Progs take away our Confederate statue, okay we lost the war

Replace him with Richard Henry Lee, the best Lee.

>>741869898
its so fucked man i'm no big fan of the south but this is totally revisionist history and it makes me sick. i got no love for hitler or the nazi's but when i see a die-cast model of a bf109 fighter plane at the store and it has no swastika on the tail it really pisses me off.

>>741870115
nah it should be a stature of Bruce lee with a plaque that says " we would have one if this motherfucker had been born in the south 200 hundred years earlier.

>>741870331
I'm a southern republican who voted for Trump and I have no issue with rallies against liberals, but when the KKk and skinhead nazis are concerned I condemn that shit. I'm not a racist. But on that note, I also believe that leftist BLM and liberal black supremacists are worse than the KKK and they should be fought against

>>741870477
won*

>>741870331
How exactly is removing a statue revising history?

>>741870521
No. You can't expect the South to spell it right. Watch what's going on in Virginia right now.

>>741869898
It is inappropriate for symbols of the Rebellion to be displayed by state and local governments. They should all be torn down and pulverized into gravel.

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>>741869898

>>741870669
Same way that taking down the plaque with the poem on it if the statue of liberty would be. Most of those plaques we're produced after they lost the war.

>>741870492
i dont even give a fuck about all those groups they will be around forever so its best not to get worked up unless they are pissing on your shoes. but when they want to whitewash history because they dont like parts of it that's when you should start getting mad. BLM and other hate groups will be with us forever we just cant let them defile history because of their feelings.

>>741870669
Because its erasing a monument that holds southern pride that people in that demographic actually value. People associate the south with racism and I don't believe that's a fair assessment because to southerners it had more to do with the right of the state to leave the union than it did about slavery

>>741869898

confederate statues should be melted down to build black-only luxury housing

>>741870978
No, they can kiss my white ass. And so can you

>>741870908

no they explicitly referenced slavery as their reason in their declarations of secession

>>741870807
There aren't that many Black supremacist who aren't black. It's like white supremacy, in that the majority of people who buy into it are of the race in question. Blacks are a minority. How many black supremacist could there be?it's like complaining about Jewish supremacist.

>>741871056

go buy another tiki torch bitch

Bunch of triggered racist white people.

>>741871081
Thats because the north made such a big deal out of it. The biggest reason was state rights.

With that being said, I support Californias right to leave the US

>>741870908
That is the revisionist history. They Confederacy wanted to protect the right to slavery.

But removing a statue does not revise history or how people view it. Your history books will read the same.

Waah, all right wings fags do is whine, Get over it. The South lost. Confederate generals are not heroes and don't deserve statues. The flag is a losing rebellion's flag. You don't even care about the statue, it represents nothing to you. You just some southern shithead who's got nothing going for him besides the color of his skin so you decided that's where you're going to put your pride. Join the military asshat and become a real man, see some real heroes.

>>741871131
I wasn't there but if I was I would have brought my AR15

>>741870908
>because to southerners it had more to do with the right of the state to leave the union than it did about slavery
Then they're ignorant about their own history, to the surprise of nobody. The rebellious states specifically declared their interest in expanding slavery in their declarations of secession and the Rebellion explicitly declared itself as a republic of slave owners. You can argue about whether or not states have the right to secede (they don't) but to imply they seceded for anything other than slavery is simply revisionists horseshit made up by long dead rebel cunts to justify their treason.

>>741869898
pro tip:
Don't fukking lose war
(and more importantly, do not complain when you do)

>>741871214
Whatever. The people of those cities paid for those monuments and the anti-white racist liberals only want to tear them down. Fuck that

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>>741870908
>it had more to do with the right of the state to leave the union than it did about slavery

>>741871223
The south lost but that doesn't mean it wasn't American history. This is all American history and all the left wants to do is take it away

>>741870978
Why? Can't we just sell them to Russia? They can put them in the state museum. Vlad owes us anyway. Then we can use the money to make even better suburban housing. That stuff is priceless, right? Don't melt down priceless shit. Sell it

>>741871338
I'll agree to that one. It is a waste of tax dollars.

>>741871223
this

>>741871419
Nazi statues were German history. You don't see them up in state parks. This shit belongs in a museum.

>>741870807
That's not what fucking white washing means, you absolute fucking mongoloid.

>>741871254
Every state has the right to secede. As a matter of fact, I want all 3 states California Oregon and Washington to secede, lol

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>>741869898
>us

The losers of a civil war don't get to be the "us". You become the "them".

>>741870714
They were erected by the state...

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>>741871503

>>741871577
The states should all be torn down and pulverized into gravel

>>741871537
>Every state has the right to secede
No, they don't. The Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White that the bond between our states is "indissoluble," this ruling has never been overturned. Secession is treason and illegal.

>>741871537
>I want 40% of the country's economy to secede

I hope you like paying out the shitter for basic goods. Cali's GDP alone is hogher than many countries.

>>741871503
The nazis were racists who almost killed an entire demographic

>inb4 slavery
No, most of the south never even saw a black person. Most of them were poor farmers

>>741871649
Thats why I support the south and secession rights

>>741871577
Yes and I clearly just said that is is inappropriate for state governments to tolerate monuments to treason. Nice reading comprehension Johnny Reb.

>>741871735
And that is why you are in the wrong.

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>>741869898
sure kid

>>741871677
white people were the real victims of slavery, since slavery pushed down the wages of the white Americans
/s

>>741870477
underage

2017: STATUES ARE RACIST

>>741871774
No I'm not, if a few states want to wing it on their own why is the rest of the country going to force them at gunpoint and with cannons to force them not to? That sounds like tyranny and oppression to me

>>741869898
Beeding heart liberal here...

And tearing down confederate monuments strikes me as really idiotic.

With the confederate flag, you can reasonibly argue it to be a hate symbol, because its no longer an existing nation so the leftover connotation is slavery. Flying it would be similar to flying a third reich flag...yea its history, but is that reaaaaly why you are flying it.

Confederate monuments are quite literally history though. They are a signpost of actual people and events that took place in american history. As long as Lee doesn't have a necklace of nigger fingers and a couple slaves in tow, then its not inherently racist.

When you tear monuments like this down, you just give assholes something stupid to rally around, and sort of legitimize their stated point.

>>741871930
Take it up with the Supreme Court, I'm sure your eloquent arguments will convince them to overturn a vital Reconstruction court ruling.

>>741871595
http://m.dw.com/en/the-house-of-disgraced-statues/a-18572557

>>741871419
>attempting to secede from America
>doesn't make it not American history
About that...

>>741871930
>wing it

LOL. How about asking your legs or arms to go wing it on their own. That's pretty much what the south states are to the U.S. economically. Texas is the only southern state that's remotely competitive in terms of GDP, and it's not as red as the Republicans would like you to think it is.

>>741871991
I'm a hardline conservative and Trump voter, but I actually agree with this anon

>>741871930
pacta sunt servanda

Cry more fag

I was under the impression that right wingers were against participation trophies.

>>741869898
I don't agree with the Confederacy but I agree that you should be able to keep it.

I am from an extremely liberal state (MA) and most people I know at least would agree that you deserve the right to celebrate whatever you want, nothing about a Confederate statue is offensive if you can accept the fact that there were AMERICANS dying on both sides of the Civil War.

We are all Americans now and you deserve the right to celebrate your history even if I do not agree with the message it stood for.

Anyone that is for tearing this down is against freedom of speech.

>>741871991
Forget racism, these are symbols to treason that southerners are defending. Do you think it's appropriate for defeated states of the insurrection to display monuments to their treason?

>>741872123
People like you are why D.C. cant get a goddamn thing done.
>implying quantifying your political leanings on a goddamn anonymous imageboard has any value or lends any credibility to your statements
You don't need to be in the same party to agree, nor does your political leaning add value to your statement whatsoever. All it does is imply that your opinions shouldn't agree since you're in opposite parties. Humans can fucking agree on certain topics without agreeing on all of them, and literally no one is obligated to only share the opinions of the party line. Jesus fucking Christ.

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Some Confederate music for this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5EHpok66SU

>>741872691
Anti American. Figures.

>>741872691
I wonder if this is what they sang to themselves marching away from their burning capitol.

>>741871081
anon is correct. read the state of georgia articles of confederation. mentions the " venerated and honorable institution of slavery". the more you know!!!!

>>741870733
A post asking for opinions about a current event is likely to get replies? Please, enlighten me further, brave memer.

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ffs northern cunts have no reason to be so smug. None of us had anything to do slavery or succession. Most of us do know whether or not our forefathers were blues or grays, not that it fucking matters. It just seems so pathetic to take pride in your righteous stance against slavery. Many northerners and even several blacks owned slaves.

>>741871200
states rights to do what specifically? If your state successfully seceded and brought back slavery within its borders, would you be as vocal against that as you are against taking down a statue of a loser and a failure?

>>741873316
yeah, but northerners don't put up statues of people fighting for slavery

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>>741873316
>ffs northern cunts have no reason to be so smug.
Except for the fact that we fucking won.

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>>741873472
No. Just paintings.

>>741873516
USA! USA!

>>741873516
(You) won nothing cringetard

>>741873751
yeah that's right, the South is fucking useless

No one would want to win this

>>741873687
you got me there

I am just glad to be German, proud and unbloody history, what a relief

Participation trophies.

>>741869898
Hide monuments of the past and people will repeat the past...

>>741873751
Why is it that Southerners get to be proud of their rebel cunt ancestors but we don't get to be proud of our ancestors putting down the insurrection like a rabid dog? My ancestors came from rural Kentucky, the family owned slaves but gave three sons to the Union army and two died on the field. Don't I get to be proud of them?

>>741873751
And you didn't personally lose anything, but you're real fucking upsetti about a statue, for someone who didn't fight for anything.

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>>741873900
yeah, because there are no mentions of the Civil War in history books or museums

both sides lost the civil war. it was a literal setback to american progress that's still dogging the south today. yankees bragging about winning it is just as pathetic as rebels whining about losing it. YOU BOTH LOST. THE ENTIRE BATTLE MEANT NOTHING. SLAVERY WAS ALREADY ON ITS WAY OUT ECONOMICALLY.

See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution
the left is doing exactly this.

also I agree with
>>741871991

>>741873912
that's quite the idiotic strawman babby boy. Almost no southerners are 'proud' of rebel ancestors. Sure, some somewhere but the vast majority don't give a shit.

>>741873980
My ancestors were northerners. I happen to be born in the south. I still think it's lame to destroy and try to bury american history. There already too many revisions. I keep seeing morons say how southerners hated blacks and the north were trying to save them lmao. Or how most southern soldiers were slave owners.

>>741874380
There's literally no better return on investment than slavery. Add up even minimum fucking wage for 7 years. That shit adds up.

What the fuck are you on about?

>>741875081

Nigger

>>741875081
nigger

>>741875081
That's like saying "Not everyone who fought for Germany in WWII were Nazis!"
Of course they weren't. But they fought FOR Nazis and Nazi ideals, whether or not they believed in them personally.

>>741875145
What are machines?
What are external (i.e. international) factors?

Protip: Beyond the pleb drive to keep an us vs. them mentality going, the real reason that people (pretend to) get offended by a war from the 19th century is that many of the southern leaders embody the exact same virtues of overwhelming honor, bravery, military brilliance, and patriotism that we all look up to in the revolution generation. This reality pains them.

>>741875472
Couldn't have been that fucking brilliant if they lost.

>>741869898
Democrats mad about statues of Democrats
so funny

>>741874829
>Almost no southerners are 'proud' of rebel ancestors.
Its almost like you k ow nothing about the sisterfucking rednecks we're talking about.

>>741875989
>implying political parties in America haven't swapped positions over time more than once
You either don't understand history, or that's a 3.5/10 on the bait scale.

>>741875989
idiot, you know damn well that this is a dumb argument

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>>741869898

>The cops broke us up but we are having more riots

Next:

This guy posting about how he hates nigger for rioting.

>>741873516
The north literally had some of the shittiest officers to ever see the field of battle. They just outnumbered the Confederacy 10 to 1. If Union forces we're actually competant the war would have been over in 6 months and way less would have died. But no. Lee, Johnston, and Beauregard fucked their shit up for three years. There's very little about the war for either northerners or Southerners to be proud about.

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>>741876314

>>741871665
No, he lives in Arizona and he's hoping that if California secedes he'll have oceanfront property.

>>741873980
Statues of people like Lee and Jackson serve as important reminders and representation of duty to ones state over the federal government. That should be something to be valued all over the Republic. Not just the South.

>>741869898
lol losers keep whining 160 years later

>>741869898
The south lost. Losers don't get to write history. All those statues to traitors should be pulled down. Furthermore, confederate graves shouldn't have markers. We didnt let Japan or Germany keep their flags and Hitler statues after we wrecked their shit did we?

>>741871665
>Cali's GDP alone is hogher than many countries.
>"many"
something like 90 % of all the countries

>>741876314
>>741876356
factual the south were Democrats that broke away to keep their slaves

the KKK was started by the Democrats to fight the republicans

Democrats voted against freeing the salves, give blacks the right to etc...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wz_0utCrm0

>>741873872
The Germans are taught about the Holocaust.

>>741876683
now the Democrats are calming famous Republicans are Democrats.. such bullshit

>>741874034
Plus the monuments went up after the war.

>>741876637
Except that's fucking treason, and super illegal.
But, y'know, continue to live in the fairytale of "the south will rise again."

>>741870908
Southern pride? Motherfucker I live in the south (born and raised). Southern pride is fucking retarded. Why have pride about being a traitor to your country, getting a bunch of your friends and family killed because you couldn't live without someone else doing your work, and being backward ass hillbillies? Southern pride in the confederacy is dumb as shit.

The only thing dumber is pride in the current south. A place with the fattest, dumbest, poorest, and least educated members of our country.

>>741876683
in case you are not trolling:

Parties shift positions over time. The only thing that the Democratic party of now has in common with the Democratic party back then is the name.

You wouldn't call Germany a Monarchy just because Germany used to be a monarch over a hundred years ago (even though modern day Germany is the legal successor of monarchistic Germany)

Just because something is the successor of something and has the same name doesn't mean it is the same (especially parties that can change quite rapidly)

>>741876477
Except for the fact that The Brits outnumbered The Americans 10 to one, and The Americans won, little over a century before.
So... No. Still won.

>>741876637
Well couldn't you make similar arguments about Manning.
He also committed treason but argued it was for a higher cause

>>741870115
Henry Lee Summer

>>741870492
You are clearly a racist.

>>741869898
At least they weren't destroyed. You can still go see the monuments...somewhere.

>>741870669
Removing the statue magically erases Robert E Lee from all memory and historical documents.

>>741869898
>Our
>Keep monuments to the South

You scumbag anti-American. The traitors lost, and if you want to pledge your allegiance to them and not the flag me and my military buddies would be happy to stomp your America hating ass into the reconstruction. The reconstruction of your face

>>741877214
Lee Harvey Oswald

>>741877457
>The reconstruction of your face
mature

>>741877537
I bet I'm younger than OP so you're right, and he will still get his ass thrown out of the country

>>741877149
The British we're a global empire with conflict happening all over the world. They had 3000 miles of ocean between them and the colonies, and it seems like you forgot about the French... Try again bud.

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OH
MY
GOD

HOW MANY TIMES?

THE US IS NOT A WHITE COUNTRY!
IT NEVER WAS, IT'S AN EXPERIMENT BY THE (((BRITISH EMPIRE))) WHICH FUCKING FAILED.

THE US WAS FOUNDED ON IMMIGRANTS, THE BRITS/EUROPEANS GENOCIDED MILLIONS OF NATIVE AMERICANS, AND YET YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO ACT LIKE THE KKK AGAIN?

I'M SICK TO MY STOMACH, YOU RACIST, SEXIST, HOMOPHOBIC, XENOPHOBIC BIGOTS NEED TO LEAVE THIS COUNTRY!

THE PRESIDENT, TRUMP, HAS ALREADY CONDEMNED THIS, SO WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO YOUR LEADER DRUMPF?

WE'RE COMING FOR YOU, ALT-RIGHT, WATCH OUT!

EVERYDAY, IMMA PUNCH A NAZI YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

>>741869898
> we lost the war
> let us have monuments

Why do you say, "us and we" as if you were a fucking confederate? You're not. You just live in the same region that confederates did over 100 years ago. You never fought a war or left the union. Your no more a confederate than a modern day Italian is a Roman.

What did E. Lee ever do for you? In what possible way could he be that important to the identity of someone born and raised in 21st century America? "Muh heritage," is a bunch of garbage and you know it. History has always been written by the victors and this is no exception.

>>741877681
>THE PRESIDENT, TRUMP, HAS ALREADY CONDEMNED THIS, SO WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO YOUR LEADER DRUMPF?

he is a northerner (and even worse from NY)

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>>741877681
but if it's not a white country who can I blame for being raycis? Checkmate atheist.

>>741877194
No. That situation has nothing to do with loyalty to the state over the federal government.

>>741875888
>Couldn't have been that fucking brilliant if they lost.

It's more complicated than that, but nice try. Educate yourself about the military campaigns. There's a reason that military recruits are taught the strategies of people like Lee, Jackson, and Forrest. You should be asking yourself why the United States, with all of its overwhelming advantages, not only failed to put down this rebellion at the very first battle but continued to fail and get its armies routed by smaller southern forces for years.

>>741871840
True. But they had freedom and choice. Slaves did not. Plus, the beatings, rape, murder, etc. Much, much worse for slaves. Whitey could have moved north.

>>741872421
Underrated

>>741877707
Lee held loyalty to Virginia over his duties to the federal government. Something that should be noted and remembered. Values like that are held in high regard in red states.

>>741877871
This

>>741877046
>Why have pride about being a traitor to your country

Well that's not how people of the mid 19th century thought. You're trying to interpret history through your own modern world view, which creates the a false history. Take Lee for example. He was offered the position of commander of a the US army which was mobilizing to essentially invade his home. Home was where you lived. That was your country. Would you take up arms today and join an army that was going to attack where you, your family, and your friends all live? Doubt it. Now put yourself in some country boy's shoes. He lived on some farm in the middle of nowhere all his life. Never been outside of his own county. 500 miles away, which is essentially on the other side of the planet from their perspective, an army is mobilizing to head their way. And you call them a traitor. Ignorant.

>>741877813
What I meant was that there is one thing, be it state's rights or human rights, that is more important that apparently justifies treason.

And according to you, that should be honoured

>>741878111
>And you call them a traitor. Ignorant.
It's factual. All Confederate troops were guilty of treason. They should consider themselves lucky they weren't executed.

>>741878111
This x 1000. People always look at history through the lens of today's values.

>>741877925
(when a statements ends with an "/s" then it is sarcastic)

>>741877681
>bait this bad and obvious
>people still take it

>>741878251
Can we has a sarcasm font on 4chan? It would cut down on the poe.

>>741878232

That's fine, but they are just as guilty of so-called treason as the revolutionary generation yet you aren't getting butthurt about them.

>>741878111
well that "country boy" had electoral representation in that town "500 miles away".

So, what you are saying is, that you do not believe in democracy?

Sell it to the oligarchs.

>>741877925
Newfag

>>741878185
At that point in time it was relatively understood that states could leave the Union at any point. Look up the Hartford condition bud. Many states had tried to or debated secession up until the civil war. It wasn't until 1869 that the supreme Court actually affirmed that there was no right to secede. In the eyes of a southerner in 18560, what they were doing was no different from the revolution against Britain.

>>741878424
the South, unlike the Colonies had, real electoral representation in the capital.

So, at least from todays perspective, it may not have been legal, but at least legitimate, to declare independence from England

>>741870777
I don't know anyone who gets their historical information from statues and plaques.

>>741878424
Look at the reasons why the revolutionaries declared independence vs why the confederates did. Repeated abuses and usurpations by Britain vs expanding slavery. Apples and oranges.

>>741878429
He's saying that the country boys were just pawns in this. Choosing a side in a war is complicated and personal. You can't just attribute it all to the racism of individuals in the South.

>>741878429
Since when did a force of 90,000 men invading the other half of the country become democracy?

>>741869898
i mean it is stupid to wave a confederate flag around and yell, "its not about racism, its about what it stands for"

but i would keep statues for historical purposes. i mean, even the desert fox was a respected tactician

>>741878429

Now you're getting at the actual cause of the civil war. People began to see power stacking against them in the federal government. Congress had a delicate balance between slave and non-slave states, and territories were quickly moving toward statehood. Each time this happened there were huge nationwide debates over whether or not they would become slave or non-slave and throw off that balance. Civil war nearly broke out several times earlier over this very issue in Missouri and Kansas. But again you're looking at things through a modern lens. Life was local back then. City governments and state governments directly affected your life. Your representative in the federal government was a more of an abstract.

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>>741878645
Southerners obviously

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>>741877476
Patton Lee Oswald

did the mean wiberals hurt your fee-fees?

>>741870908
What you're spouting here is the revisionist history. Pick up a fucking book

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the north, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics."
- Alexander H. Stephens (Vice President of the Confederacy)

"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed."
- Article I Section 9 of the Confederate Constitution

>>741878732
General Patton.

>>741878652

Sure if you use that incorrect nonsense. But their reasons were essentially identical - choosing to start their own country. Protip: the revolution also produced a nation with slavery. Get fucked.

>>741878652
While I'm sure many wealthy landowners had interests in expanding slavery to the west, the original argument was that it was a state's right to decide on whether or not they would allow slavery. Technically anything not specifically discussed in the constitution is delegated to the states to handle locally. When the federal government began to question that the South saw it as an encroachment on their state rights among other things.

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>>741869898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qn_Qhz9MQM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>741878833
God job glossing over the facts retard.

>>741876542
>obese
>probably fucks niggers
>probably single with a kid because boyfriend bailed out.
>no trigger discipline
>Murica.
>This is bait, calm your fat rolls.

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>>741878817
General Lee

>>741879080
That would be a funny statue.

>>741879177
I'd keep that.

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white power heil trump blood and oil

>>741878669
did the South declare independence before or after a force of 90,000 was sent?

>>741878653
Well, the same way "libtards" should accept that they lost the electoral vote, the South back then should have accepted that the slave states lost the balance against their favour in the capital.

>>741878714
Quite true. Yet people had an actual representation in Washington. It is an essential part of a democracy to admit to being in the minority and to subordinate to the will of the majority. This is so fundamental, that it did not change and will never change. We can see the a similar thing in the EU, where the EU laws trump national laws, even though Bruxelles is far away and abstract. Looks like the UK is lucky that the US has its back

>>741877046

Best post I've read in a long time.

>>741869898
Pussy snowflake
Get over it ameritard your side lost faggot

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/12/charlottesville-va-braces-alt-right-rally-thousands-robert-e-lee-statue/561833001/

This just in. Someone plowed into the counter protesters

>>741878873
well, technically the federal government also was not allowed to make the Louisiana Purchase, but no one complained.
Countries change over time

>>741878833

Confederate leaders and writers of the CSA Constitution would disagree. The CSA was a nation where it was illegal for a state to disallow slavery

>>741878791

If the south lost the war why should they get to keep their stupid monuments, you lost you don't get trophies. Really they got lucky, look at what happened after the English Civil War

>>741879552
Did. Not the time. Someone seriously just ran over people at the rally over the statue.

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>>741879470
Sounds like trouble, Bo.
We better go, Luke.
Yeeeeehaaaaa@!!!

>>741879505
The Louisiana purchase didn't infringed on the rights of any american citizens.

You do know the statues are going into storage till they can re-locate them to meuseums accordingly? They arent being pulverized or anything of the sort. But pro-confederate types aren't taking the time to think about that. They see "removal"="destroyed"

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>>741871991
>you can reasonibly argue it to be a hate symbol

What's interesting is how contemporary this perspective is. For most of the last fifty years, the flag has been an empty pop-culture symbol of rebellion, used by everyone from Tom Petty to Axel Rose to Pantera. It was a major decorative element in the Dukes of Hazzard television show, and when it was also used in the 2005 movie, no one gave a shit.

they're taking it down and I never even got to see it. here's hoping SJW eat a bowl of cancer every morning

>>741879717
well the only reson why the fathers of the American institution intended the federal governemnt to be weak was to protect the citizens from the federal government.
It did not DIRECTLY harm citizens

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>>741879470
Orange Leader standing by.

>>741879831
Well black people did and some in the south specifically saw it as a symbol of white supremacy. I run into both kinds in rural Missouri. What you don't see is rebel flag in Kansas City. The blacks would fucking lunch the guy. Not literally, but they would shame him. It's funny what shit can get you shot vs what just gets you yelled at and maybe punched.

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I saw David Hasselhoff at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>741880148
They would not literally lunch him?
Are you sure?

"you lost. Get over it"

isnt that what the trumpophiles keep saying?

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This has to be the best picture from the event.

>>741880289
Lynch auto correct.

>>741879943
>Well black people did and some in the south specifically saw it as a symbol of white supremacy.

True, there were some protests around the presence of the flag on the ground of the South Carolina state capitol in the early 1990's, but mainstream culture, including black culture, didn't care.

These episodes of "political correctness" come in waves separated by 20-25 year intervals.

>>741879505
President Jefferson directly authorized the purchase and nobody else. The Presidents explicit authority to govern territory comes with the implied authority to acquire territory.

>>741880675
You're claiming that the symbol chosen by hate groups here and abroad wasn't found offensive?

>>741880675
They did care but whitey did it anyway.

One of the people hit by the car has now died!!!

We now have a homicide. The car went out of it's way to do this. I repeat, there has been a murder.

Police suspect sonichu may be involved.

>>741871991
Why not honor both sides. Let's build a Sherman drive from Altanta to Charlotte.
Sound offensive?
Now you get the idea.

>>741880977
God please let there be one less Trumptard.

>>741880977
This kind of behaviour is normal in Africa (see Kenya at the moment):
Congratulations, the US is now officially a Third World Country

>>741880785

It was de-politicized in the 1970's, largely thanks to Lynyrd Skynyrd and the Allman Brothers who used it a symbol of Rock and Roll rebellion.

So yes, for most of the past 50 years, it was not considered offensive in mainstream culture. It was considered a symbol of "rebellion" or "southerness". Presumably, the KKK never stopped waving it, but their membership was so small it didn't matter.

>>741881174
The group hit was almost completely counter-protesters so it's not likely

>>741878424
Except for the fact that the revolutionaries won. Victors always write the history. Had Britain won, they absolutely would have been a traitorous insurrection. But since they didn't, they were a brave rebellion against an unjust rule.
That's how this shit works.

>>741881174
Virginia has the dealth penalty, so maybe?

>>741881338
Robert Lee did nothing wrong

Is anyone really surprised these racist faggots feel powerful again when you elect clearly racist cunts like Trump with Bannon, Sessions?

>>741869898
>keep a few monuments for the South

Erasing history is a Jew trick. Erasing any memory of the Confederacy helps eliminate the notion of secession in the minds of citizens. Lincoln was a psychotic asshole to drag the South back into the 'Union'... Fuck the Feds. States were and should remain independent countries. The Federal government is an empire.

>>741881255
You dont get to decide.

>>741881533
It's not the bigots elected into office giving them power, it's the hypocrisy of the left going against their "Love and accept" mantra and actually giving these fucks any bit of attention. They've been ignored for 50 years for a reason, you give them attention and this is what they do.

>>741881708
You are a fucking idiot.

>>741871214
Or you know it could gave been about unfair taxation and the fact that if they got rid of slavery then the main source of profit would have been destroyed. Well it doesn't matter anyways. Who ever says that they are against slavery are a bunch of hypocrites anyways. Slavery is worse now then it was back then and they are doing nothing but nothing about old generals. Also reminder that it was only the 3% of the population that had slaves

>>741881174
It hit the protesters of the protest. The black chick in the picture who's basically crushed, thats probably the death. It was some white person driving. Look at the picture.

>>741881835
Good constructive comment, much moving such motivation

>>741881331
Thanks Pepe. You have finally killed someone.

>>741881877
>if they got rid of slavery then the main source of profit would have been destroyed
>Also reminder that it was only the 3% of the population that had slaves

>>741869898
Didn't they move the statue to a museum? Seems more appropriate to show something representative of past values in a historical context, rather than have it on display as if you all actually still want to secede.

>>741882054
shhh, OP does not care about facts (especially not if they do not fit in his narrow world view)

>>741882054
The problem is that the descendents of the rebels do celebrate their ancestors treason and would secede again given the chance. The North should have wiped out this thinking at the end of the war with mass executions of the insurrections political leaders, officers, and 1/3 of the enlisted men.

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>>741882074
Thats a charger?!?!

>>741882215
ah yes, this would have solved everything, mass murder

I fucking love it
I grew up in the south, and any one that says the confederate flag isn't racist anymore is lying.

>>741882074
>no one responded to my thread I need attention

>>741882074
Welp! Someone used a car to kill someone. Time to outlaw those instruments of deatn.

>>741882314
Legal execution is not murder. Remind me, what is the penalty for treason?

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>>741869898

>>741882534
I don't care about the leaders, but the enlisted men.
That's simply not practical in any sense of the word

>>741869898
Your argument is --> moot <-- because you're a retarded faggot.

>>741882683
Of course it's practical, who better would serve as an object lesson to the rest of the rebels about to consequences of treason? They could still serve their country by being put in front if a firing squad.

>>741878791
This'll come in handy

No surprise, Trump refusea to call out the alt-right for mowing over aome woman. Says hate of all kinds is bad. Seriously, Bannin wont let him condemn even the klan?? Oh yeah, votes.

Why aren't there any photoshops of the car being driven by Pepe yet? What is everyone waiting for?

>>741882037
The top 2 percent were responsible for the greatest amount of wealth. Taxes back then were not as low as you appear to think.

>>741882456
It's literally what's happening at the protest in question. The one over the statue. Are you saying that this doesn't belong in the thread?

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>>741882266
Yep.

>>741870492

As a fellow white, I feel its our obligation to chop up the birthrights our racist country has been giving us for 200+ years and babybird those little nuggets into the greedy mouths of them niggers and spics. J/K I love my job at McDonalds too much to just hand it off

Nice. Soon all of the americunts are going to kill each other and the world can finally get their shit together without these bunch of idiots. Can we build a water park in Florida once you are all dead?

>>741870714
Do you forget that our country was born on rebellion against British and many of us are descendants of Traitors?

Or are you just as blind to history as you claim?

>>741871214
Out of sight out of mind.

Were a nation of retards as is.

>>741882054
Not yet but they will. It's going into a federal reserve vault till the proper placement can be decided. It is by no means being destroyed. People are pissing themselves because it's being moved.

>>741870492
Thinks your political preference and vote means anything in a corrupt society that's purposefully keeping the people against each other.
>not knowing who the real enemy is, liberals and conserves the same.
Keep drinking your Coca Cola and watch your favorite tv news channel. Maybe one day you'll stop it, wake up from the life long indoctrination and realize what's really been going on during your systematic propaganda forced consumption of society. The only way to live free is to live more free than you think you are. So many hurdles, so little time