Are there any swaggering MAGAs in here anymore? If so, how do

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>>741246834
No one cares. Trump's approval rating's are in the shitter because the only people that care about his approval rating are the ones that are pushing it down.

I'm not even a Trump voter, and I can see the extreme bias from shills, marketers, large and small media, insignificant college students, and people who just cant let the election go.

Please though, Push Trump out of office and let Mike "Put gays in the chair" Pence be president.

>>741246834
>CNN
>believing anything they say about Trump
Are you retarded?

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>>741246834
>CNN

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>>741246979
This guy gets it

>>741247037
So his approval rating isn't hot garbage?

>>741247209
See
>>741246979

>>741246834
>implying I didnt vote for Trump for the sweet liberal tears alone

>>741246834
Trigger hounds are dick sucking faggots, faggot.

>>741246834
Because polls are so reliable.

99.5% Clinton remember?

>>741246834
If you are looking for swaggering MAGAs, head over to /pol/. I think they still have daily "president trump general" threads where they suck his dick for every twitter post.

>>741247873
You were with her

>>741246979
>I'm not even a Trump voter, and I can see the extreme bias from shills, marketers, large and small media, insignificant college students, and people who just cant let the election go.
By chance does that mean you voted for Paul but when Trump won you were actually thrilled and now that he's failing you can't accept it?

>>741247852
>>741247852
this

>>741246834
it was 28% last week when you made this shit thread

>>741247852
So Trump's approval rating isn't hot garbage?

>>741246834
hehehehheh CUCKS Trump is the smartest!!!!! Anything else is fake news :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>741246834
Its going to be year 8 and these threads will still be up.

>>741246979
This guy gets it

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>>741246834
Using a CNN article to prove a point

She can still win! Hang in there!

>>741246834
It's all a part of his plan. He's gaming everyone all the time.

>>741248042
You still a believer?

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People who would go on cnn would of course say they don't approve trump on polls and crap who cares what they say

>>741246979
Trumptard denial would be funny if it wasn't so goddamn sad.

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You are posting polls from people who fucked polls. There is no credibility in these "polls". Either learn that or just accept you only believe what you are fed.

>>741248000
>>741247209
Hes a disaster to be sure but the people who wanted Trump to be elected really did not know what they wanted. He was different and thats all that mattered.

Tbh hes really revitalized my trust in the political system like if the system was rigged he never woulda became president and his whole "try to be a dictator in a democratic country" is getting him torn apart his bills are getting shot down by the legislative his executive orders are getting hit by judges. As a country we dont necessarily agree on many issues but I think everyone can agree hes doing a shit job.

I mean objectively he is doing poorly and most people do recognize it.

Don't mean to rub it in your faces except I mean I do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhzoy6LdQWg

>>741248498
>the people who wanted Trump to be elected really did not know what they wanted.

Much like people who voted for Obama only cause he was black.

>>741248723
yea its pretty analogous

>>741248498
Agreed. I've actually regained a bit of faith in the process. Checks and balances are working. If anything, his incompetence has spurred Congress to begin collaborating across party lines.

>>741246979
"Give that faggot the juice."

-Mike Pence's first order as President.

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>>741246834
I don't trust polls.

>>741248853
I'm interested to see what the presidency is like post Trump. I feel hes changed the rules a little bit.

I believe if he'd listen to Bannon and stop listening to mainline republicans like Preibus and Paul Ryan he'd be much more successful and popular. He's trying to please too many people. He needs to just stick to his campaign promises.

Unfortunately no matter what he does though he will have the entire government working against him, including his own party. I don't know how anyone can be expected to succeed with that kind of opposition. Honestly the country would be better off if the house and senate were dissolved.

>>741248498
>Hes a disaster to be sure but the people who wanted Trump to be elected really did not know what they wanted.
I'll agree to that and add because they are idiots.

>>741249343
I think saying they are idiots is a little simple but yea it came from a place of ignorance to be sure.

I dont think anyone expected that he would ACTUALLY win. Its like living in another universe the other one that shouldnt that happened you know?

>>741248042
They probably just let Trump be King after 8 years see how we can't take a another chance of a nigger fucking things up again.

>>741249645
So how is Trump working out for you currently is the question.

I'm kind of torn - on one hand, I am enjoying the deadlock of the government grinding and doing nothing but sowing discord amongst everyone so they can see first hand how fucking wasteful and useless it really is.
On the other hand, I think some of his legislative bills would be great for the US if liberal judges would stop being butthurt by everything he's pushing - and I don't even like the guy. Didn't vote for him, and think he should be stripped of his stupid twitter account.
But limiting unskilled immigrants is exactly what Canada does - you have to prove you'd be a good addition to their country plus have useful skills, as well as an established work history within the country before they will consider allow you to immigrate.
Not a single fucking one of you leftist cocksuckers complained about their immigration policy when you fucktards were claiming you're going to move there is he won.
Pro tip: you knowing how to make a large soy crappa mochey iced latte with upside caramel or how to pickup a food order and take it to a table isn't the type of skilled labor they want. You wouldn't have gotten approved.

>>741249835
If* he won.

>>741249835
I feel the same. Like hes an abomination of a president but at the same time hes turning the whole system on its head.

I doubt America lets another "Trump" be elected in the entire rest of its history.

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>>741248498
An intelligent poster on 4chan wow

>>741249826
He is doing exactly what the people that voted for him wanted. Ppl are tired of establishment politicians that are corrupt and they changed shot. It will never be the same again enough ppl have woken up.

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>>741249105

>I don't trust polls.

What's not to trust there? The poll said that Trump had a 7% chance of winning, not that he would get 7% of the total votes, you spongo.

Your chance of winning the lottery is one in 160 million and still people win.

>>741250157
self esteem +1

>its the little victories

TRUMP 2020

>>741250177
>He is doing exactly what the people that voted for him wanted.
Being an objective, embarrassing failure?

>>741246834
Didn't vote for the guy, still happy he won. Hillary would have been a nightmare. Hillary+dem congress could have been the worst thing to happen since the 1860s.

Mock that all you like but they would have held enough power to do pretty much anything they want and damn sure would have abused it in spectacular fashion. When one party holds the white house, congress, and the supreme court bad shit can happen. As much as I hate to say it I trust the turds in the GOP a hell of a lot more than I do the illiberal fuckheads that make up the Democrats.

All that matters is that the Supreme Court is protected with Trump.

>>741250471
Yes!

Because the kind of success we've been having isnt so good. I think Trump is the wake up call we as a society needed.

>>741250472
I thought the republicans had congress?

>forgive my ignorance

>>741250005
I hope it's nothing but Trumps from now on. Traditional politicians are the corrupt ingrained system that lead to where we are now - widespread NSA spying on us, corporations essentially run the show because of bribes and backroom deals with puppet politicians on their payroll, lifelong entrenchment by these fucking parasites who lie, cheat, murder and steal to keep their power once elected -
All
Of
Them
All of them are worthless pieces of human shit and not worthy of their job. Our elected officials are supposed to be our voices, our servants. They are supposed to work on our behalf, not so they can make the government stronger and their pockets fuller.
I blame the citizens too for keeping it that way. They take their free handouts and tax breaks like it is some sort of candy that they deserve, and they keep these cocksuckers in power as long as they get their freebies - which aren't free.
People have forgotten what our government was supposed to be - an extension of us, not its own self inflating entity that it is now.
So let it finally falter and die - get rid of the assholes who keep it status quo, and keep the upheaval going even if it means nothing gets done - it will force people to learn to do for themselves or do without. I think people should not rely on the government if they are able bodied - get off your fucking asses and learn a skill. Take some fucking pride in learning a trade and fucking do it. Get paid for your time and effort, not expect fucking handouts from on high.

Weekly Standard turns on Trump
http://www.weeklystandard.com/playing-defense/article/2009135#!

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>>741250471
Pinko commie socialist fags crying no more free crap but I don't see anyone running down to Venezuela so just sit there and enjoy the show cuck.

>>741250665
They do but unlike the democrats many of them actually care about the constitution and they're not nearly as unified on a lot of issues. The great thing about trump is he might as well be an independent with GOP leanings.

>>741250279
The reason they put the do not eat on dessicant packs is for retards like you.
You obviously don't know how odds work. Dumbass.

>>741250682
>I hope it's nothing but Trumps from now on. Traditional politicians are the corrupt ingrained system that lead to where we are now - widespread NSA spying on us, corporations essentially run the show because of bribes and backroom deals with puppet politicians on their payroll, lifelong entrenchment by these fucking parasites who lie, cheat, murder and steal to keep their power once elected -
Drain the swamp!

>>741250815
That sounds purposefully idiotic.

>>741250831
its really more of a curse than a blessing as hes made enemies on both sides of the aisle

>>741250994
But that's a good thing for us, it curbs his potential power. He can't just wave his hand and pass things.

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>>741250970
Cosmopolitan doofus!

>>741250729
>turns on trump
You mean the media is finally showing its true Jew owned colors?
Color me shocked. No, really. Shocked.

>>741251109
Sounds like a conspiracy. You got a theory?

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>>741250832

>You obviously don't know how odds work. Dumbass.

Actually I passed Statistics 1 and 2 at Uni without any problems.

>>741249105

That's not a poll that's a statistical analysis based on polls you stupid cunt.

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>>741246834
yes

>>741246834
I like him but I'm retarded and gay

>>741251078
Thats been my entire thing all along. Trump if nothing else has given me faith that our country wont fail based on a single stupid individual.

The thing is we as individuals need to decide what is socially acceptable IRL not on the internet and act upon it.

Its really easy to think that the internet determines reality but it doesnt its why liberals cry such delicious tears.

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>>741246834
Hillary would be at the same level if she was elected...don't fool yourself.

>>741251228
Must have been from affirmative action, because you're a retarded nigger.

>>741251399
at least her staff would know wtf they were doing....

>>741251280
That represented the polls, you fucking retarded mung.

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>>741248071

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>>741251157
William Kristol's wife is Susan Scheinberg, Fred Barnes wife is Barbara (maiden name unknown) - but my guess is she's Jew too, and they both are there for their good little converted goy as rewards for doing what they were told.

>>741246979
>Please though, Push Trump out of office and let Mike "Put gays in the chair" Pence be president.

Straight up the dumbest, laziest sentiment and you retards can't stop saying it like it means anything.

If you still believe polls in current year you have no business voting.

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I know some of you kids are confused because you have been told nothing but lies all the way through school including college. Stop being so beta and eat meat sissy you will like it.

>>741251466

The polls, when extrapolated nationwide, showed an average *popular* vote win % of ~ 3-5% for Hillary. The polls did not predict electoral votes, dumb ass commentators did.

Ultimately, the polls were very accurate in aggregate. What wasn't was the analysis.

>>741250898
>>Drain the swamp!
Ti hire all the swamp creatures isn't draining the swamp...

>>741246834
Fake news.

Fake polls.

Nothing new here.

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>>741249835

>>741251765
>polls were very accurate
Oh yeah, you right. That's why Clinton won and is president now, right?
Fucktard.

>>741251801
>fox echochamber

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>>741251302

>politicaloutsource.com

Typical agenda driven right wing bullshit outlet. Just look at their other reporting.

Post some breitbart of infowars screenshots next.

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>>741251451
You think so don't you new fag

>>741251857

In aggregate the polls showed a 3-5% national *popular* vote tally. The polls never measured electoral votes.

iow, you are dumb

>>741251392
It's precisely why I'm happy he won. Definitely had other far more favored candidates but at least it's the guy who intentionally or not is going to end up blocking much of his own potential power.

>liberals
Remember though, they're not liberals at all. The people you're referencing are almost always progressives, socialists, or outright commies. They get more and more extreme and less liberal as they go deeper down those rabbit holes.

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>>741252028
Lol

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>>741251759

seriously, that's why we follow this cool ass alpha president

>>741252064
>at least it's the guy who intentionally or not is going to end up blocking much of his own potential power.

Very weak argument at worst, optimistic at best.

>>741251801
So Trump's approval rating is hot garbage?

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>>741252063
Trump won the popular vote also. Couple million dead people, illegal alien voters and felons voted and should not be counted so he won everything.

>>741247943

In what way is he failing? The stock market is at a record high, employment is up, we're actually making a GDP growth for a change, and illegal immigrants crossing the border is down 53%.

If he can just get rid of the unaffordable care act, he'll be god-tier

>>741252320
How many real aliens voted as well?

>>741252063
And yet in pretty much all 50 states the electors voted along with the popular vote of that state...
Now, lemme see, who won again?
Oh that's right.
Nice strawman btw - polls were for how the leftists they polled were voting, and not electors and the rest of the country.
Polls mean jack shit - always gave, always will.
Dumbass.

>>741246834 lmfao, you haven't realized this is CNN getting back at us for calling them fake news

>>741252511
So Trump's approval rating isn't hot garbage?

>>741252511
>>>741246834 (OP) lmfao, you haven't realized this is CNN getting back at us for calling them fake news
>sessions met with Russians
>FAKE NEWS!
>trump met with Russian agents to illegally collude on the election
>FAKE NEWS!
>trump told Donald Jr to lie about that meeting
>FAKE NEWS!
>disarray and backstabbing at the White House
>FAKE NEWS!

Sure, kid.

>>741252162
So what you're saying is he could wave his hand and pass something like maybe even a simple Obamacare repeal?

The dems already hate him because he's not Hillary and the GOP is not exactly keen on his antics either. His crazy behavior isn't exactly unifying the GOP. They're not going to do whatever he wants. Had Hillary won and the dems taken congress she'd have a blank check as all but a few of her party's members would undoubtedly have bowed to her whim.

>>741252297
When you choose to ask one area of disgruntled leftists if they think the president is doing a good job, you set it up for low approval ratings.
Same thing if you have an internet poll for voting - republicans work, so they don't play on Facebook all day taking polls, because you know, actually working.
And if you think polls online can't be controlled - MARBLECAKES.

>>741252635
Not to mention zero media scrutiny because woman. Hillary would have been by far the worst possible outcome.

>>741246834
I voted republican down the ballot because I'm not a minority. I'm an Eisenhower republican more concerned with fiscal conservatism and efficient governance than lambasting mmuh regulations and morality-based governance. I can't say I was too excited about trump, I thought jeb would do the best job, memes aside, because he'd bring in a tested team of competent people he would listen to. I thought trump acted like a cunt to him and rubio, neither of those two deserved the lambasting. Winning was a miracle though so I pushed aside my doubts.

Half a year in, I feel pretty annoyed with how little the Republicans have managed to get done. No infrastructure plan, no healthcare plan, it only looks like the tax cut for record-setting-profits corporations might have a chance to pass, which makes you wonder how they'll be able to even budget infrastructure of healthcare reform once they reduce federal revenue further (apparently Obamacare started being budget-positive and bringing in more revenue than costs, so getting rid of it and working to undermine it doesn't make much sense anymore). I think unless we enact huge campaign finance reforms to limit Institutionalized corruption (lobbying) in our elective system, this legislative paralysis will only get worse year by year, especially in our party.

The president isn't exempt from blame in this sorry state of inaction. He seems more interested in picking fights with his advisors and legislators than governing. I hate to say it, but hes competely incompetent. It might not be so bad if he would lean on his secretaries and advisors for guidance for the lack of expedience. It's hard to pretend that's happening. I hope things change for the better soon or we'll lose the presidency and senate in 2018.

>>741252683
God that was a great day.

>>741252683
So Trump's approval rating, according to any source you like, isn't shit?

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>>741250682

My good sir, the problem with this, though your overall point has merit, is that Trump is more corrupt than Clinton as is the entire Republican party. This is in no way a defense of Democrats btw.

Trump is balls-deep in every shady activity imaginable and is objectively a detriment to everything he touches. He literally has done nothing his entire life but scam, swindle, lie, and make back-alley deals. He is a crook as bad as any you've ever seen.

But I agree with some of the anons here that he has shaken shit up and have restored some faith in democracy in that even his own supposed party and supporters are turning on him. He is a valuable cautionary tale as well.

Ironically, I think deep down he does have some ok ideas and is not simply an evil son of a bitch to the core as a person and he has some redeeming features. I can't to see the executive orders and legislation he goes wild with on his way out of office. Like when G.W. pissed on his own fossil fuel/pro-pollution masters and signed off on the largest oceanic nature preserve in the world on his way out the door once he didn't have to kiss donor and party ass. Trump will shit in red state's mouths once he doesn't actually have to care (and right now, he cares a lot).

>>741250279
but what about all the inner-city black who for years ate paint chips?

you know they grew up and voted for the same person you did.

>>741252757
That is the genuine state of the Republican Party. The only reason Trump got elected was he was outside that and they all treated him as an outsider. Now we see how fractioned the Republican party really is and their actual dysfunction.

The Democrats are also in real danger of this too.

In reality, the US has 5 major political parties brought in under 2 umbrellas.

>>741250665
sad

>>741252320

You're too dumb to vote, please never do it again.

>>741251228
he shows this picture in his defense.
you must be a paint chip eater too.

>>741252635

Repealing Obamacare is perhaps the hardest thing among those stupid things he promised in the election.

>>741252831
I don't like Trump, but I don't trust polls, from any source, because they're all biased.

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>>741253058

You must be mad though.

>>741253076
What about 'fixing' the tax code?

>>741253136
So you don't trust math?

>>741253136
They would never over sample democrats like just before the election.

>>741253136
Sounds like a conspiracy. You got a theory?

>>741252863
I have no doubt he's corrupt - he's a business magnate after all.
But the idea of non established people being up to turn government on its head is what I meant - no more career politicians.

>>741253246
I don't trust people. I trust math absolutely - people fuck it up.
Shit in, shit out.

>>741253076
It's something that the GOP in general wanted. On that issue he might as well have had a loaded deck but still lost even with his open and constant demands.

>>741253246
How many times do you need to see the polls be completely wrong before it clicks? Polls are deliberately oversampled. They're for influencing what people think, not for measuring what people actually think.

>>741253297

I think if he could somehow fuck over lobbyists, he would go from epic inept boob to a true hero of the people in one fell swoop. Until that happens, presidents are mostly interchangeable.

>>741253248
No, never. You right.

>>741253277
Yes - it called "reading." Try it sometime.

>>741253405
This - get rid of the corps who have politicians in their pocket and it would be much better.

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>>741246834
Yeah, Trump's the man. Feeling fine; and your polls are rigged. Just like before the election.

>>741246834
And yet, he's still more popular than Hillary

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>>741252939
Democrats are paralyzed on common sense reforms as well, they huge donations from many of the same huge donors and special interests, who want to hedge their bets by buying off the opponents too. There's no reason tax loopholes are keeping over 2 trillion in taxes out of reach overseas, while the people gaming the system are pumping billions of dollars into our election system to enact legislation reducing their tax rate even further. Its currently set at 35% afaik, but on average companies pay half this rate. Many hugely profitable corportations pay a zero percent effective tax rate.

Meanwhile, middle class Americans are paying a proportionally larger share of the annual tax revenue than ever before, while experiencing a 50-year stagnation in wages and purchasing power. There's common-sense fixes to this problem. We have a consumer-driven domestic economy. Imagine what anot unprecedented boost the economy would experience if people had a surge in purchasing power. It's time for government to represent the interests of the middle class again. Not the poor, and not the rich. This is the best way to encourage a revival and re-expansion of the middle class

>>741253394

It isn't over, he probably will see an Obamacare repeal/replace.

>>741253627
Well I get my news from USAPatriotArmyExplosions.com, and did you know Hillary killed Seth Rich to help Podesta fuck children? LOCK HER UP!

>>741253673
So they're... cutting taxes for Rich?

Sounds like a great plan.

>>741252382
>The stock market is at a record high, employment is up, we're actually making a GDP growth for a change, and illegal immigrants crossing the border is down 53%.

Absolutely none of this is directly related to Executive actions. Market is still assuming there's a tax break for the rich coming. Deregulation of the banking industry thanks to a cabinet full of former bankers.

Since Rush-types don't understand Obama was deporting mother fuckers in huge numbers. Not returning. REMOVING.

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not

>>741253762
Yes, the democrats and republicans both are, because the top wealthiest are also democrats. They love being hypocrites.

>>741253762
That's the plan, they're under huge pressure from superPACs to deliver after the donor class kept cutting checks when everyone thought clinton was going to win

>>741253841
What legislation has the Democratic party supported in recent years to cut taxes for the rich to help the middle class?

>>741253694
Probably, but it should have been a lot easier for them. Lets hope the next attempt isn't another love letter to the insurance companies.

>>741253441
I don't trust reading, it's all biased.

>>741253694
>It isn't over, he probably will see an Obamacare repeal/replace.

Problem is that only something like 25% of the country wants it gone. It's been in the system for nearly a decade and people have figured out they like health care.

GOP should have just removed the mandate for individuals, shored up the markets a bit, and renamed it. They would have scored easy points. Now it's too far gone. Anything removing big pieces and it's going to be hugely unpopular.

>>741253841
Actually pretty true, Chuck Schumer hinted last week to reporters that he was looking forward to working with republicans on ((((tax reform)))). Democrats are historically more in favor of a progressive tax structure (tax the rich more in general terms) and have been opposing republicans on cutting traces on the wealthy pretty consistently for many decades. However, Democrats are on the rocks now, and might be looking to hold onto donor bux to keep them alive and floating in money. They're looking to make a big 2018 push to win back seats in time for tee redistricting, but I doubt they'll take the house majority, no matter how much disapproval trump gets in the public opinion

>>741247852
>implying 0,5% is 0%

>>741254179
>Donald Trump has not paid taxes in 20 years

I like how people 'killed by taxes' think Trump will do things in their interests.

>>741246834
you do realize Trump as president was mostly a meme. Most people didn't actually care, they just wanted to piss people off and laugh.

>>741254023
It is, when you're stupid and don't understand things.

>>741246834
I believe in Trump, I voted for him to solely prevent Hillary from winning. Mission accomplished. cry cry cry, you lost

>>741247852
538 had it at 71% 29%. Hardly 99.5%. In fact he changed his percentage right before the election.

>>741252757
Hey look! A real republican!

>>741253904
They can claim anything, the fact is when they had control, they could have undone a lot of those tax breaks and laws allowing what is allowed.
Did they? No. They enjoy status quo just as much as their republican counterparts. Both sides use the other as the foil - in reality, they are two sides of the same coin.
Stop being deluded.

>>741254303
>you do realize Trump as president was mostly a meme. Most people didn't actually care, they just wanted to piss people off and laugh.
Well then those people have some shitty values.

>>741253076
What about beating Isis is 30 days or building a wall and having mexico pay for it?

>>741254590
Why, I enjoy seeing you butthurt. It's great.

>>741254352
Tell me more about how you know how things actually work.

>>741248498
i agree 100%

>>741254179
Chuck Schumer's as big a Wall Street whore as the GOP

Chuckie's gonna be facing some serious grass-roots pressure though. The kind that crushes people.

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>>741246834
Considering that I voted Trump to troll my nation, pretty great. 3 1/2 more years of comedy gold.

>>741246834
Its only the media circus if you actually read about the stuff the admin is ACTUALLY DOING I think its great so far.

stopped funding isis, clearing out burdensome regs, ending stupid policies. Its been, jesus I dont even know in my life if there has been an executive that actually cut down on DC's bullshit.

Congress is a whole other story, theyve been total shit for decades.

Try not to get wrapped up in the palace intrigue cause thats all fucking nonsense. The president isnt a king, he is the CEO of the federal government. People need to stop getting so wrapped up in it emotionally.

>>741254849
The thing is, I don't even give a shit about which side is whining. It's still awesome.

>>741253395
Some are bias for sure, but approval raitings are not the same as %chance to win. You should try to understand what a pol is saying, not what the media wants you to think it says.

>>741254140
more like 20% of people getting free healthcare want to keep it and the other 80% of us who have gainfull employment are paying out the ass for it.

Obamacare fucking sucks, they should have just taken the 5 million poor blacks and rolled them into medicaid

>>741254849
I hope you develop ass cancer that doesn't kill you but forces you to shit into a colostomy bag for the rest of your life.

>>741255106
you really need to not be so emotional about a president.

Its childish and embarrassing for you.

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>>741254849
H-haha nothing matters

>>741255106
While that's kind of harsh I can't think of anything positive to say about people that say they voted Trump for laughs/tears.

>>741254849
What state do you live in?

>>741254731
We'll I know you're dumb enough to keep responding, dumbass.

>>741255232
Dude you are childish and embarrassing.

>>741246834
trump is president because 4chan doesnt know when trolling goes to far
..
even btards never thought he would be a good president

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>>741255364
lol grow up.

>>741255427
So you were just trolling all this time.

>>741255022
Great idea, america. Remove healthcare with your evergrowing unemployment rate and poverty. You are screaming for civic unrest.

>>741255022
If you were paying any attention you'd know that everyone's premiums will shoot up because of the fuckery

>>741255480
yeah you are a complete shit.. enjoy living in your parents basement for yo lifee haaa

>>741255555
oh snap look at my 55555555s never done that b4

>>741255555
>>741255577
lol...

>>741255555
>>741255577
>>741255609
Samefag

>>741255555
>>741255577
>>741255609
>>741255632
Samefag

>>741255530
Yeah but I fucking hate poor people and I dont want my money going to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ46I3kMOr0

kys faggot

>>741255632
?gafemaS

If your state was red in the Electoral College vote and you voted for Hillary, your vote didn't count.

Vice versa for Blue states with voters for Trump.

The election system in this country is trash.


>>741255671
Prove you aren't poor.

>>741255555
Nice trips but I already own my own basement.


sometimes when I have guests in town they sleep down there.

>>741255719
I make significantly more money than the US average?

>>741247852
That's not a poll, that's a prediction, you retard

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>>741247852
>>741247959
>>741248000
>>741254426
>>741255767

>>741255765
And I'm a millionaire.

Trump supporters are so retarded he's literally convinced everyone that statistics and facts are fake, it's impossible to even argue with them because they can just dismiss anything that makes Trump looks bad

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>>741248498
>I mean objectively he is doing poorly and most people do recognize it.
How is he doing a poor job?

(I'm not American so pls no bully)

>>741255813
Trump's approval rating is measurable fact, bad predictions are just people's opinions that were wrong, you can't compare them

>>741255736
>5
>tri
Anon...

>>741255871
I'm a lefty but no, you are wrong. They poll to get the approval ratings. So they attempt to use a good sample for the data, but polls are pretty terrible in terms of reliability now.

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>>741246834
don´t believe statistics that you haven´t faked yourself

>>741255961
The sample is usually completely random, and there are many many polls from many different organisations coming out all the time, allowing you to get an average

>>741256098
Polls and predictions are not the same thing, stop denying reality, how do you expect to have honest discussions about the topics if you just dismiss information right off the bat?

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>>741252382
>The stock market is at a record high
Really make you wonder why...

>>741256198
the prediction is made after polling the general population
the problem that happens is that they don´t actually poll all kinds of people but they tend to poll more left people
be it because of bias or a general unwillingness of the right people to participate
ie predictions are the same as polls in their point of failure

>>741255961
>I'm a lefty but no, you are wrong. They poll to get the approval ratings. So they attempt to use a good sample for the data, but polls are pretty terrible in terms of reliability now.
If that were the case I haven't seen even one positive approval rating.

>>741256210
did the euro rise or did the dollar fall desu

>>741256323
It really depends on the organisation, there are plenty of bipartisan polls and even right wing polls are they're usually all very close to each other

>>741256408
dollar has fallen against 6 top currencies

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>>741248000

not yet

>>741256550
Nobody in this thread is talking about fucking HC.

>>741246834
Who cares about the liberal pushed approval rating. Gdp is at 3% which was going to be damn near impossible after all the bullshit sanctions the Obama administration put on small American businesses. Trump's promise to cut 2 for every 1 is actually 16:1 and we've seen unemployment go down and basically everything thing else we actually need save for the general opinion from far left faggot's and a some other countries.

Just gonna throw this out there... You liberals get that if he gets it up to 4% he WILL be president again, right? It will be 1984 all over again, and for you uneducated idiots out there I'm not referencing the book, look up the date and the president that basically got 100% of the electoral college votes...

>>741256323
>be it because of bias or the fact uneducated middle americans live in bumfuck nowhere

>>741256460
That's good for me. I make stuff in America and export it. When the dollar is too strong my shit is too expensive.

>>741256550
Clinton and Trump are both massively unpopular

>>741256098
You know chances? Percentage means likelyhood of an outcome. Even a chance of 99.99999% percent doesn't mean the other outcome can't happen. I always thought, this is 9th grade math.

>>741256663
>You liberals get that if he gets it up to 4% he WILL be president again, right?
If you say so.

>>741256652

apologies to the jill stein voter

Fluoride in drinking water
Fluoride in Teflon coating
Lead contamination in soil
Lead paint
Estrogen in drinking water
Radionuclide contamination in high phosphorus fertilizer
Slag exposure
Food shortage
Over population
Eugenics
Civil unrest
Boredom
Pathogens
World peace?
Aliens
Aliens
Dark wizards
Psychics
Class warfare
Class warfare
Supervolcanoes
Accidental injury
Depression
Criminal behaviour
Fluoride in toothpaste
Under exercise
Tooth decay
Poor oral hygiene
Coconuts
Ragweed
Fire ants
Killer bees
Climate change
Stagnation
Illegal dumping
Orbital drift
Greed
Xenophobia
Corruption?
Gender warfare
Black widow/brown recluse
Gamma radiation
Seismic anomaly
Political warfare
Degradation
Devaluation of human life
Drug abuse

>>741256710
And I don't live in the us but get paid in dollar. It is hell for me and pajeets are taking my jobs because of that stupid shit.

>>741256710
Glad to hear, but the downside is, if the dollar keeps slipping, it will pop the stock bubble.

>>741256663
>bullshit sanctions the Obama administration put on small American businesses
Regulations?

>>741256437
that is of course true i´d have to find right wing polls to confirm the low ratings
i haven´t seen any yet though
i am also not particularity interested in this whole topic
i just find it severely amusing

>>741256670
so are you saying that they aren´t polled because they don´t live in big cities?
i mean this of course would be a reasonable assumption seeing how big cities tend to be more democrat

>>741256767
You know chances for elections are not supposed to be pulled out of your ass.
because you just now feel like that one candidate may win, they come out of polls
and if you manipulate the polls you oh wonder can get a 99% win chance for a candidate

>>741256959
If you're asking for examples from that poster, don't hold your breath.

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>>741246834

>>741256964
>You know chances for elections are not supposed to be pulled out of your ass.
>because you just now feel like that one candidate may win, they come out of polls
>and if you manipulate the polls you oh wonder can get a 99% win chance for a candidate
You are still ignoring the word "chance" while using it. And the polls were made months before the election. There was something a week before election, people still hold into account against clinton. You know, the email scandal.

>>741257051
No, just trying to figure out where he got the "sanctions on small businesses" bullshit. It is regulations, and more often then not, there is legitimate reasons behind them.

>>741256964
>that is of course true i´d have to find right wing polls to confirm the low ratings
>i haven´t seen any yet though
>i am also not particularity interested in this whole topic
>i just find it severely amusing
Ah fuck you.

>>741257138
Every polling organisation has Trump's approval rating around that range

>>741257156
i am not ignoring the word chance
i am saying that their chance is based on biased polls that´s all
in general my point was that polls and the "chances" that follow out of those polls are not to be trusted

>>741257138
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/fox-news-poll-trump-approval-down-voters-support-special-counsel-on-russia.html

>>741257256
am i not allowed to be amused by how retarded the mightiest country in the world is acting?
you sir, are an asshole

>>741257313
buddy, if you think fox news isnt just another flavor of the same cnn bullshit I've got news for you

>>741257407
So you know that mainstream media is bullshit but you also don't believe statistics? Where do you get your information from?

>>741257407
sure kid

>>741257309
>i am not ignoring the word chance
>i am saying that their chance is based on biased polls that´s all
>in general my point was that polls and the "chances" that follow out of those polls are not to be trusted
Please stop this fucking reddit spacing. It makes replying to you like cancer.

Polls need to be biased. They always are. For polls are only asked about 10k people and they change based on the day- and weektime. For that reason they are only "predicting" the outcome.

>>741257365
You are but saying you don't trust polls but don't care to back it up coz lulz is bullshit and fuck you.

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>>741246979
I love how more and more people are starting to realize that he's not the one, yet you still lump everyone that disagrees with you (a number that grows daily) into an ever increasing pile of strawman categories. Eventually, it will be able to be summarized by "everyone but me". He's done nothing positive for the country. At best, the shit he hasn't touched is unharmed. He's got the king Midas touch, except he turns everything to shit.

>>741257407
Lol wat? Are you serious and do you know your media outlets?

Trump is evidence that politics in America have ground zero. It's absolutely a aesthetic Mobius strip that generates "issues" that are simple enough for public consumption.

That being said, Trump winning is the Democrats fault. They were stupid enough to run a candidate with tons of baggage and obligations. To think Hilary would win on her own inertia was beyond naive.

Clinton couldn't even take strong views on any issues aesthetically. She had so many political obligations she came off as absolute vanilla. Healthcare, Syria, Marijuana; Clinton made it abundantly clear she was going to follow the current political trajectory.

Clinton was nothing to be excited about. Despite media suggesting otherwise, she failed to mobilize her own voters and gave the Republicans an easy opponent to mobilize against.

That being said, the Dems are already planning to btfo Trump. The whole Russia shit fest isn't meant to do anything now. It's just meant to give him tons of trouble when he runs again. If he's elected again, it will be hugely questionable.

>>741257365
Mightiest in what sense? If your answer is anything but defense spending, you are incorrect.

>>741257407
Where should we get our news? Tell us where a completely unbiased, fact only news stream is.

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Reality has a very liberal bias.


Trump, you are 100% full of shit.

>>741257874
>implying

>>741257772
The establishment democrats would rather lose to a republican than win with a populist progressive, that's why they rigged the primaries in Hillary's favour and funnelled so much money into the media pushing their agenda
They knew if Bernie won all the money in politics and corruption that they love so much would be in jeopardy

>>741257620
what are you talking about

this is reddit spacing

and i am not saying that they don´t need to be

i am saying that you should not trust it

what is so hard to understand there?

consider but do not just believe is that something that is too hard to do?
>>741257655
how am i supposed to back up that i do not trust polls?
i in general do not easily trust things i can´t properly verify and since i know for a fact that it is impossible for polls to be objective i just in general mistrust
it so what do you expect me to proof?
the right wing polls i had mentioned would at best only improve the credibility a bit but they nonetheless would be not trustworthy, that´s why i can´t be bothered by it
>>741257786
military spending yes
at least that´s what i would say makes a country mighty

>>741258090
I think a country being mighty should be based on several factors. Education, health (wellness), military might, strength of leadership, literacy (U.S. is nowhere near #1 here), strength of currency, etc

Yes the U.S.A. spends the most on it's military, but boots on the ground is the old way of fighting.

>>741257874
>>741257965

>literally appealing to authority

but I hate the current authorities, so why would I care about Dan Rathers hilarious hyperbole or CNN's corporate news whoring?