ask ANTIFA member anything

How much does welfare pay in your state?

>>740166473
how hard was it to tell youre family that youre gay?

>>740166631
very little, 360 euro a month

>>740166647
not gay

>>740166473
How does it feel to fight for your own enslavement,and alos how much does soros pays you?

>>740166769
why hide in the closet?
its much more accepted these days, especially in antifa circles

>>740166473
how does it feel knowing you're a worthless sack of shit who makes zero contribution to todays society?

>>740166796
shit, didn't receive a check. not a conspiracy theory buff myself

>>740166473
Out of all the metal gear characters, wby did you choose to cosplay as pycho mantis?

>>740166972
"They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society." Margaret Thatcher

>>740166473
How does it feel to be a sheep in wolves' clothing? How does it feel to know that while you're good against unarmed, good natured civilians but against a legitimate soldier such as myself you wouldn't survive?

How does it feel to be a fascist ?

>>740166473
Super liberal values means beating people up till they are accepting of peoples freedoms till you are accepting of peoples freedoms?

>>740167236
the line between a civilian and a combatant is a very blurred one,being a legitimate soldier youself, you shoud know it. if nothing else most civilians are armed with cellphones with which they call on cops

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>>740167518
>The line between civilian and combatant is a very blurred one.

Bait

>>740167420
we are not liberals. people are not free. many love their chains, resentful of the escapee salve, snitches.

>>740167518
You are absolutely correct. However, what's the average police response time in your area?

Not faster than the muzzle velocity of my M&P.

>>740166473
Do you fear and/or dread your inevitable execution along side all other progressive left groups?

>>740167748
i live in Athens, Greece. neighborhood of exarchia, google it. we drove off the cops.

>>740166473
Well, ANTIFA doesn't call themselves members.
It's not a club.

>>740167864
not really, but prison is a somewhat a frightening prospect

>>740167936
"a participant" better?

Why do you do what you do?

>>740168161
i love the feeling of freedom

>>740167902
I live in Columbus Georgia... that shit don't fly here, boy.

I fucking dare ANTIFA to try something here.

How does it feel knowing that its just a matter of time before you get beat by a nice fashy man

>>740166473
I know what the FA means... that you're fascist. But what does the ANTI mean? So confusing!

>>740167216
Nigga fuck outta here with that Margaret Thatcher bullshit, fuck margaret thatcher

>>740168364
theres a little antifa guy in all of us, even in you, a sleeping little "terrorist" a "communist", even in georgia, why you think NSA is reading your emails?

>>740166473
Will you kill an entire antifa rally if I ask nicely?

Do you truly believe that anarchy is a good thing?

>>740168391
it is what it is, war is war, if you dont stand for something youll fall for anything

>>740168593
sure, the real anarchy is the anarchy of power, why should they have all the fun?

>>740168662
a fucking scam man

>>740166473
Why are you such a huge faggot?

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>>740166473
:^)

>>740168754
Care to explain anarchy of power?

>>740166473
How do you feel about the antifa in America getting paid to disrupt certain events? Surely this is a contradiction of what you stand for

>>740166473
What's it like being a failure as a LARPer?

>>740168888
maybe its all that teargass, nothing wrong with ass fucking though, different strocks ...

do you still live with your parents?

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>>740168939
Here is one from Brazil. The communist protester died from the police baton blow.

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>>740166473
would you cease participating with and supporting the group calling themselves antifa?

>>740169078
i live in a squat. half of this neighborhood is squated, no rents, but you keep on working and being a good boy little friend

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>>740169106
>The communist protester died from the police baton blow.

Glorious

>>740169135
and what? take antidepressant pills like half of /b/ fags here? fuck that. i say, destroy what destroys you.

>>740168955
Benjamin wrote once that nothing is so anarchical as the bourgeois order. In the same sense, Pasolini in his last movie has one of the four Salò masters saying to their slaves: “true anarchy is the anarchy of power.” It is precisely because power constitutes itself through the inclusion and the capture of anarchy and anomy that it is so difficult to have an immediate access to these dimensions; it is so hard to think today of something as a true anarchy or a true anomy. I think that a praxis which would succeed in exposing clearly the anarchy and the anomy captured in the governmental security technologies could act as a purely destituent power. A really new political dimension becomes possible only when we grasp and depose the anarchy and the anomy of power. But this is not only a theoretical task: it means first of all the rediscovery of a form-of-life, the access to a new figure of that political life whose memory the security state tries at any price to cancel.

https://roarmag.org/essays/agamben-destituent-power-democracy/

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>>740169664
thats nice, but really, most young people have no future, our movement is growing.

>>740169028
its bullshit, aint nobody getting paid for rioting

>>740169664
the very fact that people like him cant afford to rent a place of thier own is a good reason for a revolt

>>740169106
All for treating violent leftist scum in this manner, hope the cop got a promotion!

>>740169614
So do you think everything will be "A-okay" after there is no more government or people in power?

>>740166473
Fucking kill yourself you filthy fucking kike-puppet

>>740166473
what are you

>>740170382
i dont think it, i live it.

https://vimeo.com/224051475

>>740170382
An Egyptian writer, a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, wrote in the now-distant days of the first Tahrir square: “The people I saw on Tahrir Square were new Egyptians, having nothing in common with the Egyptians I was used to dealing with every day. It was as if the revolution had created Egyptians in a higher form […], as if the revolution had not only rid Egyptians of their fear but also cured them of their social defects. […] Tahrir Square became like the Paris Commune. The authority of the regime collapsed and the authority of the people took its place. Committees were formed everywhere, committees to clean the square and committees to set up lavatories and washrooms. Volunteer doctors set up a field hospital.” In Oakland, the Occupy movement held Oscar Grant Plaza as the “Oakland Commune.” In Istanbul, no better name could be found, already in the first days, than the “Taksim Commune” for what was coming into existence there. A way of saying that revolution was not something that Taksim might lead to one day, but its existence in actuality, its ebullient immanence, here and now. In September, 2012, a poor Nile Delta village, Tahsin, 3,000 inhabitants, declared its independence from the Egyptian state. “We will no longer pay taxes. We will no longer pay for schools. We’ll operate our own schools. We’ll collect our garbage and maintain our roads ourselves.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-invisible-committe-to-our-friends#toc30

Have you beaten any nazis?

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look at the smile on this guy's face. it must be fun cracking communist skulls

>>740170815
not me personally, but here in greece there is a strong neo nazi movement, we fight them all the time, they even shot at our squat a few years ago. they killed an antifa rapper. we killed a couple of them, its crazy here. real civil war, a latent one. im not native to this place so im not at the center of things here

>>740170815
half of the cops voted for "golden dawn", cops and nazis are practically the same

>>740166473

What's your socioeconomic status? You know there's no fascists and that you guys are the baddies, right?

>>740170999
you a snitch? run to mommy-daddy little fucker?

>>740166473
Does the cognitive dissonance of being an anti-fascist fascist ever hurt your head?

>>740166473
How far under average is your IQ?

>>740171336
sure there are facist, i have about 6000 euros and the cloth on my back. shit, im richer then all those americans who have student debt and cant find jobs. what do we have to lose huh? your parents are rich?

>>740169106
That's a long yellow light.

>>740169106
>The communist protester died from the police baton blow.
Poor guy just wanted to kill and lock up everyone that disagreed with his political opinion until he got free shit for life off the backs of the working class.
y they do this?

>>740171470
stop it, liberal. people fight for the thing they belive in, sometimes physically, that dont make the fascists, not necessarily

>>740171211
Well, obviously. Cops need some excuse that will allow them to sleep at night - and nation might be pretty good one for that.

Do you believe in expropriation of private property? Land? Other means of production? Machines?

>>740171724
what makes you think hes not working class?

>>740167518
And in America a whole shit load of people carry not just a phone, but a gun too. What's going happen to your movement when they attempt to start shit with a group who's marching for pro 2nd amendment?

>>740171764
Well you're using violence in support of the corrupt state, very similar to a fascist.
I'd say that makes you a fascist.

This post gave me cancer.

>>740171859
There are no working class communists, communists don't work.
I actually work in a factory all day while you fags are out larping.

>>740168497
They want to make sure that we don't begin to plan what T. Jefferson said needs to happen every so often to keep the people in power in check.

>>740170774
Communes only work for small communities that don't have to worry about external forces. You can't just take an entire country and then "BAM" no government. Even if you were to somehow get rid of government with out a bloody revolution, you could never maintain it. If the country was broken up into small communes, they would eventually start fighting for resources.

Anarchism sounds good on paper, but you have to take out human nature to have it work nicely.

>>740166473
are you from Germany?

>>740171787
of course, i live in a squat, an expropriated building. we drove the cops off this neighborhood, we are always seeking to expropriate. we want it all. we need everything.

>>740171578
My parents are not. Nor were their parents. There are no fascists on the U.S. Antifa here is just am excuse for the middle class college kids to LARP and trash shit. It's retarded.

>>740171859
If he was working class he would be at work and not crying for handouts in the street.

>>740171889
thats for the comrades in america to answer. less i cheked, they dont ask for your political disposition at the gun store

>>740171917
anarchist "in support of the corrupt state"? give me a break. stop listening to alex jons and his conspiracy theories

>>740166473
why don't u kill urself, kike?

>>740166473
No. Just want to let you know you're an idiot and I'd break your face if you were in front of me, faggot.

>>740171975
well, work had my man, dont get lazy. your boss needs that surplus value. better yet go to sleep. the internet is unproductive.

>>740172423
You're fighting for the establishment.
Not my fault if you weren't paying attention and didn't realize what you signed up for.
Plus you guys don't even attack in conservative areas, you punish liberals and turn them to our side with actual fascism lol.

>>740172282
No, but antifa is not pro gun either. But more and more states are beginning to relax CCW rules, making it easier to arm yourself away from home. And a few states have, or are considering open carry with out a license needed. An armed society, is a polite society. You and your antics fag friends really gonna start shit with people who might be armed with guns instead of locks and chains? Or will you keep going after old people who can't really defend themselves

>>740172064
Not the OP, here.

Obvious thing about anarchy is that it won't happen via revolution - but rather evolution. If you were to overthrow government, people would reinstall it - because they were convinced it's the right way. But with gradual dissolution of state and parallel substituting it's structures by voluntary cooperation, the transition will be an easy one

What makes you think that communes wouldn't trade and cooperate among themselv?

I hope you die of cancer

>>740172612
My boss is a local guy, used to be a welder before he invented something, started a business that employs hundreds of people in a small dying town, and uses large chunks of the profits to improve said dying town.
Meanwhile what have you done besides be a fascist relic of a dying idealogy?

>>740172251
It's midnight in Europe.

>>740172064
no such thing as "human nature", animals have nature, humans have history. sure, break up the nation into small communes, its already broken actually, haven't you seen the street clashes? war will always be there, we no pacifist in case you didnt notice

>>740172110
As home-owner, this makes me extremely uncomfortable. My grandparents worked very hard to acquire that house and they wanted me to have it.
You taking it away from me sounds like theft.

Can individual man own something on his own? Can i own my clothing, my computer? Or should they all belong to some super-entity? Can i own myself? Can i kill myself?

>>740166473
Why do some dentists offices refuse to do teeth extractions?

>>740172694
look, trump aint gonna make america great again, what make you think that people are not fed up as it is? civil war is coming one way or another, just pick a side

>>740166473
If you are a communist, Can i fuck your wife? She is not your property

>>740167216
No such thing as society? You might want to check what society means in a dictionary

>>740172867
you are just attributing the towns collective power to a small capitalist. you think here a genius in a town full of fools

>>740172904
Look at who I was replying to. Apparently ANTIFA supporters are against reading comprehension as well.

OP lives in Greece but is so proud of running off the cops. The cops left because they have no monetary support and OPs neighborhood is probably worth more once the idiots starve themselves out so the entire area can be leveled and sold to extra-nationals. This is like being proud that you live in an area of Detroit that is worth nothing. No shit the cops left, there is nothing of value to protect.

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NAZIS WATCH OUT!

>>740167216
Wow, someone said it, it must be true. I guess that means hitler was also right and that is scary. Are you a nazi supporter, that is fucking terrible, you fucking nazi scum

>>740168497
Man, NSA sure is a good service, being able to read trillions and trillions of emails each month

>>740173297
>antifa
>wife
kek, pick one and only one. These edgy tryhard kids are lucky to be not virgins.

>>740173443
My fault. But i am not OP, so...

How does it feel when Tyrone fucks your fat ugly girlfriend? https://youtu.be/C-SsMQMFq8c

>>740166473
How many men is your girlfriend fucking?

>>740173411
The town has no collective power. You think I'd work in a factory for free? Not without a gun to my head, but that's what children like you want.
How many people have to die in the name of communism before you upper middle class faggots will accept we don't want it.

>>740173123
if you want to be a liberal individual, its still possible for now. but its on they way out. you gotta be part of something, a commune. keep your toothbrush, the biggest prison is the "I"

>>740166473
What does your mom pack in your lunch?

>>740173573
hahaha everybody fucks everybody around here. fuck couples

>>740173525
True story, my wife would leave me if I tried that anitifa anti-american shit

>>740173525
I like your thinking , thanks for the smile anon

>>740172867
This is Capitalism at its finest, not Communism. Communism, true Communism, would entail that your boss be a tyrant for making more than is substantial for survival ad be stripped as a capitalist. He would then have to live as menial as possible, like everyone else, so that the "collective(ruling caste)" can live like kings (ex. see Vietnam and Communist Russia)

How did you make 6000 euros?

>>740173655
Wait, wait. Is your anarchism not about individual liberty? What is it about, then?

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>>740173629
upper middle class are communists? fuck off. your town has no collective power becouse its full of resentful slaves, try freeing yourself, thats what i do

>>740166473
How many Jews did you kill today?
Sieg heil! Bless the antifa

>>740166731

>euro

Well that explains a lot

>>740173999
the individual is a liberal inversion, nobody gives birth to themselves. I AM WHAT I AM.” This is marketing’s latest offering to the world, the final stage in the development of advertising, far beyond all the exhortations to be different, to be oneself and drink Pepsi. Decades of concepts in order to get where we are, to arrive at pure tautology. I = I. He’s running on a treadmill in front of the mirror in his gym. She’s coming back from work, behind the wheel of her Smart car. Will they meet?

“I AM WHAT I AM.” My body belongs to me. I am me, you are you, and something’s wrong. Mass personalization. Individualization of all conditions — life, work and misery. Diffuse schizophrenia. Rampant depression. Atomization into fine paranoiac particles. Hysterization of contact. The more I want to be me, the more I feel an emptiness. The more I express myself, the more I am drained. The more I run after myself, the more tired I get. We cling to our self like a coveted job title. We’ve become our own representatives in a strange commerce, guarantors of a personalization that feels, in the end, a lot more like an amputation. We insure our selves to the point of bankruptcy, with a more or less disguised clumsiness.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/comite-invisible-the-coming-insurrection#toc1

>>740174028
Communists are spoiled brats, typically college professors and VERY young and naive college kids.
Working men despite communism. You can tell yourself it's slavery, it's not. You can tell yourself we're misinformed, we're not. Wake up kid, you're in a cult.
Btw, if you think everyone is equal and we're being taken advantage of by the wealthy....why do you treat us with so little respect? It's because you're weak and you resent the light of truth that shows that weakness for all to see.

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>>740174028
>thats what i do

You LARP on the internet and cuck yourself out to would be dictators

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>>740167150
because he sounds and looks like a faggot

>>740173975
i worked at a fucking job

>>740174214
This is retarded because of poor vocab and syntax.
Try to make sense with logical variables next time instead.

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>>740174250

If you really want to understand them, listen to uncle ted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu0zax6EyeY

>>740173272
How the hell did you get trump from what I posted anon? I know there's a civil war coming, you can smell it on the wind. Liberals and their ilk do not believe in individual freedom. They want a one size fits all socioeconomic system in place that's impossible to change. Liberals are some of the most stuck up hard headed people out there. If this country,(usa) was structured the way it was meant to be, we wouldn't have these problems. If you wanted a state that allowed gay marriage, hedonistic festivals and abortion free for all, there would be a state that had that. If you wanted a strict conservative bible based moral state to live in, there would be that too for you to live. But people like liberals and antifa don't want that. They want one law, one ruler, one moral system for 300+ million people, and you cannot realistically have that without killing all the people who don't want that. That's why for communism to come to power they have to eradicate those who don't want it.

Are you actually anti-fascist?

Here in the US Antifa is just a bunch of whiny little faggots that didn't get their way, therefore they assault people, damage property, and try to silence free speech.

Which one are you?

>>740174472
actually ted he was an anarchist. hes taking about liberals really. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-hit-where-it-hurts

>>740174567
They are repressing each other's views by using violence.
They're all the same, fascists

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>so what if communism killed 100 Million people in the last century? Its going to work this time because a bunch of drug addicted crust punk losers are championing it! I cant even hold a job at mcdonalds but Im totally going to create a world wide utopia!

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>>740174655

>clearly talks about leftist, to the point where he specifically says "leftist"

>"HES TOTALLY NOT TALKING ABOUT US EVEN THOUGH ITS COMPLETELY ABOUT US!"

youre retarded

>>740166473
>claims to be anti facist
>doesn't realize fundamental islamists are the biggest facists in modern socierty

Why are you antifas so hypocritical?

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>>740166473
>ask ANTIFA member anything
>cant speak simple fucking english
tl;dr OP is a cnn employ or cuckendorf

>>740174214
I am not really sure i understand your point. Sure, we need to interact with others to live and to live well. I don't see how it contradicts individual liberty

>>740174567
>Which one are you?

thats what antifa is world wide. It was a thing in Europe way before it came to the US as this hilarious farce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVV8lwcXA68

>>740166473
>Antifa member

Pretty much the same as claiming "I am a member of feminism hurr". Pretty cool with your political violence, you gaise shure showed those evil unagree-ers. Great job.

>>740174560
jesus man, how can i say this so you understand... anarchist, antifa dont want no one ruler or one law.. man... communism is having friends, real friends, not just pub buddies, and sharing you life with them... the only one who dont want the are businessman, thier hired politicians and the police, we killing them is what it takes so be it, if slaves are to resentful of those who want to break loose and they ready to pick up a gun becouse they themselves are too fur gone so fuck them too

>>740169106
That's some fucking blow the break a hardwood baton on somebody's face.. I wonder what it sounded like?

>>740174893
...do you even logic?

>>740174893
you know there are antifascist fighting isis right?

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>>740175274
>Communism is about having friends.
This is a great day desu.

>>740175672
and this photo proves what?

>>740166473
No youre just a faggot that crusades for world enslavement. Kill yourself you cunt.

>>740175541
I think you misspelled "military".

>>740175748
It proves many things

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>>740166473
Are you actually antifa? I ran with ARA in the 80s and put a lot of boneheads in the hospital. In those days you had to track down a bonehead and put the boots to him by yourself to prove you could handle yourself in a fight before they'd let you join. I've heard that things are different these days, and that a lot of antifa are campus radicals, peaceniks, and Trots. Most antifa in my era were crusty punks, anarchists, and a few unreconstructed Stalinists.

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>>740175748
>implying pic has to be related
>newfag found

>>740176062
You're even worse.
I've met your kind, they were pitiful.

>>740176136
Kek exactly

>>740175166
ust as paradoxically, the individual is discovered to be so unindividual that sometimes the suicide of a single one can collapse the whole edifice of social untruth. Mohamed Bouazizi’s gesture involving self-immolation in front of the Sidi Bouzid prefecture is sufficient evidence of this. Its explosive power is due to the potent affirmation it contains. It says, “The life laid out for us is not worth living,” “We weren’t born to let ourselves be humiliated like that by the police,” “You can reduce us to nothing, but you’ll never take away the share of sovereignty that belongs to living beings,” or “Look at us little people, barely existing, humiliated, see how we’re beyond the miserable means by which you cling to your sick man’s power.” That is what was distinctly heard in the gesture. If the televised interview, in Egypt, of Wael Ghonim after his secret incarceration by the “services” had the effect of reversing the situation, it’s because a truth broke through his tears and also exploded in the hearts of everyone. In the same vein, during the first weeks of Occupy Wall Street, before the usual movement managers instituted their little “working groups” responsible for preparing the decisions which the assembly would only need to approve, the model for the speeches made to the 1500 persons present was the guy who stepped forward one day and said, “Yo! What up? My name is Mike. I’m just a gangster from Harlem. I hate my life. Fuck my boss! Fuck my girlfriend! Fuck the cops! Just wanted to say, I’m happy to be here, with you all.” And his words were repeated seven times by the chorus of “human megaphones” that had replaced the microphones prohibited by the police. The true content of Occupy Wall Street was not the demand, tacked onto the
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-invisible-committe-to-our-friends#toc6

>>740175274
Jesus fuck man, how can I break it down so your dumb ass can understand it. If I work, I work for my benefit, NOT yours, or your cock holstered boyfriend. Under communism, what I make is taken from me and I get just enough to survive on. I don't want that. I work to make MY life better, not yours and your "hurr durr, communism is great" circlejerkers. You call me a slave, if I can't have what I work for, (under communism) then I'm just a slave to the state instead, and there's no where else I could go for a better job, because the state sets EVERYTHING, including where I can work. Fuck you, fuck communism,fuck liberals, and fuck antifa. I will die on my feet before I live on my knees in a communist country. Why can't you?

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>>740176487
You think I don't know (?)
Oh well, take your pussy hands off the keyboard child.

>>740176062
I bet you are one of those old wannabe communists who start shit at pubs and always ends up getting his ass kicked. The 80s are over, grandpa

>>740176316
thats not communism, and you dont work for youself, you work for your boss, you get exploited. if you really worked for you and your friends you wouldn't even receive a paycheck, there wouldn't be money is the world

>>740166473

What was it like the first time your daddy raped you? What is it like to fuck your mother? What is it like to find out everyone fucks your mother?

>>740170774
Communes works great but only for original set of volunteers.
Their kids, or next generation or whatever member of commune who do not share the original beliefs would not accept the obligation to work for commune they do not want to belong to.

It happens because of human nature and basic human feeling of freedom. We are different, because different are our set of needs and more because are different way to achieve it.

It happened in russian communes, it happened in Israelian agrarian communes, it happened in hippie communes in US.

Anarchist communes do not work longer than time of involvement of initial participants.

>>740168939
Lovely, got anymore?

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>>740176692
I'm a mutualist anarchist and a card-carrying Wobbly. I've spent the last 25 years as a professional shit-disturber and community organizer, and I'm still facing down company goons on hard pickets. I have to admit I'm not on the front lines at protests any more, though; I kept getting older while the riot cops stayed the same age. The broken bones don't heal the way they used to. Now I do a lot of organizer training, teaching the next generation how to fuck shit up.

Antifa is garbage

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>>740177146
Seconding.

>>740176765
Communism, you work to help benefit the group.
Capitalism, you work for the betterment of yourself.

See the difference? The only difference is who owns the means of production. An individual, or the state. I'd rather work for an individual who if he doesn't pay me what I think I deserve, I have the freedom to go somewhere else and earn more. If the state owns it, I have no freedom, except what the state decides I should have.
Fuck your dumb. And so are your professors.

>>740176868
actually native americans lived in communes, sure people traveled, sometimes went off to different tribes, but the communist way lived on. until the white man cam, but its OK we are the new natives, the final upsurge, and we are restless as never before

>>740177146
>>740177254
Heh, I love that you squeaking little /pol/tard basement troglodytes hate antifa. It tells me they're doing good work. Rub your mad spot, little RWAs, and remember to stay hidden behind your keyboard where it's safe -- because we own the streets.

>>740177081
the struggle never stops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh1PIvbwpS4

>>740177515
I fucking hate antifa because I've met them around 2004, those hateful, racist fascists.
Fuck off inhumane hateful animals

>>740177515
Hitler would be proud.

>>740172110
Why you are in such despise for police? This is the force that most people have respect for. They are peacekeepers, they protect the order set by law and catches everybody who violates the law.
The order helps them to live peacefully, you know, going to job without fear that somebody could just break into your house and take your food out of you refrigerator.
Why you don't like the coppers?

They are quite contributing to society.

>>740177515
Up until the real adults tire of you fake ass maggots beating helpless old people down. Then we will arm up, come outside and paint our towns in the blood of sheep. Come to TN and try your shit. I dare you. And don't hide in University towns either. Go out into rural TN.

>>740177317
no individual, or the state but the COMMUNE

>>740172925
There is such a thing as human nature. It may not be as evident in this technological age we live in, but it exists

>>740177837
laborers has many “manufacturing advantages” where “the improved health of the work people [is] attended by more energy and better labour; by less of lassitude and waste from relaxed attention; by fewer interruptions from sickness, and fewer spare hands to ensure the completion of work.” To call the police “pigs” is structurally and historically correct. House pigs were kept in the Victorian household to eat and clear whatever was considered refuse and waste from domestic property. The police are similarly tasked with cleaning up the wild and unclean refuse of civil society. The police treat filth as something to be managed, thus creating a structural fluidity between disease and disorder. The fluidity between trash and disorderly elements and individuals is essential and cannot be separated. When sickness and filth are considered types of social wickedness, then “sanitation” is two-sided: it must heal the sick and control the wicked. According to Robert Cowan, the 19th century Professor of Medical Jurisprudence and Police at the University of Glasgow, “Powers should be given to remove filth of every description daily, and proper conveniences, constructed of durable materials and under the charge of the police, should be erected in the localities occupied by the working classes.” More recently, the Ottawa Charter for Health Promotion called for the creation of “health-promotive environments,” which would require political action: “Political change is a necessary component for the success of many multilevel behavioural change interventions.” The structural connection between sanitation and order explains the relative frequency with which one hears police officers talk about “criminal scum” and “dirtbags.” This language is structurally coherent with the fundamental tasks of the police: clearing the earth and its good order of those disgusting and diseased people who impede it

>>740172925
>no such thing as "human nature"

well, you are denying the biology

>>740177837
https://belliresearchinstitute.com/2017/04/21/the-savage-peace-ii-management-oikonomia/

>>740173655
>gotta be part of something
>can't be part of your town
I'm at a loss for words

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>>740166473
So how does attacking horses with spiked clubs and shivs represent your "anti-fascist" message?

>>740177515
I actually chose some military training because of you and I think that's quite sad.

>>740177863
Commune, the stand in for a central governing body of individuals. Sounds like a state to me. At least the way I'm defining it.

>>740178185
Under capitalism, daily life consists of related activities which reproduce and expand the capitalist form of social activity. The sale of labor-time for a price (a wage), the embodiment of labor-time in commodities (saleable goods, both tangible and intangible), the consumption of tangible and intangible commodities (such as consumer goods and spectacles)--these activities which characterize daily life under capitalism are not manifestations of "human nature," nor are they imposed on men by forces beyond their control.

If it is held that man is "by nature" an uninventive tribesman and an inventive businessman, a submissive slave and a proud craftsman an independent hunter and a dependent wage-worker, then either man's "nature" is an empty concept, or man's "nature" depends on material and historical conditions, and is in fact a response to those conditions.

>>740166473
Are you a Jew?

>>740178873
my grandfather was

>>740174028
>full of resentful slaves
>try freeeing yoself

well, when i am free i can make my own decisions.
And what when I make decision to work?
Then I am slave?

Slaves cannot decides of themselves, you fuckwit.

>>740179034
You like taking risks?

>>740177412
You do know native Americans fought plenty of wars against one another right? The same would happen, which was stated above. The communist would fight due to limited resources and or differing ideas. Jesus open a fucking book

claims to be against facism by trying to brat the shit out of any one who does not share their (antifa's) opinions. By far one of the most retardedly hypocritical thing i've seen

May the holy antifa kill all Jews and Muslims for the glory of the Aryan race.

>>740179258
the experience is an indelible part of the individual’s past but it does not determine his future; the individual is free to choose his future; he is even free to choose to abolish his freedom, in which case he chooses in bad faith and is a Salaud (J.P. Sartre’s precise philosophical term for a person who makes such a choice [The usual English translation is ‘Bastard’]).

>>740179466
There will never be peace on earth. Abandoning the idea of peace is the only real peace. Faced with the Western catastrophe, the left generally adopts the position of lamentation, denunciation, and thus helplessness, which makes it loathsome in the eyes of the very ones it claims to be defending. The state of exception in which we are living shouldn’t be denounced, it should be turned back against power itself. We will then be relieved in our turn of any consideration for the law—in proportion to the impunity that we claim, and depending on the relative force that we create. We have an absolutely clear field for any decision, any initiative, as long as they’re linked to a careful reading of the situation. For us there is now only a historical battlefield, and the forces that move upon it. Our range of action is boundless. Historical life extends her arms to us. There are countless reasons to refuse her, but they all spring from neurosis. Confronted with the apocalypse in a recent zombie film, a former United Nations official comes to this clearheaded conclusion: “It’s not the end, not even close. If you can fight, fight. Help each other. The war has just begun.”

>>740175274
Its like talking with ancaps.

If no govt, and all the more, no private companies
WHO GONNA BUILD FUCKING ROADS

AND NO, FIXIE BIKE DO NOT SOLVES THE PROBLEM OF FUCKING INTERSTATE FREIGHT

>>740179582
What's your choice then?

Or you have more conviction than direction?

>>740179778
True, true, Savage but, True.

>>740176316
>eagle screeching in distance
>star spangled banner waves behind anon

>>740179755
You totally missed the point. You tried to use native americans as a show of communes working, then blame "the white man" for their failure. While also previously saying communes would work together and not fight for resources. BUT YET YOUR VERY EXAMPLE SHOWED COMMUNES FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER

>>740166473
If your government was to turn into a dictatorship that executed their political enemies, would you join forces with right wingers to liberate your home?

>>740179778
who builds roads? CEO? has trump lifted a brick in his life? if not why are those towers named after him? we are attributing our power to an orange clown, and fuck Hilary too.

So if you want no law, no government etc. Can we just murder you and be done with this shit?

>>740180217
You do understand that building a road, a real road, one that does not fall apart at the first sprinkling of rain takes more than a couple mouth breathers who think they are anarchists right?

>>740167902
i think that was just the refugees raping people

>>740180088
thats ok that they fight each other. people are different, the point is that there will be no hegemony, wars will go on and its fine. there will never be one pacified unified humanity

>>740167902
Fucking racist, sexist and fascistic animals.

>>740180128
its possible

>>740180233
Yaaas

>>740180526
Then why add to the senseless violence? If it's inevitable as you claim, why participate?

>>740176765
>>740176765
>you dont work for youself, you work for your boss, you get exploited.

Why everybody in your jerkcircle consider everybody as fucking worker and fucking slaves?

If I am a fucking carpenter, and I build wooden construction for them, whose slave I am? I don't hire anybody beside me. I get paid and I can spend it on everything I want.
What communes offer for people like me?

>>740166473
You aren't true anarchy because you are a group. You fight fascism by silencing others. How feel to completely contradict yourself?

>>740180384
workers and engineers build roads, the anarchist job is to politicize them, make them a party in a civil war. actually infrastructure is used as a weapon many a times

>>740170152

The reason people can't afford rent nowadays is because of the basic economic principle of supply and demand.

Basically, there are too many people and not enough homes, so the price goes up preventing poorer people from affording a home.

Yet it's you left wing faggots who constantly whine about wanting open borders and advocating for more immigration.

Get fucked filthy commie scum.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>740180233
you can try but i have friends man. organize youself

>>740180049
It actually comes from an old Yiddish saying.

>Better to die on your feet then to live on your knees

>>740177412
>Injuns were fighting against other tribes for better territories
>Injuns chose their leaders
>Injuns get the thing of private property. Own weaponry, utensils, women.
>They were "communes" mostly because they were family groups, hierarchical btw

>>740180716
BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CHOICE, civil war is a fact of life, war is a fact of life. its no spectacle, you in it even if you just rate dicks on dicktreads all day long. read this https://belliresearchinstitute.com/2017/03/10/the-savage-peace-democracys-2500-years-of-failure-and-the-legacy-of-global-civil-war/

ahahha this faggot wants to try a piece of 4chan magic...boy just the fuck up and go clean some dishes...you know? real work and not hurting people

>>740166473

Are you a socialist by chance?

>>740166473
why do you have to act so overly dramatic during protests? I mean can't you get your point across by just using a microphone and picket sign? why do you have to be violent?

Why do you use fascist tactics to spread your ideology?

>>740166473
Trigger hounds are faggots, faggot.

>>740181396
no one gives a shit about a microphone and picket sign, welcome to 2017

>>740166473
Yeah I have a question...why are Antifa so violent in a protest...if you use violence, your point does not come across...

>>740177863
Who controls the steer of commune?
Democracy?
Rules of majority?

You know, it's simple: commune of 30 people. 50 gallon barrel of water.
15 want to use it for watering the plants
15 want to use it for drinking and feeding the cattle.

Who is in charge of decision?

>>740181646
kek

>>740181616
well there's your problem, then.

>>740178199
The conception on peaceful savages was falsified in like, 1700s, dude.

>>740181673
the one with the gun

>>740181616
no one cares about your stupid shit dirtbag....

>>740181616
no one gives a shit about your facism faggot...welcome to 2017

>>740182052
you gonna care one way or the other nigga

>violence has solved more problems in the history of man then any other form of power.

Mr. Rasczak

The outcome is dependant upon who is more violent

>>740182157
if you piss off many people yes...like you and your buddies have...you just gonna end up dead in the hands of someone...well atleast you will have a taste of your own medicine.

>>740178448
Man.
You getting hungry. You want fill you belly. You want sleep. You want poop. You want feel safe. Keep warm.

That's basic human nature.

We are different, man. Being tribesman and businesman, gatherer or hunter, craftsman or farmer are just our different method to fulfill the same needs of our nature.

>>740182271
"a true exemple of humanity"... wow if you think thats a good way to make a point...I dont even know what to say

>>740182340
shit, man. and miss all those "what antidepressant pills you take?" and dickrate treads on /b/? life a bitch aint it...

>>740182475
just be careful not to go to much in debt to not be able to fulfill those needs, in case trump aint gonna make america great agian, or we might just see you all in black fucking it all up

>>740180217
Who cleans your house? Your mom? Has you ever taken the trash out? If not, why are your house named 'yours'? You are attributing your power to your mom, and fuck you.

I suppose if you hate fascism you're fighting against american left, aren't you? because neoliberalism is an anti-freedom movement

>>740180217
Single question:
Who paid workers for building Trump Towers?

>>740183424
The father who tells his children, “I pay for everything here. My house, my rules!” provides a care for them that also pulls them down to the ground, denying them their own possibilities through the very thing that keeps them alive; likewise the social worker who pities those who can’t feed or change themselves neutralizes any possible political capacity of the cared—for through their aid, transforming them into a “cripple.”

Our highest respect goes to the street medics who work to repair bodies bashed down by batons and tear gas so they can fight again. Surely, we need care. All of us. The approach that sees the police as violent brutes who need to be fought in the street or in the court ignore the degree to which police power offers functional services and creates dependences. Urban violence is unlikely to decline given the savage inequalities of American cities. As it stands, the police reproduce that distribution, maintain its functioning, and tend to its excessive outbursts. Disruption and breakdown, the elaboration and intensification of civil war, opens up to us the possibility of harm, fatigue, and death. Our lives are increasingly managed by the same forces that allow us to live.

>>740166473
When will you show up in Poland? We're moving further and further right and we're itching for some action. Caving your skull in with a baseball bat would make my day:) Do feel invited.

>>740183592
the orange hustler did: e sale of living activity brings about another reversal. Through sale, the labor of an individual becomes the "property" of another, it is appropriated by another, it comes under the control of another. In other words, a person's activity becomes the activity of another, the activity of its owner; it becomes alien to the person who performs it. Thus one's life, the accomplishments of an individual in the world, the difference which his life makes in the life of humanity, are not only transformed into labor, a painful condition for survival; they are transformed into alien activity, activity performed by the buyer of that labor. In capitalist society, the architects, the engineers, the laborers, are not builders; the man who buys their labor is the builder; their projects, calculations and motions are alien to them; their living activity, their accomplishments, are his.

>>740181616
maybe nobody gives a shit about your immature ideology

>>740181840
...aaand you just invented marxism-leninism. Great job comrade, but now get back to work!
Motherland wants more grain!

>>740182271
then why are you whining about violent police?

>>740184033
i was being ironic, how seriously can you even take this discussion? many of the arguments here boil down to "faggot"

>>740183819
Why messing up in Poland? You have decent economy, no mudslimes, no blacks, you army get stronger.

Seriously, Poland and UK after Brexit is only spots in EU not drowning in uncivilized madness right now.

>>740166473
What middle school do you go to?

>>740183645
Children aren't fully developed citizens you idiot. They have to be cared and taught.
They are not fully contributors to the society.

There's a fucking reason that society do not want them to drive cars, get drunked or have a gun before they would understand consequences of their actions, and take responsibility for it.

Your argument are flawed from its beginning.

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>>740166473
Is this your father you cunt???

Τι kαταφερνετε kαταστρεφοντας περιουσια του απλου λαου kαι πως το βλεπετε ηθιkα; (βιτρινες, αμαξια kτλ)

I too like to be angry at nothing in particular

>>740185008
you need to read ivan illich's deschooling society. "childhood" is actually a modern invention. but it doesn't go for "children" alone, its a paradigm, the marginalization of the many from the sphere of politics. the consideration of political resistance as "terrorism" of "hooliganism" "rioting" ect,,

>>740183852
Why you moron only picks up one side of the transaction?

Yes, the accomplishements of architects, engineers, laborers are his.

But HIS fucking money, 'das capital' as you say, is now THEIRS.

Fucking orange hustler have no longer sixteen full grey bags with dollar sign of it. They are now in hands of architects, engineers and laborers.
And they are paying with them for food, whisky, hookers, cars and higher education of their children who are studying liberal bullshit like this in college.

>>740185008
Between 1993 and 2012, there was a seven-fold increase in the number of children under 13 being prescribed antipsychotics. About 63% of those given antipsychotics were for “disruptive behavior disorders” like ODD. By citing low socioeconomic status as a cause for a medical diagnosis and intervention, the police (psychiatrists and school officials here) can avoid it being a cause for a political action, i.e. a riot, sabotage, or student strike. As psychiatrists continue to bicker about what the hell schizophrenia is, what “normality” is, and about how to diagnose anything at all, they are nevertheless comfortable with prescribing aggressive personal therapy for “oppositional” children and antipsychotics for pre-teens.
The most vague and broadly applicable of these diagnoses of control is ADHD. Russell Barkley, one of mainstream psychology’s leading experts on ADHD calls it a “deficit in rule-governing behavior.” This can be virtually anything from making weird noises to standing up too often to hitting others. Adults with authority in our society are unable to ask whether kids are bored because school is awful and boring, whether they are acting out because they recognize that the adults in their lives are suckers and assholes, whether they are depressed because they realize they will grow up and be like them, or whether they aren’t following rules because the rules are bullshit. Instead, they weave a story about “brain chemistry” and categorize anyone who doesn’t respond well to the world they’ve reproduced as “deficient” so they can stuff them full of pills, preparing them for an equally boring future made bearable with alcohol and pornography like that of “normal people.”

>>740169106

That's just silly. His forearm couldn't have been in better position to block the baton, whether it was happenstance or not.

The baton broke and he sustained severe swelling or internal bleeding in arm at most

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>>740166473
Why are you such a cuck? Also, you do know that your the fascist one correct?

>>740185637

and maybe broken thumb

>>740185528
but he fools them, he gives them little pieces of paper, the whole fucking world is at their feet yet he managed to make them believe that little shitty pieces of paper have value

>>740185701
both you and OP are fascists.

>>740185528
and actually you being way too generous with the "food, whisky, hookers, cars and higher education" most of those poor suckers can barely afford healthcare

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>>740185799
No, I'm a Nazi. I'm the best part of Fascist

>>740175672

Communism is about conflict creation

FTFY

>>740186323
said the old uncle tom

Your violent actions make more and more people stand against you and asking for stricter law enforcement/police action. You turn the people against your cause/beliefs

What stops you from leaving the society?You dont like it, it doesnt like you. Go buy a farm house and live peacfully away from most.

>>740186459
people are getting fed up man, antifa is bigger the black clothes. antifa is resistance and it is as diverse as the resistors. we are the future. dont let the media say to you what "the people" think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPdjPaPZC6o&t=229s

>>740186675
we are very greedy, we want it all, revenge too

>>740186799
I am the people, you are not talking to the media. Your resistance shouldnt rely on randomly attacking property just to let your steam off in the heat of the protest.

>>740187035
i cant answer for any act of destruction, true, many are stupidly unstrategic, i dont want to romanticize anything

>>740166473
How does it feel to be a worthless faggot getting cucked by sand niggers?

>>740166473
tell me...if you are so well "educated" and dont trust anyone excepet your buddies...how will you live..in constant fear?

>>740187524
whats fear have to do with it? im less fearful with people who i know i can trust and who have my back and i have theirs. i accept that war is here and am prepared, if i deny it and count on my "innocence" to protect me im as good as nothing, many "innocent" people have it up their ass even though they did it all by the book

>>740166473
How's being fascist like

Being a greek for a bit over 24 years and being neutral with my beliefs,i can understand the mindset of both sides(Antifa / Equivalent far right movement). Its truely remarkable how these people get stuck to these ideas and would blindly do whatever shit they do. Neo fascists praising our race but would break the neck of any greek that supports the old relegion and not christianity. Antifas that are mostly football fans that chose this lifestyle because fuck yeah its nice breaking stuff and picking on fights. I dare you to find a single wall that doesnt have the name of a football team next to the antifa signs. Or a wall that doesnt bear a christian message next to the fascist markings

>>740188060

Antifa and the far right movement are not Equivalent, many golden dawn people are cops, oppressor and oppressed are only Equivalent to a liberal

>>740168364
if they smash up golden donuts Ft Benning will riot

>>740166473
how many mudslimes have you defended today?

Have you lived in a hardcore communist country?
I haven't, i was born in a trans period,yet the impact is still strong(figuring out that our state is actually poor and how our leaders were rich AF happened in late 80's early 90's). You know who wants communism back? Almost nobody,the guys who want it back are mostly millitary, they got free apartments and houses and fucking skyhigh pays and pensions(well some of them,mostly the high position ones). What helped our communism last for that long is that Tito was a natural charmer,everyone except the oposition liked him,yet as soon as he died,HYPER INFLATION
40 000 000 000 for newspaper
Yep, billions. Now it costs 150 RSD.

Communism doesn't end well,ever.

>>740166473

how is Greece these days? hope you guys don't have to deal with migrants on top of the bullshit the EU put you through

>>740187842
dude so far by all the
dehumanizing shit you said...you cant trust anyone becuase in the end it will be a battle royale...you look like you dont listen to yourself

>>740188781
shit, and op and his kind arent helping at all

>>740189031
dayum right

>>740166473
Why are you so violent? You have the right to complain and everything and if you cant do it in a civilized manner move to another country...dont piss of people from there...

>>740188781
its flooded with agreements, the EU told its local branch here to keep then inside and dont let them pass, the goverment puts then in camps, we try to help as much as we can. we occupy empty building and help them out https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/europe/greece-athens-anarchy-austerity.html?_r=0

>>740166473
Can't tell whether this is bait or not but fuck it (probably is bait).

Why are you attacking people who may have some 'controversial' opinions that you personally do not agree with? Instead of having discussions with them about what they think, why do you immediately jump to the conclusion that they are nazi fascists? What ever happened to freedom of speech and actually talking to one another? Surely you people are fascists for beating up, pepper spraying and harrassing innocent people with different viewpoints to yours? I also notice that many antifa members decide to censor what is really happening when people try to record antifa members (covering the camera, attacking cameramen, etc.), do you support them doing this and if so why?

Also, why do you think rioting makes you guys look any better? You're just destroying random people's property and businesses that they probably have worked hard to earn (unlike people such as yourself who don't really work) in the name of "anti-facism". You guys are no better than autistic 4 year olds having temper tantrums in the mall when they do not get what they want, except with a crowd of 1000s of mouth-breathers like yourself.

>man me hate donald trump getting elected
>let's destroy other people's property, blow shit up and attack people on the street. That will surely get people on our side!

If you have a message you want to get across, why not protest to the people in charge rather than bothering everyone else around you?

Also final question, why don't you show your faces you fucking pussies?

how does it feel knowing that your philosophy is so flawed and indefensible that your "comrades" attack those who peacefully criticize ANTIFA?

>>740188986
im not a humanist man, for me there are friends and enemies. its funny that all of you hate on liberals when most of you talk just like progressive humanists liberals yourselves

>>740189266
in your opinion will it ever get so bad that the EU starts sinking the boats?

>>740189779
i dont think so, the EU has this liberal humanist mask to it, ever since the holocaust. besides, ones they start snicking boats many people aint gonna like this and things may get out of hand for the governments

>>740166473
can I beat the shit into you please

what's ANTIFA's issues with bins? In every video I see of you fuckheads protesting, at least one bin is being knocked over and having the shit kicked out of it.

>>740189776
im not a humanist my self too...but doing what you do is just having the number one spot to get shot...leave people alone and let them enjoy living why do you guys have to be so violent...for the attention? you all look like a bunch of white kids whith nazi thinking and anarchist-communist think...antifa is just another example of a group ending up in failure do to their ridiculous thinking and way of spreading that same bullshit

>>740190178
that's a show of respect to the symbol of their ideology I think

>>740189573
https://crimethinc.com/2017/01/26/this-is-not-a-dialogue-not-just-free-speech-but-freedom-itself

>>740190305
No fucking way.. I do feel "enlightened" thx man JK !!
WTF???? does anyone believe that shit...justifing violence is the way to go? WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???

>>740166473
What is your proof of this so call fascism and' '''''''''''institutionalized''''''''''' racism you fight against you cuck

>>740190812
sorry to pop your nice bubble, you you thought you were living in a liberal democracy but you really live in a police state. never mind, go to sleep, when you wake up again it will be just like before

L

M

>>740166473
So do you suck on the bull's balls when he cums inside of your girlfriend?

And will you be raising their children for them?

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>>740191190
Come on, man. You're entitled to your opinion; but let's only use one set of quotation marks...'kay?

>>740191279
next thing you know you will be calling us sheeple

>>740191544
kek, thats pretty original i got say

>>740166769
>not gay
Why so defensive?
Aren't you guys all about genderqueer inclusive trans Islam?