How do you feel about homeless people?

>>740871060
Depends, if they're drug abusers, fuck em, if not, they're alright I guess

>>740871060
feelsbadman

>>740871060
We need homeless shelters that aren't ridiculously crazy. It shouldn't be possible to fall through the cracks that far.

>>740871060
Cunts the lot of them

>>740871060
I have lived in San Diego and Seattle so I am completely fed up. There are homeless people who caught a bunch of bad breaks at once and then there are the other 95% who are just lazy begging druggies. The latter I would love to see marched into a gas chamber or recycled into something useful.

>>740871060

Whatever.

>>740871231

What you're talking about are probably gypsies or smartass hobos who try to rob and steal from people.

>>740871060
rebuild the mental institutions/prisons

my pops is a psychiatrist who was running statistical analysis for a study for X university and X psych insurance company a few years ago on the % of homeless people in america and it was some 80% of homeless people are mentally ill and aren't really able to be helped become a "functioning member of society" until they get their mental illnesses treated. The numbers were different when you account addiction as a mental illness I forgot what it was. it was upper 80%'s. Interesting shit, to top it off we have ~400k christian churches around america, and i think close to 600k homeless people sleeping on the streets every night in america. Emphasis and focus on sleeping on the streets. Not just people without a home.

>>740871423
and homeless people can't get their mental illnesses treated because they have no money :(

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>>740871060
Its a shame rich countries allow this to happen.
It wouldnt be necessary.

Almost as bad as hunger deaths in poor countries.

We are far from civilized yet.

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>>740871060
At least where I live, there are SO many opportunities and resources that can keep you off the street if you just have the common sense to do so. Turns out, most of the bums around here lack that one thing. So fuck em. I was sleeping outside a parking garage for 3 months in-between jobs. You just gotta have the tenacity.

I know some who genuinely got fucked by life and deserve help. Others are simply shitty people. They're like any other human being. It also puts things in a whole new lens when you know someone who has been homeless.

>>740871060
Moved out of my parents house a year ago downtow. Gave when i could but slowley started needin the money myself cause am stuggling a bit. Started lossing patience for them when i would see the same people with the same "I never do this and it super embarassing but can you buy me sone food" speil. Or when someone i clearly remember giving money to before puts me on the spot the one time i dont and says "Have you ever given to the less fortunate before, its very humbling." It just rubbed me the wrong way cause i have given him money before plus he doesnt know me and what els i do for charity. They just expect people to give them money and mooch off people cause they decided not to try and keep a job

Some homeless peeps are ok. I had this hobo guy who taught me how to fight when i was about 11. What pisses me is when they ask for cash, you give em and they complain its not enough. Fuckers.

>>740872438
same guy just adding.
I have empathy for those who have been dealt a bad hand and or have mental illness but the ones im talking about are the same groups of young people i see all the time being able to hold a sign but not a job doesnt add up to me. I feel like those types are just generally lazy

>>740871586
It's a broken system

>>740871060
they're poor scum and peasents
>should just get some money
>srs tho if you're too stupid to scam the benefit system you aint gunna make a useful contribution to society
>KYS

>>740871060
Work as a bouncer at a bar. Have exactly 0 compassion now for the homeless. The ones that have a drug problem have no shame, none. Then there are the hustlers that do it for extra cash, while complaining about working the next day.

>>740871060
They are an expensive an unnecessary drain on society. It would be much cheaper to house them and forget about it.
My /pol/ brain is also telling me that we should not allow most of them to breed.

>>740873486
>or pack em off to the camp for a shower

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>>740871060
smell terrible
shoplift and steal
litter
more likely to be violent or crazy than general population
good chance of substance abuse problem
generally awful
good chance they're on the street by choice or the kind of retard that would rather sleep in their car than give up their car and ride public transit while still having a home

>state increases homeless funding by huge margins
>homeless flood in the exploit that
>state declares a homeless crisis and tries to raise taxes to increase bum money meanwhile it allows predatory foreign investors to exploit the mortgage crisis and price people out of homes
>home owners can't sell because they can't buy anything else in the area due to nil availability, stuck unless they want to pay some landlord's mortgage for them
>homelessness increases
>need to raise more taxes
>property and petty crime increases because homeless
>don't want more police because evil whitey
just fuck my shit up
let's elect more fat nigger socialists, that will fix it

My current girlfriend traveled the country homeless and told me all kinds of stories. In general, homeless people almost never use money for food and buy drugs with it. If you really want to help a homeless person, buy them food. Really no point in giving money. She told me about the different types of people she encountered. Very interesting stories.

>>740871060
They should go home.

>>740871060
Get a job.

>>740871060

homeless people are the epitome of human failure, in a time and place with so much ease and opportunity that you squander it all

and before you bring up mental health, there are plenty of people with severe mental issues who can STILL hold a job and pay bills

save your excuses, there are 1 armed retards making livable wages

>>740873547
gentrification is happening more and more.
enjoy your elysium type future as the rest of humanity also begins idiocracy

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>>740874014
Considering you don't fully understand a persons circumstances before they became homeless, it's really not logical to assume all homeless people are the epitome of failure. Perhaps if you are thinking purely in the sense of living the life that's expected of you by society.


Mentally ill people that can hold a job typically have help of some kind. Some homeless people have zero support on top of their mental illness that they can't afford to pay for. It's a little tricky in some situations.

>>740874083
gentrification is largely the natural reversal of block busting social engineering and real estate heebing. it's forcing poors and muds who had no business being there to begin with out and has absolutely nothing to do with what i was speaking of.
this lack of availability caused by predatory property management companies is affecting the suburbs just as badly as the city proper.

>>740873821
did she bang them?

>>740871060
don't care

>>740871060
In my country there's no reason to be homeless.
At all.
The government helps out the ones who need help, they just require you to be a legal citicien and to go to a place and apply for help. They won't bring free money out to those faggots, which some of them cannot even be bothered to get themselves.
Everyone who's outside is there by choice, so i'd say fuck em.

>>740873538
HUD housing is basically the modernized version of this...

I'd say 94% of chronically homeless people are mentally ill. So logically they should be contained and removed from the gene pool.
The other 5% are lazy degenerates, who should be removed from the gene pool strictly due to incompetence.
1% of CHRONICALLY HOMELESS people, are probably normal people who have been delt and awful hand.
Jail is fucking expensive, so that option doesn't make sense unless they are violent.
Government housing is a cheap humane solution to chronic homeless.
These people are already costing tax payers millions in medical bills, police, and not to mention property value.
Put them in a free house and let them die in peace. Worst case scenario you rehabilitate a few normies.

>>740874323

considering you think you fully understand human psychology and that anything that hinders a person from achieving simple goals equates to anything other than simple failure as a human being?

you think you understand circumstance? here's a circumstance for you, it's cold outside and you have no coat, do you wait for someone to give you a coat or do you obtain one yourself?

if you can obtain it yourself then great, if you have some sort of hardship that prevents you from overcoming it then you better hope someone can give a you a coat, but fuck you if you think you deserve the coat

quit making excuses you fucking pathetic weak useless examples of human filth, OVERCOME YOUR OWN CIRCUMSTANCE and if you can't then let's hope you don't pass on your genes

>>740874772

if you live in government housing, or are receiving welfare in forms that you didn't not pay into then you shouldn't be able to vote

the fucking conflict of interest on being able to vote for someone who is handing you money and shelter if fucking ridiculous

>>740874786
Pretty simple circumstance. Now throw in schizophrenia, ptsd and no family or support. Good luck with that, anon.


You're right. You shouldn't make excuses and expect things to be given to you. But some people genuinely can't support themselves. It's as simple as that. Calling an entire demographic "human filth" also proves you are overgeneralizing.

>>740874772
Lamo, that is what we have here in Germany. Free Housing for everyone + 450€ a month for doing nothing. We still have homeless people in the streets, they are just so fucking lazy and degenerate, that they are not even capable of going to the government agency and getting their free housing and money.

>>740875018
If you aren't serving in the military you shouldn't have a right to vote either then.

>>740875173
Then there should be no taxes then. Stop living in a dream world. The Word "should" is one of the stupidest. Things "should not be some way" things just are, because people with guns made it so

>>740875037
>Calling an entire demographic "human filth" also proves you are overgeneralizing.

can you explain why this is a bad thing? what does the human race have to lose by denigrating the pathetic? serves as an example of what not to become

>>740874786
>be me
>freezing cold outside
>nocoat.jpeg
>hur dur circumstances
>see man with a coat
>steal coat
>cop sees me
>spend time in jail cause public defenders suck
>released
>back on the street
>freezing
>criminal record
>stillnocoat.gif

>

>>740875351
You mean besides the fact that such simple thinking is why our world is so shitty? If you refuse to understand this demographic and change it, and choose the easy way out by condemning them and referring them as human filth, how can you possibly expect anybody to take that seriously?

>>740875173

it's funny how military people think they have contributed something, so they think they deserve more than people who actually apart of the economy and help fund their military

in the military unless you're in intelligence you're just a body spending money, you eat up the food, drink up the water and burn ammo

then you come home and suck on the va welfare titties

>>740875562
>change
with a bullet to the head?
because that is the only way how this would work

>>740875683
I rest my case.

>>740875040
Atleast your government is saving money. Some of them will die in the streets. Darwin would approve

>>740875562
>simple thinking is why our world is so shitty

how is our world shitty anon? is it because it's filled with people who for hundreds of years have been relieved of natural selection, where people like you spend all day feeling sorry for people who would rather feel nothing at all?

the "world" is doing just fine and in time these decadent individuals and those who latch onto them will fade out of existence in the ebb and flow of civilizations

you're the problem, you're the enabler in your "shitty world" because you refuse to look at failure for what it is and instead coddle and try to comfort it

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>>740875667
According to that logic all non-primary-good-producers are useless trash. The vendors are sucking of the farmers tittie without improving the product etc. The same can be said about a lot of jobs, especially service jobs which you don't directly profit from.
As long as your house doesn't burn you don't need the fireman, are you angry that you still do?

Don't get me wrong - i don't like the over inflated ego of military fags either, but they're providing a service.

>>740875761
Every few years it happens and everyone throws a hissy fit about it.
>WHO COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS? LET'S PROTEST THE TOWN MAJOR, HE MUST BE FIRED.

>>740875761

if there's trash in the streets, is it because the people don't want to pick it up or is it because the people expect someone to pick it up for them?

when the dead bodies begin to fill the streets, will good people return to clean it up? well there's only one way to find out

>>740871060
If someone prefers to sleep on the streets, it's okay with me, but if they harass people or park in front of businesses, they should be driven 50 miles out of town and dropped off.

>>740875976
What do you think this failure to evolve stems from. Wealth? Technology? Additude?

>>740873889
I like this guy

>>740876071

they mostly provide a service to elites who want something from another elite in another country

all wars could have been prevented, there was never any good versus evil, it has always been greed for resources and power

>>740876333
Well you've got a problem with politics then and not with the military.

>>740876273

comfort, lavish decadent comfort devoid of any struggle whatsoever

>>740871060
I feel sorry for them, but i think only few of them are able to get back into society.

Living on street is not valid choice of lifestyle - not in country, where you will freeze to death during winter. It is temporary solution and if you stick with it for longer than few months, you're fucked up.

Then again, if my parents would kick me out on streets, i'd probably ended like it, too. So...

>>740875351

The problem is that you are a dick. Its not manly to kick someone when they are down. Its not manly to make fun of the homeless.

>>740876507
>Then again, if my parents would kick me out on streets, i'd probably ended like it, too. So...

you're saying that you would not be able to make any shelter for yourself at all? can you explain what would stop you? so you're just going to freeze to death?

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>>740871060
Nonsensical question.
How do you feel about homefull people?

>>740871060
Feel kinda bad for the druggies
Feel bad for the mentally ill
no remorse for lazy fucks

>>740871200
THIS

>>740876071
Except he's totally right, most of the militaryfags are complete wastes. Conventional warfare is dead and counterinsurgency doesn't work. Aside from drones, intel, and the occasional squad-level skirmish (which is generally handled by SpecFor) the military consists of a (ludicrously funded) giant waving dick.

>>740876560

>Its not manly to kick someone when they are down. Its not manly to make fun of the homeless.

this is exactly what I'm talking about right here, weak minded soft little shit, not once did I kick the homeless person, not once did I "make fun" of them

they ARE homeless, so they are comparatively shit, this isn't not making fun of them, this is not kicking them when they're down

people like you, you're just fucking so into feeling sorry for them because you're not that far from being in their position, you look at them and you think, "wow it sucks for them, what if that was me"

this is weak minded thinking, STOP IT

>>740871060
worst people i ever met, they dont even want help, give them food instead of money and they spit at you... no one needs to be homeless here in germany, they choose to be outcasts... most of them just need to visit the goverment a few times per year so they can check up on them and they get free money and a flat... why do you think all these immigrants want to come here? shit is easy as fuck and these fucktards are not even able to do that, we have social workers running day and night around cities trying to help them and these fuckers dismiss them like they are the devil, i say euthanize them, the whole lot, especially antifa hobos, fucking punks are the worst

>>740872703
I think there is a lot of such people, who aren't accustomed to having job. That is the worst part. They haven't learn or realized necessity of it. It like some people failed to learn proper hygiene or manners or grammar. Often it is failure of their parents, who weren't able to give them enough time and care - but no-one will provide those to grown up man.

>>740876560
The worst part is, most of them are normal before they get on the streets. A month later they're insane because of all the trauma they've been through.

>>740877077
>because of all the trauma they've been through

what a fucking joke

>>740871586
even in countries with free healthcare you cant help them, they will fight you all the way

>>740876915
>I'm a winner, nothing bad could ever happen to me.
Ah, the mentality of those hit hardest by life's curve balls. Enjoy blowing your brains out when reality's dick slams into your ass at 9001Mph.

>>740871060
Where I live about 80% of homeless are assholes that abuse drugs or alcohol and feel other people owe them a ride. They leave an unbelievable amount of trash and destruction in their encampments.

People with schizophrenia ore something are a small percentage of the total. I say put the legit schizos in a shelter and tell the druggies and alcoholics to go fuck off and die.

>>740877077
Ment to reply to other guy. This mobile app is a pain

>>740871060
They have no fucking business owning pets. Stupid cunts.

>>740873821
yeah fuck that, buy them food and get ready to get attacked, many of them dont want anything else but money so they can fill up their habbit, i had this shit so much in my early 20s trying to help them

>>740876806
>military being useless
We could play the big "what if" game and take a look how many ackbars were killed by them. Hussein, the possibility to attack Ghaddafi, Assad, Isis, the Taliban and the list goes on and on. Those were the last 30 years and every single one had a massive boner for bombing the usa.
>squad-level skirmish (which is generally handled by SpecFor)
You fail to realize that no special unit could operate without the support from dumb grunts on the front lines. Even if the usa wanted to, it wouldn't be reasonable to make every soldier some super specops soldier - a lot of them will never see an enemy, many will carry heavy shit or operate artillery. Those aren't glorious jobs, but they're useful.

>>740871060
I only care if they're white

>>740877077
Most of the time when people see homeless behavior they interpret as mental illness, the bum in question is either high or drunk out of their gourd, not schizo or something.

>>740876638
they drink too much. keke

I'm the whitenight fag who keeps commenting. My job is to work with local government to house chronically homeless people. I'm also a lawyer. Should I make an AMA?
Not b8 m8

>>740876637
Dunno. I'd probably do something at the begining, but i have little to no will to live and succeed, so after few initial failures, i'd give up soon. I believe that is exact the condition of many homeless people - little to no ambition to improve themself and by extension their situation.

>>740877263

that's real funny because Ive been at the bottom, I was born into poverty, I've lived in shelters with my mom a couple of times in between her boyfriends and I can tell you the one thing that made me different from the rest of my family and the people around me is that I felt utterly disgusted by them all

I could "lose" everything and still not become homeless

>>740877782

you deserve what you get, if you chose to get nothing then you deserve nothing

>>740877484
>Hussein, Ghaddafi, Assad
Didn't attack the US.
>Isis, Taliban
Created by the US. Still didn't attack the US. Also, as previously stated, counterinsurgency doesn't work.
>take a look how many ackbars were killed by drones
ftfy (and my point still stands)

>>740877901

I agree, the entire middle east situation was created by superpowers for the expansion of israel

radical islam could have been easily removed from the playing field if the superpowers wanted it

>>740877802
surprised you haven't managed to cut yourself on all that edge

>>740877901
>Created by the US
narrate harder
>counterinsurgency doesn't work
narrate much harder
anon's examples are limited and not dispositive, as is anon's understanding and experience (though likely none)

>>740877155
Yes we can. It works in Sweden, much better than in USA.

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>>740878101

maybe you should try to feel sorry for me since that's all people like you seem to be able to do

maybe you can donate some money to me so I can get my life back together

>>740876677
double dubs chek'd

>>740878119

sweden's "free healthcare" will run out, you're on borrowed time

>>740877901
>>Hussein, Ghaddafi, Assad
True, but they wanted to, Hussein aperrently payed $ to support terrorism in the usa, not sure about Ghaddafi - i guess the reasoning for intervention was "humanitarian", just as Assad - they don't like dictators who kill their civilians. That's usa's job.
>>Isis, Taliban
> didn't attack the US
Either you're some conspiracy nut (in which case we can stop arguing) or i have some news for you.
>counterinsurgency doesn't work
Again the big what if game. Besides - afghanistan for instance is more or less stable now after being in full control of taliban. I'm not saying they're out of the woods yet, but it gets better.

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>>740877886
Sure, i know.

>>740878261

I have $100 left in my PayPal. You have one comment to convince me to give it you. Post your PayPal email

>>740878119
lmao fuck sweden

>>740878530

donate your blood and organs before you do it, you may yet die with honor

>>740871060
if i was homeless i would commit rob a bank if i get caught i have a bed to sleep if i get away i would have some money

>>740878568
i am not black
[email protected]

>>740878568

I will wipe my ass with that $100 bill, and then give it to a homeless person.

Now you get to feel good about "helping" a homeless person, I get a laugh and the homeless person can liquor up for a week.

>>740877802
>muh brave uphill battle and struggle in lyf

>>740878398
The reason it's running out is because the previous government sold out the hospitals to private corporations somewhere about 2008, and it's been shit ever since. Stop talking about things you know nothing abou-
>/b/
Right, nevermind

>>740878877

are you sure it's got nothing to do with the simple fact that the number of people requiring healthcare are exceeding the amount of funds available while the number of tax payers decreases?

sure it's got nothing to do with a rather sudden influx of millions of people into your country?

>>740871383
I wouldn't say 95% of homeless people are just lazy, I'd say maybe 30% tops. Many of them just need a lot of help and support to break out of the shitty lives they have.

In the city you do sometimes see perfectly healthy, young, well groomed hipsters or clearly middle class college students begging for change.

>>740874334
>implying your burbs isn't getting gentrified
top kek. open your eyes fool,
>hurr durr poors ands muds
you're worth less to the elites than they are, they at least show susceptibility to brainwashing.

>>740878822

it might seem like a battle for weak people

I think it's good people go out of their way to be homeless because if we didnt have homeless people who would we give money to, to feel good about helping the needy

>>740879174
It has been shit since 2010. Collapsed around then. Stop pretending to know stuff.

>>740879309
Protip: no one cares.

>>740879361

>implying the people who feel sorry actually "give"

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>>740878114
>implying the US didn't arm/fund Al-Qaeda during the Soviet-Afghan war
>implying this didn't bite the US in the ass during the Gulf War
>implying ISIS isn't a direct result of the"War on Terror"
>implying the US isn't currently arming ISIS in Yemen
>implying the "War on Terror" was a success (and won in 2003 to boot)
>implying the counterinsurgency in Vietnam was a success

>>740878404
>implying ISIS (which formed post 9/11) attacked the US
>implying Taliban = Al-Qaeda
>implying ISIS = Al-Qaeda
>implying attacking US troops in your country is attacking the US
>it's the job of the US to act as a global police force

They should like get jobs to not be homeless. Also why do they try to keep pets like normal people with homes?

>>740873821
Greentext some? Im interested

>>740879483

so if it's shit since 2010, why are you bragging about it?

isn't it wonderful how something is great until it's not?

buy them some fidget spinners

>>740879625
>Also why do they try to keep pets like normal people with homes?
They enjoy calling there dogs "Pajeet" and watching them shit in the street

>>740879274
>implying your burbs isn't getting gentrified
they aren't. they're being flooded with untermensch and we are taking their place in the city. if anything it's more equivalent to block busting methodology.
>flood area with shitskins and degenerates
>property values fall
>encourage more shitskins and degenerates to populate the area
>exploit falling property values with available capitol
>convince society you're doing some kind of positive service in doing so

>you're worth less to the elites than they are, they at least show susceptibility to brainwashing.
duh. thanks for your insight cletus.
what do you think the immigration act of 1965 was all about?

the only trick to all of this is to attain enough of a critical mass of pissed off and sold out whites to take the country back. makes you wonder if trump was a safety valve.

in any case, your post has almost nothing to do with the homeless being shit.

>>740879501
>protip
protip:
kys

>>740879667
First, I'm not >>740878119
Second, I'm not bragging, I'm explaining why you're retarded. It was good when it was "free", now it's going to complete shitass.
Third, I like this guy >>740879802

>>740879971
You were poor as a child stfu.

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>>740879975

are you saying that a socialist program is failing when you say "going to complete shitass"?

Most of the "homeless" where I live are shoplifting meth heads and pill junkies. You could also say the majority of them coma across as having some sort of mental illness. The city just announced a few weeks ago that it is not enforcing pan handler laws so their numbers have exploded. If they want help, it is easily obtained. The vast majority don't want help.

>>740871586
i've stockpiled my anti-psychosis meds for when i'm off my parents insurance and wont be able to afford it. Sometimes i day dream about giving it to homeless people and watching my community flurious and everyone frolicing through feilds of flowers with butterflies, community bbqs everyone smiling happy

>>740879606
>implying there was not a single attack inside the usa where people identified themselves as supporters of isis
>implying taliban wasn't essentially a branch of al-quaida
>implying isis didn't mostly emerge from taliban remains and scattered ackbars from different conflicts
They're all somewhat connected in their ideology. (Even though currently ISIS fucks up the taliban for reasons.)
>>implying attacking US troops in your country is attacking the US
Wasn't implying that, i'm just aware of the regular news how some terrorist plot was stopped again and that our policeforce / intelligence / military are doing a good job in keeping us safe. (Not even american btw.)
>>it's the job of the US to act as a global police force
That's arguable, but it's not like anyone force you to do that. Take a look at history and find that the usa often poked it's nose where it didn't belong, it's actually kind of intresting how few terrorist threats you get nowadays.

>>740879897
>take the country back
just what the shit are you going on about

>>740880037
joke's on you! I"M STILL POOR HAHAHAHAHAHA shit

>>740880073
I'm saying that you need to get your face out of that bag of glue and that you should go buy some rope

>>740880244
Sheeeiiiit

>>740880147
>give random people a few days supply of some random medication
>that will fix everything

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>>740880258
>buy some rope

oh so you're some kind of capitalist now?

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>>740880467
if some of them die because of overdose that'd improve the neighborhood, non?

>>740871060
I feel sorry for doggo.

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As selfish as it sounds, you cant help somebody that doesn't want help. Also there are a lot of hipster wanna be homeless, for example
>last summer me and buddy take a vaction to Denver
> spent 2 days and nights in downtown.
> first day out shopping around high as fuck
> get approached by a 20-23 year old kid
> wearing black american eagle shirt, cargo shorts and mandals
> " Hey man my name is yadada I've been travelling the US and I just lost my wallet the other day, I have no money to go back home or for food, don't even have an ID to get on plane"
> mfw im not giving this nigger money
> get an idea, had a taco bell giftcard that had about 0.22 cents left on it
> yo I'm kinda tight on cash but ill help you out with some food, here take this gift card
> it has around 12-13$ on it go get some lunch
> mfw he went and ordered a bunch of food and only had a giftcard worth 23 cents

>>740871060
If they are crazy, I feel sorry. Otherwise, they make me angry.

>>740880572
I fucking hate that I love you man. Good show, good show.

>>740880467

well until obamacare is repealed little johnny here can be on his parent's insurance until he's almost 30yo

thanks obama

I fuckin am homeless. On day 2.

>>740880974
>day 2
You're not homeless, you're just after-partying

In my town we've got professional homeless out every day, and travellers on their way up to San Francisco/ Santa Cruz. The sit and beg off the tourists and scream at themselves in the street. The only ones I feel bad for are the pets they keep to make money off of. That is a fucked up way to treat an animal.

Most are either under 30 or over 55.

The oldies should get warehoused somewhere, but the young ones should be sent to labor camps until they get off heroin and learn a trade like construction or plumbing. They are some worthless shits, let me tell you.

>>740881335

sounds expensive, bullets are cheaper

>>740880974
actually homeless, as in sleeping on the street? or just couch surfing with friends?

Fucking sick and tired of them, they need to be fucking dealt with, maybe put their asses to work the fucking fields or something, make them earn their keep.

>>740880624

Nice

>>740881425
I'm with you... but liberals are a bit too squeamish here in commiefornia.

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>>740881654

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>>740880624

you fucking monster

>>740881654

convince them that the homeless are trump supporters

The over 45 homeless who have mental health, drug, physical problems are very difficult to help.
Also the "argument" of "why can't they just get a job" is ignorant. If you were an employer, would you hire them? I'm sure it happens 5% of the time. No, you can't just give them more money, as many would blow it on their addiction, or would not be able to handle it, or be taken advantage of/have it stolen. More 24/7 staff monitored motel-style shelters, with a mini-fridge microwave might work. All money controlled. Rehabilitation to get well. They don't follow the strict rules, then their out. No, two, three strikes.
Right, with the current administration in D.C., less money allocated. Yeah, there is that "let em die" apathetic mentality on both sides. Saw that movie, 'Time out of mind' not too long ago. Eh.

>>740882013
>All money controlled

haha yea right, money goes to crooks and homeless remain in the shitter

the best way to attack homelessness is to try to convince people to pick themselves up, if they can't or won't then that's their fate - the only money that should be spent on the homeless is corpse removal, fucking thieves in a way are better than the homeless, at least they get off their asses long enough to steal and at least find a place to sleep/live

>>740881920
I bet they don't even recycle! And they smoke cigarettes!

>>740871060
Just gave a guy asking for change half of my sandwich while on lunch. We're all gonna make it.

completely depends on how they were made homeless

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>>740882403

is that code word for he sucked your dick for $5?

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>>740877802
>mfw you were probably a crack baby.
>mfw you were conceived in a car for fiddy bucks

>>740882732
he gave em the ole half sammie.

>>740871060
I don't

>>740873821
Share something faggot

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>>740879309
>cringe

>>740871060
Don't mean to sound like an asshole because I really feel for them, but if an illegal immigrant can get a job why can't they?

It sucks to be them, but I won't give them money because I never know what they'll use it for. I usually grab a couple cold bottles of water and/or some fruit to keep in my car to hand out to people though.

>>740882909

weed and cigarette baby, dad married mom but left soon after birth, mom turned into a low level feminist, remember repeating phrases she would say like "male chauvinist pig" about men that treated her wrong

teenage pregnancy ftw, the ultimate red pill for me

>>740882403
a bit back a young woman (early 20s) was sitting panhandling in the street and I offered her cash to pose for some nude pictures for me. She accepted too!

>>740876915
Big words from a fat guy in his parents basement

>>740883335
more details

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>>740883357

it's a good thing you're not talking about me then

>>740883357
spoken like a guy whose never had a fat guy sit on him before.

>>740883335

that wasn't a homeless person, that was just a whore with no direction

>>740874772

Reintroduce mental hospitals. Sure, money. Every problem costs money.

>>740883701

we do have mental hospitals, they just don't include homeless people

medical professionals can tell when a person has a mental disorder and when they are just lazy fucking druggies

>>740871060
I hand out coins from time to time
I dont treat them like shit
I've held doors for them and stuff
Or let them cross first when I'm driving

Guys it's pretty common in society to have outcasts. We can jail them. We can kill them.
We can shame them. No matter what homelessness and mental illness will continue to be a problem. At this point it's about minimizing their negative impact on society. It's not gunna be perfect, but pretty much anything is better than letting them just shit in the street

>>740883870

you could offer them a job, mow your lawn, wash your car, pay them a tip to open doors for people

no fuck that, it will eat into their panhandling hours

>>740873547
Are you talking about Portland? You have to be.

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>>740883891

well, there's always the human centipede...

Hire them to be in your own porno movies

>>740871060
I wanna help 'em but I have barely enough money for myself.

>>740871060
>How do you feel about homeless people?
I'm technically homeless and I fucking hate myself. Does that count?

>>740884011
>you could offer them a job, mow your lawn,...
Offering illegal jobs? Shame on you, Anon!

>>740883859

I'm only referring to the legitimately mentally ill.
Many would rather stay homeless, then be "controlled/medicated". Also, state hospitals now a days are mostly for forensic cases. Those convicted of crimes, considered not criminally responsible. Private hospitals keep them for 5-7 days.

I live in a wealthy liberal town, that has made it 100% legal for people to panhandle in the downtown area. There is literally a bum every couple hundred yards. All of the bums are respectfull, and make a shit load of money from tourists. City has one of the lowest crime rates in the US. What is /b/ opinion of this? I'm pretty neutral. Could go either way

>>740884885

it's not sustainable

>>740885058
Why. Honestly the more I think about it, the worse it sounds

>>740871060
scum of the fucking earth, right up there next to rapists, drug dealers and religious zealots.

The existence of the homeless is an indictment of my government's failure. It should be the job of the private sector to provide adequate incentive to lure people out of subsistence living and participate in the labor market, and it should be the role of the government to provide a safety network to ensure that those who opt out of the market have the ability to maintain a level of subsistence living. The market is failing to offer legitimate employment opportunities, and the government is failing to offer basic human services commensurate with a commonly-accepted 0-point standard of living, such as access to natural resources. If there are homeless, then everyone is failing.

>>740885561
This.

>>740885561

Not to "write off" the homeless. But I like the idea of preventing a problem in the first place. Why do people become homeless? How to prevent it?

>>740885854
Because they are stupid, take loans, don't pay debt, and subsequently got evicted for not paying rent.

At least that's the case of one of my colleagues, who now lives in charity-run apartment house. He was irresponsible and stupid. Still is, but he will, hopefully, get out of the situation.

>>740885854
>How to prevent it?
Stop immigration, more housing for yti

>>740871060
>How do you feel about homeless people?
I luv handing out cigs to them
Thoughtful and nice: +10xp
Am I a good person yet?

>>740885392

eventually a political group will use the homeless as a tool to gain power, this will spark resentment, the homeless under the false song of said political group will demand more and the resentment will increase and crime will rise

>>740884146
further north. it might be fashionable to be a degenerate down there but the worst is yet to come, oregon. you have my pity.

>>740871060
Very sad. Every person on this planet should have the right to have a roof above their head.

>>740871060
I feel curious about what college or university degree he might have.

for the most part I don't care, but some have interesting shit going on

Homelessness itself is very ambivalent to me. I see it as a socioeconomic status, rather than a plight.
Those who seek better footing will (more likely than not) find it.

>>740873486
Having worked as a flyer distributor in Vegas and seeing communities gutted out from the housing crisis, I completely agree with your first sentence.
Your second sentence is a bit Soylent Green for my taste.

>>740871060
if theyre trying good for them if they arent, fuck them, here in san antonio buses are cheap and go all over and theres places that will get you a job everyday in the morning but its first come first serve so just get there early and you get $50 a day for 8hrs , they will even drive you there to the job, when i first moved here i had no job so i did it till i got one in a few weeks, its labor work and tough and there were regulars that prob got themselves in trouble but were there everyday.

Yet i fucking see shitty fucking bums all over on corners, they literally form a group and get on all corners with their fake messages and pull their money and they do it from morning to night everyday , some talk just fine and seem totally normal so i can only assume theyre just lazy sacks of scum but they do it all day in 100+ degree weather so that takes some effort i guess, i dont get it.

>>740884885
word spreads. it will be exploited unless the bums police themselves, at which point it will be exploited to political ends.

>>740871060
I don't mind the real homeless people, and just like anyone else as long as they are not committing crimes. What bothers me is they have no place to go, and only a few communities have places set up for them to camp, or whatever. People can complain all they want, but until states and municipalities start to use the budgets properly it is going to be a an issue.

That means temporary shelter/housing, mental health treatment, and some kind of skills/job training. There will always be the very few that will always be lost, but most could at least start to sustain themselves. Most of these people do not have family or anything like that to count on, even what family they may have is usually part of the reason they may have gotten off track.


If you have a lot of homeless people in your area there is a good chance it is from one of the following reasons.

The offices to access the resources they need are in your area. This would be a lot of state capitals and county seats, but I am sure their are other regional locations. When people end up homeless at first they get to these offices sooner or latter. Their is almost never enough shelter room so people end up on the streets until they get a spot.

Your area has nice weather. Someone mention San Diego, nice weather with liberal social policies, if I were to end up homeless for the long term, I might head to a place like that.

Your state has a very liberal social policy. Someone mentioned Seattle, from all I have read the reason a lot of people go there is because of the ease in getting by while being destitute.

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>>740885561
such fucking nonsense. you opt to live outside the bounds it is your decision and a signifier of a healthy society that you are not forcibly committed and re-indoctrinated or otherwise destroyed for doing so.
die you authoritarian rat.

>>740892054
What I hate is the people who beg and are not homeless, destitute, many times have a job and are doing it because they know they can get extra money that way. I Knew a guy who had a business near a state road. People would park their cars in his lot, nice ones, get some coffee and go around the corner to panhandle. In chatting with them he would learn how they had condos and such. One of the few times I would be happy to look the other way if a cop beat someone down.

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depends on the homeless person, people in general are just fucking awful. beggars are annoying, homeless ppl are fine, i just avoid making eye contact with them and put on a mean mug and they usually leave me alone. but dont get me started on nigger hustlers, fucking hate hustlers and i love screaming in their face like a crazy person

>>740874786
This is what intentionally missing the point looks like.

>>740875351
I remember being 14. Thanks for the nostalgia trip.

>>740875976
Do you really think you and your kin let alone any sizeable amount of humans would exist without civilization circumventing natural selection?

>>740876560
Thanks for coming around here. You make the place better.

>>740876915
I have several years of expenses saved and can get a job in any town within two weeks. I'm fine and in no danger of involuntary homelessness. Tell me more about what I think, buddy. I'm curious. I bet you're a wage pleb who, like most, are less than six months away from homelessness if they don't please their bosses.

>>740877124
If homelessness is so simple, why not try it for a few years? Rake in the dough, invest, and retire within five years. Or maybe you won't because camping stresses you out as it keeps you from your couch and anime.

>>740886443
Screw you, I don't know how much of that was the case in the past, but since about 2007 it is just not so for a lot of people. Something no likes to report or talk about, even the alt media, is there have been a lot of people let go and not able to find work for a year to three year stints. Even with the extended UI it has not kept many from ending up in landlord tenant court.

Add to that the insane made up policies and hiring practices of excluding people who were unemployed for those times and may have credit issues due to that fact, plus an illegally flooded labor market due to visas being issued in direct contradiction of the laws administering the process. Considering these things, is any wonder people are starting to move nationalist, alt-right, or even full blown Nazi?

I would be real interested to see a political movement with a militant arm develop, that would be willing to hold public officials and corporate hierarchy accountable, even personally, if they do not start following the rules put into place by democratic process.

>>740877155
I betcha there would be more homeless without it though. Only the resilient meant-to-be bums remain. I agree about the stubborn ones though.

>>740894205
In my country, there is currently great demand for labor force and every bigger company is hiring. It might be different where you are.

>>740877270
I agree that there's some bastard homeless. And I agree it's probably a majority that are fuck heads, but I've met some cool ones. I never knew they existed in my town but I realized it was just confirmation bias. It's hard to notice the ones without signs who don't trash every fucking underpass and get wasted next to bars.

>>740871060
feel bad for them. we live in a fucked up world where a small % fucks over the rest of the world. capitalsim doesnt work.

>>740877408
Animals love it outside and get stoked on trash for dinner. Hell, my dog eats garbage anytime he gets the chance even though I buy him food.

>>740877429
Animals love it outside and get stoked on trash for dinner. Hell, my dog eats garbage anytime he gets the chance even though I buy him food.

>>740877802
I'm from a similar situation, but what would you do if you lost everything? We can't bootsrap a legal home into existence.

we should have better social welfare which taxes pay for to help them

>>740894611
What country?

>>740871060
>How do you feel about homeless people?

There are two types of people on the streets.

Legitimately homeless people, who deserve our compassion and our help.

Street zombies. These folks don't want to do anything but take drugs and commit crimes. They belong in jail and not on the streets.

I'm a big believer in drug and alcohol rehab. I'd love to see all addicts living on the streets freed from their bondage.

>>740895152
Just stop sending aid to 3rd world countries, should cover it.

>>740871060
I deal with them all the time. There are a few that are good folks. Some have genuine mental problems and some left abusive situations at any cost. However the vast majority are the absolutely the worst of society. Its a conscious decision for them because they are selfish and refuse any responsibility. They don't want to work, pay rent or do any of the things people do to not be homeless.

Most people see homeless people and project themselves onto them. For most people, they would have to have suffered catastrophe after another to be in that situation. So they assume that is what has happened to every homeless person.

This is how you get these feel-gooders going on about feeding the homeless and so on. They have never actually talked to homeless people in an honest way. But lots of these homeless are very good at manipulating and making up a cover story.

In short, except for a few, homeless should not be helped.

>>740895152
Yes. More taxes please. I thoroughly enjoy getting taxed %37 on my wages and then taxed %12 when I go to make purchase with that money anywhere in the province I live. Go fuck yourself dipshit. The only people that want more taxes are social leaches and retards. Both of which should be euthanized

>>740878530
There's plenty of lifestyles that are suited to people with depression, low ambition, etc. I live on $4-5000 a year with an apartment, internet, etc without gov assistance. I save 50+% of my paycheck so I only need to work half the year or every other year if a job pays well. Try to stick with ones that pay well and make hay while the sun shines. I wish I could shake your hand.

>>740895198
Czech republic. Our central bank did some interventions with purpose of cheapening our workforce relative to neighbouring countries, so there is currently lot of jobs available.

>>740879268
I know a few who are perfectly capable humans who work often and don't pollute town with filth and noise. Those are the ones that tend to travel often though, so you don't know em for long.

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>>740871383

SDfag for most of my life.... ironically live in Seattle now lol. I sell beer, don't even get me started on the fucking bums. Bud Ice is king down town. When I was in SD it was worse. The ones In La Jolla make so much panhandling so much they live in motels. I used to work at that subway In La Jolla Shores. They make $300+ a day down there. I used to smoke weed with them and hook up subs. Good people. Helped me track down the nigger that broke into my car.

But fuck those OB urchins. I love punk and crust as much as anyone but grow the fuck up and get a job.

>>740879625
When me and my dog homed up he got antsy and stressed. Fat too. I have to take him out for walks just to simulate the lifestyle he took for granted. We would keep them with us to wake us up in case someone was approaching our tent. We never camped in town though, so it was safe anyway. He still like eating trash food.

some people are bums for a reason. some don't ask for the help.

>>740882320
Tell them that they are voluntarily homeless in an effort to save some cash to bootstrap a business in finance or something.

>>740883285
I feel you but I have a theory. It takes an amount of forethought, planning, saving, and common sense to illegally immigrate to a wealthy country that might be hostile toward you. It's pretty easy to be born to alcoholic parent or into an unsound body/mind.

>>740871060
Don't care. Go get a job, u fucking lazy bastard

>>740883891
I do wonder what would happen if it was solved though. There would be no liquid supply of human labor in times where the job market is more in favor of workers. Unions would inflate as well since there would be no scab labor or sick folks on the street to use as an example.

>>740897146
actually they have a job. it's called annoy people like((you))

>>740884011
I too hate when gifts are voluntarily given and received by two or more people I've never met. It takes a lot out of me to know that someone else has it easier and doesn't feel shame because of it. Too bad unrelated parties will always be making decisions without my approval. Guess I better head back to my minimum wage job.

>>740871383
Soylent Green is always an option...

>>740884631
When I homed up, it didn't feel much better. I can afford more booze. Still the same.

Society has failed them.

But mostly I just ignore them because when you make eye contact they always got something they want to talk about.

Homeless people can talk for days. Get some of these fucker a radio show to get them off the street.

>>740871060
well tbh one of them is my Dad, and he went insane cuz Denver PD seriously overstepped there boundaries and beat the shit out of him til he lost half his IQ and forever after couldn't be bothered to get a job that required him to sign anything.
>inb4 your Dad deserved it
They tried to charge my Dad with battery and assault of multiple officers, and even with his poor-man lawyer my Dad beat the case by a landslide, they had clearly done more damage to him, and the female officer that claimed he had assaulted her backtracked her claim in court. It was a fucking shit show.
Kinda makes me hate the police, and I never thought I would be that type I even have a friend who is an officer but it is what it is.

>>740897146
Get an education, you massive fucking retard.

They are disgusting wastes of resources. I think that instead of coddling hem and trying to give them second chances we should just kill them. Pretty much all of them are in that position because of substance abuse and if we try and get them back into society they will just make the same mistakes again.

>>740897560
all this and you probably have no hatred for corporate CEOs who do exactly this on a massive scale to hunreds of thousands of people do you?

usually offer to buy some food. when they take the food its cool just stay up man when they ask for money instead they can go fuck themselves.

>>740898043
You are a disgusting example of how much the education system has failed us all.

Some are all right but most seem to have a mental illness, at least from my encounters with them.

>>740880624
Things that didn't happen.

>>740898096
The difference is that their actions effect everyone around them. We're all each other's circumstances, anon. Panhandling doesn't negatively effect anyone but perhaps those being duped for small change and those spending it on fueling self-destructive habits. Oh and the ninnies who worry about their town's image. It's funny that people aren't more upset about ugly billboards now that I think of it.

>>740871060
Feel fucking bad for them.

My local and central governments are enacting housing policy and aid policy which basically pushes people onto the street then cunningly manages to de-register them from homeless lists so they are basically fucked unless they can get in the 1 YMCA in the city.

Always sit and chat if I have time, if not donate food/money.