Which is better and why? NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti or NVIDIA

OP here

Someone please bump

Ti.

Its the same card but slightly overclocked.

>>741448267
What do you mean "overclocked"?

>>741447639
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti is the best for 4k
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 is the best for vr

it depends on your needs

>>741448378
OP here

Then I'll get NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 because I want VR. Thanks Anon.

>>741448481
no problem

>>741448378
OP here

Also I don't know what you mean by 4k

>>741448343
ok gtfo this site xD

>>741448542
4K resolution = Ultra HD resolution

>>741448267
lol no you idiot, the Ti variant has a completley different chip

>>741447639
You can think of 4K resolution as being 4 times the Full HD resolution of 1920x1080. Basically its crisp as fuck.

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>>741448378

>>741448807
Well I don't have a 4k tv so that's why I'm not going to get Ti

>>741448935
OP here

Why is it BS?

>>741448343
Overclock = purposely run something over its limits

>>741449084
OP here

So is that a bad thing?

>>741448994
A 1080 is still overpowered for 4k.

Seriously just get the regular 1080, no reason to get the Ti variant since I doubt you gonna need that extra power, the 1080 on its own is more than enough for your needs trust me. Plus its cheaper ;)

>>741448378
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti is the best for 4k
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 is the best for vr
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. the 1080Ti beats the 1080 across the board except in performance per dollar

>>741449204
>>741449084
That guy's a fucking idiot.

By definition, if it's running at the speed it's sold at, it's not running over its specifications and isn't overclocked.

>>741449284
So then what does the Ti do that's differt than without the Ti?

Ti is short for Titties
>Basically Ti is better for porn

>>741447639
If you have to ask, you have no business buying computer parts. You're just a moron blindly wandering through a 3-dimensional maze.

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Ti is Titanium - Its like gold teeth for whitebois

>>741447639
Ti is just the newer version of the 1080 line usually means higher stock clock rate so 1080ti its greater then 1080 as far as preformances

>>741449531
OP here

I'm not buying computer parts. I'm trying to decide which gaming computer to buy from the BestBuy site.

>>741448267
It fucking isn't, and you're talking shit without even googling it.

Like the Titan X, it's a Titan Xp with its damaged functional units disabled.

Unlike the Titan X, it has one damaged memory controller, so less RAM and less memory bandwidth.

It's not the same chip as the 1080: that's a 1070 without disabled functional units.

The pascal family is: [1030*] [1050*,1050Ti] [1060 3GB*, 1060 6GB], [1070*, 1080], [1080Ti*, Titan X*, Titan Xp]. Chips marked with a * have one or more functional units disabled.

>>741449633
Yeah, but in this case it doesn't, so don't guess.

>>741448267
the 1080Ti has a LOWER clock than the regular 1080

Op stole his mum credit card and is building a pc.

>>741449057
Because it is. The 1080 Ti is just generally the more powerful and expensive GPU.
It does both things better than the 1080.

Also they're both completely overkill and a waste of money for 99% of PC users.

>>741448994
>>741449208
I just realised what I said. I meant to say that a 1080 is overpowered UNLESS you're doing 4k. Literally the opposite of what I wrote.

>>741449482
It does the exact same thing, just 29% faster.

>>741448830
stop talking please there is not a single correct info in your posts

>>741449493

Goddammit I bought the wrong one then!

>>741449667
>Unlike the Titan X, it has one damaged memory controller, so less RAM and less memory bandwidth.
So you're saying the 1080Ti has less memory and memory bandwidth than the titan x? nvidia says otherwise ...

>>741449667
OP here

So would a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti would be enough for todays computer games?

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Can everyone stop arguing about the difference between the 1080 and 1080 Ti? Here are the official specs. The 1080 Ti uses a different GPU than the 1080, but at a lower clock speed. The 1080 Ti is actually much more comparable to a Titan than the 1080. It performs significantly better than the 1080 in every field, and I would personally buy one today if I didn't already have a standard 1080. They’re both still overpowered if you aren’t gaming in 4k, though.

>>741450032
1070 would be perfect for today's games @ 1080p, provided it was paired with a CPU that would not bottleneck it

>be me
>somewhat of a cheapskate
>buy an ok pc, 3gb vram gpu and mediocre cpu
>cpu is best for its mother board
>couple of years later get some money
>being autistic, decide to but a 1080 to buff my pc
>tfw internet runs worse than high-end games
>tfw I have to spend about £500 for new cpu and motherboard

>>741450032
At standard full HD resolution a 1050 Ti or a 1060 will allow you to run almost every modern game at good settings. So yeah.

>>741450113
What do you mean by bottleneck?

>>741450190
Cool. Because I'm using my 65" Samsung 1080p HD T.V as a monitor for my computer.

I've always found it silly to use a small computer monitor when you could use a big T.V as one.

I don't know if anyone answered your question about overclocking so I'll give it to you straight.
Overclocking a processor (CPU or GPU) allows you to increase a processors computational power beyond its advertised value by tonkibg with the core clock speed and voltage. For example, an i7-7700k has a core clock of 4.2ghz. By increasing the voltage, a user is able to increase its clock speed in order to make it more powerful.
Not all processors can be overclocked the same way due to the nature of what's called the "silicon lottery". What that means is that micro-defects in processor's manufacturing effects it's ability to be overclocked. Not all processors are the same.
Another good example is the i7-4790k. It has a base clock of 4.0ghz and I beleive somebody managed to boost its clock speed to over 7.5ghz, essentially doubling its speed.
In exchange for the faster speeds, you will experience greater power consumption (increasing the cost of operation) and carry the risk of decreasing the CPUs effective lifespan.

>>741450701
Oh and I forgot that the extra speed will also create extra heat, making effective cooling absolutely necessary.
And lastly my post has nothing to do with your original post, it's just a response to one of your other questions. CPUs and GPUs are both processors and both can be OCed

I have 2 gtx 1080s extreme editions overcloked. It eats every game I've thrown at it maxed out in 4k. They say the TI has a 30-40% performance advantage. The ones I bought came vr ready including a front port for the dual HDMI s on the case. All things considered I'd recommend getting a single 1080 (one of the higher end,ones) and just push the clock speed. 1 can run 4k but not every one maxed out, but 2 can. Gl bro.

>>741449208
No its not peasant

>>741449860
It's totally correct you dumb cunt, 4K is roughly 4xFull HD. Go back to your cave.

>>741450701
OP here

Oh wow. So I guess I should get a gaming computer with a liquid cooling thing if I'm going to get the computer that has the 1080 Ti.

But is there a gaming computer you would recommend? Because I might get one that is VR ready.

>>741451071
What do you mean it eats your games?

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feels good

OP seriously if you don't have a 4K monitor just drop the idea of getting a Ti, the 1080 will meet all your needs even for VR, and liquid cooling should only be considered if you plan on overclocking, do you even know how to do that? If not then just stick to the regular 1080.

>>741451110
I corrected myself. Read the thread, peasant.

>>741451132
3840x2160 != 4* 1920x1080 but

8,294,400 and 2,073,600 respectively

So yes this anon is correct, approx 4x.

>>741451315
Then I guess Ill go with the simple 1080, maybe. Because I might get a 4k TV one day and use it as monitor. And no. I don't know how to overclocking.

>>741451249
I can play any game maxed out with no performance issues and no temperature issues in true 4k constant 60 fps

>>741451490
If you don't know how to overclock and are not inclined to get into it then just go with a fan system build, the gtx cards themselves have an adequate heatpipe and fan system to keep them cool. If you're looking long term with regards to getting a 4K monitor and have the money then go for the 1080Ti for sure, you'll have better upgradability in the future. Depends on what you looking for. Personally I would be happy with a 1080 but I don't 4K.

>>741447639
Any Vega

>>741451741
The AMD shill has arrived. Thread ruined, everybody.

Vega

>>741451848
Enjoy paying through the nose for your consumer level floating point lol

>>741451949
At least you save money in the winter since instead of an hvac unit you can just turn your pc on.

>>741447639
GT 630, because i got it for almost free.

>>741451949
Fuck off. I filter you on /g/ for a reason you fucking obnoxious brand war pricks.

Anyone got any predictions for when this mining thing will end?

>>741452050
Still has better performance per watt ratio

>>741451949
You're cranky because its too hot in your room. Try turning off your oven, I mean your computer.

>>741452050
Sorry I wasn't aware you were running a data center and assumed I was doing the same and that I'd have to be jewish about power-costs measured in the hundreds of dollar a month.

By all means, tell me how your godbox has a better flops/wattage ratio than the epyc architecture which scales memory across multiple cards as a single PCI bus device.

If you're feeling a bit toasty and you have some change to spare, maybe you should invest in a P47.

OP here

Basically I want to buy a good gaming computer from BestBuy site $2,000 or less. I one day get an 4k TV for a monitor but until then I'm using my 1080p 65" Samsung TV. Can anyone give me any good suggestions on what good already made gaming computer from BestBuy site would be?

>>741452294
No, but I hope there will be a cripto-crysis

>>741452366
Nope, better performance/watt ratio. I'm sorry that you're frightened that you might have to actually buy decent cooling for your machine instead of relying on the intel stock fan for your processor and the two included fans with your 50 dollar newegg case.

We're all very impressed that you thought RGB lighting was more important than cooling -- which you got away with because your card isn't really doing grownups work anyway in single point precision.

We really appreciate having the scale of videogame physics and gameplay held back to single point and beta cuck number of logical cores and shitty memory bandwidth to your GPU because you thought being milked for consumer performance was absolutely acceptable. At this point, you may as well be console gamers.

>>741452362
>your autism to fedora ratio is quite high pls go and cuck. Nvidia > amd. The only reason to build amd is if you are poor fag building a budget pc. Which is fine, we all started there. But the fanboy shit is laughable dude. The only downside to nvidia is cost. Much like a luxury car. As you explain to me how your civic with a fart can and cool air intake is so much cooler. Just stop, so,weak.

>>741452555
Cards are only shifting in bundles for the first year to deter crypto. The only reason they shift faster than nvidia is because for general compute they are literally better cards than NVidia's offering.

Do i have need to upgrade processor (4770k) if i upgrade from 780gtx to 1080ti?

>>741447639
Obviously the Ti. It has more letters.

>>741452643
Are you bitter that you let reddit's buildapc design your build right before AMD stepped up and disrupted the market so you paid through the nose for performance that a year from now won't even be considered relevant anymore?

>>741447639
Ti.
Cos it has the extra bit at the end

>>741447639
Ti. Given that you're already paying that much for three letters and four numbers, that much more for two extra letters is a bargain even if one of them is lowercase.

I mean its not like anyone's selling unlocked cards at a flat base rate these days, is it? Why would anyone do that when they can milk you more money for them to do it for you?

Your big stubby fat fingers would just fuck it up anyway so you should be thanking NVidia.

>>741452414
Whe, you get your first job and try nvidia you will never go back. Until then stick with the post purchase rationalizations autismo.

>>741452475
DNot buy best buy. Buy from energy or tiger direct. Look at the super combos on news and build you rig around the gpu and a current gen i5. 2000 is plenty to build a very decent rig.

>>741452621
Yawn 5k in it but that's cute. Water cooled,everything. Expendable income is a foreign concept to you.

>>741452762
Be a shame if I just 'bought whatever I like' stay nd gaymd fanboy.

>>741449930
No, Nvidia doesn't, unless 11 is a bigger number than 12.

>>741447639
Right, overclocking by definition is running higher than spec core or memory clock. Bottle-necking is when a component is restricting you from achieving the best possible performance (eg you have a fucking tasty graphics card but an Intel celery, you're still gonna get shitty fps).

>>741452690

Unless you're doing something extremely CPU intensive, no.

Even the old 2600k performs exceptionally well with most modern games.

>>741449636
I physically winced.

>>741448551
>xD
Go with them

>>741447639
Ti is better for ether mining

>>741452963
But I know very little about computers. That's why I need it already made. That's why I need advice on what the already made computer needs. That's why I asked about the 1080 Ti.

>>741452963
By all means, if you enjoy the smell of burning money feel free. I'm not in a position to stop you from slamming your own testicles in a car door because you're just some low-end gamer who only needs 32 point float performance (which let's be honest holds developers back knowing your computer can't run the code they want to write, which is why UE4 still only supports 32bit float out of the box unless you modify it) all for that juicy 5-8% performance gap and an inferior wattage/flop ratio. I bet you couldn't even use 32GB of RAM up.

This is literally the same mindset of console gamers who hold back developers from really blowing their load on PCs.

You are the console gamers of PC users. As a software developer, I cannot tell you how greatful I am that your choice in cards doesn't support a lot of the big open world shit I would just love to do because NVidia doesn't think you need it and arbitrarily disable it so their sales of grownup cards isn't cannibalized.

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>>741448542
I could forgive not knowing about overclocking and bottlenecking, but fuck, OP come on.

>>741453173
OP here

I don't understand. Why would you wince over that?

>>741449636
Ladies and gentlemen, a Intel/Nvidia's target market.

>>741453344
you're wasting big money on pre-made, thats why

>>741453344
I can't tell if this is some next-level trolling or if you just like the idea of paying twice as much for half the performance because touching computer guts might give you nerd cooties.

>>741452963
At this point, why don't you just buy a mac?

>>741453417

Not if you live in the UK. Separate parts cost the same if not more in total.

If you're an enthusiast, don't go there.

>>741453448
OP here

I just wouldn't know what I'm doing if I tempted to build a computer myself.

>>741449204
but some cards are sold OC'd
but yeah it's not recommended by the manufacturer bc it will typically wear out faster

>>741451132
>>741451462
4K not 4x. 4K refers to the horizontal pixel length whereas all prior referred to the vertical pixel length. It's a marketing gimmick.

>>741453634
Its 2017 and Youtube exists. You literally have no excuse to not know how to do something in an era where information is free and well presented.

>>741453344

Buy parts and build a computer from scratch! Seriously, they're shaped in such a way that it's not that much different from putting together a jigsaw puzzle! You could assemble one in like an hour or so.

>>741447639
Get an AMD faggot

>>741453634
This is the internet, go watch someone build a pc

>>741453417
Dude, I know jack shit about computers. I'm relying on the input of others like you. I would royally screw it up if I attempted to build a computer myself.

OP: Watch this channel for a few weeks and then you'll have your answer.

https://www.youtube.com/user/LinusTechTips/videos

It'll give you a good sense of how the market is right now and canuck dilf linus is a pretty entertaining guy who's genuinely passionate about what he does.

>>741453634
That's fine. Just make sure you don't get scammed. A lot of these sites will sell you on one or two of the components being good, but leave out any information about the others. You'll soon find out after buying it that everything not mentioned is the cheapest Chinese trash they can find.

>>741453302
You don't even know what floating-point is.

The reason gaming cards are optimised around 16-bit floats is because IT'S JUST A FUCKING GAME. No-one cares about sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-subpixel accuracy, because you're never going to see it.

You don't see 32-bit GPUs outside of scientific computing, for the same reason you don't see 128-bit operating systems: 16-bit accuracy is enough for games, and will always be enough for games.

>>741449208
TI still just about keeps up with 60 fps at 4k. Its the first single card that has the capability to do that, but i still prefer more frames over higher res.

1440 @120 if i can get it works for me.

TI all the way.

>>741453826
Dude, if you have the brain to build a lego set and not fuck it up -- like a kid's lego set, a computer is fucking easy.

You are literally just following simple instructions. This shit is not hard.

>>741450454
because a lot of people game at a desk setting,
and having a big ass TV at a desk is not really doable. Also they make monitors that are designed for gaming, like having better refresh rate for higher FPS.
TV's are designed for watching movies and TV shows, and movies only run at 24 fps

>>741453826
Are you also one of those guys who claims he'd burn down the kitchen if he tried cooking? Seriously, it's nothing more than following simple instructions. Just like any plug, computer parts are specifically designed to fit in one way, but not the other.

>>741453676
2x2=4, so the pixel count at 4k is 4x what it is at 1080.

>>741453898
Can nobody read the thread holy shit.

>>741453736
But I don't know what parts are compatible with each other.

>>741454014
no

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To anyone that would know does the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 handle VR well or should I kick it up to the 1060

>>741453974
'member to pop over to /wsr/ once you're done and start an "I assembled my computer and now I just get a black screen and BTW how do I pirate Windows" thread.

We can't get enough of them. Even several a day doesn't suffice.

>>741453876
Uh, no it won't. FP64 allows for physics computation in locations away from world-centre, meaning you can create MASSIVE environments with HUGE things happening.

Right now it all has to be faked very painstakingly to get around these compute performance limits that literally only exist because FP64 isn't in everyone's home.

Its why so many games say to the player "nope, this is the physical limit of your world-space, turn the fuck around and go back to the middle".

Its why high fidelity physical simulation for VR games looks like such total fucking ass right now and objects don't behave in believable ways with differential mass throughout them.

As for sub-pixel accuracy, uh no: Try caustic simulation for dynamic lighting and PBR. To this day, metal still looks like plastic when its rendered on consumer grade GPUs because light isn't behaving properly.

Do you literally know nothing?

>>741454043
No it doesn't.

1060 6GB. The 3GB has a disabled core and is 90% the performance of a 6GB.

>>741454043
Get a Vega, anon. Its designed for VR from the ground up. NVidia's solution is kinda hacky on an architectural level. It works fine for current year if the settings are lowered to like 2013 levels of fidelity, but its not going to scale.

>>741454015
Don't listen to the people telling you to build your own. If the idea doesn't interest you then it's not worth the hassle. I built my own, but that was because I wanted to learn, the experience was its own reward. You're fine buying a prebuilt as long as you do some research beforehand. If you're in the UK, I’ve use a company called Chillblast before. The computers they offer are pretty good for being off the shelf, and they package well. I don’t think they deliver overseas, though.

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>>741453876
I care about subpixel accuracy.

>>741454296
What's Vega?

>>741453977
Nigger, please read. 4K refers to the horizontal pixel length. Not the total pixel count. Prior to "4K" all resolutions were described commonly by their vertical pixel length (1080, 720). 4K was a switch as a marketing gimmick

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>>741454411
I'm all about the length baby.

>>741454043
It's probably worth getting the 1060.

>>741454296
This is the dumbest thing I have read all year. VR is literally just dual high res monitors. It's not something you develop at "an architectural level", unless AMD hasn't had dual monitor support before, which wouldn't surprise me.
I genuinely think you're being paid because nobody is this stupid.

>>741453922
OP here

I have my 65" TV on a table in front the foot of my bed and I'm using a wireless mouse and keyboard.

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>>741454204
>>741454296
as of right now I have a NVIDIA GeForce GT 545 so honestly anything would be nicer than this right now but all this is what im checking out http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-gl502vm-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i7-12gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-1tb-hard-drive-black/5712362.p?skuId=5712362

>>741454304
OP here

I live in the U.S

>>741454411
Yeah, the next step will be called 32/4k

>>741454139
So much absolute and utter bollocks.

A 16-bit float can represent a value 1,000,000,000,000,000 times greater than its smallest value, which is good enough for anyone.

You're telling me I should care about stuff going on when I can't see it. Assuming for sake of argument you're right (you're not), why should I?

You're telling me I should care about an arbitrary point in space that I'm not at because it makes life easier for an engine programmer that makes 90k. Why should I?

You're telling me that games are limited by a number format and not by the size of the assets. Why should I believe you when that would mean Minecraft and WoW couldn't exist?

>>741454404
AMD's shot across the bow of NVidia. Basically, Nvidia have been using the same tired architecture for a long time and have been milking users for incremental changes in performance that don't age well.

Vega comes out of the box able to overclock, handling professional level double point 64 bit floating point and designed from the ground up to handle VR properly.

In simple terms? Its a much better bang for your buck and it'll age much much better.

Most of the naysayers are upset because the software hasn't caught up to the hardware yet.

>>741454531
Its not dual monitors. Conventionally it means having to render an entire scene twice so you get both views. Vega pre-caches and instances lighting simulation against texture maps so moving the camera to the second eye only means rendering the image once and the texture map is only loaded into render memory once, saving about 75% compute. It also packs Floating point 64 out of the box and a much higher memory bandwidth associated with server compute cards to handle massive texture maps that will be used in VR because you're that much closer to objects in worldspace.

Are consumers literally this retarded?

>>741454411
And yet it has 4x the pixel count of 1080, because the horizontal dimension of 1080 is 2k, and 2x2=4.

>>741454687
Because light will look more realistic, any moron will be able to make super massive open worlds 100 kilometers + in size with dynamic simulation and ridged bodies for characters could behave more realistically with less clipping or cardboard collision behavior and rubber friction physics.

Basically, it will make everything today look like 2008 looks today.

>>741454411
Are you this fucking retarded in real life? Or does it just come out when you start typing? You can literally see the quality of picture jump when you have a 1080p tv right next to a 4k. You can also see the pixel count for a TV and see that it's literally 4 times the amount of pixels that a 1080 tv has.

>>741454714
Holy shit this is the first real paid shill I've seen. Where can I sign up? I wanna make money on the internet too. Do you get like talking points or something? Is that why you sound like an advertisement voiceover? Are you linus tech tips?

>>741454971
No, canuck dilf does not use such schemy sleezy websites as the chans and is not at all a giant memelord, quite clearly.

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>>741454714
Why would anyone develop for it, when they're only releasing ultra-high-end chips that aren't going to be in:

- laptops
- gaming laptops
- consoles
- low-end desktops
- low-end gaming desktops
- midrange gaming desktops
- high-end gaming desktops with Nvidia chipsets

They've basically created a $3k console you have to assemble yourself. This has "Betamax" written all over it. In five years you're going to be talking about how it was obviously better and why couldn't anybody see it and if everyone bought it then everyone would have bought it.

>>741453876
lol, first of all NVIDIA CUDA cores use 4 byte floats or 32 bit , secondly OS "bits" represent the size of adresses that the OS works with. For example 32 bit OS can support upto ~4GB RAM, 64 bit can suport upto ~4GB^32 RAM which is huge, so no need for 128 bit OS

>>741455041
Because it will trickle down and in about four years, it will be in everything as the next major architectural shift because the nm processes are finally getting to a point of yield reliability where these kinds of technologies can affordably begin to be put into consumer grade hardware.

This isn't about whats affordable now but its about establishing the software and architectural standards and expectations of whats going to be affordable in the next five years.

This is expensive now but this is going to get cheaper and cheaper to do because the major shift in processor manufacturing now isn't process scale but process yield which is why AMD can afford to put out a four die processor at consumer grade costs rather than enterprise costs.

>>741454871
That will be really useful. I'm sure the GPU will have enough power to simulate all the stuff in this 100km open world, seeing as it's only as much work as simulating everything in 400 Morrowinds simultaneously. Or were you thinking of a world so open there isn't anything in it?

>b-but we'll only simulate the things near the player
You mean exactly like games do right now?

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>>741447639
>Nvidia vs Nvidia
Either way you are fucked

>>741451254
>3GB 1080ti

>>741455325
So basically you're content with lighting in videogames still looking like CGI movies did like twenty years ago with the same simulation errors. Got it.

I mean by all means, tell me how its architecturally easy to make a game where you jump from the scale of a person to an aircraft to a space-ship really easily without needing a massive team and the biggest space-sim kickstarter in history to fake something that with FP64 is going to become easy rather than some hacky cludge of six software teams screaming at eachother.

>>741455282
>in four years
So why should this inform my purchasing now?

Is it going to last four years without becoming hilariously obsolete, in stark contrast to every other GPU that's ever been made in the entire history of PC gaming?

>>741448551
>xD

>>741453251
Agreeing nod

>>741455515
Pretty much, because its the architectural foot in the door rather than the last step before the door was shut.

>>741455127
Likewise, a 16-bit float can represent the biggest and smallest numbers you need to write a game, so like there's no need for an OS to have 128-bit pointers, there's no need for a game to have 32-bit floats.

This is known, in English, as an "analogy".

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OP here

These are the desktop brands on BestBut site I have to choose from. Which ones the best for games and VR? That's all I want to know, please.

>>741454714
>Most of the naysayers are upset because the software hasn't caught up to the hardware yet
i'm upset because AMD hasn't talked about the specs & hasn't released any info about it

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>>741455282
>Actually being this fucking retarded

>>741453259
You can learn. They have tutorials, plus you are sure to know one of us enthusiests in real life. I build pcs for,co-workers and grow,d's all,the time. Most builders will help you out for nothing.

>>741453302
My computer was over 5 grand what are you blabbering about.

>>741453490
Pls go mad gag

>>741455644
The core requirement of a functioning analogy is having an analogue that has parity with the point you're trying to establish.

This isn't them not understanding the English language so much as you not comprehending what it is you're trying to describe so your analogue actually reveals your misinterpretation of what is actually happening.

>>741455493
Well, you don't do it by simulating the whole thing, because then you'll end up with retardedness like having to do the physics of every car on the planet just in case they change the colour of one pixel by one bit.

You're the one asking people to care how easy it is to write no man's sky, and to care about making life easier for people that are paid six-figure salaries to write one engine once. You're the one with a case to make.

>>741455788
5K wasted from the sounds of things. Did you piss it all away on RGB lighting and a sick window for your dank rig?

>>741448267
are you retarded or just plain ignorant?

>>741455865
Because those are lots of 32 bit scale simulations talking to eachother with faked crossover.

One giant 64 bit simulation is like a person-scale player blowing a hole in the side of a ship and you in your millenium falcon or whatever the fuck being able to see them through the gap -- because the mesh destruction was simulated in fp64 and the scale differences and ranges with large high speed craft that move at hundreds of miles an hour and people who kind of don't, who handle people style stuff all being in the same sandbox simultaneously with a single physics stack that plays friendly with itself, not a giant fucking mountain of apologetic "sorry" code that can't handle exceptions because it literally shits itself and dies at exception thresholds between scale signifiers.

>>741455881
No 2 overclocked 1080s i7 overcloked to 5 ghz. High end psu/ram/ssds all water cooled. It is performance built. I give duck all about dumb lights.

>>741455788
So you're someone who would buy a mac but you're too insecure to admit you love huffing mad cock so you wildly overcompensate with a battlestation that you don't even utilize because you're a consumer, not a content creator but you just want to futureproof your investment because you're frightened obsolescence might remind you that your craving for cock hasn't gone anywhere. Got it.

>>741456101
You're typing on a device with autocomplete.

I think that says a ton about your situation and whats going on with your life right now.

I don't even need to say anything.

>>741447639
NVidia is for people who think graphics cards are fine as they are and have been for the last six or so years and that only incremental changes are really needed -- and that no consumer has need for what the technology is capable of because they're only ever going to be rendering a science fiction/military themed room with a gun in the lower right corner.

>>741455688
Is nobody actually going to answer OP's question? I can't because I'm not from the US.

>>741456462
If OP wanted an answer, they wouldn't have asked 4chan, let alone /b/

>>741448267
complete shit

>>741456541
prove it

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>>741447639
OP here

Why can't you guys just make this simple? All I want to know is which brand of prebuilt gaming computer from the BestBuy site is better? I'm going for $2,000 or less and is VR ready.

Some helpful ideas is all I ask. Please

>>741456690
Because you're OP. Its what we do.

Its not our fault you're a faggot.

>>741456440
You're the one asserting that there's a pressing need to be able to represent millions of times as many things than can be seen, interacted with or processed.

You're the one with a case to make.

>b-but imagine Starcraft except it's a kilometer across and halfway through the game you just suddenly lose because someone else blows the entire map up

>>741456782
Ah so I take it the prospect of everything being destructable in a reasonably realistic way and realistic light simulation and better AI upsets you?