The Holocaust was a hoax. Prove me wrong.

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>>740429551

It's funny. All physical evidence proves the holocaust never happened, yet all the "victims" testimonials are either batshit crazy or go against the physical evidence.

Everytime someone points out it was a hoax, fat idiot retards claim "WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SURVIVOR TESTIMONIALS" but never have any physical proof it happened.

>>740429823
ive literally been to auschwitz

>>740429823
Provide me with physical evidence

>>740429551
The Holocaust wasn't a hoax, it was just a prank bro!

>>740429551
you mean the LOLocaust

>>740430032
Hope you realize that they closed auschwitz for 30 fucking years and no one was allowed in or out, regardless.

Did you get to see the pool and theatre? How about the dental offices or horse stables? I know it must have been truly traumatic for you.
>>740430065
Ironically, the biggest physical evidence is the LACK of evidence claiming gas chambers existed. Zyklon B stains walls blue, yet the gas chambers didn't have blue walls, like other camps had! Those camps had blue walls you say? Why yes, they did! In the delousing room used to process clothes!

>>740430032
I've LITERALLY been to disney land, mickey mouse is real!

>>740430333
uh micky mouse is a cartoon

>>740430333
i mean how could i possibly prove to you the holocaust was real?

you talking about the color of the walls in the gas chambers sounds like it doesnt really matter to me

>>740430323
so...because the walls weren't blue...the holocause is a fraud...?

i mean what if they just did it in a different room or with a different kind of gas

>>740430911
>>740430333
Here's a great resource for you guys

https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com

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>>740429636

>>740431046
most of that seems to deal with the idea of gas chambers and not the idea of the holocaust as a whole

jews were killed in more ways than just gas chambers

>>740431141
jews died of typhus

>>740429551
lol this is like saying "the american revolution was a hoax: prove me wrong"

>>740431211
jews also died of gunshot wounds to the forehead

>>740429551
So it was a hoax but now it's real?

>>740431141
Way to read the first few sentences. If you actually fucking scroll down you'll see a shit more.

Also, killed with what? Ovens? It takes an hour to burn a single body, it's physically impossible to burn 6 septillion bodies with what they had.

Hunger? Oh, you mean with food they didn't have because the food and supplies were being bombed, thus unusable? But all the pictures, right? Not like typhus causes people to look like that, regardless if they had food or not. So tell me, how did they kill, the 600 trillion.

>>740431299
So you're telling me they dragged all these people to a camp, just to shoot them? Why not just shoot them on the spot anon?

>>740431413
i mean they could have just shot them, or just beat them to death

there are all sorts of ways to kill people

>>740429551
Prove you self right.

>>740429551
This picture.

>>740431470
well then you couldnt use them as labor

plus mass executions in the middle of major cities would be bad even for nazis

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>>740429823
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/24/holocaust-survivor-lied-joseph-hirt-auschwitz
Read this today at work. Kind of strange how people who "survived" the holocaust lied, yet they justify it by saying they wanted to preserve what actually happened, yet they never expierenced it firsthand.

>>740431141
the biggest problem for me is that things that are demonstrably not true are the first thing that people (usually with a very pro-Isreal agenda) put forward as proof that the holocaust happened
if something that horrible happened, then why not stick to the demonstrable facts?
why do they feel the need to insist on something obviously not true being true?
why do they dismiss all other possibilities for deaths at the various camps?
and why do they work so hard to silence any one that not just contradicts their narrative, but simply asks for more solid evidence supporting their claims?

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>>740429551
Yeah my mates family left (all 96 of them incl babies) all their shit behind to go into hiding for 70 years and blame the Germans. It's an elaborate joke right?

If you want to glorify nazism, don't deny the destruction camps. In that ideology you should be proud you got rid off the weak.

Also: Bomber Harris. Dresden did happen Nazi Fuck. Ha fucken ha.

>>740431581
i mean the holocaust and ww2 go hand in hand

if you deny the holocaust you need to start denying other things, like the nazi eugenics machine and the purpose the war was fought

you can read any of hitler's writings or listen to his speeches where he constantly reminds people that jews need to be killed

>>740431602
idk man its not a big deal to me

someone who says the holocaust never happened is just a conspiracy theorist, no matter what you say you can't convince them, no amount of evidence would do it

>>740431485
That doesn't make sense. If they wanted to just beat or shoot them why waste resources rounding them up? Why not just waste them in the street?
>>740431542
I thought the goal was to kill all the Jews, not use them for labor. Why bring in all the sick and disabled instead of just killing them off? They can't do labor, why bring them!
>would be bad even for nazis
Shut your stupid fucking mouth. If they were so fucking evil they wouldn't have cared.

>>740431810
well i mean if you can use them for labor and then kill them thats better than just killing them

and i meant "bad" in the sense that ordinary non jewish german citizens might get upset if they see innocent jewish people being murdered in the street, even if they thought jews were evil

>>740431810
Wrong. They were super efficient. Cutting cost, optimization of labour force. The cold business approach is the scary part. Japanese have the same thing.

>>740429823
My grandpa has been killed because he was a photographer and a nazzi. Few years back we found an old box in the garage. It were pictures made at that time of dying jews and torture. Trow it all away because it was horrible to watch

>>740431810
jews were also used in experiments which wouldnt have been possible if you just killed them all instantly

not to mention keeping such a thing secret from western nations like the US or UK would have been basically impossible, it would have been tantamount to war crimes

>>740431346
Cool deconstruction of OP's statement. "The Holocaust WAS a hoax" implying that it used to be a hoax, but now for some reason is real.

LOLIAMVERYSMART

>>740432026
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

>>740431758
>>740431758
>someone who says the holocaust never happened is just a conspiracy theorist, no matter what you say you can't convince them, no amount of evidence would do it

Ah yes, anyone who doesn't follow the social vision is a conspiracy theorist, nothing more to it. Also, what evidence? You mean the testimonials that don't add up to other testimonials? Or how about the camps being modified after the war? I've provided my resource, you provide yours that isn't people saying it happened regardless of all the proof it didn't.
>>740431879
>well i mean if you can use them for labor and then kill them thats better than just killing them
Once again, why take the people who can't work into the camps, then? Why not just kill them?

>and i meant "bad" in the sense that ordinary non jewish german citizens might get upset if they see innocent jewish people being murdered in the street, even if they thought jews were evil

>may get upset to see innocent Jewish people being murdered in the street

Holy shit what the fuck is your problem? Like seriously, if they wanted them dead so bad they wouldn't load them up, transfer them to camp, feed them, clothe them, give them camp currency and all this shit. Just fucking think about this dude.
>>740432026
>torturing Jews
Curious to know what they were doing. Also curious to know why you would throw away fucking priceless photos that could have a serious impact on documentation of the time period. Fucking retard, no one believes you.
>>740432103
Won't argue with being used as experiments, but they weren't the only people. There was shit loads of native Germans experimented on as well. Thats not holocaust territory though, it's something else.
>>740432018
>they were super efficient

Nothing efficient about bringing disabled people to camps and clothing, sheltering, and feeding them, just so you can kill the..

>>740429551
pshht goy you don´t want your government to find out that you don´t believe in the one true truth

>>740431758
Ive read most of me in kampf and seen almost every speech he gave. I just see him saying jews are shitty people, not that hes actively killing 6 million of them.

>>740431758
>someone who says the holocaust never happened is just a conspiracy theorist, no matter what you say you can't convince them, no amount of evidence would do it
if the establishment ruin your life for just saying that it might not have happened
you know maybe there is something true about this "conspiracy theory"

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>>740430323
Your lack of knowledge is disturbing.
Crying "Conspiracy!" at literally every serious scientific proof for what happened there doesn't change reality. Your an uneducated idiot who buys into historical revisionism. You're part the problem.

>>740432026
Why in the hell would you throw it away? You dumb ignorant hick. You threw away a piece of history you dipshit. I'll show you something that should be thrown away cause it's "horrible to watch"

>>740431758
hitler never says 'kill jews' though
ones that got killed were 'nonzionist jews', killed by zionist controlled SS

>>740431810
Why do you kids listen to pol for information

alot of nazis were unaware of what happened in the camps
It was mostly very few like ss
The camps were shown to people as a paradise for jews
Propganda was strong but not all the nazis were bad eg schindlers list

>>740432810
Nigger I'm on your side. Unless the post was for someone else.

>>740431758
>no amount of evidence would do it
stop talking out of your ass, this whole thing would stop if someone were to bring up actual credible evidence for it happening that is not some inconsistent bullshit that conflicts with other "evidence" or (((testimonies)))

>>740429551
What about the SS testimonials ?
Lots of them did confess and lived for years after. Where are those who disowned their own confessions ?

>>740432925
>unaware of what was going on in camps
>"gassing and burning millions of jews"

Yes, only a select few ever knew about that! I'm sure all the guards in all the different camps had no idea what was happening! I'm sure guards never discussed it with soldiers that would tell other people about it!
>>740432960
No evidence exists, anon. Thats why it hasn't been brought up.

I don't believe in the American revolution and civil war either. They were bigger hoaxes. Prove me wrong!

i honestly can't believe the amount of racism against jews

im really glad im not jewish lol, i'd be pissed as fuck at you faggots

>>740433100
You mean like the Nuremberg trials where the nazis were kicked in the balls beyond repair basically being told if they don't lie they'll be killed along with their family? Yeah, I remember those.

The big bang was a hoax prove me wrong

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Why are there no pictures in this thread?

>>740432960
i mean we have documentation of the nuremburg laws

When you need a fuckhuge conspiracy theory with countless ramifications to prove you're right, it means you're wrong.

science is a hoax, prove me wrong

>>740433194
>racism
>jews
kekekekek good goy

>>740433337
i mean the reason you want to deny the holocaust is because you're an anti-semite

youre probably also from europe

>>740433141
completely different subject. Site your sources and what you believe took place shyloc. Their is a reason for undeniable proof the holocaust was exaggerated bullshit theirs a ton of hard evidence and its common knowledge it was lied about.

https://nodisinfo.com/holocaust-against-jews-is-a-total-lie-proof/

>>740433304
>>740433335
(you)

>>740433213
Some of them lived for years after that. Where are their retractions ?

>>740433398
my dick twitched ty

>>740433392
its a different subject but the form of the argument is the same

>>740433325
and?
being a second class citizen doesn´t imply that your kind is getting killed in enormous amounts
blacks were even worse of in the us and they weren´t killed of by the trainload were they?

>>740433328
>when there's a shit load of evidence that proves something didn't happen, then it totally did happen

Kill yourself. That's like a rape accusation and the guy provides video evidence she consented and the judge says "I DON'T KNOW, HE'S GOT PROOF, THAT MUST MEAN HE RAPED HER"

>>740433466
yes blacks were killed in large amounts, and they could have been completely eliminated if the US government had wanted to do such a thing

>>740433386
I am actually your friendly neighberhood (((jew))) desu
i don´t deny anything except for the ridiculous statement that a religion is a race

>>740433415
>testicles stomped in
>kept in solitary confinement
>knew if they didn't lie they were going to be killed

They never fucking said shit after that because if they did their whole families would be killed.

>>740433466
it does kinda imply that

i mean why would the government make such laws if they didnt have it out for the jews?

>>740431470
>Why not just shoot them on the spot anon?
They did - Babi Yar

>>740433415
>retractions that would totally not lead to their and their families untimely death through unfortunate accidents

>>740433473
In this case, your are the one denying the video evidences. With a conspiracy theory, like I said.

>>740433516
so we have a black holocaust? tell me more
sure jews died prolly many but not as many as is said
i bet you just as as many gypsies were killed as jews for all it matters

>>740431602
If you stick to demonstrable facts and recorded history, there IS NO DOUBT that the holocaust happened.
People witnessed what happened. There are records regarding the deportation, incarceration and termination of jews. There are records that state that it was the ultimate goal to kill all jews. There are records that state that jews are to be exploited for forced labour at certain places, It was called "Vernichtung durch Arbeit", lit. "extermination through labour". There are records of the Nuremberg Trials, where lots of those records were presented. There are numerous Nazis who gave witness statements to what happened.

Holocaust is nothing to be argued about. And not because you're not allowed to "ask questions", but because the questions have been answered countless times by respectable persons, by Nazis and by Nazi documentation.
The problem is not the jews and it's not the documentation and it's not the evidence, it's the people who are to thick to understand it, to lazy to work through it or who just can't come to terms with reality, who'd rather deny historical facts because it fits their agenda.
I would love to drag you fuckheads through what's left of the concentration camps and shove your faces into the dirt where the Nazis killed people by the thousands.
Fuck you and the likes of you.

>>740433646
no we didnt have a black holocaust but many blacks were killed, and they could have all been killed systematically had the US government wanted to do such a thing

>>740433628
>video evidence

Holy shit dude, what video evidence? Do you have video from before the Russians "recreated" the camps? Use your fucking head dude

>>740433565
because they want to prevent racemixing and remove rights from them

>>740430323
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120313103133AAp1rYM

Literally explains why there were no blue stains on the Auschwitz walls

But then again, I may just be talking to mentally retarded people, so there's no point

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>>740431141

Do you admit that the gas chambers were a complete lie?

>>740433709

why would they want to do that?

>>740433565
rules u = not allowed to criticise

when u hear last of someone getting sued for disrespecting christianity/islam, or for questioning how many of them died in X historic event?

>>740430200
LOLS@holocaust

>>740433690
and i said that the german government didn´t want to eradicate the jew either

>>740433452
No the reasoning and goal of lying about the holocaust is completely different than lying about the American civil war or American revolution. ANY war or war crime could be questioned or considered a hoax. And I gaurantee every war is looked back on and carefully examined to find the truth. Theirs a reason the holocaust stands out from the rest. And even Jewish scholars are pointing out lies from jewish "survivors" who actually lied about being in a camp.

>>740433735
i mean people are killed for disrespecting religions all the time

idk what your point is

>>740433770
right, they just made laws making them second class citizens

>>740433777
i just mean neither one can really be proven if you want to be difficult about it

>>740433734
for the same reason blacks were not allowed to do shit in the us, because they as human beings were seen as not worthy of the rights

>>740433698
> I'm right so what proves me wrong comes from a conspiracy

>>740433820
or worthy of living even?

its almost like the nazis wanted the jews dead or something

>>740432810
It only turns the walls blue when you use a shit ton of it, like you need to kill lice. Killing humans requires much lower concentrations...

>>740429551
https://youtu.be/dtELmz-MVvU

>>740433809
killed by religious fanatics not jailed by a western country
>>740433862
>or worthy of living even?
and again this implication is as baseless as saying the same about the us
of course there were people wanting and killing jews
but that in no way implies the governmental killing of the masses that is told about

>>740433899
lol even if the walls aren't blue, i dont think that single fact eliminates the entirety of the holocause

what if they changed the walls, or what if they used a different kind of gas? what if they cleaned the walls with chemicals after they got done? there are all sorts of things we could speculate about

>>740429551
Why would all those GI'S returning home with horror stories make that shit up? Also the Russians treated the Germans just as badly when they could

>>740433809
sued, like in a court where the criminal justices take the freedoms away

this only happens in amerieurope for questioning one group

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>>740429551
The gas chambers are a complete lie.

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>>740431729
>If you want to glorify nazism, don't deny the destruction camps. In that ideology you should be proud you got rid off the weak.

What if I told you everything you were told about WW2 was a lie?

>>740433747
>retard with no degree
rejected, be more obvious you're an indoctrishill

>>740433935
i mean people used to get thrown in prison just for having anal sex and it was in the bible that you couldnt

>>740433935
the difference is that there was a eugenics program in place in germany, which wasn't in place in the US

>>740429551
>prove me wrong

open a book fag

>>740433809
But the American revolution and American civil war are such broad topics compared to the holocaust. Its like saying world war 2 or vietnam war cant be proven.

>>740433935
another difference is the form of government between nazi germany and the US

>>740434119
the holocaust is connected to ww2, and ww2 is one of the broadest topics i can think of

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The Nazi crematories used evil Aryan magic to shrink the jews first before burning them. Also jew soap.

>>740434060
>i mean people used to get thrown in prison just for having anal sex and it was in the bible that you couldnt
ah ok then it´s totally fine to jail people for saying things
>the difference is that there was a eugenics program in place in germany, which wasn't in place in the US
just my two cents in this regard
the us had it far easier to distinct racemixing and in general blacks to normal citizens
unlike with the jews where they look just like germans especially after years for racemixing

>>740434167
dude im sorry but i can barely understand your english lol

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Did you know that nazis has super guns that could kill twelve jews with one bullet? How did they ever lose the war with that kind of firepower?

>>740433677
>If you stick to demonstrable facts and recorded history, there IS NO DOUBT that the holocaust happened.

Yes there is
>People witnessed what happened.

Their testimonies contradict each other

>There are records regarding the deportation, incarceration and termination of jews.

Yes, that happened. Termination? You mean death counts?
>There are records that state that it was the ultimate goal to kill all jews.

No there isn't
>There are records that state that jews are to be exploited for forced labour at certain places, It was called "Vernichtung durch Arbeit", lit. "extermination through labour".

Nigger that was a term thrown around by Himmler and other officials, and doesn't have any kind of specific reference to Jews.

>There are records of the Nuremberg Trials, where lots of those records were presented. >There are numerous Nazis who gave witness statements to what happened.

See above.
>>740433729
>reconfigured to look like a gas chamber
So they literally fucking changed it to their own interpretation of what it looked like.

Did you even read the askers response that has sources and counters everything he said?
>>740433837
Send me the video evidence you're referring to, if you're so sure about it.

>>740434050
> me and my groupuscule are right against the whole world
That's a nice ego you've got here. Would be a shame if some reality destroyed it.

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Oy vey, you nazis! My grandfather was in Auschwitz. He was shoahed in a masturbation machine when he was ten year old boy and cremated twice. His asshole still hurts to this day. Oy vey!

>>740434229
why do you even care if there are records? you could just say those are fake too

anything we give you, you can just call fake

"If you repeat something enough people start believing it." - David Rockefeller

I wonder if he was talking about the holocaust

>>740433677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKqu93-wGGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlBA2zp992c

>>740434198
Sorry, i´m pretty tired right now let me try again.
blacks have their skin as a "tell" for what race they are, if they "racemix" with a white person the child with have darker skin
on the other hand
a jew is nearly indistinguishable from a white person, if a jew has a child with a white person the child will naturally loose "jewish" features

Inversion of proof fallacy

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>>740434236

Stop lying using green text.

>>the whole world

You call yourself "the whole world" and have the nerve to talk about ego. You have no self awareness whatsoever.

How come you don't hear the poles exaggerating about the holocaust like the jews do, I'm sure they lost alot of people too.

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>>740433386
dont you realize how fucked up this statement is?
anyone that raises questions considering the holocaust is automatically an anti-semite.
this is why we cant seriously discuss the topic

>>740434316
Any record during the war, before anyone touched the camps, I won't call bullshit.

That's all you should need, is records from that time. Because if the holohoax is so real, then every record should be plastered with kill all jews and make them lampshades and shit.

>>740434473
the poles talk about ww2 all the time

>>740429551
You have a tiny dick. Prove me wrong!

>>740434473
FIGHT ME IRL PUSSY FAGGOT!!!!!!

>>740429551
Can you accurately describe something that would make you change your mind ?

>>740434502
Yeah but they don't bitch and moan and exploit it for monetary gain.

>>740434559
yes actually with NATO they do

>>740434577
I mean fucking movies, TV shows, books, car steering wheel covers, fucking all that shit.

Seriously, how many fucking pieces of media used to gain money exist that are about poles dying.

>>740434654
> car steering wheel covers
what the fuck? is that hyperbole?

>>740434499
sure we can, we are discussing it right now

i just think he's an anti semite while we are discussing it

>>740434654
well no one gives a shit about the poles tbh fam

>>740434689
the only reason we can discuss it now is because noone can call the cops on him

>>740429551
Hahahaha, look how excited you are to argue with people, you get heated so quickly, such a weak mind.

>>740434686
Yes. My point was the Jews slap the holohoax on anything they can to get money from it.
>>740434689
K.

>>740434727
what?

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>>740434689
>anti semite

Arabs are semites. Israel is committing genocide against the people of Gaza. Why aren't Israelis ever called antisemites?

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Darth Vader exists. Prove me wrong.

>>740434765
exactly what i said dumbo
i know there only exists the US in your head but there are actually western countries that will jail you for saying that it didn´t happen, and in which you have to fear to even imply that the official record is wrong

I am looking through my saved links for videos debunking the holohoax and holy shit has youtube been getting scrubbed recently. Almost all the good ones have been taken down or the account terminated. Good thing I downloaded them.

>>740434812
Darth Vader doesn´t exist. Prove me wrong.

>>740433677
my grandfather was one of the first US soldiers at Dachau
he told me several times in very gory detail what he found there
I've been there myself
nothing he said other than "It was an extermination camp" or what I've seen contradicts the possibility that food and medicine were scarce due to allied bombing and the camp was abandoned by the guards for over a week because the guards anticipated a US presence that took longer materialize

>>740434473
step up bih

>>740434799
because anti semetic has connotations that deal specifically with jewish people

>>740434820
learn english

>>740434833
Huh, I sure do wonder why all those videos are being taken down.

Almost like (((somebody))) doesn't want people spreading the truth...

>>740434920
>learn english
i know it well enough

>>740434833

This is still up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM

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>>740434850

>>740430323
Dental office clearly for removal of gold fillings.

>>740434857
Have you tried to talk about this with your grandfather ?

>>740434954
maybe well enough for slovenia, or whatever shithole youre from

>>740434833
How can you dedicate this much of your mental energy on somethign that doesnt even matter now, face it you are more determined on arguing with people than to spread the "truth". I know your type.

>>740434989
Dude he's probably fucking dead by now

>>740434857
>My Grandfather

Your grandfather got lied to his entire life sorry.

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>>740435020
>GIVE IT UP GOYIM, THERE'S NO USE IN SPREADING THE TRUTH!

Fuck off noseberg.

>>740432548
>Nothing efficient about bringing disabled people to camps and clothing, sheltering, and feeding them, just so you can kill the..

First of all disabled people, like children, the elderly and those not fit to work, were killed as soon as they reached camp since they were not fit to work. Then you talk about "clothing" "sheltering" and "feeding". Well, a barrack of 1200 people that had to sleep on wood planks all piled up on each other doesn't seem like they invested much on sheltering. Same goes with "feeding" (malnutrition was one of the main causes of death in camps) and the clothing you had the typical stripped vest that needed to last for all the year. A lot of people died of cold for that reason.

There's so much proof that's it's illegal to ask for proof.

>>740435076
So predictable...

Dude. Give Germans a job and they can make it happen.

>>740434999
puh good that i feel no nationalism for the shithole i live in, or else i´d feel the need to be offended by your evil jab against it.

>>740429551
>>740429551
Interdesting thread. I have been doing almost no research, but alot of thinking on the subject. My granddad served in the war in Finland 43-44. Here is my view of the holocaust.

When Hitler came to power there were strong anti semite views in all of europe, not just in Germany. Alot of the speeches and propaganda posters targeted the jews as being the fault of alot of problems.
War removes alot of boundaries, not just between countries, but alos in the society and rules. We already know that both the Wehrmacht and the SS committed warcrimes (So did USA, England, France and most of all the CCCP). The national socialist idea was that the stronger human (übermench) shouldn't be questioning itself on moral ground, according to survival of the fittest, it had the right to stomp down on subhumans (untermench). So when it was time to build workcamps (like US, England and CCCP), what kind of labourers would be sent there? I have met 2 women who claimed to be holocaust survivors, both were rescued by the white busses (Im swedish btw). One of them wore a tattooed number on her forearm. Their stories didn't sound like fabrication. One of them was sent to one of the camps in Polandball. At the arrival they were seperated into two groups, one with sick and old, one with workable ones.
They never saw the group of sick and old again. Implying that they were sent to "showering rooms". My conclusion out of all of this was that it is not only just reasonable that the holocaust happened, it is the most likely one. Regarding these points. Do you agree?

>>740435020
What a retarded arguement. Saying the holocaust doesn't even matter now with its far reaching consequences as being a central perceived event from ww2 is completely retarded.

>>740434468
Not the same anon
My God you mean Nazi Germany had several foreign legions corps!? Color me impressed with knowledge I've known for decades.

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>>740435020
>doesnt even matter now

The truth always matters. Especially when jews are using the holohoax to destroy western civilization.

lol my grand father was a nazi and personally executed a great number of jews, there;s no way i can prove im telling the truth but i dont really have a reason to lie

>>740435201
good i hope they fucking kill your family first you cuck

>>740435168
Working within your goalposts that is a reasonable conjecture to take but like you said you have no research done so it is reasonable not to take any solid stance on the subject yes?

He who answers a matter before he hears it, It is folly and shame to him.

>>740435200
>Not the same anon

Then shut the fuck up and stop butting in the middle of a debate.

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>>740435076
> B-b-but holocaust deniers are not antisemites, they only care about truth

>>740435168
sidenote: I do believe that alot of the stories from the holocaust are lies. and I know some of those lies have been debunked and exposed

>>740435201
How have ***they*** affected you personally? Seriously everyone here talks about jews like they stabbed their mother in the womb

>>740435189
>now
>ww2
hmmmm, jump to conclusions ignore key word you tried

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>>740435422
>recent history has no effect on current history

>>740435095

>First of all disabled people, like children, the elderly and those not fit to work, were killed as soon as they reached camp since they were not fit to work.

Use logic dude, why even bring them in the first place?

>Then you talk about "clothing" "sheltering" and "feeding". Well, a barrack of 1200 people that had to sleep on wood planks all piled up on each other doesn't seem like they invested much on sheltering.

Sorry it's not a 5 star hotel. Its a labor camp, they had a fucking roof over their heads. It's not ideal, but it's not like they left them out in the winter snow

>Same goes with "feeding" (malnutrition was one of the main causes of death in camps)

Like allies bombing their food supplies?

>and the clothing you had the typical stripped vest that needed to last for all the year. A lot of people died of cold for that reason.
I can't really argue this. People most likely did die from the cold because they were sick. But it's not dying from fake gas chambers, it's dying from the elements. Not saying that's ok, but it is what it is.
>>740435354
The fuck are you on about? I'm anti semetic as fuck, I never claimed I wasn't. Shit like the lies the Jews told about the holohoax is WHY I'm anti semetic.

>>740435325
Not research, but I do believe I have a solid foundation for my belief in what I have read combined with my general knowledge on human behaviour and the war (which I have studied quite alot).

Your quote is good, where'd you get it?

>>740435420
Angry people need something to blame

>>740435344
Debate? What debate you know your suppose to compromise and take others views into consideration right. All anyone does on 4chan is shove their opinionated "facts" down each other's throats

>>740434547
Funny how OP seems to be unable to answer this simple question, isn't it ?

>>740435488
>current history
never said anything about history not effecting me... arguing over whats real or not doesnt effect anyone... that shit's already happened it doesnt matter

>>740435529
>
Don't you think it is reasonable to say that when the old and sick were removed from the main population as to stop the spread of disease they may have just died from starvation/sickness? If you have studied the war you know that allied bombing runs had completely shut off some camps from supplies and it does not take a genius the army is going to be fed and then the people who could still work. The war sucked and many people died but I don't believe the National socialists spent time or resources destroying the Jews that would not join them. In fact before the war they were trying to make them all leave to go to Israel but that plan got bogged down because of the war.

>>740434420
HaaaaahahhahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaha You dumb fuck. no religious person in the entire world can be trusted.

>>740435488
wtf is current history do you mean present retard

I was expecting some holocaust porn?

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>>740435420
>How have ***they*** affected you personally

I already told you. Here's another example. Do you admit that jews are ruining western civilization?

>implying the jews would spend that much time and money on anything

>>740435827
cur·rent
belonging to the present time; happening or being used or done now.
adjective

>>740435815
Gee better disregard all scientific study up until atheism became a widely accepted movement around the 1800s.
>>740435776
what happened in ww2 set the stage for today and the holocaust is still used as a political card today.

>>740429551
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

>>740435849
WHAT?!!!! JEWS ARE TRYING TO STOP WHITES AND BLACKS FROM MURDERING EACHOTHER.... those fucking greedy monsters trying to save human lives

>>740435781
I agree with everything you have said here except the second last sentence. I have read, and sorry I cant quote it, somewhere about an infamous conversation not between Hitler and someone else, but Himmler and someone else. The subject of this conversation was "Endlösung der Judenfrage". Accualy googled it while typing this. I do believe that the Nazis where fanatics. As they have been seen fighting to the very end for their cause. (ironicaly the last german SS soldier to surrender in Hitlers bunker was a frenchman). I also knew about Hitler's first atempt to have the Jews evicted to Israel, but the negotiations with brittan about palastine failed. I do believe I read somewhere that the jewish terrorist organisation Stern supported Hitler in the beginning, believeing that he was their greatest chance of getting Israel back into jewish hands.

>>740436107
>trying to stop people murdering each other

No, it's taking guns away from law abiding citizens. That way all the illegal guns niggers have can kill the honkeys with no protection!

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>>740435975
>all scientific study up until atheism
>implying that all the scientists before atheism was religious

You should start reading more about the differenfe between Science and Pseudoscience.

>>740435815
siiigh, is that realy what you believe? You realy have no friends or family that is religous that you don't trust?

But hey everyone. How much DID the holla cost?

>>740436163
I would like to see it if you can find it. One thing to keep in mind and one of the large things about this subject is that there is alot of static on both sides. Both sides of the argument have ulterior motives to make sure their side wins usually. The holocaust is a large industry and money maker. Just watch Netanyahu make some comments on the holocaust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ju1w-iDR0o

I don't mean to pick apart what he is saying but just check around the internet. No one can agree on what the prime minister of Israel is even saying about the holocaust.

>>740436163
I would also like to say I am not a fan of Himmler at all beyond his administrative talents. He was the one who mostly spread the paganism stuff with his Thule group and generally mucked about.

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>>740436107

You couldn't even deny it. Jews are importing muslims into the west. Jews are attacking our rights. Your only answer is sarcasm, like a bitch. Typical.

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>>740436492
I agree with what you say here too, I accualy wrote a sidenote to my first comment to which you answered. However I don't have anymore time to participate in this conversation, gotta go <:/ but it was interdesting. Take care

>>740436241
Depends on how you look at it. If a friend of mine is religious and i ask that person to watch my dog over the weekend, i know i can trust him/her.

If said friend starts posting videos on YouTube saying there was no holocaust, or that he has an imaginary institution in the sky where his creator and all his ancestors lives, well that to me is the same as the persons i recieve in the psychiatric unit where i work, who believes they can fly, walk on water, that they are Elvis etc. Theres no other difference in batshit crazy than whats individually going on in someones heads. If you are religious, i do not expect you to believe me.

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>>740436779
>lets disregard a person by their religious views instead of their logical arguments that have nothing to do with their religious views

k

>>740436843
You took the words right out of my mouth mr :)

>>740433108
alot of people lived in fear
Kids were known to tell on there parents for things they said and they are swiftly taken away
People did live in fear
This isnt new look at north korea

>>740429823
Soory but there is plenty of evidence you are just listening to the mudslime agenda

>>740431485
>there are all sorts of ways to kill people

Jewish guy I knew was put in a work camp when he was 19. Worked hard and not fed enough. He didn't die but most everyone else got sick and died or sick and shot.

>>740429551
Fuck off little boy.

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>>740435849

"The Holocaust never happened because it doesn't fit my view of the world"

hmm

>>740432810
"Your an idiot". Might want to rethink your name calling.

I know that Americans are bad with numbers, but millions of people don't usually disappear without something shady going on.