God Emperor Trump stopping the mental unstable joining the military

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>MFW

Praise God Emperor Kek

Because non trans people are never mentally unstable

>>740236292
>stopping the mental unstable joining the military
Isn't being mentally unstable a prerequisite for joining the military?

>>740236565
Of course.

>All trans people are unstable.
>But not every unstable person is trans.

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what about an unstable army when it comes to deployment?

honestly it's for their own protection. how many straight guys on this site alone fap to traps? in the military, they will become comfort boys.

I can think of a lot better ways to cut the military budget but I suppose this is the most "conservative" appeasing measure.

there is zero reporting on what did trump talk about with his generals how can we even talk about it when we don't know the reasons?

Being willing to die for your government is pretty unstable as well.

>>740236292
>God Emperor Trump stopping the mental unstable joining the military

Another excellent directive from President Trump.

TRUMP 2020

>>740236718
Both of those are fewer nondeployable days than pregnant women.

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So I guess his wife is banned from ever serving.

The greatest military in the world is threatened by men who want to wear dresses. Congratulations.

Trump used his silver spoon privilege to dodge the military

>>740236292
>mental unstable joining the military
if you were honest with yourself, you'd admit that there are way more mentally unstable people in the military than just a few trannys.

In short, mental instability is not really the issue. SO i am calling your bullshit.

>The US military spends more on viagra than on trans-people

Get cucked US tax payers.

>>740236867
The answer is none. Hate to break it to you but if you fap to traps, you're gay.

When I was 18 and fresh out of high school I tried enlisting in the Marines. Sat down with a recruiter and went through all the steps, took a physical, proved I was fit, etc. I mentioned I take Paxil every day for depression, immediately, I was disqualified. They refused to take me.

If I can't serve for something as small as that, why should they?

>>740236701
Trans = gender dysphoria
Gender dysphoria = mental illness
mental illness = unfit to serve
Case fucking closed

>>740237896
mental health is actually the biggest issue here but that is directly a result of being in the army where changing your gender is something that has nothing to do with the army not to say that the tax payers are paying for defense not new traps, no bad feelings, but using this money to change your gender and not to be able to serve the country for up to 6 months is not militarily readiness and the US needs the army to be top notch 24/7 in order to govern the world

>>740236292
why does the left think that they can use the military for some social experiment?

>>740236628
nice quip liberal. transpose the facts and you won!! you dumb ass

>>740236292
If they want to fight and die for there country please let them.

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>>740238742
Team America

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>>740238742
fuckin horrifying whore.

>>740241636
LoL fucking beat me to it KiK>

>>740241636
The horrors this woman has seen ... slurping in Donald's jizz cannon .. I mean it's bad .. she has a certain type of strength

>>740239363
i don't think anyone as threatened. i just don't think they want them around lol. there are choices now. we don't have to cater mental defectives.

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>>740236292

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>>740236292

>>740241751
>slurping in Donald's jizz cannon
?
what cannon. trump is hung like a field mouse.

>>740238742
>>740241636

Jealous trannies detected

>>740241815
I do beg ur pardon.. seems like everything is under control here .. I'll show myself out

>>740241795
rekt.

>>740241827
Haha no dude but I do start my fair share of trap threads just to annoy the normies ... like u

>>740236867

None. Traps are gay.

>>740241880
Prob for the best inbred's to get red faced. neck veins will start showing.

>>740236292
Even better is that Foxconn is building a factory here just because Trump told them to! Foxconn is a massive electronics company in China that is known for low pay and unpaid overtime that leads to them installing suicide nets at their factories! MAGA

>>740241947

You have to be a millenial newfried to think that that gets any reaction from anyone on 4chan.
Dumbass liberals and their childish ~revolutions~...

This excludes 90% of /b/ from joining

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mfw this is to:
>pander to middle america bigots for support
>distract from the russia investigation

>>740241947

4chan has filters, your trap threads isnt annoying anyone, they're hidden, its only feeding your faggotass sexual desire even more. Kill yourself you worthless fucking waste of oxygen newfaghomo.

>>740242291
well its better than the nigger we had in office before pandering to niggers,faggots and welfare cases that wont keep a job. (which are you?) fuck you and your sad cat.

>>740241795
This is the level of joke that the average libtard finds funny. Tells you a lot about their intellectual/emotional ages.

>>740241947
haha so kawaii! Best Troll Evar! After this, lets go downstairs and change all the chips around in their bags and wait for your mom to come back and see her reaction TOP KEK!!!

die in a fire, slowly, painfully.

>>740242402
lol triggered as fuck pathetic trump mouthbreather

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>>740242402

>>740242402
Didn't love Obama, but he did fix the economy thing well enough in the long run, we're still improving due to it. So I'll give him that.

As for Trump, see >>740242061
He's cancer. If cancer is the best you can do, then please, do much of it for yourself and die.

>>740242462
lol not triggered at all. why do you libs think we have any reason to get upset? we won lol

>>740241137
I think what >>740236565 meant was that you don't have to be trans to have a mental illness. But that is assuming that being trans is a mental illness, which it is not.

>>740242402
Triggered much? Racist, bigot, on a faggot board while anti-faggot (like being on a gay porn website for 'research') ... I bet you just hate spending all that time in Trap Threads waiting for your report to go through, right? .....

>>740242584
noone is triggered dude.

>>740242462
As with everything else. I think you may have been he who was "TRIGGERED" kek

>>740237211
Kek butt blasted liberals on full damage control
>B-but everyone's a little unstable
>r-r-right?

>>740242584

you sound triggered, faglord.Go suck some black studs balls, because you are so secure in your sexuality, you cuck,

>>740242569
pathetic approval rating, under constant investigations for shady shit, but yeah he's doing a great job and you've got no reason to worry? lmfao yeah right

>>740240084
Like every politician in American history aside from based teddy Roosevelt

>>740242838
>not triggered
>slurs insults in angry tone
>projects remarks about sexuality insecurity
mhumm....

>>740240579
How is that cucking the tax payers? I'd rather my taxes help someone get laid as opposed to helping some faggot chop his dick off

>>740237211

It is consequential. Reap the profits of a nation, defend the nation. No orgarnizational unit ever had a chance to endure,as long as its members were 'too smart' to defend it.

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alright trumpy keep it cool now cocksucker

i know the russia investigation is scary stuff my boy

but don't get your knickers in a twist pal

just calm down

>>740236292
I wouldn't want to be in the military and have to trust some mentally ill retard with my life. This shit isn't call of duty, you can't run off on your own, you have to depend on those around you.

Trans have the highest suicide rate, as well as just being known for self harm and depression. Not only that but the meds they would have to carry around? I think they cost the US military upwards of an extra $10 million, that's only with a few thousand serving with them as well.

Fuck that.

>get shot
>bleeding out
>calling for help
>see some faggot with boobs and his cock out rocking back and forth
>shout over to them
>they shout back something about me having too much privilege
>watch them take out phone
>log into their 4chan gold account
>post something about white bois and blacks being superior

>>740242574
Trans = gender dysphoria
Gender dysphoria is recognized by the DSM as a mental illness with no permanent treatment available at this time.
Trans = mental illness

What happened, I thought /b/ was full of faggot homos who love trannies and hate trump?

>>740242569
lol. we think you are triggered all the time because of your insane reactions ("fuck you and your sad cat.") to something like >>740242291, which is a pretty rational presumption. Shouldn't you be satisfied? Is Trump not enough? Of course not. Go back to whatever fucking hole you crawled out of, or get a job and a life outside of worshiping Trump.

>>740243091
Hey, the point was proven for me. Don't blame me for the REEE post I replied to. P.S. love the degree insult post, I might use that sometime.

>>740242922

Haha, brilliant. He just keeps going, what a one trick pony. I guess your expensive humanities degree didn't work out to your advantage, if you can't even win an argument on an image board for 16 year olds.

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>mfw trump thinks he has a chance

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>>740236292
How does this man manage to keep getting more amazing?

>>740243079
Not to mention they have to "dialate" with a dildo in them 4 hours a day to keep their "vagina" wound from sealing back up

>>740242843
>lmfao
You need to go back

>>740243153
Agreed, along with his attack based responses like >>740243091
If all they can do is attack, they should expect to look triggered like the snowflake they are. You don't REEE unless you're feelin it, or an idiot. But this is the Trump base, filled with 'REEEEEEE I'M NOT CAPSLOCK, YOU ARE!' shitlords.

Just like our President, just delete the post and you look like a winner!

>>740243091

>>740236292
why americans care about this on either side? genuinely interested

>>740243107
So was homosexuality.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4695779/
Definitions change.

>>740243417
Some Americans don't care and want equality so it's over with.

Others need the LGBT to be hated and under their shoe for their ego.

In America there is a belief among some that as long as someone is below you, you are a better person, even if you are both homeless.

>>740243521
"Look mom, sure I killed and ate three people, but at least I'm not gay" - Respected American Son

"Oh Billy, you are a good boy!" - Respected American mom

>>740238742
oh that is sure unedited in any way right guys?
wink wink

>>740243153
>>740243357

I was just correcting a typo, you little twinks.
>>740243182

Btw, is this an implicit confession by the left of how ridiculous they actually are, if they turn one of their trademark self diagnoses and buzzwords (triggered) into an ironic insult after everyone mocked them for it?

>>740243521
Thank capitalism for that one.

>>740243417
Liberals care because they use social justice issues as a way of always being right. It's entirely subjective but they treat it as if they have complete say over what is morally right and wrong. So when anything negative happens to a small group they lose their shit. Conservatives, who are just as stupid, really only support this kind of shit because they know it pisses off the liberals to no end. That's where I fit, Trump 2020 you liberal faggots

this is a great thing. most transgenders are only joining to get the procedures and meds gov't covered anyways. also why would you give someone a gun and training that statistically has a 40% suicide rate? transgenderism is a disorder. there's a lot of things that will omit you from joining that aren't mental disorders and what many consider normal.

>>740243521

Yeah and some just don't want mentally ill snowflakes in the armed forces.
If the LBGT mainstream culture was any different I might go with it, but look at them, they are fucking unhinged.

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>>740243819
Citation of mental diagnosis that is current please.

>>740243489
You're still not making a valid argument.
At this point in time, gender dysphoria is still considered a mental illness and untreatable. Until that changes, they are considered by the scientific communitys standards to be mentally ill. The equation still stands.
Mentally ill = unfit for service

>>740243913
http://www.medicaldaily.com/transgender-people-more-likely-develop-depression-and-anxiety-247044

>>740243678
It started being used colloquially in the 1990's for discussing sexual assault, which is pretty reasonable. Only later did it morph into what it is today, from essentially a Content Warning, to a state of being (triggered). I and the majority of the left do not use it in the way you describe. Many don't use it at all. All we are doing is pointing out that the right does exactly what they mock others for without understanding the origin or reason behind it.

>>740243913
The DSM 5. Look it up.
Gender dysphoria is considered a sexual deviation, therefore a mental illness.

>>740243783
kek

>>740243913
Not that anon, but they're brain actually believes that it has been put in a body that doesn't physically match how it feels, and is willing to mutilate that body to make it resemble what their brain honestly believes is better for them than what they were born with. There might not be an official name for this kind of disorder yet but that doesn't make it any less of a disorder.

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I don't really get the mentally ill part. I mean it's just the military. The military isn't for the best of the best, it's for dropouts and poor people to get ahead in life. Mentally ill and deficient people have always been a part of that.
Furthermore, when Obama eased the restrictions on Trans people enlisting it was under the stipulation that they had to perform all the same tasks to the same standards as their fellow soldiers. So how is this an issue? It seems more like a distraction for Trump to try and get people focused on peepee issues and not his administration's problems.

People arguing about sexual deviance on a site obsessed with loli, fur, and traps...

WTF?

Trump supporters are extremely gullible. Rupublicans can't get shit done so the very next day he posts a controversial tweet to distract everyone from the fact that he failed repealing the ACA. It's working great but it's the type of shit commies do

>>740244007
>http://www.medicaldaily.com/transgender-people-more-likely-develop-depression-and-anxiety-247044
"Societal stigma and the resulting prejudice and discrimination trans people face from society at large and, possibly, from family members, peers, co-workers and classmates often exacts a high price."

Seriously. That is in the article and the general topic of it. You shot yourself in the foot.

>>740243816
https://www.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=2801
Veterans have similar rates of suicide. And I think you are missing the point. It is Gender Dysphoria that causes the depression and anxiety. Transitioning reduces those feelings greatly.

>>740244050
>>740244145
No citation. Just telling me to research their assertions.

>>740244145
gender dysphoria

>>740243920
See >>740244163.

>>740244163
>Mentally ill and deficient people have always been a part of that.
Anon, you're clearly talking out of your ass here. Aside from times of total war our military has always had pretty high standards. I get eczema from time to time, I have to put a special cream on my hands about once a week and that was enough to disqualify me from joining the marines. It might not be for the most educated but where on earth did you get the idea that they take anything but the best they can get?

>>740244193
>implying everyone in this thread jerks off to lolis, traps, or furry porn.

>>740244050
So according to your statement and this article, we need to segregate trans people due to the stress and crap they go through by being segregated?

Interesting....

>>740244575
meant for >>740244007

>>740244520
The army would have taken you, you just tried to be something you're not. Marines is for smoothskins you nasty fuck.

>>740244282
>And I think you are missing the point.
They are gross and gross things need to be removed from the planet #MAGA

>>740236292
Can we all agree that Trump needs to be castrated so that he can experience a thing a or two?

>>740244538
Implying it's pretty trite to stand in a group of deviants, regardless of your own inclinations, and start acting like it's OTHER people who are sexually quirky.

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I've been loving every second of this shit storm

>>740244730
Go cry more you trans lib furry fagit bitch pansey

>>740244377
I'm not doing your research for you, I told you the most reputable source in psychology today and their actual diagnosis.
Google DSM 5 transsexual. It's plain as day.

>>740244832
>I'm not doing your research for you
Well if you don't want to back up what you say, then that's on you.

But it's not our job to research your assertions.

>>740244625
The army doesn't accept ghouls either, in hindsight I should have just not mentioned it, no way someone would notice without me pointing it out

It was his military advisors really..

I wonder if he tweeted on purpose it to take the abuse he knew he'd get so the military would get less grief.

If so, very clever.

>>740236292
You're about 400 threads late, turtle. That was yesterdays boot on the neck of americans. Today there will be a new scandal or crisis. Try to keep up.

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Best president ever!

>>740244442
It doesn't change the fact that the mentally ill should not be allowed to serve.
Besides, if this ban hadn't been enacted, most trannies would be asking for exemptions from service anyway.
Also, see
>>740244520

>>740242061
Nice nigger-tier understanding of the situation.
It's funny.

>>740244906
>implying it's my assertion and not a fact

>>740236718
Why wasnt it just explained away like tattoos. Grandfather the ones that are in, but no getting a sex change while in.

>>740245062
Well I just stated facts about their factory in China. I'm sorry if facts make me a nigger, well actually, in Trumpland that would make sense.

>>740236292
In all fairness, they were always banned. Obama put forth a measure to allow them and Trump is just stopping it. I do believe the "don't ask, don't tell" is still gone though, so gays can get shot all they want.

>>740245157
>implying it's a fact and we should believe what you say rather than you need to back up your statements.

If you don't understand the basics of debate, in that you can not just make blind assertions, then you are hopelessly out of reach for a discussion.

Have a nice day in your world where everyone has to revolve around your stated fact without basis of proof provided.

>>740242402
This is the only actual reasoning behind the election and every action of this presidency.

I'm glad it happened, because it has emboldened the worst people among us to stand up and beat the drum loudly. Right now you're all getting a free pass at being as openly hateful and anti-everything and everyone as you can be.

Paint those targets you've hung around your necks brightly, so we can all see them. Very good.

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But he stopped himself from joining for free by dodging the draft.

>>740245266
No nigger this shitty tablet doesn't copy and paste very well, it's a massive pain in the ass.
Go to google, type in "DSM 5 transsexual"
First result tells you everything I've said from the most reputable and scientifically accepted source available.
>implying you've done any research or have citations to back up your argument

>>740245430
>who is Bill Clinton?

>>740243920
>>740243920
It is valid whether you choose to to recognize it as such or not. It would make sense to explain why my point is invalid, but...
My point is that homosexuality was once considered a mental illness by the scientific community's standards. Because of this status as mentally ill, homosexuals were not allowed to serve in the military. That changed (for the U.S.) in 2011 when it was repealed by congress. Why was it repealed? Because it was no longer considered a mental illness and there were already homosexuals in the military anyway. Definitions change. That is my point. Apply the same reasoning to transgender individuals in the military today.

>>740245435
>implying you've done any research or have citations to back up your argument

My argument is that you have not backed up your statements. That's been proven for me. By you.

>>740245637
Something else being considered a mental illness back then is completely irrelevant to the fact that transgender individuals are currently considered mentally ill today, stop bringing it up, it's not an argument at all.

>Man goes to fight
>Kills people, sees friends blown into little chunks of flesh, kids suicide bombing, The public don't support him.
>comes back
>mentally ill(and understandably so and deserves full psychiatric care)
>"I'm a woman now!"
>Liberals: OMG! WE MUST SUPPORT THIS BRAVE TRANS WOMAN.
>The HRT and feeding the delusion makes it worse thanks to mood swings and depression.
>The left want thousands of mentally ill soldiers with weapons

Mental illness.

>>740245828
He did back up his statements though, he told you the source. I did the search and I'm guessing this is what he meant.

https://tgmentalhealth.com/tag/dsm-5/

>>740245637
I understand what you're saying, but at this point in time, gender dysphoria is still considered a mental illness. I get that one day, maybe it won't be, but until that changes this is the scientific community standard.

>>740245637
>adultery was considered a crime in the past so murder could stop being considered illegal in the future
This is how you sound.

You conform to the military, the military does not conform to you. Trans are not fit for the military.

>>740245926
>He did back up his statements though
>and I'm guessing this is what he meant

So we have to assume something is what is backing up his statement. Interesting logic there....

Even this assumption does not assert that a person who has transitioned is unfit for duty, it can be said that some people that are wanting to transition could be unfit, but then we are reaching outside of 'all' - wherein 'all trans people are not allowed' and in this we can say that some soldiers with PTSD are unfit, so all soldiers with PTSD should be unfit, or some soldiers may feel depression and suicide, so 'all soldiers that potentially could feel this should be unfit'.

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>>740245430
>Manages to evade a pointless war

>US lose said war with 2.7 million American soldiers affected from 1964-1975 including 104,218 dead soldiers,108,000 wounded requiring hospital care, 153,000 wounded not requiring hospital care, 1600 missing and 800 PoW's on top of 460,000-530,000 requiring mental help at a time such things weren't understood/

>Public despise veterans because of Communist infiltration of American universities.

>Veterans forgot about and pissed on.

Smart man.

Everyone is ignoring the big picture.
Read the presidents words.
>Our military must be focused on a decisive and overwhelming victory.
Why those words when we aren't in conflict with any major nations? Simple:
WE'RE GOING TO WAR.

RIP North Korea. Shock and Awe 2.0 is coming your way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R30cbnkMG3s

>>740246354
Now you're just arguing semantics.You've been given the source and refuse to look it up, wet you still insist on lecturing others about the fine points of debate.
There is mandatory physical and mental screening to determine if you can serve. As stated in the DSM 5 gender dysphoria and PTSD are both mental illnesses.
Hey look, there's that source again!

>>740247122
Actually, that's a good point.

>>740247228
>given the source and refuse to look it up
I did actually look at the 'assumed source' and I read it and made a response in the bottom of my post, did you not read that?....

Again, it is possible that a trans person may not be fit for duty before their transition. I questioned that if we are dealing with potentials, then potentially depressed or suicidal people should be unfit as well?

But you cherry picked from my comment after claiming I didn't read it, when I took information directly from it.

That's cute.

>>740247472
My source is the actual DSM 5, stating that gender dysphoria is a sexual deviation, i.e., a mental illness. It's very simple.

>>740247122
Not going to happen.
Strategically it doesn't work.

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>>740236292
he should've banned faggots too while he was at it

>>740247731
>sexual deviation
"Paraphilia (also known as sexual perversion and sexual deviation) is the experience of intense sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviors, or individuals.[1] Such attraction may be labeled sexual fetishism. No consensus has been found for any precise border between unusual sexual interests and paraphilic ones.[2][3] There is debate over which, if any, of the paraphilias should be listed in diagnostic manuals, such as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) or the International Classification of Diseases (ICD)."

The jury is still out on it being a mental disorder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

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>>740236292
>Believing CNN

>>740247969
Meh, he revoked their civil rights this morning! Even better!

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>>740247122
I remember watching that waiting for the shock and awe to begin, but only seeing what looked like about 4 planes doing a few bombing runs.

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>>740236292
all hail Trumpaloompah scourge of all those less powerful than him

>>740236292

If anyone thinks that he's doing this for any other reason than to distract you from his treason with Russia, then you're the reason why the government sucks so bad.

>>740247998
Wikipedia is not a reliable source, seeing as it can be changed by anyone at any time.
The DSM 5 simply lists all recognized mental illnesses and how to asses/treat them.
Gender dysphoria is one of those. Just because it's "under debate" due to being a current hot button in society does not change the fact that it is still considered a mental illness at this time.

>>740247731
>sexual deviation
>deviation
>deviating from what
>deviating from "normal"

You know what was considered "normal" at the time of writing that? Every last one of you on this board would be forcibly removed from society and committed to a sanitarium for daily injections that would have you a drooling vegetable waiting in line for a lobotomy.

Everyone deviates from those shit old norms, bc it is not 1945 anymore, and there is no use in going through life wishing you lived in another century. You live in this one, now.

>>740248202
Yeah that was weaksauce. And selling the destruction of a civilian population as "schlock and awe", as if you're putting on a fireworks show to thrill and delight, did not win them any points either.

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>>740248615
Yeah, thanks. We read that the first time.
Quality addition to the thread, moron.

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>>740236292
who cares about trannies?

>>740248499
The DSM 5 was officially released in 2013

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>>740236292
Oh look another distraction which means to continue separating the country, while the rich cock suckers laugh all the way to the bank. So transparent, but I bet you sheep just fall in line at every ploy. Sad.
For a second I thought he may change something, alas just another puppet. Wishful thinking.

>>740238742
His darling wife was once a he.

But that was long ago

>>740242496
Obama did not fix the economy.
The federal reaerve Saved the economy. The federal reserve leaders that were apointed by republicans and kept on by the obama administration. The cause of the financial crisis was liberals crying about banks not giving loans to poor people. So the banks did give loans to poor people. They defualted on thier home loans and then the economy crashed because all these poor people stopped payong the banks.

You fucking retard.

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all bullshit aside, I wouldn't mind working for trump. Just imagining all that extra $$$$$$, perks, behind the scenes bonuses, and personal business immunity from the IRS and licensing and regulatory authorities. I'd be set for life.

Pfft, my local government position is shit.

>>740248412

this, what a perfect way to make liberals and conservatives bicker among themselves as true treason is happening right in front of them

I wouldn't be surprised if he stirred the abortion pot soon, or at least if more damning evidence comes out

>>740242074
Not that anon but holy shit the buzzwords. Kill yourself plz

>>740246072
Your arguement is pretty bad. Adultery would be a sexual crime involving two consenting parties, murder is crime involving killing. Not really the same anon.

>>740248714
Yeah and they wrote it from scratch then. It's the timeless, infallible word of god, and not an old manual that's so full of outdated shit it's has to be periodically updated to try to remain relevant. That's why there's been 5 editions of it.

Twat.

>>740242496
He didn't fix the economy.

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>>740236292

trump has to act in order to somehow stabilize his approval ratings.
so he
takes an absolute marginal and insignificant issue (as if instable transgender people in the military was a problem at all) and blow it out of proportion.

that´s populism and you retards are falling for it.
congratulations.

Well if there's ever a draft I'm suddenly going to have to start questioning my gender.

>>740245999
>>740245839
>>The American Psychiatric Association permits a diagnosis of gender dysphoria if the criteria in the DSM-5, are met. The DSM-5 moved this diagnosis out of the sexual disorders category and into a category of its own.[22] The DSM-5 states that at least two of the criteria for gender dysphoria must be experienced for at least six months' duration in adolescents or adults for diagnosis.[23] The diagnosis was renamed from "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria", after criticisms that the former term was stigmatizing.[24] Subtyping by sexual orientation was deleted. The diagnosis for children was separated from that for adults, as "gender dysphoria in children". The creation of a specific diagnosis for children reflects the lesser ability of children to have insight into what they are experiencing, or ability to express it in the event that they have insight.[25]
The International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10) list three diagnostic criteria for "transsexualism" (F64.0):[11] Uncertainty about gender identity which causes anxiety or stress is diagnosed as sexual maturation disorder, according to the ICD-10.[26]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria#Diagnosis

Gender dysphoria is only a mental illness that occurs in children. Not adults. According to current day psychology.

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>>740236292
Reminder that the DNC got caught committing treason, all while they bitched for 2 years about russia with no actual proof

https://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2017/07/26/this-exploding-dnc-story-is-crazier-than-fiction-maybe-rep-wasserman-schultz-can-explain/#327916c44144

>>740236302
not an argument

>>740248468
Wikipedia is the largest yet public accumulation of information. The 'can be edited by anyone' statement has been poorly used for a half decade to say that we can't trust any information there, but that simply isn't true.

As for your belief that 'something under debate' doesn't mean it is questioned, is missing the point that it is questioned as valid.

So even if we don't fully think it's true, it's true. Gotcha. Then my statement that the jury is still out is invalid because even though the jury is still out, the jury is not still out.

Do you also potato your creampie on sunrise muffin? .....

>>740248615
Well said.

Sadly the anti-normies will bathe in this change none the less.

>>740236292
what are we doing with the 15,000 or so serving transgenders already in the army? Booting them out?

So we are going to have 15,000 unemployed bitter ex-military personell on our streets?

Great job in bringing down those unemployment figures. Perhaps they will all find jobs in the millions of new coal mines opening up all around the country.

I can't fucking believe he actually had to say this. Of course we don't want people who chopped off their dick to join the military. These people, if you can call them that anymore, belong in asylums. Shit, maybe put some fucking SJWs in there too.

>>740248910
They wrote it from research and testing when the first edition came out. As new research and testing was completed, it was updated in order to improve treatment and diagnosis. It is a scientific manual used by psychologists, psychiatrists, and recognized by the professional community as the authoritative standard on assessing mental illnesses and you want to argue with that?
Would you also deny the physicians medical reference books as nonsense because they held wrong beliefs in the past due to limited research and testing?

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whatever happend to americas REAL problems?

like violence,
drugs,
the educational system,
corruption,
racism,
obesity and
the ever widening gap between the rich and the poor?

whatever, praise lord trump!
for he finally tackles the problem of hundreds of thousands of mentally instable transgenders in the military.

>>740249477
Fuck that shit, nobody cares.

Today he also revoked Civil Rights of gays! He is making America great again!

We have a shot to get gays back in the closet, if this nation burns to the ground, then it's worth it! MAGA

>>740236565
It's not even about mental stability. Anyone who requires constant care, special attention or endless intake of drugs aren't considered fit.

The only thing surprising about it is that it didn't happen sooner.

>>740249601
you´re like a paragon of how populism works on the feeble minded.
thank you for your contribution.

>>740249067

>an IT staffer who’d worked for Democrats in Congress was arrested by federal officials and charged with bank fraud.
>IT staffer has pleaded not guilty
>Democrats are being understandably quiet
>IT staffer was arrested after wiring $283,000 to Pakistan
>RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel has gone on FOX to demand that Democrats explain "what this is all about"
>RNC Chairwoman is also praying to Belial that this might garner more attention than the failing Obamacare repeal or the ongoing Russian saga
>The criminal investigation alleges “stealing equipment from members’ offices without their knowledge and committing serious, potentially illegal, violations on the House IT network.”
>RNC Chairwoman McDaniel is so worked up because IT staffer stole hundreds of thousands of dollars in equipment from House offices
>and allegedly funneled sensitive congressional data offsite
>allegedly
>BECAUSE LOOK AT THIS STORY NO OTHER STORY LOOK AT THIS STORY TREASON TREASON REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>740249348
Who cares is the better question.
They shouldn't have tried to join the military as some social experiment or as a way to prove to society that they can be apart of the military too.
The military is where our strongest people get together and defend our country. Not where we test the daily interactions of faggots and real men.

>>740249036
Where does it say that adults with gender dysphoria do not have a mentall illness? It simply stated that there a different classifications for adults/adolescents and children.
Wikipekdia again...

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>>740249477
Jared Kushner has been made head of fixing all those problems and more, don't you worry.

The Kushman's on the case

>>740249214
It's simply the scientific standard at this time. Being "under debate" will not change that. Perhaps after more research and testing it will be changed, but until that time it is the current authority on the subject.

>HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME TRANS PEOPLE CAN'T SERVE IN THE MILITARY ANYMORE
>DON'T LOOK AT THE TAX CUTS I'M ABOUT TO GIVE BILLIONAIRES OR THE HEALTHCARE I'M ABOUT TO STEAL FROM POOR PEOPLE

This isn't even 2d chess and it's still fucking working. There is no hope for America. Enjoy your oligarchy.

>>740249968
That was an excellent defense of treason.
Oh wait no it wasn't.

Imagine if Trump did something like this with the russians. You'd all be rioting in the streets.
Don't be a fucking hypocrite faggot

>allegedly
Why was the mother fucker trying to flee to pakistan and why did he destory a bunch if material that just so happened to convienently be future evidence had he ever been caught for doing something.
Lefties sheer willpower to ignore reality is beyond my comprehension. It must take some serious fucking brainwashing to be able to turn a blind eye to shit like this.
You realise you would all look so much better if you too jumped up and said "hey Fuck that guy thats bullshit" and condemed him rather then pretended like nothing was wrong.

I mean jesus fucking christ what the actual fuck is wrong with you?

>>740250110
you think 15,000 people joined the army cos of a social experiment?

You think all 15,000 were transgender before they joined the army?

You do not think that a single one of those 15,000 people joined the army because they wished to serve their nation?

And as a final question, did you ever serve?

>>740250353
Yes I really do believe that.
I live on a liberal college campus and you fuckers are mental.

Also there are only two genders. Stay mad

>>740249458
My question is, what does it being a mental illness affectively mean? I am reading the shit on transexuals and all it is really saying is

>> Gender dsyphoria
>> They want to be another gender m'kay
>> Effective consequence: They get treated differently in society

What are people even talking about when it comes to mental illness? The term implies that whatever the illness is has a negative impact on mental health. But if all the consequences are effectively social and perception based then for all intents and purposes being black might as well be a mental illness.

>>740250316
>I mean jesus fucking christ what the actual fuck is wrong with you?

Liberal fucktard

>>740250353
And yes, I did serve. I repaired and maintained jet engines and aircraft structures for 6 months on one tour working 12 hours shifts 6 days a week. And went on another tour doing patrols for a year and 2 months.
So don't try to hit me with that bullshit about how "i've never served so i don't know what it is like"
Fuck you
Have you served?
whats your battlion?

>>740250506
I'm not liberal.
Go back a reread what my post said faggot

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>>740250316
>That was an excellent defense of treason.

>>740250715
>Oh wait no it wasn't

> Joining the military
> Mentally stable

The only mentally stable ones are the ones that are looking to get out as soon as possible for the benefits.

>>740250459
According to The Mayo clinic-
Mental illness : Disorders that affect your mood, thinking, and behavior.
>>they want to be another gender m'kay

>>740250785
exactly, you cannot claim shitty defenses of treason when it comes to your opponents while having shitty defenses yourself

>>740249067
>Forbes
Fuck that shit I ain't turning my adblock off for those cunts.

>>740251050

"one political party does treason so mine can!"

This is not a defense. It's a logical fallacy.

Trump is guilty, and no amount of "but the liberals did ______" will make him innocent.

>>740250316
Dude, I'm a libtard and I'm still pissed about this stupid motherfucker. Fucker needs tossed into the ocean with broken servers tied to his ankles for funneling money to the middle east and trying to run, and for good fucking measure, toss Hillary and DWS into the drink with him!

>>740251290
>Trump is guilty
Yes he is, I was simply trying to push the hypocrisy of the defense his team tries to push. Fake news, nothingburger, where's the evidence, etc.

>>740250316
Calm down Shirley. There is no treason in that story yet, only McDaniel going on FOX screaming LOOK LOOK LOOK THE DEMOCRATS ARE COMMITTING TREASON YOU SHOULD TOTES FOCUS ON THAT STORY AND NO OTHER STORY

Don't get me wrong though Shirley, there is the potential for this to be much larger than paki scum stealing office equipment. But as it stands there is nothing here that shows that the Democrats have committed treason. That's like saying that Donald Trump committed treason because his retard son was willing to make undisclosed trades with the russians if it meant winning the presidency.

>Imagine if Trump did something like this with the russians.

Steal office equipment? Or launder money? Yes the mind boggles how Trump might have broken the law or how people would react.

>Why was the mother fucker trying to flee to pakistan

Cos he had tried to steal a fuckton of office equipment and didn't want to go to prison?

>why did he destory a bunch of material

destroying evidence? see above

>Lefties sheer willpower to ignore reality is beyond my comprehension.

I imagine a lot of things are beyond your comprehension

> It must take some serious fucking brainwashing to be able to turn a blind eye to shit like this

Happens all the time. My team can't do wrong, your team is treasonous shit. yadi yada, yadi yada

>You realise you would all look so much better if you too jumped up and said "hey Fuck that guy thats bullshit" and condemed him rather then pretended like nothing was wrong.

innocent 'til proven guilty etc etc. Besides, all I see at the moment is a criminal investigation, not DEMOCRATS COMMITTING TREASON REEEEEE

>I mean jesus fucking christ what the actual fuck is wrong with you?

I think your mum gave me crabs so I'm a bit tetchy these days

>>740251591
>>740251417

some IT staffer laundering money does not even nearly equate the President of the United States

it's just another distraction

>>740251024
The "cure" for gender dsyphoria is to either allow them to look and be treated more like the gender they feel aligned to or wait it out while they progress from child to adult. The implication of these discussions around gender dsyphoria is that having gender dsyphoria (aka wanting to be the other gender) is the problem and not all the social structures in the way preventing that from being a viable option.

I feel that gender dsyphoria affect people the same way being born extremely short (and you want to be tall), extremely ugly (and you want to be beautiful) , or with a small penis (and you want a big penis) affects your mental health. In that the thing truely want is something you could never have. The only difference between gender dsyphoria and what I listed is that gender dsyphorics have an option to pursue the gender they want( but of course that option is not socially accepted). I feel the only comparable thing to this is women seeking plastic surgery, I would say they have the same type of mental illness as gender dsyphorics.

>>740237896
They discharge pregnant women for that exact reason

>>740250960
thank you and enjoy your freedom that is universal to you and you don't need anyone to guard this privilege

>>740250436
>>740250625

well if you truly believe that all 15,000 were transgenders wanting to try out a social experiment and therefore joined the army then you are free to believe that. I suspect that you are wrong but I can't be arsed to do any research to back up my suspicion.

I am not a liberal and where you live is of little interest to me, unless you lived in an army barracks or something in which case perhaps that would add something to the discussion. Liberal fuckers may be mental but then again vague generalisations form some random anon on the interwez doesn't really affect me or my perception of the world too much.

In regards to my question if you served I was going to follow that up with why did you serve? I had no intention of trying to tell you that you don't know what its like. You need to chill with the defensiveness there bud.

So why did you enlist? And why do you think that your motives with enlisting are different from 15,000 other individuals motives with enlisting?

I am not american so the battalion I serve with is not going to matter too much to you and it has very little bearing on the discussion. As I said, I am only curious as to why you think that your reasons for joining are any different from a trans persons reason for joining

>>740251699
I'm aware of that. What people don't seem to realize nowadays is that it's possible to look at more than one issue at a time, and be pissed at both sides simultaneously. The staffer laundering money definitely doesn't clear Trump of wrongdoing, but the fact that Trump is a shitlord doesn't give the staffer a free pass to break the law, either. They both need to feel judgement.

And I just love the thought of Hillary getting dragged down to a watery grave with broken servers weighing her down. But maybe that's just the part of me that's still bitter and angry that she managed to blow what should have been a landslide election and hand all three branches of the government to the right on a silver platter.

>>740252070
Tell that to the 1.4 million homeless veterans. We treat our dead soldiers like kings and we ignore those that make it back from hell.

I have no clue if it is a result correlation or causation but the military has a disturbing amount of mentally ill people.

if he stopped all the mentally disabled people from joining we have no one in the armed forces

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>>740236292
>WAIT
do people say that using the army, federal government and tax payers in one nice scheme to obtain the coverage to transgender is actually bad? while not doing your job which is being a soldier because either way no one really needs army because the Constitution will be protected by long arguments when the foreign forces invade this country people are so god damn stupid privileges scumbags that dropping dead is an actual contribution for the society

>>740243079
President shit for brains is costing us $3 million per trip to Florida. Let's get rid of him.

And the mentally ill aspect hasn't been a psychiatric disorder for 40 years. He's taking us back to the 1500's when homosexuality was a crime. Most of us have evolved since then

The US military is just a jobs program at this point.

>>740252273
I don't believe that your arn't a liberal.
I joined up to kill rag heads and make sure they never thought about fucking with america again.

I lived in barracks both tours.
I can guarantee you having a bunch of trannies ealking around would not make things easier.
Think about the mental state of a tranny. Shit just think about the mental state of a woman. Neither can handle an authoritarian style command from anything without self destructing.
The military is autoritarian and ranked by neccesity to make swift and decisive moves in time critical and team critical situations when there is zero time for debate or argument in the time of war.
Can you imagine a bunch of women and trannies dealing with that?
Because I sure fucking can't.
A woman could be on fire and she'd wanna argue with you about which water source you should get water from to put the damn fire out.
Mentally unstable as fuck

>>740251891
Not accepting the gender you're born with is the problem. It's denying reality and attempting to bend the world to personal feelings and beliefs.
I have things about myself physically I would like changed, but I accept my body as is and even if offered, I would not have surgery to change it. That's the norm. Every tranny I've ever met I treat with respect and call them whatever it is they want to be called, and everyone I know does the same. The social stigma is so minimal in civilized society it's laughable at this point.
Your last point about women and plastic surgery I agree with though.

>>740236292
If mentally unstable people were barred from the military, there would be no more military

>>740252999
There are plenty of mentally unstable people in the military sure.
Some are just nentally unstabel to a point where they get in the way.
Others mental dysfunction allows them to operate as effective soldiers.
Thats the difference between a soldier and a tranny

>>740243079

>I think they cost the US military upwards of an extra $10 million

the highest estimate is $8.5 million

In context, the US army spends $84,0 million on viagra

I like your bleeding out transpeople fan fic though. I couldn't cum to it but I got pretty lose. You should consider a career in writing

>>740240749
I was about to enlist, but I'm allergic to bee's, so they refused to take me in.

Fuck mentally ill trannies.

>>740242496
Fucking retard

>>740252805
>I don't believe that your arn't a liberal.

And I don't believe in father christmas. what difference does it make if I believe in the curtailing of personal liberties for the sake of strengthening the government. I believe in absolute enlightened despotism. I think that individuals should not be allowed too much liberty or the fabric of society collapses. Liberals are misguided halfwits at the best of times and dangerous anarchists at the worst.

>I joined up to kill rag heads

And you do not think that any of the 15,000 transgender people joined up to also kill ragheads?

>I can guarantee you having a bunch of trannies ealking around would not make things easier.

Would not? How have your experiences with trannies been like? It sounds as if you haven't really fought alongside any, and that a lot of this is just hyper-masculine speculation.

I have served with women who have been very adept at taking and receiving orders. Again, different armies I suppose. I shudder to think what sort of women you yanks bring to the front line. Sassy black ladies who don't tae no shit from noone I bet.

>Can you imagine a bunch of women and trannies dealing with that?
>Because I sure fucking can't.

Again, a lot of imagining. What have your real life experinces been, aside from those in your head I mean?

>>740236292

Trump - Triggering leftist snowflakes since 2016.

#MAGA

>>740248771
economists did save the economy. and they wanted a way bigger stimulus than republicans were willing to tolerate, and way bigger than what we eventually got. then the obamas economic policies put us on a moderate recovery for 7 years. because his policies were just that moderate. cuckservatives just got pulled so far right by tea baggers that now they preach for the death of america's government. sad.

>>740254043
>They wanted a way bigger stimulus
Aka they wanted a higher return on investments.
>higher return is in direct correlation to higher risk
>Hey guys I know the economy is in the shitter so instead of moderate growth lets just put every think on black and hope the fucking wheel spins our way.

>>740253919
Fair enough. After that i believe you.

Nope I think they joined up to prove a point.

Have I worked along side some? Yup. They mostly got in the way and if anybody did anything the disagreed with they would instantly start crying discrimination when it had nothing to do with that. Then PO's have to come in and do investigations and tie everybodies shit up only to confirm that yup standard procedure was being followed and the tranny was acutual just a fucking tard.
In the barracks we all shit sleep shower and eat right next to each other. Which I personally have no issue with. But when the tranny starts calling for their own private restroom and showers in gets in everybodies fucking way. We don't have the time, money, or resources to devote to making 1 person feel comfortable. We are at war.

>i imagine something different then you because I was raised in a calley of rainbows and sunshine.

I'm starting to think you are a liberal again

>>740253919
What you are arguing for is practically the same as arguing for a donkey to fight im the war.
Sure we could spend 200,000 training a donkey to bum rush the enemy and attack but it is just utterly imfuckingpractible to do. Trannies are not ideal hardened soldiers.
They are trannies.

>>740254549
its not gambling is economics. the stimulus working wasn't a 50/50 shot. it was always going to do something to counteract the tailspin, just how much money was it going to take to stave off a depression. economists said like 1.5 trillion, publicans balked and we got like 700 billion. it was enough and there's no way to know if more would have fueled a stronger recovery.

>>740255160
your generalizations are prejudiced

>>740240579
>combat-stress linked erectile dysfunction is a real thing, but we shouldn't care

Wow, what an insightful opinion. Tell me more about how combat related issues shouldn't be the responsibility of the military to treat, but sex reassignment and hormone replacement should be footed even though it has nothing to do with combat

>>740253266
>viagra treats combat related erectile dysfunction
>that $8.5mil. is for an estimated 2,500 people

I would love to read an expose regarding how the US military knows it's causing erectile dysfunction in soldiers and refuses to cover the costs of treating/compensating for that.


Quick question (somewhat serious). Does the military have to pay for a female soldier to get breast implants if she just REALLY wants them?

>>740255528
Yeah and YOU are using anecdotes to argue against generalizations.
Which is a logical fallacy.


>hey guys the sky is so blue today!
>Acktuallffyfyffyy the sky does turn a tint of red when the sun sets some evenings if you watch the horizon SO THE SKY ISN'T BLUE HAHA I WIN THE ARGUEMENT.
Thats you faggot

trans medical care will increase the military's medical expenditure budget (not overall budget) .04 to .13 percent. a joke of a cost cutting measure. wonder what the real reason is?

>>740236292
The best thing of all is now all the Democrats in the Midwest have to try and defend these trannies.

So much for that "better deal" re brand huh loonies.

>>740256506
Kek

>>740256738
your mental illness and theirs

>>740256506
i didn't argue anything, I'm not the samefag you were responding to. just wanted to make sure you knew you were stereotyping people, and it seems like you do and are comfortable with that.

>>740253266
>8.5 million
> not even for 0.1% of the entire fighting force
>61% suicide rate
>implying all 4000 of these fucks are even combat MOS
>implying they are even good at PT
Sorry anon but I don't see how the military is now any less effective. Totally take my boner pills tho

So how many post op trannies end up regretting their decision? I think that is a very large gorilla in the room.

>>740256946
being trans is not a mental illness

>>740257269
Color blindness and being deaf aren't mental illness, still can't serve tho

>>740257171
it's not less effective, or more effective. but it is less american

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>>740257269

>>740236292
doing gods work you say?

>>740236565
...And those people are denied entry or kicked out of service. What is your point?

>>740257425
but those things inherently make you less effective as a soldier. being trans doesn't