If i had a dollar for every time socialism worked, i would have

>>741521617
This

>>741521617

>Bernie Sanders
>Socialist
>Pick one

Not that bootlickers like you would know the difference

>>741521617
Facts

nice Facebook conservative tier meme you've got there

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>>741521617
Someone has never heard of social security, which was a sound institution for quite some time. Ever heard of minimum wage? Yeah, that's a socialist concept. You are a fucking moron...

>inb4 but muh capitalism

The pure form of any economic philosophy (capitalism, socialism, communism, etc.) is bad. Capitalism by itself isn't good. Socialism by itself isn't going to work. Same with communism. There needs to be a balance, and the fact you are putting socialism in a bad light is more than hypocritical. It's far worse. You're making people think it's bad... and that is far from the truth. Stop propagating misinformed opinions...

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>there are people who actually think real communism has been tried
>there are people who actually think communism wouldn't devolve into anarchy or turn back into capitalism
I don't know which is funnier

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>>741521617
>Conflating Socialism and Communism

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>>741521706
>>741522069
>>741522217
>actual intelligent posts on /b/
Have I walked onto the wrong board?

That's literally the point of Socialism

You're a fucking idiot OP. Bernie talks about the Nordic model, look it up. He's not talking about socialism (that's Venezuela). Read a fucking book you piece of shit.

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>>741522713
If you think that bastard would do anything resembling that weak and pathetic model, you are very naive.

>>741522713
M8 are you still mad that Bernie didn't win the election? Get out of your moms basement for once and look at the real world

>>741522713
i read a book and now I'm a Conservative

>>741523121
The Bible doesn't count. Read a real book.

>>741521706
you don't know the difference but you think you do. just like everyone else.

>>741523320
THIS

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>>741521617

>>741522994
Was never mad. You idiots got what you deserve. Trump is a complete piece of shit.

>>741522994
he never will, don't bother asking

>>741523320
Economics textbooks are considered books, yeah?

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>>741522713
I think you need this.

>>741522980
Higher standard of living, universal healthcare, free university, score higher than the us in life expectancy, happiness, etc. and have mandatory military for 1-2 years after high school so they're not all fat pieces of shit.

Shut up you weak piece of shit.

>>741523602
I pointed out a fact and I'm butt hurt? Sounds like you need it if you can't accept basic facts that contradict Fox News. Sit down.

>>741523629


Yeah good luck getting that to work in the US. We've got 300 million people compared to Swedens 10 million. You can't just scale everything up and assume it'll work flawlessly.

>>741522190
>communism

>>741522713
no you don't get it literally every single thing that has ever been described as socialist is LITERALLY soviet communism including all of the evil shit any communist has ever done

because Marx said so

but everything else he said is wrong

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>>741523745
Not that guy but find me a nation that matches the contents of The Communist Manifesto

>muh fox news talking points.
>maximum edges for maximum coolness

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>>741523592

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>>741521617
watch this you unloved child you

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yk98ct/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-stockholm-syndrome-pt--1

>>741521706
/thread

>>741522069
This.

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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/the-stockholm-syndrome-part-1/83107953/

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>>741521617

>>741523320
Beat me to it

>>741524414
Easy with that edge you might cut yourself silly boy.

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>>741524516
go read a book

>>741524241
Jon Stewart, that's a strong and respectable source you have there. Here, let me counter it with some equally credible Glenn Beck, 1 sec I'll find something...

>>741523869
Retarded logic.

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>>741523121

>>741523869
you do know America already Implement socialist behaviors
such as having a
national army
police force
disaster response force
public education system
public roads
social security
public owned land

>>741524573
Claiming that Capitalists have stockholm syndrome is ignorant, arrogant and hateful. Of course, if you're a liberal then that's basically just Tuesday for you. Agree with me or you're dumb, right?

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>>741524592
you compare that unsuckled baby-man conspiracist with john?

>>741524784
just poking my head in here to point out the irony
you just said it's wrong to generalize a whole group of people then you follow that up by generalizing a whole group of people

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>>741524592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAzwC-ZvCJg

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>>741524782
>implying that anything beyond anarchy is socialism

>>741524782
Yeah? Social programs and actual Socialism aren't even comparable.

>>741524592
kek this is a funny response but the two are not comparable
but I will say Jon Stewart is less credible than somebody else like John Oliver

>>741524784
Nah, not all capitalists have stockholm syndrome. Some just don't mind fucking over other people so they can buy another boat

>>741524975
that's what socialism is the implementation of social programs by the government

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>>741524784
not capitalist, just dumbed down, indebted proud americans

>>741524948
no one's implying that you're just assuming that because you know socialism the only way

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>>741525050
you and your "occupy" friends

>>741521706
>>741522190
Wow, real comrades on /b/! Too bad the average brainwashed 12-year-old on this Himalayan fart fetish site think that a communist is someone who voted for Clinton.

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Too bad hillary and DWS cucked bernie. Poor old man.

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>>741524948
The state is inevitable

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>>741525176
>denying that labeling police & militaries as "socialism" is anything more than a retarded attempt to equate all non-anarchy as socialism

>>741521706
>>741522190

Translation:
>BUT THEY DIDNT TRY MUH BRAND OF COMMUNISM / SOCIALISM
>MY KIND WOULDVE WORKED! YOULL ALL SEE!
>proceeds to buy another Che t-shirt from hot topic, feeding capitalist fatcats they claim to hate while posting on their iphones and samsung S8s, using facebook and privatized communication brokers to soap-box their drivel

>>741525238
I'm not an American, so I was never part of OWS. But know that you are hated atop your ivory tower, and you will get your just deserts. Unless you're one of those bottomfeeding cucks who thinks himself better than the poor, in which case your time will come sooner than you think

>>741525107
No, he's right. Social programs are when the rich grudgingly pay out a small share of their expropriated wealth to keep the poor from murdering them. Socialism is when that power derived from private ownership of capital no longer exists. Social programs are designed to PREVENT socialism.

>>741525524
>in which case your time will come sooner than you think
Still waiting.
Watch less movies, /b/rah. Heroes die. Very young.

>>741523348
Private ownership of the means of production is a different thing than democratically enacted social welfare programs in order to alleviate the symptoms of capitalism and prevent leftism from gaining popularity. When leftism has gained popularity, we get things like Nazi Germany.

>inb4 some retard actually replies with the "we are socialists" quote that wasn't even said by Hitler

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>>741521617
>thinking sanders is a communist

>>741525629
I mean Nazi Germany in RETALIATION to leftism, not a product of it. Fascism is far right baby

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>>741525506
>MUH BRAND OF COMMUNISM
You mean actual communism?

>>741525506
This

>>741521617
if the us is 20 trillion in debt and bernie sanders promised free healthcare and college who would pay it considering the amount of spending isnt keeping up with the gdp?

asking for a friiend

>>741521706
>>741522432
>>741523320
>>741523419
>>741523592
>>741523393
>>741524414
>>741524573
>>741525141
samefag

>>741525506
sanders promote scandinavia style politics. and those are the best countries on the planet to live in. they are on top of all lists in happiness, equality, well-being, etc.

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Hitler was a Socialist

>>741525701
And you bought that book in a book store or on amazon, furthering the lifeblood of capitalism.

That's what I find most funny. Communists and socialists are cucked from the very first taste of their first-year-at-college ideologies.

>>741522432
>thinking these are inteligent posts

no your (((you're))) definitely on /b/

>>741521617
>the kind of socialism that already exists in the rest of the first world doesn't work

>>741525813
>they are on top of all lists in happiness, equality, well-being, etc.
They also support less than 100 million people.
Shocker: Socialists and communists do not even consider the difficulties in logistics scaling.

>>741525779
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>>741525844
He thinks they are inteligent because they're his.

>>741525823
you realize we're not against stores, right?

>>741525589
you just describe socialism when you describe social program are you really that disconnected

and if you are that disconnected let this be a learning point when people say socialism what they mean is the proper implementation of social programs

>>741525844
>correct grammar is of the jew

>>741525823
>education is of the jew

Why should we do anything but laugh at people who are proud of being stupid?

>>741525823
>And you bought that book in a book store or on amazon
If you say so anon

>>741521617
"The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" - Margaret Thatcher

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>>741525905
>comparing small european countries with the US

>>741525910
>They also support less than 100 million people.
there's always an excuse

>>741525823
You are literally retarded, aren't you?

>>741525966
Marx made no mention of private enterprise.

Maybe..read your own book?

>>741525524
you people are so cringeworthy, pathetic and impossible to take seriously. nobody cares who you hate even a tiny bit.

come get me faggot. i'm waiting. otherwise just shut up and stop making yourself look even sillier.

>>741526068
>failing to understand logistics
I'll wager the closest thing you've come to understand about supply logistics is Stardew Valley.

>>741525966
No, but you'd be paying a lot more for what you pay right now and it will be way harder to get.

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>>741526087

>>741526087
Bit sweden doesn't have any nigg...oh nvm

>>741521617
Still better than bannon and drumpf

why does commies always say we need to be more like countries with a higher density of white ppl?

>>741526247
And their rape levels are twice that of South Sudan.

>>741526005
or your public library did

>>741526150
I'm not coming for you. But your asshole nature of stepping on the poor will be your undoing.

For people who make a habit out of taking from others, it's only matter of time before they take from the wrong person

>>741526263
>calls it drumpf
I bet your GF gets wet when you call people childish names.
>implying you have a GF
>implications

>>741526082
who said marx is our ideal? you're the one who says we're communists, which we're not. you just need a strawman to attack so you can feel justified in being a retard.

>>741526154
>implying amazon would disappear
you have no idea what sanders is trying to do. it's not anti-capitalist, it's just capitalism, but with universal healthcare and shit.

>>741526087
but detroit was run on demecratic social policy for decades

>>741526082
No one here has claimed to be a Marxist you dunce.
Your assertions that Sander's policies or Scandinavian economies are Marxist is evidence of your idiocy.

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>>741526247
i bet you blame black people for not getting pussy too huh?

>>741526263
you need to get out and see the world more. france is fairly socialist

>>741525629
incoherent gibberish, clarify your point

>>741525977
No, that's entirely wrong. Socialism is fundamentally anti-capitalist (or better, post-capitalist). I don't know what you mean by "disconnected", but the idea that socialism is about social programs is typically disseminated by people who don't want anti-capitalism being discussed. The puppets of capitalists want to pay you off so you'll settle down and they can keep their power.

We already tried the social programs route in America - it was called the New Deal. Now we're right back to the Guilded Age. Social democracy is a fool's trap - be smarter than that.

>>741526357
>who said marx is our ideal? you're the one who says we're communists, which we're not. you just need a strawman to attack so you can feel justified in being a retard.

Oh I don't know, you want Lenin's endless revolution style of communism? The one where an incalculable amount of people starved?

Pol Pot's? The one where 5 million starved?

Mao's? The one where an estimated 200 million starved?

>>741526277
And a fraction of the US.

>>741526377
still nicer than your trailer park

>>741526483
okay you are disconnected and by disconnected I mean you have a disconnect with your personal information and views and the information and views of other people who are not in your bubble

>>741526450
And look at the state France is in you fucking autist.

>>741526377
No it wasn't.

>>741526410
Yo dawg, I got stank on my hang low right now

>>741526577
Jokes on you faggot. I have a 800k house in san diego

>>741526483
socialism requires capitalism to exist like a parasite needs a host. the reverse is not true.

there is so much dead weight that needs to be cut off, probably including you. you don't know how lucky you are capitalism is facilitating your useless existence.

>>741526673
there's nothing wrong with france, everyone is still trying to get over that global recession

you eat a pretzel von schintzel

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>>741526490
are you going to fight strawmen all day, or actually talk like an adult?

>>741526684
Yes it was

what do you call it when you support captialism and business that supports citizens but have concerns when businesses support other businesses and corporations cease needing to serve the needs of citizens

The anti globalism vibe resonates with me because the only times I really see stuff going to shit is when businesses start playing international hide the pickle and local legislation can't touch it.

Also only supporting the stock market as much as needed to keep it from going underground were it outlawed and keep the tax base.

>in b4 ineffective import controls and tarifs regulating anything

>>741526490
You just went full fucking retard.

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>>741521617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3B5qt6gsxY

>>741526881
NatSoc

>>741526756
you expect me to belive there's a trump supporter in california in a 800k house? if you're a spoiled kid living in their parent's house. fucking autist

>>741526328
capitalism has done more to help the poor than anything else in human history. living standards for everyone including the poor skyrocketed because of capitalism.

you are so deeply deluded i don't know if there's hope for you.

>>741526846
No it wasn't.
Go be retarded somewhere else.

>>741526410
I just fucked a married black woman on her lunch break this afternoon. Some Nigs "queen" ate my jizz.

>>741522432
>>741522217

Yeah why would anybody be STUPID enough to think that Socialism, an economic system that Marx himself said was the transitional phase to Communism in the Communist Manifesto, was at all related to ebil Commienism and BAD?!

Fuck off dumbasses, you'll just keep losing over and over and calling yourselves intelligent.

>>741526655
I still don't know what you mean by "disconnected". What bubble are you talking about? I'm happy to discuss what I know about socialist writers and thinkers and the long history of socialism that started with a rejection of the 18th century bourgeois revolutions, which failed to bring about the egalitarianism they promised.

Are you talking about European socialism? European socialism used to be evolutionary socialism, which has by now proven itself to be a fuck-the-global-poor dead end of social democracy that will last only until the next wave of capitalist crisis.

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>>741526338
You should be loving the commies. Your chump drumpf does, especially their pee.

>>741526944
I guess as long as we don't speak German about it.

>>741527107
Still calling Sanders a Marxist.
Still being retarded.

>>741526971
Half of orange County loves him. Maybe if you left Starbucks and talked to people in places other than your junior college gender studies class you would open your fucking eyes

>>741526971
no one says your dad bought that car if your driving a civic.

no one says your delts are small if you dont lift.

no one calls you ugly if your not dating a hot chick.

stay broke.. maybe voting democrat will get you another quarter/hour next election cycle you fucking nothing.

>>741526998
What

>>741526971
>california
>800k house
You know that's a trailer park right?

>>741521617
Sorry m8, I'd reply, but I'm off to China to have them handle my means of production. The Gov just bought the MFG new machinery and subsidized all the materials costs to get our business, and USA just can't compete.

>>741527122
Final proof that:

reactionary Trump voter + economic privilege = liberal Clinton voter

Corollary:

liberal Clinton voter - economic privilege = reactionary Trump voter

>>741526777
>like a parasite needs a host
wow. you sound rational and level headed. no way that you could be an extremist. it's possible to combine various political theories, you know. there are more choices than nazism and communism.

>>741527009
Yes it was. Go be a shill somewhere else moshe

>>741527201
Orange County actually voted Democrat for the first time since WWII last year.
So, once again, you're wrong.

>>741527189
What? Why would I call Sanders a Marxist? That's absurd. Based on his platform he's clearly a social democrat. Maybe he's playing an evolutionary socialist game, but in that case he's also proven how easily they get defused and absorbed by pro-capitalist liberals.

>>741527201
Orange County is also not San Diego.

>>741527348
I said half nigger. The right is shockingly large there

>>741521617
Socialism is about giving everyone the same chance to succeed through hardworking. That means the same high standard of education is available to everyone instead of the situation where an intelligent poor kid doesn't do as well as a below average intelligent rich kid because he gets a shitty school.

It means that children - who can't be blamed for their circumstances have equal access to healthcare.

Capitalism is designed so that those who have continue to have and take from those that don't.

Unfortunately people have been brainwashed.

The problem in Venezuela isn't socialism it's hanging you economy on one economy. AAlso undoubtedly some CIA interference.

>>741527257
x 100,000 times
= Current US Economic red scare

>>741527427
I work in OC from time to time when I have property to list.

>>741527456
high level bait

>>741527308
No it wasn't.

>>741524357
uh oh someone doesn't know the difference between having socialist policies in place and having actual socialism. Lol. fucking idiot. it only works because it has capitalism as it's base backing it.

>>741527456
I'm just gonna leave this here:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/03/ken-livingstone-venezuela-crisis-hugo-chavez-oligarchs

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>>741527358
This. Thanks for attempting to educate these mongoloids. Don't expect them to understand it though.

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>>741527547
Yes it was

>>741527456
veneuela can do as it likes but the world operates on capitalism

>>741521706
low quality b8. back to redd it pls

>>741527554
>it's

keep dumbing confidently, americans

>>741527445
Not anymore.
There's no need to tell me about Orange County, I lived there for 18 years.
Voting for Reagan is far different than voting for Trump, they're nothing alike.

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>>741521617

Even more ironically under capitalism OP is $45k in debt.

>>741527558
you never get tired of strawmen, do you? why are you avoiding the real topic?
see >>741527358 for reference.

>>741527554
Retard, capitalism only works because it has socialism backing it up when it fails.

See how fucking easy that is, and how fucking stupid? No true scotsman blah blah blah

>>741527709
rofl. socialism is so weak it's followers have to resort to arguing semantics.

>>741527743
Then why the fuck do I see lifted pick ups with maga 2020 stickers all over rthe fucking place. Let me guess, you read an article on politico that said some shit about ...oh even folks in oc are turning on drumpft

>>741527554
I never denied that shit face.
What you're describing is more like Sanders policies, which are not Marxist, which you keep asserting.
Enough with the fucking strawman already.

>>741527358
>>741527656
>>741527770
Jesus Christ do you literally work for the Clintons? Next you're going to tell me it takes a village.

You people aren't socialists. You're liberals who use a shallow humanitarianism to rationalize an economically privileged lifestyle that depends on the exploitation of the global poor (oh, but let's not think about that). Tell me you're willing to throw away capitalist bribes so we can build a better, sustainable world that can progress into the future and then I'll be impressed.

>>741527855
Lol except what you're saying is blatantly false and there are actually examples of capitalism working for extended periods of time and bringing out more growth. every example of socialism is colossal failure. fuck off back to le r3ddit pls, faggot

>>741527536
This

>>741527456
asians are docked on there sat scores and blacks are handicapped at state funded colleges. not equal

healthcare is a good. not a right. stop over regulating healthcare and it will become more affordable.

capitalism is designed to produce consumer goods at market value.. the ppl decide what a good is worth. opposite of labor theory.. which is retarded

you have been brainwashed into thinking you dont need to know basic economics.

the problem in venezuela is socialism.

>>741527558
This fucker keeps up with his strawman arguments.
No one is advocating for a Chavez style economy you fucking dork.

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>>741528012
>literally work for the Clintons
Would you be shocked if xe was?

>>741527671
No it wasn't.

>>741527276
Commie pee + drumpf = pathetic self delusional chumps who voted for him

Source: I'm a 45 year old long time conservative. Not a right wing loon who lacks critical thinking skills

>>741528139
>xe
lol

>>741527743
I voted for Reagan. He was a fucking vegetable, and his fucking hired jew deregulated the financial sector and caused all manner of mayhem. And as a military historian, his defending the US from fucking... Grenada... and trying to take credit for the collapse of the Soviet Union was nauseating.

However, he was 1000x the president Trump is. I don't know how 1/3 of the country apparently missed the last oh 40 years, where Trump was the epitome of a shitty human being with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, but, there it is, and we got him, and it's all the DNC and Hillary's fault.

>>741528137
>s-s-s-strawman
>>741527276

Please, I don't need any more evidence. Do you realize that the more I keep poking your paper-thin ideology, the more you start sounding like /pol/.

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>>741528184
Pst....hey anonkun....
It was

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>>741528012
ITT:
>be OP
>be massive faggot
>be on a crusade against strawmen
>keep on fighting
>keep avoiding the real arguments
>gotta stay brave and fight those strawmen
>can't let real topics distract me
>muh soviet
>muh venezuela

>>741528012
you seem like the one who's privileged and afraid to live in the real world

have you ever noticed how the liberal ones Among Us are the only ones willing to pay taxes you know we're willing to give up our money to help support the group as a whole we think realistically

and you're still on that caveman everybody for them self shit

seriously stop being a snowflake and get with the times already everybody has to give up something and just because you don't want to give a little doesn't mean you should go around talking about how everybody is geting something but me snowflake

>>741528209
I voted for Jill Stein, dummy. You must be old if you're dumb enough to fall for the Democratic party's red scare bullshit.

>>741527427
i'm in san diego now.

>>741528216
>hired jew
Paul volcker?
He did what he had to do. And it worked well enough

>>741528016
If you have no grasp of history, then you need to have taken more than Econ 101 to have a fucking idea of what you're talking about you idiot.

When you find out how much chaos and destruction lay in the wake of your idiotic ideology, and how much of the successes you assume to be the product of it aren't, then you turn out... just like us.

>>741528281
>s-s-s-strawman
>s-s-s-strawman
>s-s-s-save me strawman

I'm not the one desperately avoiding criticism, though.

>>741528012
>sustainable world that can progress into the future
>wants capitalism to destroy the environment for short-term profits
pick one

>>741527924
I lived in OC from the late 70's to mid 90's and still have family I visit there.
Trust me, it's no where near as conservative as it used to be.
It's about 40% now, down from around 90% in the late 80's.

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>>741528357
>voted for Jill Stein

>>741528369
Shit nigga I'm in mission valley

>>741528390
No, the brain. Milton Friedman

>>741528463
Um, I'm a communist, so the first one.

>>741528478
True. But by california standards it might as well be Mississippi

>>741521617
This thread is gay and you are all homosexuals.

>>741528584
Oh that kike. Point taken

>>741528216
I agree.

>>741528369
you're also an autistic that lives in your parents $800k home

>>741528276
Pst... no.

>>741528460
all you're doing is criticizing lenin and shit, which is completely unrelated.

that's why it's a strawman, you're attacking a position that i don't subscribe to. and you're doing the same with sanders. you're not criticizing me or sanders, you're just raging about soviet era bullshit that is irrelevant for either my or sanders' positions.

>>741528484
Where's Strawman-man when you need him??

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>>741527358

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>>741528484
i know some fags that will put a bullet in your head

>>741528369
Which is not OC.

>>741528460
You're comparing Sanders to Marx, Lenin and Chavez.
That's a fucking strawman.

>>741528528
>mission valley
torrey pines

>>741528764
What the hell are you talking about? I'm happy to have a civilized conversation with you, but you don't seem to understand what plane of reality you're currently on, much less what I'm trying to tell you.

>>741528423
Lol. You have no argument so you just resort to "OMG UR SO LE STUPID, GO 2 SKOOL KIDDO"


Every attempt at socialism has resulted in millions dying. fuck off, shill

>>741528814
cool. i don't know what county it's in.
i'm not from around here.

>>741528887
What?? Why would I do that? Sanders is a social democrat, and if you think social programs = happy "socialist" capitalism (please ignore the suffering of far away people), so are you. The difference is that you apparently only give a fuck about getting your cut of the blood money.

>>741528747
i'm not at home rn.
i'm just here for work.

>>741528747
2 bedroom 1 bath apartment in San Diego if he actually lives in San Diego.

>>741528812
Sweet shop

>>741528616
You need to be at least 18 to browse here, little guy. get off here and go back to crying about how your burgeoise parents grounded the proletariat from Xbox.

>>741528938
Interesting. So you're saying all ideologies in which millions have died over are bad?

What do you subscribe to? Just asking

>>741528812
I know a few rag heads that will throw your faggot ass of a 15 story mosque

>>741528764
This basically sums up this whole thread.

>>741528938
But drumpf loves the commies

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>>741529100
that's not a shop anon

>>741528892
Richfag huh?

>>741528977
San Diego is like 2 hours south of OC

>>741529227
I'm rick Harrison and this is my bait ahop

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>>741529154
no you dont, couse if you did you would be dead

>>741529128
>can't even spell bourgeoisie

Not as effective as you were hoping.

>>741529152
No I'm saying all ideologies in which millions have died for and then never work are bad. idiots like you want to keep trying it Because "it'll work this time" capitalism has many recorded successes and there are few if any countries that habe failed only because of capitalism. every country that has tried socialism has failed and killed millions in the process. There hasn't been a single attempt that has been close to success. but hey with a smart guy like you leading the revolution I'm sure it won't fail this time, lol.

>>741529278
Nigger I can make it from la Jolla to LAX in 1 hour 30 min

>>741529387
>just read Atlas Shrugged
>has it all figured out

>>741529330
They will play some nasheed and stone a queer with out batting an eye

>>741529387
What are you on about. I'm not the guy you were arguing with, I just wanted to know what ideology you subscribed to

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the great leader will prefect us MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

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>>741529154

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>>741529476
that an easy assessment from your parents home

>>741529231
i'm staying at ucsd.
i think that counts as torrey pines..

i don't live in the mansions just off campus or anythnig..
those are so expensive it's crazzy.

>>741529390
La Jolla is not San Diego and sure some times you can make it to LAX that fast if traffic allows you to speed like a mother fucker like in 3AM. But if you want to go anywhere near the speed limit during day time hours, good luck.

>>741529278
o ya, i thought i remembered LA being orange county.
i didn't know how far south it extended though.

>>741529601
How's antifa hq these days?

>>741529671
Point taken

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>>741529751
going strong, fuck them pills

>>741529525
but when is that supposed to happen
I've been waiting for it to happen for like 6 months
and so far all we have is the announcement for Fallout 5 DPRK Edition

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>>741529601
Just imagine a well placed pipe bomb turning that whole mass of faggotry into human hamburger

>>741529839
Too bad Eric clanton turned snitch and rated on a bunch of you huh? Bike lock cuck is looking ar 25 to life

>>741529839
BASH

>>741529931
I do not condone the assassination of presidents but yes that would stop him

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>>741529601
watch out nazis!

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These modern day communists are so fucking pathetic. They love everything that old communists hated. these people are the same ones to support black lives matter and cry about muh police. You hate cops yet want a militarized govt. Makes no sense

>>741530036
Is that a Downey in the centre?

>>741530075
>They love everything that old communists hated.

Please, tell me more.

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>>741530036
Yeah comrade we're gonna punch some Nazis today

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>>741530036
I'm down to fuck a good two-thirds of the people in there

>>741529447
man you shills are more about quantity of shilling over quality. eh?

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>>741529839
All I see is a truck full of useless idiots that want to enslave me and steal my stuff. This is why we need private ownership of moartars and RPGs.

Fucking anarcho-slavers.

>>741530223
I'd fuck them all just to prove a point.
>I'LL FUCK YOU TILL YOU LOVE ME FAGGOT

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>>741530160
BTFO Nazis!

>>741530300
What if I want a single payer health care plan, and I want to own a full auto 240b?

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>>741530014
at least his not a professional, like most cis hetero alphas here

>>741530430
BLACKED

>>741530430
Uwutm8

>>741530235
>nervous laughter
>no you're just shilling ha ha

What am I shilling, bright boy? Kinda hard to pay people who are against the continued existence of the concept of money to shill. Anyway, you're late for your objectivist fan club - er - meeting.

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>>741527358
A Democratic Republic is just Socialism-lite.

>>741530132
>new commies are pro fag supporters
Old ones killed disgusting fags
>new commies like drugs
Oldies thinks druggies should be shot on site
>new commies cry about the police having too much power
Old commies think it's great to have a strong militarized police

Fuck off

>>741530168
Hitler's also white so are white people also evil

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ban assualt airplaens now!

>>741530499
>against the continued existence of the concept of money
Hmmm wait..they are the anti jew???where do I sign up to support them

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>>741530325
you just tuck your stuff away under the bed

>>741530411
that means you have something to protect you if you get shot

>>741530325
How did you get off your private island in which you use only things that you made exclusively from raw materials without knowledge created by other people?

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>>741530394
BTFO YOU CIS WHITE PRIVILEGED FUCKS>>741530430
This guy is literally that LOL

>>741530606
>Hmmm wait..they are the anti jew???

You probably find this confusing because your worldview is a nonsensical fantasy.

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>>741530547
do you english?

>>741530605
if they were commonly available for civilian use yeah you don't want a civilian to have a weapon of War

>>741530300
TBF, everyone owning a gun uses only the monsy posessed by those who want to own guns. Whereas everyone havng helathcare relies on using monies posessed by those who either ALREADY have healthcare or who don't want healthcare to fund those who don't have healthcare.

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>>741530168
You're a fag

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>>741530679
B-but it wasn't real communism

>>741530700
sorry about that I was listening to Trump speak for 8 hours

>>741521617
socialism did work, that's why you have zero dollars which is more than you deserve

>>741530772
Yeah, but that's like asking Time Cube guy to define physics. Why wouldn't you ask someone who isn't a deluded maniac instead?

>>741530744
hey you know what we need the ban car insurance

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>>741530788
NAZIS GET OUT

>>741530616
The same way I managed to not have to build everything I own from scratch. I came to an ethical agreement about the value of the goods and services I wanted with those who had them or providded them, and I made a TRADE.

Only communists and fascists (not that there's much difference functionally) enslave people, steal their shit or are stupid enough to think that humans can't interact ethically.

>>741530910
> obvious conservative/libertarian cuck

>>741530998
I bet you shop at whole foods

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>>741530547
wow. worst attempted rebuttal of the month. that was weak. really fucking weak.

here, dumbfuck, let me explain it to the 2 year old that you are: Socialism is the system that puts all the power into the hands of the government (by stripping away freedom from the people), only allows one-party rule, and historically always results in a centralized, hierarchical system with one person at the top (think: Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jung Un, Hugo Chavez, etc.).

Now, realize that Hitler's government was the same type (disagreeing with communism only in aiming for national solidarity not global solidarity). Now realize that Hitler was only able to do what he did because of the socialist system in place first. Now realize that Hitler's murder spree is just average compared to other Socialist/communist murder sprees.

Now, realize you are a dupe, a useful idiot, and you are fighting for your own demise and the destruction of everything you hold dear.

Now go fuck yourself.


inb4:
>b...b....b...but Scandinavia!

not socialist, has a higher rating on the economic freedom index than the USA

>>741531014
Found the Clinton donor

fucking americans, always talking shit about money when they have none (200 Bajillion in debt, good luck paying that off before your "country" goes bankrupt)...who cares where you get your money or how, fuck you

>>741530938
Car insurance isn't actally required for travel by private vehicle. It's only when you drive for commercial purposes that it's required. Neither is an IM, registration or a license technically.

Gotta read the fine print.

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>>741530772

(From The Library of Economics and Liberty)
In The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics, Sheldon Richman succinctly states: “As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer.” He contends that socialism seeks to abolish capitalism outright, while fascism gives the appearance of a market-based economy, even though it relies heavily on the central planning of all economic activities. According to authors Roland Sarti and Rosario Romeo, “[U]nder Fascism the state had more latitude for control of the economy than any other nation at the time except for the Soviet Union.”

Interestingly, Mussolini found much of John Maynard Keynes’s economic theories consistent with fascism, writing: “Fascism entirely agrees with Mr. Maynard Keynes, despite the latter’s prominent position as a Liberal. In fact, Mr. Keynes’ excellent little book, The End of Laissez-Faire (l926) might, so far as it goes, serve as a useful introduction to fascist economics. There is scarcely anything to object to in it and there is much to applaud.”

…As the effects of the Great Depression lingered, Italy’s government promoted mergers and acquisitions, bailed out failing businesses and “seized the stock holdings of banks, which held large equity interests.” The Italian state took over bankrupt corporations, cartelized business, increased government spending, expanded the money supply, and boosted deficits. The Italian government promoted heavy industry by “nationalizing it instead of letting the companies go bankrupt.”

>>741525275
>Second meme arrow

hes making fun of you too, ivan

>>741528355
It's always funny seeing someone argument always starting with "Your Privilege"

that's the equivalent of arguing with someone at Walmart.

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>>741531076
>oh you hate conservatives you must be a clintin lover
Sorry that I don't like you kike loving Israel fags. Muh strongest ally

>>741531123
Hey prajeet, take time to learn about fiat currency and the petrol dollar b4 you poopost

>>741531037
Don't even have one in my state, and if they did I sure as fuck wouldn't shop there. Unethical bastards.

>>741531076
"We're the left - that means we need to make you scared of communism!" - literally the few Democrats still left

>>741531071
I have a serious critical thinking question for you
have you ever considered the possibility that your definition of socialism and how you think it functions it's not the same as someone else's definition of socialism
because if it is the case and that your definition of socialism is different from the other definition that everyone else is using that would mean you're not talking about the same thing
could it be that so many people support socialism because it's not the socialism that you think but it's a different socialism

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>>741531123
"americans" are not a monolith. It's the socialist and socialist-leaning "Americans" who put us into debt, fuckface. It's the fiscally responsible libertarians who are fighting them and trying to fix it.

Meanwhile, remind me which utopian paradise you are from?

>>741525506
>reading comprehension

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>>741531171
>implying that fascism is somehow bad
>nice retarded image
Do you believe hitler wanted to take over the world, and was a drug addict too?

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>>741530964
GOOD NIGHT ALT-RIGHT

>>741528072
>asians are docked on there sat scores and blacks are handicapped at state funded colleges. not equal

That's not socialism - it's social engineering. You know full well that I mean schools with equal excellence regardless of location.

>healthcare is a good. not a right. stop over regulating healthcare and it will become more affordable.

Lol. The only people who think healthcare is a good are failed human beings. Why should it be that a child born into a poor family should die of the same disease that the rich kid in the same country is cured of?

>capitalism is designed to produce consumer goods at market value.. the ppl decide what a good is worth. opposite of labor theory.. which is retarded

No, capitalism is designed so that those with capital can accumulate more capital and those that have no capital can't. It's designed to rob the workforce of any chance of improvement so that they're forced to work for the capital holder. Pure theoretical capitalism results in monopolies which then dictate whatever price they want.

>you have been brainwashed into thinking you dont need to know basic economics.

You have been brainwashed into thinking you understand basic economics.

>the problem in venezuela is socialism.

No, the problem is an economy pinned to the price of oil. Of course if you're intent on pillaging the countries resources and exploiting the poor the problem is a lack of access to markets.

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>>741531204

self-identifying Jews voted Trump. Only the self-hating, non-practicing, guaranteed to be non-Jews next generation "Jews" vote liberal.

>>741531372
Not Galt's Gulch, apparently.

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>>741531319
>thinks im a leftist
LOL

>>741521617
Socialism has never been done. Authoritarian kleptocracies are what you're thinking of. Words are confusing for conservatards, I know. However, American has been a socialist democratic republic since the beginning. The constitution mentions regulations numerous times for a reason. You idiots act like any regulation or tax is somehow socialist. You're all retarded.

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>>741531372
>hurr durr I work hard and I support da economy with my hard work and everyone else mooches off muh tax dollars

keep pressing those number plates retard

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>>741531483
You are the definition of muh based jews.

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>>741531318
I appreciate your serious, critical thinking question. However, ducking definitions is just a sad, evasion tactic.

We can dispense with definitions, if you like. Let's just consider all centralized, collectivist systems of government under which citizens are considered inclusive to that government, directly or indirectly.

Moreover, we can add that one role of the government is to ensure egalitarian outcomes to all citizens.


Do you think governments of this type have historically/empirically produced stable, successful societies where citizens enjoy a wide range of freedoms and a high standard of living?

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>>741531448

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>>741531443
history proves it, fuckface.

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>>741531856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfuH4TlXu3E

>>741531857
>posting that image on /b/
you're gonna be swarmed by the people who're terrified their door is gonna be broken down by women accusing them of rape, liberals forcing them to take hormone pills and socialists coming to redistribute their money

>>741531589
fascists are leftists, dumbfuck

the opposite of both a liberal AND a fascist (2 kinds of leftist) is a libertarian.

>>741531640
Lol. True story.

Like all the towns that vote to be incorporated so they can fund libraries and stuff. (Or whatever it is they do that is totally fucking socialist).