are some shithead antifa out there.. but mostly leftys have the brains to be more civilized. if youre wondering.. im left socially but right fiscally. masters degree from illinois.

>>742154698
Source?
I tend to believe you, but the Bible belt is definitely dragging conservatives down.

>>742153415
>change
To what? There is no goal. Change in itself isn't a policy. There must exist a point in which society is optimal. On a policy of change, this is no optimal society, but rather just a constantly altering unstable one that will ultimately alienate a majority of its constituents.

But I know that there is a goal for this change and its Marxism Communism, which is utter cancer. Communists aren't people and shouldn't be treated as such.

>>742154604
privacy, gun ownership, free speech primarily
all of which is perpetuated by the republicans AND democrats, it's a classic divide and conquer tactic they polarize the people by creating a false dichotomy (dem/lib vs. rep/con) and while the population is distracted they slowly take away our rights in the name of security. this way they consolidate power and gain more control over society and the economy allowing them to make a profit and get away with anything they want.

people dont like the left because they hold a naive ideology relating to this question:

is it reasonable to assume everyone in society will be able to be a contributing member of society?

Liberals say no. And they don't hope for it because they know its not worth investment.

Conservatives say no. But they DO hope for it.

Whenever 10 men have the chance to rise above poverty, in a liberal society, 5 will rise. All ten will be provided for.

Whenever 10 men have the chance to rise above poverty, in a conservative society, 8 will rise. 2, however, will not be adequately provided for.

The reality is if we do what liberals would like (welfare state, failure is impossible, healthcare is free), everyone might be better off. But it comes at the very real cost of human potential. People need to be incentivized to do things. Those 3/10 people that rose to the occasion and succeeded on their own merit were able to experience something that is worth denying 2/10 men a secure life over, essentially.

Do we want to live 8 true lives?

Or do we want to live 5 half lives?

>>742154666
right wing-centrist authoritarian you mean

>>742154698
Nope. Statistics show exactly the opposite. Please show a scientific source

>>742154368
I bet you read half your exam sheets as well you uncultured fuck. Hitler's picture illustrates the Nazi part, not the Left part.

>>742153415
Your a retard if you think the the following are the foundational tenants of the left, especially if your talking about past political movement. change does not necessarily result in the lessening of suffer to the governed people.

Soviet union, Maoist china, cambodia until recently, and even the tentants of the rewandan genocide, and current argentina are all leftest socialist governments. equalliy over egality. Social welfare over individual welfare.
these are the foundational principles of the left today in america, and for the recent history.

they have undermined the capability for the vast majority of individuals ability to know what is best for them.

Some more concrete proof is in the populaces that have chronically been represented by the democratic "Left" party in the USA in recent history. Chicago, Newyork, LA, Seattle (Wage hikes were a great idea right?)... these cities are downtrodden with unemployment, high rates of all "blue collar" crime, and a social fabric completely decimated by the lack of any real community/ family structure.

Oh and the left undermined the structure of the family... you know the thing that has been proven to work for all of human history, and more recently in countless academic articles

>>742153820
>except for the people suffering from these delusions, they end up an heroing or mutilating their genitalia. real sad thing to see a modern society do.
I'm pretty certain some percentage of the population has always done this—an heroing or mutilating their genitalia. The "modern" age is not special in that regard.

>>742154802
>greater understanding of issues

You could watch cnn for 2 minutes and summarize the whole segment. The issues are whites and trump

>>742154957
And if you think you would be a better leftist central government leader, you should watch some Jordan Peterson on why that is a very arrogant thing to say.

>>742154825
>Privacy
was taken from you by the right! Always have and always will!
When the NSA got exposed, Obama was president, that is true. But who knows how long that has been going?
Leftists all over the world protested for many years about pricavy issues. The right always wants to controll that!

>Gun ownership
True. The left wants to take your gun away. Boohoo.

>Free speech
The left is for free spech! Always has been! Free speech and freedom of press is extremly important for the left. The right is for cencorship and against free speech!

>>742154778
>By having more weapons, you get less freedom

does this nigga really believe this?

>>742154858
There is some truth in what you say.
But by regulating as conservatives want, you take away the freedom of choice.
I rather have 10 people chose to live as they want, than 5 people who were forced to live.

and I do not consider anyone as a half-live. That is terrible. Same rights for everyone! Even lazy fucks.

>>742155095
Obama let the invasion of privacy continue
i have a right to protect myself from the powers that be
the left has always censored any dissent towards them and ascent for the opposition, just like the right

You want a solution? It's found in the middle.

-Guns stay
-Welfare for qualified people who are actually disabled.
- Death penalty cleans out prisoners with life sentences saving billions of tax payer dollars
- Illegal immigrants are removed
-It becomes easier to become an American citizen
- immigrants are required to have jobs.
- Housing projects are erected in states like Montana, providing trades for immigrants who take such jobs. Solving over population.

>>742154991
Difference: Not too long ago it was mourned and seen as an ill that needed to be remedied. Then a pedophile by the name of John Money came along and after a few decades of perpetuating his lies almost unchallenged, we now (are required to) celebrate and support those delusions that produce such suffering.

The left has controlled the wheels of academia for over a century now. John Money's lies and all the fruit they bore rest on the shoulders of the left.

>>742153415
>The left wants CHANGE. They fought for freedom, social equality, against racism,homophobia, xenophobia, sexism etc.

They have gone TOO FAR and they thought they could slide a dangerous Stalin-level politician into the office of President last year. President Trump saved the world by running and by serving.

Reject your ZOG programming. Revere and preserve your race.

>>742154957
So no change means we would have no technology, no internet, no women allowed to vote or work, fat fucks like you, people who think different, intellectuals, blacks, gays, etc. KILLED.
Because that is how it was before change...

>>742153415
>we don't hate the left
>we just hate

>>742154051
>>742154368
>>742154666

Quick question, was Stalin right wing?
No.

It displays what they see, not what they are.

>>742155204
Maybe the left in the USA did the cencorship.
But "traditionally" the left is against cencorship. france's and germany's leftists demonstrated (with sucess!) against their governments spying on them.

>>742154450
As long as the culture isn't white, maybe. Sure, that's a concern. The thing is, whenever anyone uses democracy to vote against something like this, there's this big leftist outcry against "racist" voters. And then it escalates to this. This is your fault.

>>742154778
Of course Japan has so few gun related crimes. They all kill themselves / each other with swords. That's not even a stereotype, it's cultural.
You can't compare Japan with the US, which have been founded with guns.

>>742155246
Those are only american problems...
Left and right-winged do exist elsewhere too and in different political parties!

Guess what: I am left and I am against guns (big surprise)
but also against illegal immigrants. anything illegal is wrong for the society!
Only if the illegality is wrong, it must be changed.

>>742155286
Trump saved the world? what kind of world do you live in?
Do you even watch news or even read his twitter?

>>742155417
>success
they made 0 progress, they are still having problems with mass surveillance and censorship
and traditionally left wing governments spiral into dictatorships to control the masses since they are easy to corrupt

>>742155260
>celebrate and support those delusions that produce such suffering.
and this is what is so sad to see in a modern society, especially one like our own which prides itself as being humane and genuinely caring of its people
>>742154991
just because people butchered people in the past, doesn't mean we should accept that behaviour today, in our society, which is vastly different to the ones of old

>>742155510
so you don't believe the people have a right to protect themselves?

>>742155544

Trump isn't Clinton. Clinton is evil and displays an insane lust for power.

>>742155544
>2001+16
>watching the news
Shiggity diggity

>>742155439
Again, another valid reason: Yes, that might be a problem with most leftists.
An outcry against racists should only be when it is true.
Trump implying all mexicans are bad (which he did) was racist. Trump (as much as I dislike him) demanding illegal immigrants to be removed is not racist.
Thr problem here is: Many think: Oh, Trump wants illegal immigrants removed? All immigrants are evil!

That is why many leftists then say it is racist. Because the message gets lost

>>742153650
kill yourself yourself ?

>>742153415
Too many fat slags with no regard for personal hygiene or grooming, the faggot manlettes that get pulled into their gravitational wells and the niggers that flock to watch

Oh and for the record, the diversity you want is not the diversity you need

>>742155510
>against illegal immigration
>so let's change the law so that it's not illegal anymore
>spitting in the faces of decades upon centuries of legal immigrants who worked hard to naturalize
>supporting an unsustainable population growth model, especially one that actively undermines social stability and order, not to mention being an economical nightmare

if this is an example of leftism, you're doing a good job of making the nazi scum look rather justified in their reasoning.

>>742155286
>President Trump saved the world by running and by serving.
THIS
being a politician is about SERVING your country
not about stealing more shekels and manipulating communities to fit your narrative/beliefs/opinions, or trying to get rich off speeches and trade deals with foriegn countries that do nothing good for your nation

>>742153415
>You hate Hillary Clinton and that's why you hate the left?
Haha Hillary is not even left, there's no left in your two party system. You only got right and far-right.

>>742154778
>Look at australia. More freedom than the USA
stopped right here.

Australia has a literal bureau of censorship restricting free speech, sale and marketing of entertainment, and loads of other black marks against its record. What you're saying is bold-faced lies.

>>742155553
They haulted the spying for 10 years now! The right wants to spy more. Angela Merkel is PRO the government spying on their own citizens!

"Normal" left wing governments do not spiral into dictatorships. finland, sweden, iceland, france, spain, uruguay, new zealand, australia are not becoming ditactorships anytime soon.

and countries like germany that are right-wing controlled right now, do seem very left -winged compared to american partys. no dictatorship too.

>>742155581
I think there are more important things than 87 genders, suicide or genital mutilation to worry about.

A few things we need to fix are heart disease, atherosclerosis, cancer, diabetes, stroke and so on. See the WHO for more info.

These +99 genders people are so small a part of society compared to the real problems I just called out. I don't have time to care or talk about the political gender problem. I really never gave a shit about gender.

The real answer is 0. If gender is a social construct, then there is no real gender. It also happens to be the the number of fucks I give about gender as an issue.

>>742155621
Trump shows more insanity and more lust for power.
Talking about "draining the swamp" and he is the foulest swamp of them all. The most corrupted american politican in the last 40 years!

>>742155693
Well, I'm glad you can at least see that. I hope more leftists will be able to see that.

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>>742155758
I am talking about illegality in general. YOu probably are a pothead. Guess what: it used to be illegal. then that changed!

>>742155830
I am not american, but it is true that the american "left" party system is far more right than any in europe.

>>742153650
>America fights long ass war to defeat Nazis
>Germany itself makes it capital offense to display Nazi beliefs
>B-BUT YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BECAUSE MUH CONSTITUTION

The founding fathers didn't even know what germs were dude. How the fuck are you going to try to defend this shit as an American. If it's racism, it's racism, but those "alt-right" folks look fucking retarded trying to talk around the subject when they're on the news.

I think minorities are a problem but I wouldn't stick my head up my ass and go "I'm just tryin to protect my white heritage!" as if that'll happen within our lifetime.

>>742155836
Still more free than the USA. Only Hong kong is more free:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-11-29/these-are-the-freest-countries-in-the-world

>>742155693
>Trump implying all mexicans are bad (which he did) was racist
mexico is a nation, mexican is a nationality, get it right you filthy fucking cuck.
saying illegal mexicans are harmful for your country is patriotic and heroic when faced against such odds.
and in no way shape or form at all racist.

>>742155694
kys means kiss anon, get with the times

>>742156013
>but I wouldn't stick my head up my ass and go "I'm just tryin to protect my white heritage!" as if that'll happen within our lifetime.

Fair enough. I can see where you're coming from. Kudos to you for doing it for fun

>>742153415
I hate the left because one they have their own idea of an ideal world they force it upon everyone. They will police what people say that they don't agree with and are delusional

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>>742156081
Okay: "it's xenophobic against a certain nationality". happy now?

Trump is bringing up hate and xenophobia against mexicans and mexican-looking people.

>>742155951
No, it didn't, moron. The Controlled Substances Act is still in effect, and Federal laws and statutes still overrule those of states and municipalities.

>>742156194
Not true. Cencoring and policing people who do not agree is typical for the right.
The left wants freedom of speech for everyone.

>>742156289
The world is bigger than the USA.

>>742155876
agreed. maybe we can find out together why the media would rather parade mentally ill persons infront of our children, and teach our children that it's normal to want to mutilate thyself, and to undergo life threatening surgery after making them disgusted with their bodies and have a poor self image, to the point of which you can call it brainwashing.

rather than dealing with the very real, and insanely harmful issues you brought up

>>742153415
That's the left I support

>>742156357
>>742155876
>A few things we need to fix are heart disease, atherosclerosis, cancer, diabetes, stroke and so on
honestly these two things, make me believe there is an american genocide actually happening.

>bury your head in the sand, it's another NK threat, don't worry about the food you eat, we have to report about more military budget increases and divisive racial tensions!

>>742156050
Arbitrary metrics. Fact of the matter is, in Australia you do not have a presumption of natural rights, and the state categorically - and in a very draconian fashion, at times - limits your right to free speech, free assembly, free enterprise, self defense, the bearing of arms, and the list goes on. That is not defensible. In America, the government at least has to go through the rigmarole of due process before it is empowered to curtail your rights.

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>>742156368
I'm not alone? wow!

>>742156353
But this thread is about the USA and its politics. Don't go shifting goalposts.

>>742156315
They want to censor racism, sexism, anti feminist, fashism, xenophobia, prejudice etc. That is NOT freedom of speech

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>>742153415
this is why

>>742153415
I don't hate the left but I'm very cynical of anything they ever say because they have the "accuse your opponent of doing what you do" down to a science.

It was democrats who tried to keep segregation in the country. All those statues they're trying to tear down? Those generals were democrats, ironically. Members of the KKK were per-dominantly leftist.

Nazis were actually left-wing fascists.

Alt-left SJW's accuse white people of being racists and bigots while in the same breath singling them out for the color of their skin. Same deal with gender; check your privilege.

Limousine liberals like to complain about the 1% even though they're in it.

The same liberals who take private jets places and have three or more homes are the ones telling us we're polluting the environment through our excesses.

When a republican is president, the liberal media only reports the bad. When a democrat is president, only the good. It's amazing that Obama's approval wasn't higher, and Trump's isn't any lower.

>>742156013
honestly, you fail to recognize the actual issue at hand
it doesn't matter what the fuck people are preaching (obviously so long as it isn't harming another human being)
or what they're showing dissent of

they have the right to protest, and you better fucking hope that right stays in place, because there's not going to be anything to protect you when someone claims you're a racist even though your protesting the firebombing of your city.
and then you're violently attacked by a group of attention whoring psychopaths.

fact that the police weren't willing to defend the constitution is appalling. you guys have a massive issue with corruption that needs to be weeded out before you're enslaved by those same cocksuckers violently attacking peaceful protestors showing dissent

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>>742156471
I admit, I am not sure about Australia. But I know you america the governmentlimits your right to free speech, enterprise and free assembly way more than any other free country does! At least since 9/11

Australia not having the rights to bear arms is a step forward. And the reason why firearms related crimes and murder went down

>>742153415
Dude ur a bug fucking pussy. Plus i dont need to be constantly barraged with gay ideology and loose morals. The jews run this country u idiots. There is no left or right. Just a bunch of fucking idiots that think theyre opinions actually matter. Get fucked and die.

>>742153415
cos i've lived under left governments

>>742156263
no, he shined a light on the very real issue and problems illegal immigrants are causing every american, from the poor to the rich.

educate yourself, or watch one of his speeches on the topic.

>>742156499
It isn't. I made the thread. I am not american.

>>742156527
Racism, sexism, fashism etc. does not belong to freedom of speech.
Worldwide.
You cannot just go around and spread hatred and say "it's mah freedom of speech!"
You may critisize a black person, gay, woman whatever. but not because of them being what they are.

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>>742154604
What right?

This is a white nation. I do not believe that to be a racist statement. It was founded by white men. It is built on white values and white sacrifice. I am happy to welcome immigrants. But they must remember they are guests here, and being extended a great gift. I have a right not to be called a nazi because these things are important to me.

I believe in the right to enforce our borders. I believe English is our native language. Not spanish.

I don't want the government making any medical decisions for me. I don't want them paying for my operations, I don't want them deciding what drugs I can afford. it is none of their business. If I die because I can't afford it then that is my fate and I will accept it. I have a right to defend myself, and a right to appreciate my heritage without deshawn or travon telling me Im a racist because I like the race that I am.

I don't want them involved with social security either or welfare. These are huge cornerstones of what the LEFT is. Taking my money to give to someone who is too lazy to hustle and earn for themselves.

>>742156599

>It was democrats who tried to keep segregation >in the country. All those statues they're trying to >tear down? Those generals were democrats, >ironically. Members of the KKK were per->dominantly leftist.

You are confusing something:
Back then democrats were right-winged! KKK was not leftist - they were predominantly democrats!
That all changed.

>>742156771
Who decides what is "Hate" speech friend? Today its nazis, tomorrow it might be independants or liberals. Hate like love is part of the human condition and you can't outlaw our emotions. Attempting to do so makes you a Fascist. Hate speech needs to be protected everywhere because if its not, then those people meet in secret. Speak in whispers and plot to do great damage to us all. Transparency the solution to almost every political problem.

>>742156357
>why the media would rather parade mentally ill persons infront of our children, and teach our children that it's normal to want to mutilate thyself, and to undergo life threatening surgery after making them disgusted with their bodies and have a poor self image, to the point of which you can call it brainwashing.

remember all those MADD advertisements about poor self body image stemming from the media/advs leading to anorexia, bulemia etc
remember all those statistics and findings of how influential the media is on people suffering these disorders...

yeah after finding out all of this, they decided to force feed being a trans as the new anorexia to the next generation of children. quite surprising that no one seems to give a fuck about people wanting to mutilate themselves, but being anorexic was sooooo much worse somehow...

>>742156771
except for OP
he gets called a faggot everytime all the time simply because he's OP.
deal with it, fag.

I personally supported Hillary Clinton. I live in a neighborhood where the majority is black and i enjoy it. I like my neighborhood and not every black is a drugdealing thug in fact ive met some adorable nice young black guys i fell in love with. I contributed to my nation by giving birth to 3 sweet mulatto bois. Tho even their father left us we have so much support from our neighborhood community its amazing. CNN and NBC tell the truth. Trump is a nazi fascist war monger and i despise him. My life a my 3 mulatto boys i love them with all my heart

>>742156830
>This is a white nation. I do not believe that to be >a racist statement.

It's not racist to say that. But it is not true. When you say that, do you exclude all millions non-white persons living and paying taxes?

> It is built on white values
That sounds kinda racist. Love and peace or freedom are not "white values".

>I believe in the right to enforce our borders.
Sure, you can do that.

>I believe English is our native language. Not >spanish.
This can change. It will change too. If you're american, you're english is already different now than it was 100 years ago.
And before that native americans lived on that soil and spoke other languages.

>I don't want them involved with social security >either or welfare. These are huge >cornerstones of what the LEFT is. Taking my >money to give to someone who is too lazy to >hustle and earn for themselves.

It is left, true. But you cannot live in a country that pays you streets, security, infrastructur etc. and expect to not pay taxes.
some of your taxes go to building shit you need. and some of the taxes go to less fortunate people. or someone who gets temporarily sick.

>>742153415
Because fuck socialism you faggot

>>742156914
The government decides what is hate.
If you say "all niggers must die" that is usually racist.
but if you can proof you said that during a comedy show, by imitating a KKK member, then it should be free to say so. that is freedom of speech too!

>>742156915
>being anorexic
all those people hospitalized for this shit.
>wanting to chop off your dick is normal and should be on t.v and all over schools though!

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>>742157093
that's how faggoty I am?

>>742157129
Not sure if you're serious.
I am no Hillary fan, but I don't get why people hate her so much. She just seems unsympathetic

>>742156643
All crimes and murder have been on a steady downswing since the early 1990s in America, which is still ongoing despite the rioting by leftist extremists. During these last three decades, the proliferation of legal gun ownership has in various ways gone up across the board in America. The largest concentrations of violent crime - especially those committed with firearms - happen to be in areas of the country wherein firearms are restricted to the most draconian extent in the nation by state and local laws. Conversely, in the parts of America wherein gun control is the loosest, violent crime - including that involving a firearm - is the lowest.
Going by that data, stricter gun control for Americans is counter to the aim of supporting a safer and freer society.

Also, your first assertion is unsupported.

>>742155294
Thats not was implied. I said change is not always good.
The premise of the threads original argument was "left wants change." this is a drastic over simplification in what the left wants. and i specified for you, asscrap.

And the left wants to equality rather than egality, in the same notion of "if everyone cant have it, no one can." the tenants of the american right have arguably changed but have always stayed to the side of less government infringement, and more individual freedom and choice. so actually its was fat fucks like you, who are on the left that actually kept people who looked and talked differently from voting... It was the left that kept black people from voting just as it was the left that are keeping black people down.


all that good technology shit have come from the invention via individuals rather than a collective. it is individuals, or small companies that really do the bulk of US RnD, excluding some major outlier like tesla, etc.

maybe be more careful about what and how you read, as well as what you say.

Oh P.S. and to say that intellectuals are killed by the people on the right "Less government infringement" is at least revisionist history bull. (At least in recent history). At the most its straight up lying to push an agenda. Maoist chinas cultural revolution, stalins purge, north korea's and cambodias purge. yeah it was the far left that wipped out the intellectuals, and "people who think differently." oh and for the gays and others, we should as the leftest russian, North korean, or chines governments how they think about it.

(Clarification: Left and right are in relations to the political spectrum of "more government power"<----->"more individual responsibility" respectively)

>>742157329
no that's just gay.

see the OP as for what to look for when searching for a faggot.

>>742156681
says anon, on a board where user IDs are disabled. sure, pal.

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>>742157139
You nitpicked all my answers bro and like a typical liberal you missed the points.

>It's not racist to say that. But it is not true. When you say that, do you exclude all millions non-white persons living and paying taxes?
I call them americans if they came here legally. They came to be a part of this great nation, not to be african american. but American. The way our grandparents who were poles and italians and irish did. They took american names. They ASSIMILATED!

>That sounds kinda racist. Love and peace or freedom are not "white values". If that sounds racist then I take it as a complement. of course they are white values. See a lot of freedom and tolerance in saudi arabia or the middle east do you ? See a lot of equality in tribal africa? didn't think so. Indians have the caste system. Asian values are on par for the most part.

>Sure, you can do that.
I know. with Trump, we ARE doing that.

>This can change. It will change too. If you're american, you're english is already different now than it was 100 years ago.
>And before that native americans lived on that soil and spoke other languages.

Natives are not americans. They are natives with thier own languages. and they live in their own communities. But if they want to start a business in the city, or work at the airport or drive a taxi, they better be able to speak fucking english. They should not be granted admission to the nation if they can not.

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>>742157139

>It is left, true. But you cannot live in a country that pays you streets, security, infrastructur etc. and expect to not pay taxes.
>some of your taxes go to building shit you need. and some of the taxes go to less fortunate people. or someone who gets temporarily sick.

Sweet christ, I never said I didn't want to pay for roads or power or infrastructure. those are not personal things. my medical decisions are. My ability to defend myself is. my choice for how to spend my reitrement money is. I don't need it taken from my pay. Charites can look after the less fortunate. That is not the job of government.

>>742157479
Russia is right-winged.

And you are wrong about your "carification". Left does not always want more government power.
And right does not always want individual responsibility!!
It is actually more the other way around.

One example: left wants you to decide if you abort or not.
right wants to make it illegal by the government.

>>742157700
You are talking about the religious right. The libertarian right don't give a shit if you abort or not.

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>>742157547
why should an american talk about left and right and not "democrats and republicans" ?
Why would he put a french leftist movie as a photo?
why would he mention antifa?

>>742157740
if you're dumb enough to have sex without a condom then want to abort, you should probably just abort yourself
though if i were a girl there's no way in hell i'd want some disgusting parasite growing inside of me for most of a year, then have to waste the rest of my life on raising said parasite

>>742157590
Interesting view.
I strongly disagree though.
Governments have to help tax payers when they need it. If you never pay taxes and live off welfare, you're a parasite.

>>742157882
so rape victims may not abort?

>>742153415
>The left wants CHANGE. They fought for freedom, social equality, against racism,homophobia, xenophobia, sexism etc.
Change is not by definition an improvement over the original situation.

>The left wants freedom of speech! For everyone!
citation needed

>The internet used to be almost exklusivly used by leftists.
citation needed.

>Basically ALL important philosophers, the whole movie industry, science-fiction and fantasy authors, intellectuals, they're are all left. Wouldn't you want to be among intellectuals, instead of being uneducated? So you love Harry Potter, Star Trek, Star Wars, Lord of The Rings or Game of Thrones , Batman or even Alien: They're ALL written by left-thinking authors!
There's a name for this fallacy and I'm too tired to remember what it is.

>You hate Hillary Clinton and that's why you hate the left? Guess what: She is not THE representative of the left way of thinking.
I dislike Hillary Clinton because she's an insincere globalist aristocrat and I don't agree with her policies. I dislike the left in general because I find them sanctimonious and obnoxious and I don't agree with their policies.

>You hate whiney fake transsexuals and their billion genders? Guess what: You can look away and noone gets hurt.
It would also not hurt anyone if transsexuals were to shut up and stop demanding that society cater to their every whim.

>Now please don't confuse left-extremist (like the antifa) with the left, because then you'd have to compare the right to the right-extremist like Hitler or the KKK.
Your entire understanding of politics appears to be a series of broad generalizations.

>So why, why do you HATE the left so much?
Because they make shitty bait threads at 5am and I always fucking respond.

>>742158064
And I'll just give myself a (You) since I know OP is long gone.

>>742154567
>proof that
>you won't find any mensa member
certainly not here

>>742158064
i agree with you sir

>>742158097
OP is here.

>>742158064
OP does not write at 5 am. OP does not live in the US and A.
Why do you think everyone here is american?
is your world really that small?

>>742158136
I am one. Or rather used to be.

>>742158050
didn't say i was for or against abortion.

idk what would make you think rape victims shouldn't abort rape babies, that's just fucked up.

I don't like the left because they believe in big government. I disagree with welfare and socialized health care. I don't agree with how my portion of taxes get spent with larger government roles. I don't believe in the redistribution of wealth regardless of how much money the 1% has. Aside from all of the actual government stipulations, I hate the virtue signaling the leftist ideology has made mainstream. I dislike the idea that people may infringe on my way of living to pursue a social agenda, and I hate the idea that people can avoid personal responsibility. That is why in my opinion the left can go fuck itself.

>>742153415
>The alt right is getting is getting so much flak at the moment that they start making false flag bait threads again.

>>742157868
>why should an american talk about left and right and not "democrats and republicans" ?
happens all the time across a myriad of contexts.

>Why would he put a french leftist movie as a photo?
that's a hallmark of hipster douchebag college students. "why would they wear a shirt featuring the face of Argentine/Cuban revolutionary Che Guevara?" same thing.

>why would he mention antifa?
because like other ideologies and organizations of Marxist descent (especially in the age of the internet), Antifa has branches in many internet-equipped modern nations.

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>>742153415
Leftists think they're the good guys. This is what antifa believes when they're going around causing problems1q

My biggest gripe about the left is how they claim to want free speech, but immediately become hostile towards any thoughts that don't align with their own.

I'm afraid to express my political views at work because of all the hatred against Republicans. That Google employee getting fired over that email he sent out only confirms my fears.

>>742158299
> Why do you think everyone here is american?
Because you specifically mentioned Hillary Clinton which suggests a connection to US politics, plus you mentioned Harry Potter and Star Wars and a bunch of other US movie franchises. Also, I assume that at this point any post made from Europe would be written in Arabic and accompanied by a page from the Koran.

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Why do you refuse to believe that demographics matter? Why do you want all white countries to be filled with non whites thus bringing down the quality of the country? Middle eastern, africans, and Mexicans are all third world people and yet you want them here. The IQ of the country is going down cause of Mexicans coming here where as on average theirs is lower. "B-b-b-but they take daaa jerbs that no one else wants" what a dumb excuse. If you honestly think Mexicans for example can keep the quality of life in the U.S. this high just take a look back in their country. Same goes for all refugees. They don't bring shit besides problems

>>742158527
Yeah cause leftists and communists don't shit post on here crying all day huh

>>742158995
>higher job competition
>further death of the middle class
>more poor class citizens
all so that they can get away with horrendously low wages, horrible work conditions, and more homeless people to make do your dirty work for you.

why the fuckwouldn't you want more of these people as an elite?
they also have a high chance of killing your competition without you even needing to be involved.
it's all winning on this gravy train

>>742158995
See i could live with mexicans. They are not the same as ape men from Africa.

>>742158592
Rightists they they're the good guys. This is what KKK and nazis believe when they're going around causing problems1qqq

>>742158801
Being hostile or "offended" is not important. as long as you can keep your free speech

>>742158934
I hate the Koran (and the bible). so no.

>>742159393
*tips fedora*

Too much jew falseflagging in here.

>>742153415
the left has become sexist towards men
racist towards whites
irrational tolerant towards all non white males
they support islam - an ideology which is as bad as german nationalism (im a german)

thats why

>>742159530
>an ideology which is as bad as german nationalism
lol nazi's didn't want to mutilate and sever body parts or stone you to death for adultery.

sharia is infinitely scarier than the worst propaganda about the nazis

>>742153650
Yes, that guy drove his car into a crowd as part of a "peaceful protest."

>>742159355
>>>742158801 (You)
>Being hostile or "offended" is not important. as long as you can keep your free speech

While my speech may be legally free, I am not able to speak freely. Even if I don't get immediately fired, how am I supposed to work in an environment where liberals are openly hostile towards my ideas?

I'm not going to create that kind of tension between co-workers, people I have to see every day just to make a political statement. I'm just there to do my work and get paid for it.

>>742153415
They support the destruction of western civilization.
Communism is a predominantly Jewish invention.

>>742153650
It's called passive resistance and it's literally the best way to invoke change in a society. They're in good company with the likes of Gandhi.

>>742158004
Governments can help those people by providing tax cuts for private institutions to help those people. Not by creating the institution itself.

>>742159530
It's called balance.

>>742160233
i am a white man and i do not care for your balance. fuck off

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>this pic summarizes the alt right

>>742153415
>The left wants freedom of speech! For everyone!

No, they don't. They want freedom to say what THEY want you to say.

>Why don't you want to live in a safe place, without war and hate?

Because the left would have that safe place be filled with savage niggers and they don't want me in it.

>>742159811
>driving down the street and leaving from a protest that was crashed by violent bigots attempting to stifle and oppress your constitutional right
>is attacked, hears loud bang, can't tell if it's a gunshot or not, definitely felt whatever the loud bang was even while in his car
you'd panick and piss your pants too faggot.

>>742160131
enjoy your deadlock between opposing sides, both fuled by fake news and bigots.

>>742160368
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/15/think-different-can-advertising-defeat-alt-right-propaganda

I see you.

>>742153415
i hate the left because they polarize everything as either left or right, the right is just as guilty of this of course.
to you and others like you i am a nazi, to right wingers i am a commie, one day you idiots will be drowned out when either you or your "opponents" take a step too far and are purged so the rest of us can live our lives from under yours or their thumb and authoritarian rule

>>742160412
Woah.. that narrative. Are you really that disillusioned from reality?

Well tumblr, you won me over. You can just lop my dick off, send me neetbux in the mail, and send Tyrone over with the lube.

Enjoy pissing in the ocean of piss.

>>742160483
>i hate the left because they polarize everything as either left or right
stopped reading there bc ur a fkn retard m8

>>742160613
i see you fell for the con as well

>>742160368
>repressed homo
>Rob Halford
hahahahahaha

>>742154802
Proof or GTFO

>>742154924
Please, post your statistics from the Anti-Defamation League

>>742159332
The kkk have like 500 hundred members which isnt even half of 1% of the countrys population. But apparently they're a huge threat. LOL please tell me how the kkk is relevant? Oh and I can't remember 10 incidents in the last yr that Nazis went around destroying and rioting but I can certainly show u what antifa has done. Fucking faggot commie apologist

>>742153415
We are rough with the left because they can take it. They are our silent guardians, watchful protectors. Dark knights if you will.

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>>742160368

>>742160879
those people should be done away with too...

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>>742160878
>The left are the good guys

>>742160949
fuck your revisionist /pol/ history. Yes the left is good and spoiler Hitler wasn't the left but the right.

>>742160517
>disillusioned from reality?
the reality where race baiters just baited you lefty cucks out for the whole world to see how anti american, how anti constitutional, how violent, bigotted, and intolerent you and your movement is?
yeah, i'm the disillusioned one hahaha

>>742161039
forgot to add anti white* to that list.

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>>742161010
so stalin was a good guy right?and dugal?

>>742161119
mao too, can't forget about him. he holds the current murder record. he was as far left as can be

>>742161119
They were actually right wing. You cant do communism with a dictatorship unless it's with AI. Absolute power corrupts.

>>742161271
you do realize that there's a difference between right wingers and authoritarians....right?

>>742161186
He was actually fascist right wing, true marxist left wing are about maximizing personal freedom not taking it away. Don't get it twisted.

>>742153918
You truly are a moron.

>>742161357
>fascist right wing
>communist
pick one you fucking libtarded cuckfaggot
don't you have some sperm to be succking out of a vagine right bout now?
the fuckare you doing here shitposting and lying to everyone on the internet for?
gtfo faggot

>>742161330
Not really, right wing is a term created to identtify those that support the monarchy and authoritarian regimes originally.. i know american political spectrum is a shit show but that's a fundamental of right win universally, they're very hierarchical in their philosophies and ethics.

>>742161426
nothing but ad hominem, not worth anybodies time.

>>742161357
Marx thought the proletariat needed to be controlled so that the means of production in their hands would not stagnate. So no, true Marxism is pretty authoritarian.

Also, way to assign everyone you don't like to the opposite end of a fictitious dichotomy. The left/right political divide is less meaningful than the toasted bread/untoasted bread breakfast divide.

>742161532
yet (you) still responded

>>742161560
>production in their hands would not stagnate. So no, true Marxism is pretty authoritarian
can you argue with that though? The means of production shouldn't be in the hands of the few. That's how exploitation happens. I think you can rewards good ideas and contributions without raping the people to eternity.

>>742161449
so the concept of authoritarian left wingers just immediately escapes you, you are admitting to be incapable of understanding that there is more than 2 sides in politics
also American politics is a two horse race so you obviously need to find better sources for information

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>>742153415
The Left fought for Communism, Mass Murder, oppression, social degeneracy,m degradation of society and destruction of nation states.

Also the modern Left in US is Anti White and Anti Christian

>>742161720
the proletariat is the working class - the masses - not the few. get your reading straight if you're going to talk shop about marxism, anon.

>>742153415
correction, the right faught for change, liberty and freedom. The left is trying to destroy whites, are not open for debate, demonize the oposing party and anyone who votes non democrat & want to take away freedom of speech and thought while importing votes with imigrants to regain and keep power. I had never seen a group as batshit crazy and dedicated into destroying the usa. I'm so fucking glad I realized when I did and left them.

>>742153415
LEFT ARE BETA
CUCKS
FAGGOTS
EDGELORDS
AND THE ONLY CHANGE THEY WANT COMES OUT OF MY PAYCHECK.

GET A JOB. PICK ONE OF THE 2 GENDERS. STOO BEING A FAGGOT. ANS FO THE FUCK AWAY AND SAGE

>>742161770
I don't support either side really. Historically they've both been bad and good. I think AI could eventually sort it out for us and make it work. I just like the idea of maximizing our personal freedom by any means, and both sides have done things to help that so I'm playing devils advocate for the left.

>>742153415
You want to censor freedom of speech. You want to control people. You want to instate communism.

>>742162198
god, could you be more low IQ.. not everything is simple.

>>742162248
i can agree with that for the most part, personally i see my self as a moderate right winger economically and very libertarian on social matters, but for the most part all the different parties often have good things to offer i just wish people would move away from the old red vs blue mentality since pretty much nothing is truly black and white

>>742162395
>could you be more low iq
you may want to start proof reading, also that anon is likely a 12 yo attempting to troll

>>742162517
exactly.. It's sad to see both sides squander their potential really.

>>742162624
especially when they squash the potential benefits of other parties or political philosophies, though i wouldn't call it squandering since it all seems a bit too systematic for it to be petty rivalry, i honestly think the hardcore right and left are working towards the same goal, first you distract the masses with a circus and while they aren't paying attention you introduce insidious changes in the name of making the country safer/more free. then when it's too late you swoop in and scrub up possible dissenters and opposition, then establish iron fisted legislation make a buck and get away with murder, makes sense when you think about the last few elections and the fact that all of America's main parties are authoritarian

>>742153415
The Left want White people dead. I'm White, and so are my friends and family.

I want to make sure we're safe from you fanatics.

>>742161425
Typical leftist response

>>742163385
>The Left want White people dead
Even if you took the most extreme fringe of the left I don't think this is remotely true. You've been heavily brainwashed.

>>742153415
>Why do you HATE the left so much?

I don't. Generally the well meaning left-wing voter simply hasn't had enough life experience to see the truth of the world. I argue my assertions because it is the truth I see. For this I am labeled a bigot, a monster, a racist.

Even still - I don't hate the left because I know that there will come a time when they finally see that a life is an amalgamation of individual choices and not society's inherent failings. When this golden nugget of realisation hits the left winger will flip and become a staunch ally of the right. I don't hate the left because they are simply generally good hearted people who are simply wrong.

> The left wants CHANGE. They fought for freedom, social equality, against racism,homophobia, xenophobia, sexism etc.

As did the right.

600,000 people died to emancipate the slaves. Do you really think that NONE of them were right wing?

Universal suffrage is bipartisan.

There is no institutional or systemic sexism

> Left was always against war and hate. Why don't you want to live in a safe place, without war and hate?

The right wing believes in fluffy bunnies, do you HATE fluffy bunnies?

Before the neocons, the right wing was typically isolationist in nature. It was the left who wanted to get into wars to bring civilisation to the savages.

>>742163587

>You can disagree or have different opinions, (abortion, adoption, taxes, national and international decicions) but you know what? The left does not want to take away your rights to have another opinion! The left wants freedom of speech! For everyone!

Except if it's "hate speech" right? The left doesn't argue as much as it shoults down. Every conversation I have with a Lefty ends in my identity being in question : "But you're a cis white male, you can't understand"

The left as a philosophy is a hegemonic one. Everyone will be equal which means everyone will have the equal opinion and the equal way about them. One way of thought, one way of action. No privilege and no way of expressing individual ideas or ideals.

This is an inherently authoritarian way and leads INEVITABLY to the destruction of the individual.

Basically ALL important philosophers, the whole movie industry, science-fiction and fantasy authors, intellectuals, they're are all left. Wouldn't you want to be among intellectuals, instead of being uneducated? So you love Harry Potter, Star Trek, Star Wars, Lord of The Rings or Game of Thrones , Batman or even Alien: They're ALL written by left-thinking authors!

This exemplifies my point - "Look at all these leftists who think the same way, don't you want to join us?" with the other option being labelled a dullard or an idiot. Collective thought is not free thought. Consensus is not revolution. The left doesn't even stand for the vaunted "worker's collective" any more and simply claims hegemony over education as if that makes them moral and pure.

> The internet used to be almost exklusivly used by leftists. (New technologies often are) Of course that changed, but lately the hate goes against the left so much. It seems like they're becoming a target for violence.

"The left wing are the first EVER political group to be targeted by violence"

Also citation needed.

>>742163620

> You hate Hillary Clinton and that's why you hate the left? Guess what: She is not THE representative of the left way of thinking. (She's not even the representative of the american democratic party!)

Except that she WAS. The left wanted her for president. Also it was for the WORST POSSIBLE REASON. Nobody cares that Hillary was a woman or that Obama was a black man. This doesn't make a political candidate.

The left raised Hillary and said "this is the best of us. This is the icon of our thoughts" Did you even watch the election?

> You hate whiney fake transsexuals and their billion genders? Guess what: You can look away and noone gets hurt.

You can leave statues in place and look away. But you don't.

The left really has no enemy at the moment. They're just looking for things to complain about. They go so far as to pretend that western liberal democracy is an absolute abscess on the butt of humanity and that it's all about white supremacy and colonialism. But at the same time they can't point to a better society and choose to live here.

We don't need to dramatically change society to cater for the 0.5% of the population that is transexual. Those that are trans require access to medical/health services, education, social welfare, familial support and understanding. This is nothing any more or less special than what anyone else gets. The left only took up the misguided cause to try and make a point that genders were somehow equal and as interchangeable as hairstyles. Anybody who IS transexual knows full well that gender is an embedded biological and social set of attitudes, behaviours and homronal/physical differences. It is VERY hard to transition and it's not something that should be done unless extremely necessary.

> Now please don't confuse left-extremist (like the antifa) with the left, because then you'd have to compare the right to the right-extremist like Hitler or the KKK.

You're acting like the right isn't compared to its extremes.

>>742163638
Have you ever read the news?

cya

>>742163562
I see thousands of people shit on Whites and talk about us dying out like it's a sport to them.

Across Twitter, Facebook, Reddit and YouTube.

"White people are to blame"
"Can't wait for White people to go extinct"
"FUCK WHITE PEOPLE"
"White people are all evil and deserve to be slaves"

I'm done with accepting leftists. Because they won't accept me.

>>742163638
It's like what came first the chicken or the egg. I'm anti fascist, like most sane people, but those antifa people ironically behave like fascist.

>>742163937
it's a meme, get over it
a funny one at that.

you should be done with them because they're intolerant bigots who will resort to violence against anyone who speaks out and shows dissent which doesn't follow their narrative

>>742163937
>I see thousands of people shit on Whites and talk about us dying out like it's a sport to them.
you got trolled by thousands of people then. I've never met a single person like that. Where do yo live?

>>742164143
New Zealand

>>742161271
>You cant do communism without a dictatorship

Fixed.

Plainly put they are dumbasses that wish to ruin civilization (and are)

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The new national anthem is "Where Is The Love" by Black Eyed Peas.

Facts.

Literally.

This isn't up for debate.

I can see you're not used to using critical thinking.

Really depletes my spoons...

>>742164215
>New Zealand
they have to manufacture issues it's so fucking boring over there
the most extreme sport of that country is hiking.

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>>742164295
The white hippy feminists and lesbos are the worst antagonizing and encouraging blm

>>742153415

Both commies and national socialists are extreme left, ie biggest cancers on this world

>>742164323
Eh it's a quiet part of the World, both a blessing and a curse.

Not much bad stuff happens here. Crime is good and people are reserved. You're right though, boring as fuck sometimes.

>>742153820
I'm sure you feel the same way about religion then, right? Mentally disturbed people who mutilate genitals and broadcast their delusionz on television to corrupt young children. Should get rid of that too eh?

>>742164050

Antifa are fairly awful.

Regarding your chicken and egg dichotomy though it's a little different because it assumes that the fa begets the antifa or the antifa begets the fa. Actually the farmer has to buy the chicken first. By this I mean : The government allows both antifa and fa to march through the streets, and shows distinct favouratism to the antifa mobs.

One of the contracts that we as free citizens have with our governments is this - we give up our rights to defend ourselves, with the understanding that the state, with its monopoly on legally sanctioned violence, will stop people from getting hurt.

The government has betrayed the trust of the citizens by allowing communists and racial supremacists to do whatever they want. Thus antifa and fa sprung up basically at the same time.

>>742164674

"No u"

Not an argument.

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>>742164674
religion is a means to control populations of stupid people which are incapable of thinking rationally.

i would like you to elaborate on "delusionz" and "mutilate genitals"
cutting a mans foreskin is disgusting and proven dangerous and harmful for men. same thing about those african villages which remove clits from females.

>>742164692
well i'd disagree.
the government did wrong when they allowed a violent group of people to disrupt and assault peaceful protesters.

the right to protest peacefully is protected by the constitution, not protecting those protesting the removal of a statue (regardless of their political, and ideological beliefs/affiliations) are still american citizens who don't forfeit their right to peacefully protest just because the only group that sides with their views are called racist supremacists.

pretty much the gov should be sued for the damages and wrongful death of the woman, as it was entirely their fault for allowing a group to violently attack those peaceful protesters in the first fucking place.

if the police simply arrested antifa fags and told them they couldn't protest until the supremacists leave, all of this could've been avoided. and the fact that they didn't protect the rights of U.S citizens which were clearly being violated by intolerant bigots (antifa)
tells you something much more sinister is going on.

>>742165364
I'm not sure that you do disagree with me tbh, you might want to read what I wrote again.

> The government has betrayed the trust of the citizens by allowing communists and racial supremacists to do whatever they want.

pretty much summarises your post.

I put it to you though, that this all could have been avoided way before you get to arresting antifa - All they had to do was leave the statue there and say "It's part of our history and demonstrates how far we've come in our freedom of thought and ideas."

>>742165966
that didn't matter, the city was planning to remove it regardless
and then those "nazi white supremists" who were showing their dissent of their governments actions, were violently attacked, and were left to fend for themselves as the police ignored the attacks on their constitutional rights and their persons.

the government are the only ones liable for the wrongful death of that woman, the hospital bills of those injured, and the destruction of city/personal property.

>>742166264

> The government has betrayed the trust of the citizens by allowing communists and racial supremacists to do whatever they want.

We are agreeing sir.

Why don't you like the way I put it? I'm genuinely curious.

>>742166479
not at all.

considering one group wasn't doing whatever they wanted, they were acting lawfully, and yet were still refused the protection of the state which is supposed to be there for every citizen, after being met with violent intolerant bigots attempting to oppress law abiding citizen

personally i hate facists, and think any racial supremist to be a fucking retard

but allowing another group to crash and destroy constitutional rights while the police sit back and watch, is apalling to say the least.

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Left, right. Neither takes us forward.

>>742153415
>The left wants CHANGE
There is your problem right off the bat. A good chunk of the country doesnt want "change" we enjoy things the way they are.

>>742166824

Yes, I'd personally call it a betrayal. Of the citizens. Because the police let the communists do whatever they wanted.

>>742167019
now we agree.
hopefully the ones at fault get sued out of existence in wrongful death and injury suits