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Discuss Who's gonna win and why

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Who's gonna win and why
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Mayweather because McGregor can't box
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Mcgregor is going to knock him out and I'm going to make an insane amount of money.
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McGregors getting knocked out inside 1 round.
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Mayweather because Connor is a loud mouth faggot . The brain damage he's going to receive from this fight will end him.
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Unless mcgregor learned how to box like a champ recently, he going to be playing a losing game with this rules and gloves.
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>>741441693
Mayweather will probably win . But I'm also betting on McGregor .Because of the odds I wanna make a bunch of money. I know McGregor does stand a chance of knocking him out .
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I don't think mcgregor will even be able to land a hit on mayweather, would be hilarious if he got frustrated and threw a spin kick at him or some shit

But yeah, mayweather in a boxing match, however if you put em in the octagon with full mma rules mayweather would get murdered
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>>741441647
The Irishman

Because he can slackline, and that's sick
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Mayweather because he is boxing and Connor will gas out and get knocked the fuck out. After that Khabib Nurmagomedov will ground and pound the hell out of Mcgregor in Russia
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>>741441647
Mayweather is past his prime, and cannot contend with an mma fighter.

Sorry but its true
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>>741442200
But its not an mma match.
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>>741441647
I hope the white guy because NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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>>741441647
This already happened
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>>741442265
So why are odds against mayweather?
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>>741442503
26th of august you fuckin mong
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>>741442577
Betting odds? They're not.
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>>741441647
Well it won't be society. This kind of pointless bullshit is so stupid. Get the fuck off /b/, go to your shitty Facebook group or plebbit and tall about these random cunts. Or better yet, just kill yourself and make the world a better place you pathetic waste of human skin.
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>>741442789
Lol everyone's happy but you. Yet they're the problem
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There is a reason why they chose boxing rules. Because they want Mayweather to win, and McGregor KNOWS this and probably rolling with it because hes gonna get a shiload of money.
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White midget > black midget

Winner gets tossed across the room by a stag party, double or nothing.
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>>741442852
Would it surprise you to learnt that people are idiots?
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>>741443057
That's why they're happy and successful and you're not, right? They're just idiots, right?
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>>741441647
mayweather on points, I think it'll come down to who has the better technique
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>>741443136
Lmao success is an arbitrary human created idea. I don't deserve success of any kind because I am human garbage.
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As much as I'd like to see McGregor bounce the malteser with eyeballs off the canvas. I'd say it'll be a pre determined UD victory for Mayweather
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>>741441647
The fight is "boxing", not MMA, so Mayweather is gonna win

>>741441693
This is not UFC, its boxing
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>>741441647
Mayweather-black
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Conors going to fuck him up mark my words
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If you guys think the boxing community will allow Mayweather to lose to an MMA fighter, you're wrong. Not only is Mayweathers career on the line, but the boxing community as well
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>>741441693
>mayweathrr hits harder
>mayweather got HIT by the best strikers in his weightclass and took it
>really experienced boxers have a hard time even hitting maywether
>conor will totally knock him out
If you really think this you are a retard. Maybe connor would have a chance against a generic boxing-pro, but floyd is one of the greatest of all time and not because of his physic (like tyson etc.), but for his skill. Smaller gloves would only be trouble for connor since gloyd is used to punches harder than connors, while floyds punches will hit connor like a truck. Nobody in MMA can punch like a professional boxer you juicehead. While connors hands are top-notch in MMA they are pretty mediocore in boxing and his hands are all he has in this fight.
Sure he can make awkward movements and shit, but floyd is a fucking speeddemon in the ring and remember HE FUCKING PUNCHES HARDER THAN CONOR. That's a fact.
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>>741441647
IRS

because Floyd can pay his debt
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The purse is expected to be $390m, loser pocketing $150m at least. So ... who's losing?
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This fight is a spectacle, a freak show. It's not meant to be a "good" fight, but an interesting fight to watch. Conor isn't a heavy hitter, and neither is Floyd. With 10-ounce pillow gloves we may not see a knockout from either one. What we'll probably see is a world champion boxer dance around someone who has some experience in amateur boxing.

Conor is a great MMA fighter, but Floyd isn't -just- a great boxer, he's a great defensive boxer. Floyd stands in front of champion fighters and they can't land hits on him. He gives them his left shoulder and it's very difficult for fighters to counter that. He's maybe taken 5 or 6 actual solid hits in his career. 49 bouts and only 5 or 6 punches have landed in his face. Manny Pacquiao came very close to beating Floyd, but Floyd's defensive technique stopped Manny from doing any significant damage throughout the fight. "All it takes is one punch" is still true, but that's one punch that Conor will have to struggle to land. It will be an uphill battle for Conor

Conor has 2 advantages that could possibly win him the fight: stamina and movement. MMA fighters are said to have more stamina than boxers, so in theory Conor could simply wear down Floyd and get in some good shots near the end of the fight. Floyd tends to change tactics in the final rounds. He starts throwing more punches when he sees that his opponent is losing power, and he starts taking more risks. If Conor is able to out last Floyd, he could throw off his rhythm and do some damage.

People who have seen Conor training have said that his movements are unorthodox. He doesn't move like a boxer. That could also disrupt Floyd's game plan, but it's unclear how effective that would be.
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>>741441647
Who ever lands first punch
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>>741444231
>Conor has 2 advantages that could possibly win him the fight: stamina and movement.
not to mention the fact that he's a LOT bigger.

As for the money...
Even if Conor's side comes out to $100,000,000, which is doubtful because a lot of that is no doubt coming from back-end points (meaning he's likely not to see money from that for a long time if ever, google: Hollywood, back-end points, not getting paid), he has to pay out:

15% to publicist
10-15% to manager
10% to agent
$300-$500,000 for camp, pre-fight medical, travel
and
$121,505.25 (lump sum; income tax)
PLUS
39.6% of the income over $418,400 (income tax)

And... the $100,000,000 shows up as around

>$14,000,000

in your bank account.

Still good money, tho.
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>>741444228
Only one who put up some risk is floyd. I dont think 150m would be worth the shit he'd be getting.especially considering he only has to take a few photos for advertising shit to make multiple million $
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>>741444023
>mayweather hits harder
hahahha you fucking retard
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Why is everyone saying connor doesnt hit hard, he has an 845 pounds of force hit, and everyone saying floyd will be able to dodge i think he'll be suprised by connors speed and armlength
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>>741441647
Anyone who thinks this shitty ass set up pre determined 'fight' will be handed over to a white guy is fucking retarded.
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>>741444720
>has no idea about fighting
>calls me retard
Ask 10 random pro-fighters from whatever combatsports who they think has a harder punch.
Ppl like you need to stfu. Just because you want something to be true doesnt make it true. Just use your brain. boxers train the same amount of time as mma-fighters but they literally only practice like 4 striking techniques, while mma guys have to practice kick, defense against kicks and at least takedown and submissiondefenses. How would someone who is much less specialised in striking have a harder punch? Wish-thinking doesnt win you bets. 6:1 on floyd is like free money.
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>>741442462
edgy...
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>>741444882
Nobody says he doesnt. He hit's extremely hard for an ufc fighter, but we are talking boxing here. It's a different sport, where ppl generally strike a lot harder. Connor is at most mediocore compared to pro-boxers about his weight.
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>>741441647
both of them have already won and every faggot who is gonna pay to watch this shit show has already lost.
This joke is just a big pile of money, nothing else.
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>>741441861
McGregor got into the MMA because of his boxing so take those bet's off Mayweather and stack 'em on McGregor.
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>>741441952
he knocks fags out with a single punch, all he needs is one opportunity.
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>>741445389
Youre are absolutely right i know nothing about sports however i did watch a video that used science to compare the forces of mayweather and mcgreggors punch force, shut the fuck up retard we get it you like to be passionate about something you dont do, in realityyou are a fat fuck that watches fight tutorials on youtube
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>>741441647
I'm going to assassinate McGregor and then they wont be able to fight
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>>741445886
edgefag
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>>741443314
McGregor is known for his boxing skill and knocked a spic out with one punch who was above his weight class and he wasn't even trying yet.
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>>741445851
>watched a video used science
No you didnt. There was never a show where both athletes compared their striking power. Also how are you going to measure it? Everyone can throw a hard punch at a stationary object with unlimited time to throw it. You just have no idea about fighting weakass.
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>>741441647
Mayweather will start winning .. McGregor will get pissed kick him in the face breaking his neck killing him instantly ... One of Mayweather's posy will shoot McGregor dead and we all win!
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>>741444023
you forgot HE BROKE HIS HANDS now making him hit more like a prius than a bus.
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>>741445996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orr8JffO7a0
You have stated several times i have no idea about fighitng and i agree with you but neither do you so shut the fuck up and listen to someone who does
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>>741446101
What you mean? I barely know any boxer who never broke his hand. I remember maywether braking his hand back in 06, he probably broke it before and for sure broke at again after. He won several fights with broken hands.
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>>741441647
Who the fuck are these two and why should I care?
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>>741441647
Marryweather or FIB ?
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It's going to look something like this.
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Mcgregor has 2 rounds to try and land a lucky shot. He likely wont. Tko in the 6th or 7th because Connor gets tired. 2 rounds will be fun then a boring dance.
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Conor will destroy floyd, the man is 40 years old, it's past his time and Conor is a protégé
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>>741444231
>Conor has 2 advantages that could possibly win him the fight: stamina and movement.
Connor has neither.
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>>741442462
>Irish
>White
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this is a world champ in this pic
the world champ has no business going inside the ring against Goobs
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>>741446254
if you know anything about medical care the bone loses density making his punch weaker due to his bones not being strong enough to handle said hard hitting punch even if he wanted to hit that hard the flexibility of his bones diminished after they were broken also making him have to hit weaker so yes medically he can't do it especially against someone who's taken more abuse in a ring than him like McGregor who's used to being fucked the hell up and still kicking ass.
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>>741446542
haha Shut your fooking mouth.
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>>741444023
>>mayweathrr hits harder
people actually believe this LOL

he'll run like a chicken the entire match just as he did with pacquiao, which is why the entire match was a let down
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>>741441647
Floyd unconscious in 4.
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>>741446236
>espn
>ppl who know
Lol. Also mcgregor wont be able to throw slow punches like in mma against floyd. They just estimated things by looking at videos and you call it science. Also they dont even come up with absolute numbers for floyds punch.... i wonder why? Why dont you watch what michael bisping, chael sonnen or any of connors ex-sparring partners have to say instead of watching the shitty video of a small guy with glasses trying to get some clicks of the fight and calling it science? Or do all these ppl also have no idea about fighting?
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>>741446655
he runs like a chicken in every match, he is a pussy.
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>>741441647
I've heard rumours that he's trying to setup a fight with Paulie Malignaggi after this fight.
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>>741446709
may I refer you to this regarding Floyd's broken hands >>741446583
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>>741446709
you truly are clueless
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>>741445389
You're quite possibly delusional if you think bristle boy floyd hits harder than Conor. Even floyd in his prime probably didn't hit as hard as Conor.
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>>741446583
So, according to xour logics vonnor cant hit hard anymore either, since he broke his hand against aldo?
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>>741441647
>>741446655
This

Mayweather is one of the most "by the books" fighters I've ever watched. He is a technical fighter. He does not go for knock outs, he dances around the ring throwing pillow punches and then wins from points because that's what works for him. It worked for him for his career and it worked for him against Pacquiao so that's what he'll do this time, especially since an opponent that will be very unpredictable.
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>>741444023
Floyd has lost multiple fights but since boxing is fixed he "won" same with the Tommy hearns fight
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>>741441647
This is all about black vs white. So of course I'm going for black and I'm not even black.
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>>741446913
he can't hit as hard as he used to after his bones were broken true, does that make him incapable of punching? no. Floyd has broken his hands a few times making them pretty diminished giving McGregor the upper hand there.
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>>741446913
PS Floyd broke BOTH his hands not just one you dumb nigger multiple times.
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Anyone who considers Floyd a great doesn't know shit about boxing he's got dominated in fights every round but some how won cause it's all fixed to make them money
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Floyd also has a bad knee to which will effect his footwork
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>>741446709
Like i said i trust professionals that know more than me, i dont know the statistics for global warming or if they or good or not i just trust the 99% scientists that say its real, if you know more than everyone go get a fucking job as a fight analyst faggot
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>>741447223
Especially since he likes to run like a little bitch most of the time and win my points.
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>>741447004
Ya might not be black, fella, but yer definitely a nigger.
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>>741444231
Dude, I'm a huge conor nuthugger but if you've ever seen him fight you know stamina is what he's NOT known for. Granted, I will say I think he has learned to manage it better after the diaz fights, but floyd's stamina is way better than conors. Floyd usually goes WAY over 12 rounds in sparring and brings in someone new every couple rounds.
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lets just be honest this fight is going to be a huge fucking disappointment like the pacquiao v mayweather, hes gonna dance around the ring avoid the fight and not go for a knock out
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i just put 2 £50 bets on mcgregor

£50 on Decision £1150 back
£50 on win (ko/tko etc.) £275

Should i put a first round bet on either of them?
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I hope the roof caves in and kills them both. They're a fucking waste of oxygen.
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>>741447371
you're also forgetting Mayweather is a runner, he just runs around the ring jabbing every now and then to win off points, if Conor gets a hit in he's done for.
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>>741441647
Merryweather is going to win.

McGregor may be a savage bastard, but he's not a boxer.
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>>741447510
My point was just that conor is generally known for gassing out after a couple of rounds. But I'll sort of agree with you. Conor has so real fucking serious power for his weight divison, so IF he hits floyd there is a chance he rocks it, it's just super unlikely. As much as I want conor to KO the fuck outta floyd, you have to remember that the top boxers who had trained specifically for this sport their whole lives couldn't even win against mayweather. He's arguably the greatest defensive boxer ever, so conor is gonna have one hell of a hard time. Im rooting for him though.
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>>741441733
LOL go back to bed kid. Anyone that knows anything about fighting knows a few things.

- Floyd is 49-0 and Conor is 0-0
- Conor would end Floyd's life in anything other than a pure boxing MATCH.
- Conor is 28 hits harder than Floyd and is more athletic and tough

All that being said Floyd will likely just dance around like he did with Manny and it will be boring as fuck
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>>741441647
Anyonw who thinks Conor is a racist can do the world a huge favour and jump in front of a train after sucking Shaun Whites cock
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>>741441647
Rofl I can not hate black people for once. Mayweather is gonna MOP the floor with his braggy irish ass. That guy is so fuckced
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Mayweather for a number of reasons. Instead of listing them all, let me posit a question. How often does one switch sports and remain successful?

Seeing as, you know, it didn't work for Kimbo Slice, Micheal Jordan, Brock Lesnar, Jerry Rice, Jose Canseco, James Toney, Johnnie Morton, Usain Bolt, Manute Bol, Emmanuel Yarborough, Tracy McGrady, Chris Chelios, Dwain Chambers, or Israel Folau...
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>>741442150
Khabib got lit up by fucking Micheal Johnson, Conor will tune him worse than he did Eddie. Dumb casuals.
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>>741441647
The nigger, because he probably has a gun.
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>>741446618
fanboy and an imitator
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>>741447832
The guy is probably not racist, but he's trashy as fuck
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>>741441693
Odds aren't even that great because so many dumb fucking idiots like you are betting on mcgregor
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if conor wins floyd will be carried out in a stretcher
if mayweather wins conor will walk out of the ring without even staggering
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>>741447703
kind of hard to gas out when you aren't doing the running and you are used to opponents that can also kick, charge, grapple
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>>741448332
Did you forget your tapout t-shirt?
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>>741441647
>>741441647
Here's how it's gonna go. Mayweather hasn't gotten a knockout in about a decade and he sure as shit won't get one here. McGregor is used to getting bludgeoned with kicks and ufc gloves, he won't go down.

McGregor doesn't throw a lot of cheap shots to get points from the shot counts. He makes his punches count. If McGregor throws something it connects and it staggers the fuck out of the other guy. He's gonna tag Mayweather a few times and make him wobbly. But just a few, Mayweather is a defensive master and very few shots will connect.

Also, Mayweather is lame as fuck in his old age because he doesn't get knockouts or have any great power. He has two tools, hug and show flurries. If the other guy is connecting Mayweather hugs until the ref saves him. He does this like 5 times in a minute span.

Then Mayweather does show fluries. He knows, sure as shit, he won't get a knockout so he throws quick combos of like 3-5 shots with no power behind them to get a win by decision from the shot count.

This is why Mayweather has gotten a win by decision in several fights where the other guy connected the only shots that mattered. Unfortunately boxing puts way more weight into the number of shots connected over the shots that connected solidly and rattled the opponent.

That's why Mayweather wins by decision in a hug and show flurry fight. It will be dull as fuck to watch like the Paquio (sp?) fight.
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>>741448535
mayweather will likely get a technicial decision if he wins.

conor will have to hit him hard enough to take him down. problem is mayweather uses intense anti pain drugs. meaning the only way he's going down and staying down isn't from shock, only way he's going to stay down is from severe and permanent damage....
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Connor is a MMA fighter albeit with a very strong left hook that can compete with many boxers, he's at his prime and can take a lot of punishment but he's trained for MMA so he's got a hurdle or two in terms of natural reflex to overcome. If his training goes well enough and he manages to condition many of his reactions to that of a boxer he's got a very good fighting chance.

Mayweather is a seasoned champ, the odds are in his favour but he's hardly in his prime any more. since he's fighting on his terms he's got a better chance and mostly must avoid mcgreggors left hook, which he's more than definitely aware of, unless he falls for dumb baits and trades and gets a hit too many he should be fine.

In terms of mental strain though, mayweather has a lot more to lose and Conor is great at playing mental games, he's definitely a cocky asshole who knows how to hype for money but in his preshow acts he can rile up his opponents enough to make them susceptible to dumb baits, in all honesty though I don't think mayweather should/would fall for that shit since he's been in the game for long enough but greater boxers have fallen prey to dumber men.

If you're to ask me who'd win, my honest opinion is that most of these televised sports events are rigged, look at the overall picture, whoevers victory leaves the bookies in the negative will not win, this has had very few exceptions in history and will more than likely be the case again. So until betting odds are finalised I'm not sure
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https://youtu.be/orr8JffO7a0

Check this shit out scrubs then come talk to me
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>>741442934
This
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>>741448840
hugs don't work so well against an MMA fighter. maybe a boxer who doesn't know how to grapple.
even if he hugs him and whispers something like i'll give you all the money i earn from this fight if u let me win. mcgregor is the type of guy to agree then go back on his word and fucking cream him and then talk about it in the news the next day
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>>741441647

>Turns into another boring Mayweather fight where Mayweather dodges everything for 8 rounds
>McGregor finally has a lightbulb go off
Wtf Am I doing boxing? lol ... this is kind of faggy
>Beginning of the 9th round
>McGregor roundhouse kicks Floyd knocking him the fuck out
>Conor losses
>Floyd Knocked out
>Everyone gets their moneys worth

PRetty sure this will happen
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>>741449489
Yeah, I hope Connor can fuck him up in the clinch. He does all the time in UFC. But most likely the ref will separate. Half of Mayweather's shtick is dependent on hugs and ref separations. I hope the ref lets them fight in the clinch for a bit, Connor will probably fuck him up.
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>>741442596
No. I saw part of it like 2 weeks ago at a family members house while visiting. It was on regular tv, braise the payperview airing was over. I saw this shit all over facebook, about the fight tonight. This shit happened already.
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>>741449685
I'm sure Connor would get a lifelong ban from professional boxing, but it would totally be worth it. And honestly, having trained MMA all his life, it could totally come from instinct with the roundhouse connecting a second before McGregor realizes what he's done.
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>>741445988
>random spic is the same as world class proven boxer.
Stfu the more you type, the dumber you become
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>>741449686
the ref won't have enough time to separate... mcgregor isn't in this to win he's in it to prove something. He'll take the cheap shot and risk a DQ he won't wait and look at the ref and hope he allows him to fight
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>>741444231
mr sensible has spoken. what do you want to see?
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>>741446952
Finally someone gets it. Mayweather fights for the judges not knockouts. Only way there will be any change is IF Mcgregor can land a solid enough blow to knock him out
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>>741449859
>say's it's a random spic when it's really an ex-champ because Conor knocked his shit in with one punch.

go back to watching BBC porn and posting "you mad white boi" threads to raise your self-esteem
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McGregor to win by submission.
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McGregor

Super male vitality
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>>741446748
he already fought him in his gym and won easily Paulie said so himself
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>people are still talking about this match
here's what's going to happen
Mayweather is going to spend the entire match on defense, running away like a baby and getting some counters in
Meanwhile the rest of the world will fall asleep by the 4th round, only to be woken up to see that Mayweather won again
Mayweather has good boxing technique, but it doesn't make for a fun match to watch as a spectator unless you used to box/know a lot about boxing
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