Should men be allowed to hit back? Or are women so weak that

If a woman hit me I'd lay them out flat and show that cunt who's in charge

>being so weak you need to hit back.

>>740622000
Your trips are strong but your ideas are weak. If anybody hits you, hit back. Weak cunt.

A men should for Shure be allowed to hit back has hard as he wants, if the situation allows he should mostly not do it with full force tho
Just holding the arms of an aggressive women to show her she can't do anything is far more fun anyway

>>740622090
Why would I seek to harm someone when they brought no harm to me?

>>740622261
If you're going to pretend that you are impervious to physical harm, that's cool, I guess. Have fun with your complex, anon.

>>740621833
I would hit a women in any situation where I would hit a man, and feel no remorse.

>>740621961
Said the obvious 12 year old.

>>740621833
A man won't get away with hitting a bigger stronger person. Why should a woman get away with it. Not fucking with physical superiors is a basic survival instinct. People have been brainwashed into thinking that women are an exception to that. They aren't.

>>740622261
A guy puts a gun to your head and pulls the trigger, the gun misfires and the round doesn't go off.

But it's alright because he did you no harm, right?

You hit back but in places that it will not show like a hard jab to her belly.

>>740622325
>impervious to physical harm

I did not say that. Do you mean to tell me that a woman of all things can harm you physically?

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>>740621961
>>740622090
>>740622228
>>740622325
>>740622358
>>740622400
>>740622472
>itt weak men who can't just hold a woman off with their arms

>>740622531
If she hits the right spots, which she most likely won't, or if she has a knife or club
Yes

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if a 150lb man hits a 400lb man can the big guy hit back?

>>740622531
I'm not the original guy, but I am willing to say that there are women stronger than me, and there are women stronger than the average man. Having a vagina doesn't make you weak, by nature. It simply makes you more likely to be weak.

>>740621833
A man should be able to hit a women whenever he wants

Legally? Yes
Morally? Nah

>>740621833
What world are you living in that doesn't allow you to defend yourself?

>>740622588
>just holding her arms
>can't just hold her arms
Are you retarded?

>>740621833
I'm a big guy. I don't hit unless my life's in danger.

That being said, one time my gf at the time came at me with some shank because she thought I cheated. I leveled her and have felt bad since. Heat of the moment situation but Jesus.

>>740622531
But why should she be spared? Don't fuck with people who are bigger than you. It's that simple. Boys learn that at a very young age. Girls don't ever seem to learn the same lesson. If you hit me, I will make you regret it. I don't care what your crotch looks like.

>>740621833
Allowed to defend themselves? Duh. That's like saying a 7 foot man shouldn't be able to hit a manlet. Take responsibility for your actions.

If a woman is acting in a manner that you would flatten a man for, then hit a bitch. Equality.

>>740622735
>5'7 manlet detected

>>740621833
If a woman hits a man, shes signing a theoretical contract that puts whoever shes hitting, and herself on a level playing ground for the fight. If you wana fight like a man with a man, you gonna get hit by a man, like a man.
Equal rights means equal everything bitch

That which stands firm is broken by the storm. That which bends in the wind will survive. What good does it to to strike? When violence is visited upon you, what good is served by creating more disharmony?

If I was to strike a man, who is both my physical subordinate, as well as the aggressor, there would be nothing wrong with that, right? Now, imagine we have the same man, except he was born with, and still has, both breasts and a vagina. Why is my action now wrong? What if the women is my physical superior, but still the aggressor? I fail to see any wrongdoing on my part. Having a vagina does not make you special.

>>740622872
Did you even read my post?
>im 1,97m

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>>740622947
you just repeated me and called me retarded, im sorry you cant hold off women due to your bad genes

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>>740621833
If a female ever hits me, I'll hit that bitch back. Keep your motherfucking hands to yourself, whether you have a vagina or not.

If females can go to war, fight in sports, and do everything that a man can do.

Then females can certainly get knocked the fuck out if they hit a man.

> One time my girlfriend throw her cellphone at me, and it smoked me in the hand.
> Got up, picked the bitch up, slammed her to the ground, and choked her until she almost passed out
> Only thing that stopped me from murdering the cunt was the thought of prison.

>>740622900
Cuck

>>740623092
I repeated me and than I repeated you overweight burger

>>740621833
Gender doesnt matter, if you have to defend yourself go for it. Key word being defend. Women just go ky if you think you can hit a man but he cant hit you.

>>740623097
Whew lad. You sound like a real winner.

>>740622690
This

>>740621833
Most men can easily restrain a women and don't have to 'fight back' to defend themselves. They are and should be allowed to fight back legally, but lets be honest, its no better than hitting a child

>>740623397
If I was to strike a man, who is both my physical subordinate, as well as the aggressor, there would be nothing wrong with that, right? Now, imagine we have the same man, except he was born with, and still has, both breasts and a vagina. Why is my action now wrong? What if the women is my physical superior, but still the aggressor? I fail to see any wrongdoing on my part. Having a vagina does not make you special.

>>740622900
Virgin confirmed

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>>740623330
You sound like a cuck who was brainwashed by their parents into not defending yourself from being hit by a woman.

My guess is that your grandfather use to beat your grandmothers ass when she got an attitude. Your parents watched this happen on multiple occasion. Now no one likes seeing their mother get beat up, so they told you hitting woman at ANY time is wrong.

You've been cucked.

If somebody were to strike you, even as the aggressor, you should allow them to do so - there is no call to deliver harm upon another. We are called to give the very shirts off our backs to those in need - why should our bodies be any different?

>>740623646
Reference rational arguments and not religious ones, if they will be callously ignored.

>>740623429
>If I was to strike a man, who is both my physical subordinate, as well as the aggressor, there would be nothing wrong with that, right?

What? Of course it would be!! Why the fuck would you wail on a little guy?

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>>740621833
Let me ask you this OP.

If a female were to attempt to rob you on the street would you fight back? Yes.

Why not fight back if a woman tries to assault you?

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>>740623646
>Being a faggot

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE

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Most people will say it's alright out of this sense of wanting to present themselves as being all for equality.
The moment you hit a woman though, everyone you've ever known turns into a white knight. Even if she hit you first, they'll turn on you.
The only time you could get away with using force, would be if she had a weapon.

>>740623739
Because, he stuck me first? He was in full control of his actions. He still decided to go out of his way to put me at risk of physical harm. I don't care that he's weaker than me. He still has every ability to harm me, if I do nothing. As well, once he's decided he wants to harm me, what responsibility do I have for his safety? Why would I just, "hold his arms back"? I will meet him, like with like, and have absolutely no trouble sleeping afterward.

>>740623934
I think you're projecting

My friends aren't normie faggots that are white-knight orbiters

>>740623429
Lets be realistic here, given the difference in strength between the average man and women, unarmed a women isn't actually a threat and your actions arent self defense but retribution

>>740623646
It makes sense from a rational perspective, but people aren't rational.
Remember that in ANY conflict between a man and a woman, people will almost always tend to side more with the woman.

>people saying they have to defend themselves

Do you really believe you are in any danger if you get slapped once? If you want to retaliate out of anger go ahead but don't pretend you are justly protecting yourself.

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>>740624057
She violated the NAP

I will McNuke her ass out of existence

>>740624057
My contention is that it doesn't matter that they're weaker than me. I would be fully justified in responding to a man of similar stature to this hypothetical women. That doesn't change because we give him a vagina.

>>740624013
No one said do nothing. Defend yourself and take every appropriate action to ensure your safety. But unless you are like a really tiny guy or have something else wrong with you, you dont need to hit someone to do so. That is something we do to make ourselves feel better

>>740623729
Alright, fine. Rationally, the position that best serves humanity as a whole is one that views humanity as a whole - seven billion self absorbed pieces with selfish goals work together with much less success than a unified team striving towards a better future.
So, for the good of humanity as a whole, it is optimal to reduce the total accumulated injuries - if one party is damaged or injured, corrective action should be taken to ensure lack of further damage. However, retaliatory damage to a different part of the grand design only increases the destruction and necessary repairs.

>>740622745
>oh fuck I'm about to get air holed
>awww I feel bad cause it's a woman
In prison
>awww fuck I'm about to get air holed
>heh, I don't even feel bad

>>740623524
Nice projection there anon.

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>>740621833
Embrace the truly enlightened way. A real man does not hit a woman no matter what. A real man forgives and loves. A real man is not a savage and sets moral guidelines to separate himself from the niggers and jews and other animals.

>>740624227
>responding to a man of similar stature to this hypothetical women
Basically a child. You would hit a child?

Women are all for equality until it comes to a fight.
If they want to be treated the same as a man, then I'll punch them when I'd punch a man

>>740621833
I'd stay as far away from women like that as possible... But if necessary, YES.

>>740624373
a.k.a cuck

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>>740624263
>retaliatory damage to a different part of the grand design only increases the destruction and necessary repairs.

GOOD

DEATH AND DESTRUCTION FOR ALL

>>740624263
There is no objective good. We each own ourselves, and have a primary responsibility to ourselves. Value is subjective, and I don't care to support the common values most people seek to fulfill. I live for myself, I refuse to become a slave to whole, the many or the group. My body is mine, and I will use it as I see fit, not as anyone else thinks I should.

>>740622090

I had a crazy female room hit me. She was living somewhere else 12 hours later.

>>740624155
aye

>>740624541
This

The collective is always manipulated and abused, the individual is always free.

>>740622900
>I've never been in a physical confrontation in my life because I'm too much of a pussy bitch to stand up for myself
Fixed

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>>740622423

You know I don't think being a man is for you.

>>740624155
Gotta say defence otherwise the coppers will attempt to McArrest my ass

>>740624382
That, sir, is a faulty analogy fallacy. A better comparison? A child with the mental capabilities of an average adult? Yes, I strike that child, not your average child. Your average child isn't as responsible for their action as is an adult.

>>740621833
Equal rights
Equal lefts

>>740624155
>get slapped once
Way to move those goal posts anon

>>740624721
That wouldn't be self defense. It would be retribution. Why stop at hitting them once then? Why not put him in the hospital then?

When you are actually at risk then you should put up a fight and if you have to, break bones and shit to disable your opponent, or kill them if they pose a danger to your life. A proportionate response. Hitting a woman or a weaker man isn't the proportionate response.

>>740624620
Thank you. A respectable person in the midst of fools, who recycle and regurgitate emotional redirect of, "the greater good", and other collectivist nonsense. Individuals do not belong to society, individuals belong to themselves.

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>>740624541
Oh nice, another manifestation of the "le morals are subjective hehe so I can be a shitty person if I want!" Listen bud, I got bad news for you. There are different moral systems but they commonly agree on most things, in your case morals are not subjective, you are just immoral. Maybe you did not take an ethics class in college so you would not not understand this. Now begone edgy egoist.

>>740624122
No
From a rational perspective it makes no sense at all
Get yourself killed faggot

>>740624457
Not at all. You only forgive and love if they change their behavior. If they choose not to then leave them. It's their problem.

>>740625051
I would stop at whatever point I found I needed to in order to protect myself. If I went to far, that should be up to a court, if the other person decides they think I went to far.

>>740625125
No, I'm not an egoist. I, just, own myself, and do not belong to society. I happen to quite like Kantian morality, in a lot of ways, not all.

>>740625299
"I do not belong to society" gtfo fucking fedora wearing edgelord

>>740625051
Who stops at one hit? Even the law(US) says that the affirmative defense of self protection extends until the threat is ended. If that person has the ability to and is continuing to pose a clear and imminent threat of bodily harm, you are fully within your right to continue to defend yourself until the threat ends.

If a female comes up to me and rains blows down and I strike her back it's self defense. If she continues to come at me I can legally still strike back. If she starts to retreat or becomes otherwise incapacitated and then I strike her, I'm now the primary aggressor and criminally liable.

Females can hurt and even kill males. It happens all the fucking time. I ain't giving nobody the chance to get close regardless of what chromosomes they have.

>>740624155
Get slapped once, slap a bitch back

>>740625299
You already went too far when you hit a woman or a woman sized man, or anyone who physically poses no threat to you but you hit to show them what a big man you are

>>740622000
>being so unstable you have to resort to violence

>>740625028
Seeing as how 90% of the time a woman strikes a man it is a slap I would say that the goal posts are right where they belong.

>>740625475
>>740625499
I see now that 3:00 is the cut off point for rational arguments on /b/, if they are ever here. You own yourself, you own no one else, and no one else owns you. Signing off, space robots.

>>740623097
For throwing her phone at you? You're a fucking psychopath, get help. I'd understand throwing it back or slapping her but that's a douchey overreaction

>>740624155
>not being allowed to defend your honor
Kek

ITT:

Virgins and edge lords who don't realize grabbing or restraining anyone in most of the first world is still illegal without the need to defend oneself.

Hitting back = restraining in most jurisdictions.

>>740625628
When exactly was the last time you even interacted with a woman that didn't charge by the hour?

>>740624373
Is that aragon in the pic?
Was aragon always Jesus?

>>740625686
>implying you own yourself
>implying you can own something you do not control
>implying freewill exists

fuck off brainlet

>>740625802
What's even your point?
We have:
Lots of guys that want to hit back when attacked
Some guys that want to hold her arms when attacked
Some masochistic Jesus cucks
And 2 Trolls that want to hit women for fun

>>740621833
real men always hit back. they want equality, ok bitch you got it.

>>740626205
Kys authoritian scum

I'm too big I'd probably kill a women hahha so if a chick was ever hitting me I'd probably just give them a bouncer toss, let them taste the pavement lol but if lad is close to same size as the lassie id say YES

>>740625890
wtf is aragon

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>>740621833
Yes, but just with enough force to make her back off.
You see, women are coward by nature, if you show minimal amont of force they will most likely run away.
There is no need to go McGregor on her ass and knock off all her teeth. Just do enough damage to make her realize that if she wants to fight like a man, she better be ready to take it.

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>>740626913
Oh lmao

I'd say it depends on their strength and intent, I've sadly had many women hit one me before, and not the good way. If it seems to be fully intentional and to try to cause harm, then I push them. That'll learn them real quick what they are doing is wrong. If it's weak af, then hold by thr wrist and squeeze till they scream, learn about true gender equality. Unintentional, you obviously let it go.

if i get attacked, i defend myself. doesnt matter if enemy is a litteral pussy or not.

>>740623934

You're right.

The very same people who would cheer you for hitting back against a man would dogpile you for doing the same to a woman lf equal, or even larger build.

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>>740622953
that families "he dindu nuffin, lad." tho

LISTEN YOU LIFELESS PIECES OF SHIT
IF YOU EVER DARE TO HIT A WOMAN I WILL LITERALLY KILL YOU, I WILL PUT YOU DOWN AND STOM YOUR FACE WITHOUT MERCY
NO MATTER WHAT A WOMAN DO, NO MATTER HOW HOW IS HITTING YOU, NEVER EVER EVEN THINK IN HITTING BACK
FUCKING LOSERS!

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>>740621833
Men should only be restricted from defending themselves against women in a society where women have no power to claim "rape". In the United States it is so unbalanced that to even the scales men should be allowed to kill women for hitting them.

Ever wonder what would happen if a guy hit a bitch like a bitch? My ex was being a fuckin BITCH and wouldn't get out of my face so I shoved her face and the stupid bitch just followed me until I stopped and slapped the shit out of me. Women don't know how to function sometimes and sometimes it's easier to establish a sort of hierarchy than deal with their shit. I suppose I could've just listened to her, but it was a simple misunderstanding and she was being psycho. There were other times however that I simply threatened her and that actually worked really well. There are also times that a woman legit wants you to fuckin shake her to calm her down. Tricky situations ay

>>740621833

I have hit my wife a few times, not proud of it but not ashamed and telling her it will never happen again.

I'm from Eastern Europe, Latvia and its somewhat acceptable here, especially with Russians. Thinking about it from the stories of my wifes friends i hit her the least out of them

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This is an interesting story that I wanted to make a thread about, but since it's relatively related;

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jordan-college-student-who-escaped-kidnapping-speaks-out-south-carolina/

So if you, I, anybody (in the U.S.) has sex with a girl who is 15-17 (in states where A.O.C. is 18) they'll be called a "girl." If that girl commits a crime, she'll be charged as a minor.

Yet if you read the article this 20 year old woman is heralded for fending off 3 "men" who were actually ages 15, 15 and 17, but of course will be charged as adults.

>>740622671
tru dat

>>740621833
Don't bother hitting them back just rape them instead

>>740621833
The twenty-whatever cent on the dollar earning tax that women pay goes towards a greater expectation to be protected from violence. If we get rid of one we will have to get rid of the other, then women will have to start getting by on their own personal merit.
The only bigger disaster for womankind in the first world would be Islam.

>>740624373
the guy in that pic is a jew

>>740630570
>not so happy meal
hoohh shit my sides

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I would actually slap her like that dude.
Because a slap tells that I don't really care about her and puts her in her place just like you would slap a child when he has done something wrong.

>>740621833
Yes even for discipline but here u cant so try for a nice one with no self esteem.
They wont try to hit u out. ...theyll reason with u instead

>>740621833
If a woman hits me I'll respond like I do with any child, turn them around and spank them until their bottom is red.
Act like a child, get treated like one

>>740621833
In my opinion it should be obvious that men should be allowed to hit back, but we have this weird backwards notion that women are the weakest frailest beings in the world, it's retarded.

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>>740629961
>but will be charged as adults

This is one stupid assumption you make there, my friend and its only based on the choice of words in the article. Man up, you beta faggot, your comparison with the age of consent-wording bullshit is just plain retarded

>>740622531
Women are more likely yo use objects. Enjoy getting an iron to the head

>>740621833
If someone hits you, you have the choice to hit back if you aren't incapacitated afterwards. Regardless of race, gender, religion, whatever. Don't start what you can't finish

>>740622652
Yes. There's literally no reason he shouldn't be allowed to, if someone that tiny is stupid enough to go up against someone that big then fuck it; can't be helped.

>>740624155
Female aggression patterns are different. They escalate, while men explode. If you let a woman lay a hand on you she won't stop until you get a frying pan to the head

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>>740622531
I have no doubt some women can hurt my physically. Pic related

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>>740630886
>turn them around and spank them until their bottom is red

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This is pretty much my situation summed up

>>740631496
Thanks anon, I keked

>>740622588
Holy shit I literally just finished the episode that Dale does this in

>>740621833
by law in all 50 states in the united states of america you are allowed to hit a woman if you are under attack

>>740621833
>tfw my fetish is women dominating men in a boxing ring

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>>740629742
You need to hit your woman to maintain respect in those countries.

Its very needed here as well, but our society in the U.S. has been working for several decades to empower women and weaken men.

Feminism was promoted to reduce the population by breaking up the family, but in the past two decades or so the goal has been to make it so men are subjugated by women.

By emasculating men and creating a lack of confidence and confusion in young males that may very well carry to their adult life, inundating them with gadgetry and technologies that they become dependent upon, it weakens them.

Creating the illusion that their women have some supposed "strength" and mysterious complexity to them, they then look to these women for guidance and when/as the powers that be slowly erode this country and this world into a single totalitarian order, men will be less likely to rise against it because women do not fight back, women do not rise up (unless it is things that pertain to women ie. equal rights, reproductive rights, etc).

So when a man does oppose the Orwellian nightmare that has been slowly growing and creeping in the shadows, men will be the weak willed cowardice scarf wearing confused genderfluid, metrosexuals that they have already become. As uncertain and misguided as the women they follow.

I can never place the greek philosopher who said it, but as he said, "When the women are corrupt, the society is corrupt."

Just look around. This place is only a sliver of exaggeration to the corruption that exists.

>>740623097
for throwing a phone? So if one day you have kids and your toddler throws the broccoli to you are you going to punch him and strangle him until he dies?

you are fucking psycho and need to seek help ASAP

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>>740630958
You read like the kind of emasculated weak willed bitch boy who enjoys getting pegged in the ass by his bitch.
You probably apologize for leaving the toilet seat up too, faggot.

>>740622953
Oh, cry me a fucking river.
>"A small number of people are set off by women's equality. They are in denial."
>The entire point of the article is that author is outrage that the woman got treated like a man.
Really activates the almonds.

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>>740632352
Shut up pussy, there's a difference between a child throwing a piece of broccoli, and an adult throwing a phone at you.

If my child throws something at me with the intent to injure, they'll be getting a swift spanking.

We actually do have a kid together, 10 months old.

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>>740630958
>stupid assumption
>never watches the news or reads a paper, ever

No! My vagina makes me special!

>>740624645
OR being logical was never your strong suit.

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>>740632832

>>740622423
This guy gets it.

>>740621833
Women want equality, therefore they share an equal opportunity for being assaulted if they decide to lash out.
When women get taken out of UFC, then we can pretend the fairytale naritive of "never ever EVER hitting a girl" matters in the least. If a woman can knock me out, I'm at the VERY least gona choke her out.

>>740622588
>Faggot with childish ideals here, lemme tell you

>>740621833
Women fought for equal rights. I would treat her as I would a man.

>>740624373
Lol you don't get out ever I see.

>>740624382
Fuck yes I would.
If that child were threatening my life especially so.

>>740633332
Off by one.... I should go get raped by some seriously petite women.