ask ANTIFA member anything

Hey dude, at what investment bank does your dad work at?

How is high school going?

>>740568979
lel

>>740568857
doesn't work at a bank

>>740568979
but there are plebs in all classes

>>740568857
Do you think it'll be hard to live a normal life after the culture bubble of sjw's bursts and you're associated with a fascist movement that's only accomplishment is disrupting the working class?

>>740569147
So when are you moving out from your mom's place? Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4200272/92-Berlin-left-wing-activists-live-parents.html

>>740568857
why are you such a faggot

>>740569263
well the working class is kinda lazy at times isn't it?

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Why do you feel you need attention so bad? What was the purpose of making a thread on 4chan you retarded fuck?

>>740569355
and moving into yours mothers place?

>>740569476
i like frogs legs

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Found a picture of OP

>>740569628

thats not me but i bet this guy can whoop the arse of half of you dickraters

The only way to deal with Antifa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOBTpuBVmA

>>740569757
He's only holding that sign because he wants even more tasty sandnigger cocks to suck on

>>740569826
this niggas skull bits are at a Moscow archive room, killed you then, kill you know.

>>740568857

Why are you both gay and retarded?

>>740570013
nerve gas

>>740569424
If you're OP and you can only answer with that then that's pretty pathetic. The cogs that keep the base standard of living in societies all over the world and all you can muster is "ehh they're lazy" meanwhile antifa are standing the the streets burning bins and peoples property, livelihoods and assaulting people who have a differing opinion (and sometimes their own cause they're so fucking dumb lmao).

real change comes with discourse not with fascism like antifa seem to think.

>>740569985
Absolutely no proof of that.

Also Stalin killed more 'Communists' than Hitler did.

>>740570123
While I get why people call Antifa 'fascists', it's not entirely accurate because Fascists at least knew how to be organised, dress properly, have inspiring parades, and even make their own beds.

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>>740569424
Are you at all aware about what you just wrote?

Get a fuckin proper job, put your nose to the grindstone, work your way up to a senior position and eventually you're making 75-90k annually to spend as you please.

It's not that hard, shitstain.

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>>740568857
>whole thread

>>740568857
How much for sucky sucky?

>>740570123
tto answer your question, very few associate themselves as Workers now days, at the neoliberal turn of capitalism the Consumer subjectivity prevails. work have been mostly destroyed, with the dismantling of worker unions.We belong to a generation that lives very well in this fiction. That has never counted on either a pension or the right to work, let alone rights at work. That isn’t even “precarious,” as the most advanced factions of the militant left like to theorize, because to be precarious is still to define oneself in relation to the sphere of work, that is, to its decomposition. We accept the necessity of finding money, by whatever means, because it is currently impossible to do without it, but we reject the necessity of working. Besides, we don’t work anymore: we do our time.

>>740568857
How do you justify mouldy locks putting fireworks in glass bottles and throwing them at people?

>>740568857
Thank you antifa, for making me realize I fucking hate communist cancer.

>>740570521
what people? we are not liberal humanists, we have friends and enemys, not "people" in general.

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>>740570519
>tto answer your question, very few associate themselves as Workers now days, at the neoliberal turn of capitalism the Consumer subjectivity prevails. work have been mostly destroyed, with the dismantling of worker unions.We belong to a generation that lives very well in this fiction. That has never counted on either a pension or the right to work, let alone rights at work. That isn’t even “precarious,” as the most advanced factions of the militant left like to theorize, because to be precarious is still to define oneself in relation to the sphere of work, that is, to its decomposition. We accept the necessity of finding money, by whatever means, because it is currently impossible to do without it, but we reject the necessity of working. Besides, we don’t work anymore: we do our time.

TL;DR

>>740570678
needs money, but not because we need to earn a living. All communes have their black markets. There are plenty of hustles. Aside from welfare, there are various benefits, disability money, accumulated student aid, subsidies drawn off fictitious childbirths, all kinds of trafficking, and so many other means that arise with every mutation of control. It’s not for us to defend them, or to install ourselves in these temporary shelters or to preserve them as a privilege for those in the know. The important thing is to cultivate and spread this necessary disposition towards fraud, and to share its innovations. For communes, the question of work is only posed in relation to other already existing incomes. And we shouldn’t forget all the useful knowledge that can be acquired through certain trades, professions and well-positioned jobs.

Some former MetalEurop employees become bank robbers rather prison guards. Some EDF employees show friends and family how to rig the electricity meters. Commodities that “fell off the back of a truck” are sold left and right. A world that so openly proclaims its cynicism can’t expect much loyalty from proletarians.

On the one hand, a commune can’t bank on the “welfare state” being around forever, and on the other, it can’t count on living for long off shoplifting, nighttime dumpster diving at supermarkets or in the warehouses of the industrial zones, misdirecting government subsidies, ripping off insurance companies and other frauds, in a word: plunder. So it has to consider how to continually increase the level and scope of its self-organization. Nothing would be more logical than using the lathes, milling machines, and photocopiers sold at a discount after a factory closure to support a conspiracy against commodity society.

Is that your dad you're holding?

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>>740570646
Then don't act surprised when the Right Wing Death Squads eventually come for you because of your provocative faggotry

>>740570849
but what about freedom of speech?

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>>740570787
>needs money, but not because we need to earn a living. All communes have their black markets. There are plenty of hustles. Aside from welfare, there are various benefits, disability money, accumulated student aid, subsidies drawn off fictitious childbirths, all kinds of trafficking, and so many other means that arise with every mutation of control. It’s not for us to defend them, or to install ourselves in these temporary shelters or to preserve them as a privilege for those in the know. The important thing is to cultivate and spread this necessary disposition towards fraud, and to share its innovations. For communes, the question of work is only posed in relation to other already existing incomes. And we shouldn’t forget all the useful knowledge that can be acquired through certain trades, professions and well-positioned jobs.
>Some former MetalEurop employees become bank robbers rather prison guards. Some EDF employees show friends and family how to rig the electricity meters. Commodities that “fell off the back of a truck” are sold left and right. A world that so openly proclaims its cynicism can’t expect much loyalty from proletarians.
>On the one hand, a commune can’t bank on the “welfare state” being around forever, and on the other, it can’t count on living for long off shoplifting, nighttime dumpster diving at supermarkets or in the warehouses of the industrial zones, misdirecting government subsidies, ripping off insurance companies and other frauds, in a word: plunder. So it has to consider how to continually increase the level and scope of its self-organization. Nothing would be more logical than using the lathes, milling machines, and photocopiers sold at a discount after a factory closure to support a conspiracy against commodity society.

...and that is why I can't get a job

>>740568857
Bolshevik cunt

>>740571030
Antifa hates freedom of speech so much that giving it to them would be even more cruel and unusual than throwing them out of a helicopter

>>740571068
what a pride it is to sell your life in exchange for survival, dumbfuck. but you probably can even tell the difference between the two.

>>740568857
Why does antifa want to promote prison culture?

>>740571314
meaning how?

>>740571358
promoting homelessness, joblessness, violence

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>>740571194
The working class is a lie. The Volk is everything.

Fascism is Class Harmony

Communism is Class Conflict

Which one sounds better to you?

>>740571911
That doggie sure took a massive shit

>>740571528
we're not promoting homelessness, we're promoting war, actually war is here regardless of us, when a bank kicks a family becouse they cant keep up with a mortgage loan they promot homelessness, we are promoting fighting back, we live in a very, very violent society. as for joblessness. we promote self organization to the degree that working for our enemies is no longer a necessity

>>740568857
How many dicks have you sucked today?

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>>740571967
That resistance tho

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ANTIFA in a nutshell

>>740572126
you must be confusing this tread with that of your mother

>>740571967
Why not get a job and contribute to society instead of trying to destroy everything?

FUCK ANTIFA, FUCK CORPORATISM, AND FUCK YOU OP!

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>>740572215
You mean more like this?

>>740572311
>>740572311
there is no "society",kid. what there is is this heap of swindlers, impostors, industrialists, financiers and prostitutes; this entire Mazarin's court full of neuroleptics, Disney versions of Louis Napoleon.

and US, the free people.

>>740568857
Do you ever have an original thought? Or do you just copy/paste the same paragraphs into this thread for over a week now?

>>740572800
>>740572913
Its called severe mental illness. It's very prevelant among leftists

>>740572800
>why I can't hold a job flipping burgers

>>740572913
hey man, you didn't invent the english language didn't you? we are all copying and pasting evry thing, but some would like to put fences around thing and claim originality

>>740568857
If you believe so strongly in your movement, why do you hide behind masks? You should show the world who you are and how much you are willing to risk for a your beliefs, including improsonment and public ridicule.

>>740568857
Where do you live ? Just kidding you'll lie anyway cockroach.

Do you have a job?
-details

Do you contribute to society?

Do you believe in violent action against people with different views than your own?

Why are you such a faggot?

In your opinion, why did trump win?

What are your views on Justin treudau?

Do you believe we should subjugate doctors to menial salaries and socialize Healthcare?

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>>740573260
Mental illness confirmed

>>740568857
Do you admire The Borg?

>>740568857
Why do you hate the constitution so much?

>>740568857
Do you have to mow the lawn in order to use your mom's car on Friday night? Also, what other chores do you have to do?

>>740573297
we put a mask on becouse we live in a police state. alt right snitches dont have that problem because they are conformist ,snitches and collaborators with police, they are afraid of freedom, without their master they are lost.

>>740568857
why did you make bg kumbi your leader

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>>740573575
there is no constitution senile old man, there is the patriot act

>>740573724
Do you actually believe this or are you just a meme?

Do you realize that your actions are by definition fascist and ultimately alienate your potential supporters?

>>740573724
But Abbey Hoffman didn't wear a mask. There's a true social activist....

>>740573724
>alt right snitches dont have that problem because they are conformist ,snitches and collaborators with police, they are afraid of freedom, without their master they are lost.

>without their master they are lost

Marxism is so edgy that even your school teacher would agree with you...

>>740573849
You're an idiot if you think that's where the constitutional erosion started but that didn't help.

>>740568857
how does it feel to fuck yourself in the ass every day?

>>740573887
if you are fighting fascism that dont make you a fascist. ask some old polish partisan in WW2. violence is not fascism, not necessarily so, anyway.

>>740574174
Please give me a definition of Fascism, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about

>>740568857
Do a backflip off a roof.

>>740574044
i agree, it didnt start there. in any constitutional there is an opening to an emergency situation. Law implies an a state of exception. there is a good book about this named "state of exception" by georgio agamben

>>740574174
You aren't fighting fascism. You're fighting freedom of thought and speech. You are fascism.

>>740574310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxKQfTOXpJI&t=664s

skip to 1:48

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>>740574711

>>740568857
What level is your bikelock?

>>740574711
Try some lifting bro? Also have fun with your slingshots and airsoft AKs

>>740574940
THIS

>>740574711
Is there a link that doesn't require sign in?

>>740575191
It's just faggots and lesbo sheeboons trying to be edgy revolutionaries.

They suck at violence and they know it

>>740575076
i actually lift, lol.

as for you, i can say, hold tight to your iphone on the 911 call, uncle tom

>>740575040
Dude he has a Genuine Vintage Hale's Own Professional Killstreak Australium Diamond Botkiller Mk.II Bikelock I'll have you know

>>740575191
https://sub.media/video/trouble-2-bash-the-fash/

>>740575369
Dude, do you have a meme disability or something? Because i'm pretty sure there are government funded support programmes for that kind of thing

>>740575369
lifting cocks to your mouth doesn't count

>>740573195
Don't stop your doing God's work my child.
Moar pics of doggos taking a shit!

>>740575865
We're reaching levels of cancer on /b/ that were thought to be impossible. Summer is pain. Summerfags gfto

>>740575191
also you can check out this excellent article

During the nineteenth century, especially during its second half, every owner of investable capital discovered that he had roots among the mobilizable countryfolk who spoke his mother’s tongue and worshipped his father’s gods. The fervor of such a nationalist was transparently cynical, since he was the countryman who no longer had roots among his mother’s or father’s kin: he found his salvation in his savings, prayed to his investments and spoke the language of cost accounting. But he had learned, from Americans and Frenchmen, that although he could not mobilize the countryfolk as loyal servants, clients and customers, he could mobilize them as loyal fellow-Catholics, Orthodox or Protestants. Languages, religions and customs became welding materials for the construction of nation-states.

The welding materials were means, not ends. The purpose of the national entities was not to develop languages, religions or customs, but to develop national economies, to turn the countryfolk into workers and soldiers, to turn the motherland into mines and factories, to turn dynastic estates into capitalist enterprises. Without the capital, there could be no munitions or supplies, no national army, no nation.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fredy-perlman-the-continuing-appeal-of-nationalism

>>740575488
Thanks, and holy shit these guys are trash.

>>740576094
well, so now you know what your enemies are about. glad i could help.

>>740568857
How come people like based stick man and all the other anti-antifa groups kick your asses at every confrontation?

>>740575191
.

The footprints of the national armies are the traces of the march of progress. These patriotic armies were, and still are, the seventh wonder of the world. In them, the wolf lay alongside the lamb, the spider alongside the fly. In them, exploited workers were the chums of exploiters, indebted peasants the chums of creditors, suckers the chums of hustlers in a companionship stimulated not by love but by hatred — hatred of potential sources of preliminary capital designated as unbelievers, savages, inferior races.

Human communities as variegated in their ways and beliefs as birds are in feathers were invaded, despoiled and at last exterminated beyond imagination’s grasp. The clothes and artifacts of the vanished communities were gathered up as trophies and displayed in museums as additional traces of the march of progress; the extinct beliefs and ways became the curiosities of yet another of the invaders’ many sciences. The expropriated fields, forests and animals were garnered as bonanzas, as preliminary capital, as the precondition for the production process that was to turn the fields into farms, the trees into lumber, the animals into hats, the minerals into munitions, the human survivors into cheap labor. Genocide was, and still is, the precondition, the cornerstone and ground work of the military-industrial complexes, of the processed environments, of the worlds of offices and parking lots.

>>740576217
I think he was referring to the retards burning garbage cans and destroying random businesses because 'muh rayscism and capitalism'

Because those are real trash

>>740576280
thats far from truth actually

https://sub.media/video/alt-right-racists-kicked-out-of-pro-trump-rally/

>>740576555
i'll check your trips, but you're fucking delusional

>>740576527
yeah i know who he was referring to. thats ok, we are not about winning hearts and minds on /b/. actually We are the “hearts and minds” that must be conquered. We are the “crowds” that are to be controlled. We are the environment in which the governmental agents evolve and which they mean to subdue, and not a rival entity in the race for power. We don’t fight in the midst of the people “like fish in water”; we’re the water itself, in which our enemies flounder—soluble fish. We don’t hide in ambush among the plebs of this world, because it’s also us that the plebs hide among. The vitality and the plundering, the rage and the craftiness, the truth and the subterfuge all spring from deep within us. There is no one to be organized. We are that material which grows from within, which organizes itself and develops itself. The true asymmetry lies there, and our real position of strength is there.

>>740576555
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5xuzo3/maximum_alert_antifa_gets_money_state_funding/

When you actually get state funding you should probably stop being a faggot and realise that you are controlled opposition.

Nationalism is the only threat to the Globalist order. Anyone with two braincells knows that Marxism doesn't work and the entire 20th century proves that it is an absolute joke as an economic concept. You are literally so little of a threat to those in power that they are comfortable using you against their enemies. Think about that for a moment

>>740577033
Dubs speaks the truth. Hail KEK

Why did your parents stop paying for college?

>>740577107
Praise be the dark lord of memes

>>740577372
Because a 100,000$ investment in transsexual feminist basketweaving is not a valid investment

>>740577033
by "Globalist order" you mean neoliberalism, and its true that the rise of neoliberalism coincides with the weakening on the welfare nation state. however, there is no return, anywhere, the the national mode of production. the state is too weak after 30 years of neoliberalism, trump didnt repeal the TPP, and he cant. hes presuing neoliberal policy with a thin mask of nationalism, the poor folks will go on being poor

>>740568857
Do you have anything to say about Value theory?

>>740577721
I agree that both neo liberalism and neo conservatism are fucked. Nationalism as a culture is the only way towards a stable society. Even the Soviet Union used nationalism to maintain order. However, the only time socialism ever worked was when it was called National Socialism.

>>740577761
yeah, capitalist Value renders everythig Valueless, hence the indeterminate destruction on the streets. capitalism turn everything into bullshit and bullshit will burn

>>740577960


Human beings were mobilized in terms of their lowest and most superficial common denominator, and they responded. People who had abandoned their villages and families, who were forgetting their languages and losing their cultures, who were all but depleted of their sociability, were manipulated into considering their skin color a substitute for all they had lost. They were made proud of something that was neither a personal feat nor even, like language, a personal acquisition. They were fused into a nation of white men. (White women and children existed only as scalped victims, as proofs of the bestiality of the hunted prey.) The extent of the depletion is revealed by the nonentities the white men shared with each other: white blood, white thoughts, and membership in a white race. Debtors, squatters and servants, as white men, had everything in common with bankers, land speculators and plantation owners, nothing in common with Redskins, Blackskins or Yellowskins. Fused by such a principle, they could also be mobilized by it, turned into white mobs; lynch mobs, “Indian fighters.”

Racism had initially been one among several methods of mobilizing colonial armies, and although it was exploited more fully in America than it ever had been before, it did not supplant the other methods but rather supplemented them. The victims of the invading pioneers were still described as unbelievers, as heathen. But the pioneers, like the earlier Dutch, were largely Protestant Christians, and they regarded heathenism as something to be punished, not remedied. The victims also continued to be designated as savages, cannibals and primitives, but these terms, too, ceased to be diagnoses of conditions that could be remedied, and tended to become synonyms of non-white, a condition that could not be remedied. Racism was an ideology perfectly suited to a practice of enslavement and extermination.

>>740568857
Why do you call anyone you disagree with a Nazi and a fascist, while using Nazi tactics?

>>740578265
You didn't excactly excell in history did you?

Because if you did, you would know that Nationalism in 19th century Europe was actually seen as a threat to the ruling order of Monarchism. Nationalists in the early 19th century were the counter culture and edgy intellectuals of their day. They wanted nations built on the unity of common culture, language, history and identity, and not just random peoples arbitrarily shoved together into kingdoms.

Please study actual history before regurgatating copypastas from an anarchist loon board

>>740578581
>language
The United States was still a collection of multilingual, multi-religious and multi-cultural ‘ethnicities’, and the French nation had overflowed its boundaries and turned itself into a Napoleonic empire. The reader might be trying to apply a definition of a nation as an organized territory consisting of people who share a common language, religion and customs, or at least one of the three. Such a definition, clear, pat and static, is not a description of the phenomenon but an apology for it, a justification. The phenomenon was not a static definition but a dynamic process. The common language, religion and customs, like the white blood of the American colonizers, were mere pretexts, instruments for mobilizing armies. The culmination of the process was not an enshrinement of the commonalities, but a depletion, a total loss of language, religion and customs; the inhabitants of a nation spoke the language of capital, worshipped on the altar of the state and confined their customs to those permitted by the national police.

>>740578581
The welding materials were means, not ends. The purpose of the national entities was not to develop languages, religions or customs, but to develop national economies, to turn the countryfolk into workers and soldiers, to turn the motherland into mines and factories, to turn dynastic estates into capitalist enterprises. Without the capital, there could be no munitions or supplies, no national army, no nation.

Savings and investments, market research and cost accounting, the obsessions of the rationalistic former middle classes, became the ruling obsessions. These rationalistic obsessions became not only sovereign but also exclusive. Individuals who enacted other obsessions, irrational ones, were put away in madhouses, asylums.

The nations usually were but need no longer have been monotheistic; the former god or gods had lost their importance except as welding materials. The nations were mono-obsessive, and if monotheism served the ruling obsession, then it too was mobilized.

>>740578742
I wasn't talking about America, or did you fail in geography as well.

Also the Napoleonic Empire was extremely short lived and consited of puppet states on the French consitutional model.

>>740578872
Where do you even copy paste this Marxist shit from?

>>740579020
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fredy-perlman-the-continuing-appeal-of-nationalism

>>740579132
>https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fredy-perlman-the-continuing-appeal-of-nationalism

You would think that with all that self criticism and resulting self improvement people would actually be taking Marxism and Anarchism seriously by now

>>740579020
also here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MODP4BTVq6M

>>740568857
why do you feel the need to be a fascist

>>740579270
hey man, which people? many people take seriously people like peris hilton.

>>740579367
This entire argument is flawed because it assumes that nationalism is an eternal, primordial concept. This is false. Tribalism is primordial, Nationalism within the Euro-American sphere exists only since the early 19th century. Many of these 'trans nationalist' arguments are from periods before a definate understanding of nationalism.

This is arguing things for time periods where the given ideology in question does not exist or does not apply.