ask ANTIFA member anything

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>>740053433

Did the liberal indoctrination hurt?
How is being a race traitor going for you?

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y do u all wear faggoty costumes

>>740053543
antifascists are not liberals. communists are not liberals.

going great, nothing beats spitting on faces who's membership of some is mandatory

Have you ever seen a dick you didn't want to suck?

>>740053433
Why do you employ the same power logic and call to violence that fascists do, and the only real difference between you and them is your liberal worldview?

Don't you know that means you should be crushed too?

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>>740053433

Shitty troll thread

>>740053874
because we are not fascists, nazis and polish, russian. french and jewish are not equivalent. even though they both were violent. actually only a liberal can assume they are

>>740054081
polish, russian. french and jewish partisans

Have you ever left your mom's basement for anything other than for your faggot rallies?

>>740054550
i live in a squatted house in Athens dumbfuck. we dont pay no rent around here. but you keep working your meaningless job

did you have to work up to sucking so much cock, or did you just jump right in?

>>740054761
wrong thread. im an antifa member not your mother

>>740054081
>>740054081
Yet you greet people who dont agree with you with violence..

>>740053433

What are you gonna do when you have to fight soldier/police with real training instead of angry hicks with signs and you watch all of your faggot friends get capped?

>>740053433
Whats it like being the biggest joke on the internet?

Also whats it like pretending to be the counter-culture? I mean you have all the jew media hollywood and shill corporations backing you up while you tip trashcans and cry.
Also is your hair purple?

>>740054852
we engage in combat with our enemies. not all people who dont agree with us are our enemies, only those who believe in something strong enough to fight for it are. politics is not blubbling until you are old. while cops have the last word

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>>740055084

Xe obviously has rainbow hair to celebrate the power of diversity, any antifa without rainbow hair gets drowned in a kiddy pool full of cum, how do you not know this?

>>740055155
>>740055155
Sounds alot like something a fascist would say to cover up the fact that hes a fascist

>>740055002
If the insurgents’ war against the government
needs to be asymmetrical, it’s because there is an
ontological asymmetry between them, and hence
a disagreement about the very definition of war,
about its methods as well as its objectives. We
other revolutionaries are both the focus and the
target of the permanent offensive that government
has become. We are the “hearts and minds”
that must be conquered. We are the “crowds” that
are to be controlled. We are the environment
in which the governmental agents evolve and
which they mean to subdue, and not a rival entity in the race for power. We don’t fight in the midst
of the people “like fish in water”; we’re the water
itself, in which our enemies flounder—soluble
fish. We don’t hide in ambush among the plebs
of this world, because it’s also us that the plebs
hide among. The vitality and the plundering, the
rage and the craftiness, the truth and the subterfuge
all spring from deep within us. There is no
one to be organized. We are that material which
grows from within, which organizes itself and
develops itself. The true asymmetry lies there,
and our real position of strength is there.

http://bloom0101.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/letsdisappear.pdf

>>740055084
fuck alex jones, go hunt for aliens and leave us grown people be

>>740053433
When is the realization going to kick in that you don't represent the working class and when there is a pushback you little faggots are going to be the first to experience it?

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>>740055387

LMAO you fuckers are the least inconspicuous people on the planet, we can spot you from a mile away by the dyed hair, stench of unwashed human bodies, and scrawny limbs. You can't hide, and we both know you can't fight anyone with real training. You're such a joke. The first thing I'm doing when Trump declares the American Empire is join the national guard so I can crack some ANTIFA skulls

>>740053433
What's it like to the worlds' shittiest LARPer?

>>740054693
/thread
thanks op for clearing up that you are indeed mentally retarded

>>740053433
When you suck dick , do you spit or swallow?

>>740055155
>waah! Cops are bad!
>they don't let me rob, kill, loot and burn as I see fit!

It's a shame riots aren't put down by the military anymore.
You deserve to be machinegunned in the street.

>>740055987
well you just wait for that orange idiot to give you a tums up so you can make a move, fucking house nigga, a grown as man i imagine who cant live witout a premmision from his daddy

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>>740053433
Why cant you guy do anything about /pol/?
Just harass those fuckers away from 4chan, or at least contain them on their goddamn board

>>740055954
The working class is indoctrinated to think that capitalist class doesn't depend on their submission to being wagecucks.

>>740056256
>implying even faggots want to fuck him
Come on now.
They have standards too.

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>this whole thread
>wish i could blame this on summer
>/b/ was never good

>>740055631
Thats all you got hahah?? Your depressing

How does it feel to lose so hard these days?
The right is beating the shit out of you on a regular basis, the public hates you, and the government even has you labeled as terrorists.

>>740055987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPdjPaPZC6o

>>740054693
>squatted house
>pay no rent
um, sire, this is someone's property. Wouldn't it be nice to be grateful and pay him?

>>740053433
would you die for your movement?
if so, can we meet?

>>740056429
Fuck off, you are the sons and daughters of the rich. When you protest you wreck our shit. The working class is happy just as long a they're free enough to spend on what they want and left alone enough to enjoy what it is they chose. The fact you dont get this pretty much proves you're an anxty rich kid who's never worked in your life.

>>740056616
beating us? fuck that. the alt right is weak. sure they label us terrorists but at least we dont drink antidepressant pills like old woman or /b/tards

>>740053433
How do you not understand how hypocritical your groups message is. Truly pathetic.

>>740056371
>a tums up
>house nigga
>grown as man
>cant live witout a premission
Bra-fucking-vo.

It takes talent to be this retarded, but you have apparently learned at the feet of masters and applied yourself diligently to achieve it.

>>740056720
fuck that, he aint put a brick in this place. trump didnt built trump towers, he paid defeated suckers to do it, we no defeated suckers yet nigga

>>740056845
>weak
Not an alt-right member m8, but you guys have been getting BTFO lately by them Nat-Socs.
And wtf do pills have to do with being terrorists?
"Sure, our time is basically over and we become less relevant by the day, but at least we don't take meds."

>>740053433
What is your opinion on Hamburg?
Were you there?
Do you believe that neo-nazis in the crowd induced the violence?

>>740056823
Lol, the illusion of freedom. So to you freedom is working 70+ hours a week in hopes of being able to afford one two day vacation to the next state over while those you work for and the upper echelon literally piss away their money

>>740056816
i am my movement, we are what we are. come to Athens

>>740057127
less relevant? we all over. who you kidding?

>>740057148
we live in a violent world, get over it, kid.

>>740057127
Oh but they do. Lots of them, and often to treat the same mental issues.
They're just not the ones prescribed by doctors to effectively treat said issues.

>>740057274
lol
Someone is stuck in their echochamber.
Just because all your shithead friends think antifa is important doesn't mean you're relevant.
The general public sees you guys as violent children.

>>740057148
Hamburg was great, i wasnt there but the comrades put up a figth against rich scumbags who think they can run shit. expect many more hamburgs , expect resistance

ITT: children who don't know how the world really works and it's subsystems controlled by central authority.

Just get a life.

You will never be free unless you move off the grid 100%.

You will never chAnge the true force of power in your government.

>>740057149
No my illusion of freedom is working in an industry where I work two week in two weeks off, have been able to buy my own house, holiday house, boat, and when I retire in 15 or so years at age 50 I wont have to spend another day in my life doing what it is I dont want to do. My industry (since kicking you commie fucks out of the unions) has seen no fatalities in the last 6 years in my country and if injured or ill I get my leave and treatment paid for. One of us is a bludger who wrecks peoples shit pretending to be free, one of us is a worker who'll spend the last 20 or more years of his life fishing, and doing whatever it is I want. We all play the game of life, and lets face it rich boy, your choices means you lose.

>>740057464
general public? what is that? public polls? who orders them? "general public" was supposed to elect hilary

>>740057149
Wor you really know nothing about the working class do you? Is everyone in ANTIFA this stupid?

>>740053433
How did Trump become a fascist?
Wouldn't Hillary be more in line with fascism?

>>740053433
If you are anti fascist why do you act like a fascist?

>>740057623
Youre not working class

>>740057631
I AM THE WORKING CLASS

>>740057797
watch this sometime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxKQfTOXpJI&t=122s

>>740057319
seriously? what the fuck do you mean? of course the world is violent, it is a curcial part of our existence.

>>740057471
I wouldnt consider it great, no rich scumbag was targeted. It was fun, i give you, altough i was on the other side.

>>740057274
You have been co-opted by one of the two major political parties in the United States. They are using you to attack their opponent.

You are about as independent as the women's movement or the Congressional Black Caucus.

What do you want to be when you grow up?

>>740053433
why do you act out violently against peaceful people who have different opinions?

Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>>740053829
but communists are fascists. how can you be a fascistic antifascist?

>>740057987
you got a point that is valid for a change, collaborating with liberals is dangerous, a betrayal is immanent, we need to derail them, cracking them up, letting the "terrorist" inside them come through.

wtf is antifa

>>740058214
antifanta

>>740057841
Yes I am, My dad was a diesel fitter, Mum a school canteen worker. I started as an apprentice at 16 years old on shit fucking pay and I worked. I spend my time fixing mining equipment and vehicles. Didn't finish high school, never went to uni. Always been a union member. Furthermore my pay, conditions and what I own is fairly average for my industry in my country. I am working class, something you'll never be rich kid.

>>740058170
I realize that in America fascist just means "evil government," but communism and fascism are ideologically quite different.

>>740058170
its called an anarchist.

>>740058250
>didnt finish high school
it shows

>>740058240
kek

>>740058170

fascists use communism and a guise for their corruption. They also use capitalism, theocracy, and national socialism. Fascism is a perversion of ideology. No one would openly support a pro fascist ideology. Fascists use whatever system is in place and warp it for their own means.

>>740054012
how is it a troll thread to make a thread open for discussion on a subject? it would be a troll thread if it was a thread like "Antifa will outbreed the right wing by 2050. why dem right wimon love comie cock capitalist boii" this was literally "I believe this. wanna ska me why?"

op what is antifa

>>740058302
Yep, and I still earn more than you commie and I'll get what I want out of life. Gotta hurt a dumb fuck like me can do better than any of you Antifa fags. I'll achieve my goals, you'll always be irrelevant and impotent.

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>>740058076
This. This is the one question that I think antifa kids like OP need to answer for themselves. Frankly, I've long viewed most of the self-proclaimed antifa crowd as very much 'fa'.

>>740058487
anti fascist.

>>740058658
oh ok

>>740053433
Freedom of Speech is not fascism. Controlling what I say and do is. Your whole operation is an contradiction. You should kill yourself.

>>740058648
that's what i asked the kids that assaulted me and broke my wrist while i was at work, they said they did it to represent the working class, their felons now...

>>740058076
we dont act out violently against peaceful people who have different opinions, opinions are like assholes anyone got one. we act against cops, we dont respect privet property.

>>740058707
The stupid precept “my
freedom ends where that of another begins” is received
today as an unassailable truth. Even John
Stuart Mill, though one of the essential agents of
the liberal conquest, noticed that an unfortunate
consequence ensues: one is permitted to desire
anything, on the sole condition that it is not desired
too intensely, that it does not go beyond the
limits of the private, or in any case beyond those
of public “free expression”.

I am Arab and support American and global Facsism.

I support ORDER AND RULE OF LAW.

And until any of you subhuman prove otherwise, the "fascist " "man" or whatever you call totalitarian police government does it best.

When YOU liberal nuggets and antifa ggots can produce a better working order, then I may listen to you.

>>740056962
The right of property belongs tonthe man who secures it, via accepting the responsibilty of its existence; e.g., upkeep, taxes, et. Whoever you are stealing from (and yes, you are a thief) has accepted that burden, and thus the property is theirs by right. Such is as it has been since the inception of the human race. You are a parasite.

>>740058863
read this
>>740058862
i was putting up vinal siding when a few of antifa kids asked me how i could sleep at night underpaying my employees, before i got the chance to tell them i wasn't the boss they beat the shit out of me and broke my wrist. my boss helped pay the hospital bills as i dealt with them in court, and like they said, they did it to represent the working class.

>>740058265
Communism and fascism are "ideologically different" in the way fire engine red and cherry red are technically different colors.

(From The Library of Economics and Liberty)
In The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics, Sheldon Richman succinctly states: “As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer.” He contends that socialism seeks to abolish capitalism outright, while fascism gives the appearance of a market-based economy, even though it relies heavily on the central planning of all economic activities. According to authors Roland Sarti and Rosario Romeo, “[U]nder Fascism the state had more latitude for control of the economy than any other nation at the time except for the Soviet Union.”

Interestingly, Mussolini found much of John Maynard Keynes’s economic theories consistent with fascism, writing: “Fascism entirely agrees with Mr. Maynard Keynes, despite the latter’s prominent position as a Liberal. In fact, Mr. Keynes’ excellent little book, The End of Laissez-Faire (l926) might, so far as it goes, serve as a useful introduction to fascist economics. There is scarcely anything to object to in it and there is much to applaud.”

…As the effects of the Great Depression lingered, Italy’s government promoted mergers and acquisitions, bailed out failing businesses and “seized the stock holdings of banks, which held large equity interests.” The Italian state took over bankrupt corporations, cartelized business, increased government spending, expanded the money supply, and boosted deficits. The Italian government promoted heavy industry by “nationalizing it instead of letting the companies go bankrupt.”

>>740059066
fuck you and your burden. slave-master-loving-nigga

>>740059235
You are a parasite, gnawing away at the belly of your betters.

>>740058540
Arab Gestapo here.
/thread

>bu bu bu my gender equality degree!!!

>>740056962
do you think its wrong to pay someone else to do delegated work for you, and for you to own the final result of that work? can you think of a better way for doing complex jobs which may never be completed in one persons lifetime without delegation of the work? what about inheritances? do you believe in the concept of generational success?

>>740059098
hey man, i cant answer for those kids. we live in a fucked up world. some people go apeshit with guns in schools.

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>>740055155
well, that's a lie. ever seen the videos of what happened at the rallies? Antifa attacked old people for being proud of their service for their country. they didn't attack anyone. yet Antifa attacked them with a fucking army. let me repeat that. Antifa. attacked. OLD people. why? because they disagreed with you. you hit people arguing with each other with bike locks that could potentially kill a man. you pepper sprayed a woman just for being a Milo fan. she did nothing wrong, she was talking to some dude and she got fucking attacked for wearing her hat. you don't give a fuck though because anyone disagreeing with you or your tactics are Nazis anyways.
>pic related. it's you.

>>740058863 am Arab and support American and global Facsism.

I support ORDER AND RULE OF LAW.

And until any of you subhuman prove otherwise, the "fascist " "man" or whatever you call totalitarian police government does it best

>>740053433
Why are you so fascistic?

>>740059051
Islamofascist. You hate Jews like fascists, too. Get ready for ww3, pal. Y'all going down like those fascist faggots did in the last cockroach eradication cycle.

>>740059368
look man, i believe in communs setting up their own shit and not being exploited. what "complex jobs"?

>>740059459
what about all the other acts of violence? your organization seems to be nothing more than a bunch of kids going around assaulting people you don't like, in that regard you're no different than the assholes you pretend to fight against

>>740059718
Reported.
no advertising my dude. go back to facebook.

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>>740056410
Good luck with that.

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>>740053433
How do you, on the daily, handle being a colossal faggot and a waste of space and air?

>>740059567
>against extremism and extremists
>we engage in combat with our enemies
don't you see it? you are what you fight against

>>740054693
Lowest of the low...

>>740055155
Subhuman am Arab and support American and global Facsism.

I support ORDER AND RULE OF LAW.

And until any of you subhuman prove otherwise, the "fascist " "man" or whatever you call totalitarian police government does it best

Love cops
Love military
Love dead subhuman

Love my new country's federal healthcare.
Love my new countries ability to protect me and my family both socially and domestically.
Love my new country's clean and maintained infrastructure
Love love love my new country's viritually uninterrupted supply of water hear heat and electricity

IF YOU LIVE IN EUROPE OR NORTH AMERICA AND ARE NOT GRATEFUL FOR YOUR COUNTRIES PLZ DIE.

>>740059567
i wouldn't attack no poor old man who thinks he served "his"country. fuck them, most veterans a suicidal alcoholic homeless people

>>740059842
just *so* special and important.

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>>740055155
Top Kek.

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>>740058863
>we dont act out violently against peaceful people who have different opinions
false

>we dont respect privet property
parasite

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>>740060190
those are liberals, we no liberals

>>740059691
shit like large bridges, the economy housing nessecary in some inner cities to fully home the people who live there. tunnels and canals for travel, and manufacturing plants. hell, cars, and any remotely complex tool we use on a daily basis.

theres a lot of different examples, but basically what I'm trying to say is our way of life today just wouldnt work if everyone thought like that.

>>740059671
I'm ok with Jews.
And your cockroach analogy is incorrect and counterintuitive.

Why do you think I hate jews? Because im arab?

That's weird anon. Almost like a prejudice

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>>740060300
Right. You are Commies.

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>>740060418

>>740060306
hey man, who builds large bridges,tunnels and canals for travel, and manufacturing plants? businessman like trump? billionaires?

>>740060306
and why the "people who live there" cant house themselves?

>>740060625
common working folks do, but the question is why do they do it? regardless of whether its right or wrong, people need shit like cars, bridges, tunnels, and canals. No one is going to give up 4 months of their life just for the public good. people dont do things out of the good of their heart. they do it to advance themselves towards a meaningful purpose.

>>740060361
Ok, you are the .00001% of fascist arabs who are ok with Jews. It was completely unreasonable of me to group you with that 99.99999%.

Nevertheless, fascists and communists are both cockroaches. Libertarians also love cops and military personnel, but we don't trust a massive government with soul crushing power over our lives. The track record of economic failure in both fascistic and communistic countries is indisputable.

What works best is a small government that allows maximal freedom and robust economic growth.

4chan would not exist in either a communist or fascistic country.

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>>740057899
Clearly not if you don't know that most working class jobs won't fucking let you have 30 hours OT, put that fuckin cock back in your mouth so no one doesn't have to hear you speak.

>>740053597
Same reason you post faggy ant pictures faggot

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>>740061007
Agreed. People like to earn money for their work, and have property rights. Commies not so much...Your shit belongs to them.

>>740060843
because inner cities are limited on space and need to properly utilize the space available in order to ensure that the city continues to function in the future. in tight living conditions, 1 person organizing the housing project is better than how many people organizing their own housing situation would be.

>>740059691
>what "complex jobs"?
Technological advances require specialization - it is not possible for one person to know everything. There is someone out there that has spent more time designing the types of circuits that your computer uses than you are old.

Infrastructure is another example of a large scale, complex jobs. Infrastructure generally has to be a government project for the collective good, as individuals or small groups cannot complete projects requiring large amount of resources, including labor. In many cases, infrastructure built and maintained by private interests sets the stage for exploitation of the individual.

> i believe in communs setting up their own shit
Name one time and place where collectivization has worked.

>>740055387
Did you bother to look up any of those big words before you copy pasted them?

>>740061007

thats not true

An Egyptian writer, a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, wrote in the now-distant days of the first Tahrir square: “The people I saw on Tahrir Square were new Egyptians, having nothing in common with the Egyptians I was used to dealing with every day. It was as if the revolution had created Egyptians in a higher form […], as if the revolution had not only rid Egyptians of their fear but also cured them of their social defects. […] Tahrir Square became like the Paris Commune. The authority of the regime collapsed and the authority of the people took its place. Committees were formed everywhere, committees to clean the square and committees to set up lavatories and washrooms. Volunteer doctors set up a field hospital.” In Oakland, the Occupy movement held Oscar Grant Plaza as the “Oakland Commune.” In Istanbul, no better name could be found, already in the first days, than the “Taksim Commune” for what was coming into existence there. A way of saying that revolution was not something that Taksim might lead to one day, but its existence in actuality, its ebullient immanence, here and now. In September, 2012, a poor Nile Delta village, Tahsin, 3,000 inhabitants, declared its independence from the Egyptian state. “We will no longer pay taxes. We will no longer pay for schools. We’ll operate our own schools. We’ll collect our garbage and maintain our roads ourselves. And if an employee of the state sets foot in the village for any other purpose than to help us, we’ll throw him out,”

>>740060135
but you do support a group of people who would do the exact opposite of you. that's like saying, "oh no ISIS only attack military bases in countries against us. we never attack innocent people, that's crazy. I don't support other the ISIS members doing that and I would never kill an innocent old western man. he's getting cucked by niggers anyways." Antifa is violent. it's cool that you're not, but you have joined the wrong group if you only wanna attack violent Nazis. Antifa calls anyone on the right a Nazi to justify attacking civilians. they even attack centrist. that lean right.

>>740061150
*I* DON'T TRUST YOU WITH "SOULCRUSHING" POWER, OR AAAANNNYYY POWER

NOBODY TRUSTS YOU

THAT'S I'D IS WHY YOU ARE *STILL* FRINGE REJECTS

NOBODY TRUSTS YOU LOOOOOOL

>>740061790
nobody is innocent, nobody is uninvolved. you are either perpetuating a criminal society or you work towards its abolition, which is jugged criminal by that very criminal society. dont pretend to be all shocked and shit, you are a grown man, i suppose.

>>740061790
i cant make strategic judgement on a situation i wasn't in.

>>740062032
You don't have the stones to do what needs to be done to abolish our criminal system.

Dickless faggot.

>>740058250
Funny. We have very similar stories.

Pops is an Operating Engineer (diesel tech) mom was a school teacher's aide. Never finished high school but have been in the HVAC trade since I was 17. Journeynan now, can not imagine anything else.

Stay golden, /b/ro from across the pond

>>740053433
why does your girl prefer other men when it comes to sex?

>>740061631
it absolutely is true. communes springing up for one generation or two doesnt change that human nature is intrinsically self interested. for every one exception, there are thousands of examples stating otherwise. that is without even adressing how communes would work in our complex world. ask yourself, if everyone alive today lived like that. how would everyone stay fed?

>>740061875
Typing stupid shit in all-caps just makes you sound more stupid, dumbfuck.

Don't you see the contradiction in what you said? As a libertarian, I agree with you not to trust me or anyone else. I don't trust you either. In a libertarian society, we can each do our own thing and not have to trust one another. In a communist or fascistic state, The one you don't trust is running the government, owns you, controls every aspect of your life, and there is not a goddamn thing you can do about it.

Libertarianism, as ideology, is the majority view in the USA.

>>740059842
t. /r/the_donald

>>740062350
well at least im not a conformist/cynic to call that hustle "our" criminal system. next time a cop robs you under "civil fortitude" tell him about "our" criminal system.

>>740062598
goddamn man. animals have nature, we people have history. we are just attributing our collective power to a God named The Economy. its called commodity fetishism

>>740061631
How does it feel to be hugely massive waste of time

>>740057149
I hope you get curbstomped and raped with a firehose. You cosplaying little faggots have literally no clue what reality is, and you are just pissing off the rest of the working force. One day, the violence will turn an yer fucked, mate.

>>740060300
>we no liberals
You mean we know liberals, antifag. For Shits sake you want to be taken seriously, at least try to fucking spell.

I don't feel sorry for fascists, or for nazis, Ku klux klanners, skinheads, or most reactionary, conservative, republicans. (Except maybe John McCain) They are all everything they accuse their enemies of being. Snowflakes. Violent. Crybabies. Unreasonable. No sense of history. Sexually deviant. Control freaks from hell who want power over everyone they rule over.

>>740063092
being a non productive slave is nice

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>>740062680
Thanks for the tip. Will check out.

>>740062781
You do realize your wasting your time

>>740063302
oh so you get payed for writing shit on /b/? go back to work, will'ya?

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>>740063131
>who want power over everyone they rule over.
If you think it doesn't work like this on the left, you are delusional.

>>740061150
>The track record of economic failure in both fascistic and communistic countries is indisputable.


Every Institution
Every government
Every nation
Every political party

Will be corrupt and will fall apart. You fucking kids might as well be shooting Roman Candles at the Hoover Dam. Ain't gonna do a damn thing, but when it falls you kids will claim responsibility

>>740063006
its unfortunate, but necessary at this point. its called systems collapse. you cant just replace a cog in a flying airplane this complex fast enough to prevent the whole machine seizing up and crashing. millions would die of starvation.

>>740062032
>nobody is innocent

so what you're saying is that anyone disagreeing with you, even moderate people are not innocent if they disagree with you. they are your enemy which you will attack. that's literally extremism. think about that. you are an extremist. you don't like the idea of attacking old people, but if they disagree with you. it must be done because they are then your enemy since they are working for what you disagree with. children can have opinions as well. if a 10-year-old child were to say Donald trump is his man and he loves capitalism and will vote for trump again, would you attack him too? he is not innocent as he is actively working against you. you attack you enemies and this child is your enemy. it's far more productive to talk with you "enemies" as both you and they will get more out of it. you don't have to make it a fight either

"I believe the economy may have these flaws because of this and that. what do you think my friend?"

"my opinion is that it's wise to have this and that because of this and that. however I do understand your concern and ill admit, it might be done better"

how normal people talk and actually change people minds. extremist in general on every side talk like:

"THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM IS SHIT AND HAS NO POSITIVE ASPECTS AT ALL. BELIEVE THIS AND YOU ARE MY ENEMY! FUCK YOU YOU PIECE OF SHIT, YOU ARE STUPID FOR BELIEVING THIS EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO CLUE WHYU YOU DO!"

"WTF YOU CALLING ME STUPID YOU FUCKING RETARD, IM NOT STUPID BECAUSE IF YOU DO WHAT YOU BEKLIVE EVERYTHING WILL GO TO SHIT! BE AGAINST ME AND YOU ARE RETARDED!"

>>740063644
notice how the way the extremists would normally talk is different to how normally sane people would talk. they actually get something out of their discussions. extremist just spread anger and divide people. nothing is perfect. everything has good things and bad things with it. that's why it's so important to recognise what these things are, not just categorise an entire philosophy as garbage because you disagree with a lot of what it says.

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>>740063644

>>740063131
When will you realize that somewhere in the future when your old and brittle that you will come to the collusion that everything you fought for is mostly a big heap of bullshit that means abouslety nothing

>>740062032
>nobody is innocent
>you are either perpetuating a criminal society or you work towards its abolition

please read what Cleese said here: >>740058648

What you are saying is extremism, through and through. I wish you could see the damage you are doing. By interrupting dialog because you disagree, you are creating division and discord where there wasn't before, and nothing productive will be accomplished that way.

>>740056962
Trump paid me $40 an hour to help build his towers.

>>740063455
You are right I don,t get paid for this but hey at least I have a loving father while your daddy was probably fucking a bunch of whores when you're mother was not around

>>740060418
Like this guy ever accomplished anything in his life.

>>740053433
Do you like helicopter rides?

>>740063455
Oh and also I suggest you stop being a faggot and get an actual job fam

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>>740064094
He's fighting to bring the system down man. I don't think he has a clue what life would be like after that thou.

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>>740063765
if this is what communism looks like then Antifa are pretty bad communists and so are you

>>740053433
How much money guvmant give you for being retarded? How does it feel to know the rest of the world is laughing at your ignorant entitled brat attitude? How many fucking history books have your no child left behind asses actually read? Clearly you should pick up a few more and find out why Antifa was doomed before it even started.

L

>>740064300
Wait scratch that, America or elsewhere?

>>740064287
in other words
>antifa engage in combat with our enemies
>pacifism for the win
chose one

Have you had your daily glass of bleach yet?

Op is a faggot

>>740061200
Because you are both regards that aren't worth the air you breathe?

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>>740053433
why are you a brainwashed fag who is a tool of the democratic party but too stupid too know it?

Aaaass

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>>740064287
I'm not a commie faggot.

>>740063644
look, people have cellphones, they call cops with those, we are all half cops half "terrorists". why you think the NSA is reading all of our shit? there is a sleeping antifa in every one of us. sometime the same fucking kid who votes for trump steals from the store and riots. its very situational. a poor cab driver can try to stop a bank robber and the robber would shot him dead. what "opinions" those are dispositions. nullified liberals have opinions, real niggaz act.

>>740064060
you got robbed

>>740064636
Yea I know it should of just been handed to me for sitting on my ass because the world owes me.

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>>740064636
I hope your speaking rhetorically, in which case it depends on how much experience he has. 40$ an hour for unskilled labor *would* be a steal, but not for trump.

>>740063455
Seeing how such of a retard you are OP here are your ABC'S just in case you forgot them:A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

>>740064800
no nigga, if you build a tower with your friends you should decide on the name and the purpose of the tower. your whole fucking waking life is stolen by someone else, how does that feel?

>>740053433
Why don't you go fuck your self?

L

>>740053433
How does it feel to literally be the "fascism" you say you oppose?

Does being literal cancer hurt or do you just not notice?

Exactly how many pounds of feces do you monkeys chuck at one another when you're not out rioting like a BLM party?

Do you understand that you're terrorists or do you somehow think you're the good guys?

How does it feel to shit all over the intended liberal ideology without saying a single word against them?

Fuck that felt good. Thank you anon, I've had that shit bottled up for a while.

>>740053433
Why u so stupid

Nop

>>740065037
This is really how you people think huh? Maybe if i paid for the materials, paid for the insurance, paid for the land etc THEN i would do with it as i see fit. You're all just a bunch of lazy fucks who want shit handed to you.

>>740065078
True dat true dat

>>740065054
after this ill go to an ass tread

>>740065037
Nigger it's not a tree fort

>>740065218
but how can you pay for all those with the poor 40 bucks that he's majesty throw at you? sad.. you are a loser

>>740053433
FREE HELICOPTER RIDES!!!!!!!

>>740058976
Nice ctrl-v. Also, the argument of John Stuart Mills is that the decisions of man to truly choose the good can only occur in an unrestricted environment of absolute free speech. Nice try.

>>740065559
Wow you are literally retarded

>>740065449
i suggest that it is, kids are much wiser then us

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>>740065559

>>740053433
I fuked ur mom fagit

>>740065679
dont worry. play the lottery. work hard and you can one day be as rich as your lord

>>740053433
What motivated you to be such a fucking dumbass loser?

>>740053433
Please tell me you're not serious please tell you're just pretending to be a huge colossal amount of human waste

>>740065992
im the loser? look at those fools, prasing an orange clown for enabling them to live with 40 bucks

>>740053433
What's it like being a traitor?

>>740066672
well. thats a better one.

feels good, man.

>>740066186
At least these people have jobs to go to you probably beg for money of the fucking streets like the sad sack of cuckitude you are

Mmmmmmmmmm......commie tears
>>740066186

>>740054550
Of course. How else is he gonna get Cheetos and Mtn. Dew? Duh

>>740066820
being a begger is also a job, the purpose of the beggar is to remind you what happens is you wont work that ass for big daddy, bitch.

>>740067140
Are..are you okay no seriously are you fucking okay right now are you because I think you might need therapy for the mental retardation you call antifacism

L

>>740068036
come on nigga, hit me up with an argument. "mental retardation" what is this? this is bullshit

>>740067140
When are you going to get out of this phase

>>740058170
Cognitive dissonance that's how

>>740053433
Why? You've got nothing worth saying. Go break some windows where the owners are prevented from shooting your ass like you deserve, stupid child.

>>740068332
im 31, in September ill be 32. its not a "phase". im fighting to live. not just breath but live a bit before i die. im no cynic.

i noticed a tread a week ago, half of the people here are on some anti depressant pill. why not change the realty that immiserates you? why drink pills like an old woman and be mad at those who rebel? this is slave resentment. you cant find to power to live/fight so you hate on those who still haven't given up

>>740068201
Alright fine you want a argument you got one bucko,the fascism and ''''''''''''''institutionalized racism''''''''''' you constantly complain about is not real and in your head because last time I checked black people like myself are not getting lynched captain cuckozoid so and journalists are not getting killed soooooo....proof please

yeah right like any sjw would come to 4 chan and do an ama

Zzzzzzon

L

>>740068560
Are you going to answer me or what

>>740068883
listen, cops kill black people and get scotfree with it. black folk are trapped in modern gulags for their cheap labor. 50 percent are unemployed

M

>>740069113
Well if you look at the statistics you would see that white and Hispanic get killed more than black people don't take my word for it google "debunking black lives matter narrative-understanding proportionality"

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>>740054693
What's it like squatting in Michael Stipe's summer home?

Koilo

>>740053433
do you have education or are you some jobless white person attacking other whites trying to turn whites into the minority?

>>740069113
Hey man are you going to answer my question buddy old chum

>>740069113
Pls answer me

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>>740053433

He surrendered without firing a shot. They said his gun broke but come on, he carried it for weeks and it picked right then to break ?

>>740053433
You guys are the biggest neo-liberal stooges and the government strategically employs you to suppress nationalism and actual organization of the people.

Fuck you.

>>740054693
i live in greece too... room for one?

>>740069113
Dude just admit. That I am fucking right already

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>>740069113
So are you going to bring up a counteragruement

Are you gone

>>740053433
Well I guess I won the argument then

>>740071257
Hey were did OP. go

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Why don't you guys come out to rallies anymore? I miss cracking commie skulls.
Is it because you're actually just the (((neoliberal elite)))'s shock troops?

>>740053433
what was >740000000 get?

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>>740073186
Let's find out. >>740000000

>>740057149
>Lol, the illusion of freedom.
Childlike
Delusional
Plain stupid

Seems like a rich kid to me.

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>>740073292
I can't say that I expected any better of modern /b/.
>>740073399
Yep. It's doubly insulting because he's not actually a member of the class that he pretends to be. He isn't a worker, he's a pampered rich kid or a drug addict that Soros subsidizes. No modern commie is a proletarian.

>>740053829

>nothing beats spitting on faces who's membership of some is mandatory

I'm betting you are way to much of a coward to ever spit in somebody's face. The only way you would do it is if you are surrounded by a crowd of like minded degenerates. We all know you progressive scum are absolute cowards 1 on 1 and scatter like cockroaches the moment you are unmasked.

>>740053433
Why do you surpress free speech if you're against fascism? That's fascist

Well guys if we hAve learned anything here is that OP is a massive faggot

>>740053433
How does it feel being the literal definition of a fascist?

>>740057628
You think trump is bad, cunt licker would've been worse. You fucking liberals are so stupid. You think feelings mean more than logic

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>>740073831
>>740074021
Wrong.

Antifa are an amalgam of communists, anarchists, and red liberals. Very little unites them besides third-worldism, radical egalitarianism and anti-whiteness. They want to suppress speech that goes against those ideals, and they use violence (as best as they're able, lmao) to do so.

Suppression of speech and political violence isn't a uniquely fascist tactic, it's the natural consequence of having a society with factions that radically disagree with each other. Fascists, Marxists, and liberals (you) all have fundamental disagreements about the way the world is structured and how society should continue into the future. There isn't much room for rational dialog because the ideologies are so distinct; therefore we regress to emotional appeals, moral value judgements, and eventual physical violence. Liberalism is basically dead at this stage, the question is what comes after and your options are basically fascism, Stalinism, or Islam (or anarchy, followed by fascism, Stalinism or Islam).

t. fascist

>>740058976
Your feelings are never to be construed as an instrument to use against me and what I say and stand for. If your feelings are hurt to the point that you think it's ok to lash out at me, you're a deluded s o b. To say I can't call you a cock sucking nigger is wrong. Violence begets violence. Your feelings mean shit compared to my rights. Grow the fuck up you stupid nigger loving goat fucker.

>>740063458
>the motivator
gave me a chuckle

>>740074528
Every time I see Islam being lumped into left-wing ideology, I immediately discount the argument made by an otherwise intelligent debater.
Extreme religious ideology is exclusively right-wing. This is primarily due to the fact that religion is the core of said ideology, which also happens to fall within right-wing political ideology. It just so happens to be far-right. Just like our own Bible belt full of strict CONSERVATIVE families that think anything the church disapproves of is sinful, and happen to all vote Republican. You never hear of a liberal religious family, because by political definition, it doesn't really exist, as liberalism tends to stray from hardheaded religious doctrines. It's also why atheists fall within left-wing thinking.

>>740053433
do you ever eat pizza with pineapple as a topping?

>>740060300
>Milan
a bunch of bourgeois cunts dress up like faggots and wreck their own neighbourhood

>>740074929
I agree that religion is far right, but why does the far left totally embrace Islam? I've never understood it.

In my opinion leftists accept Islam simply because Islam is inherently anti-western civilization. Leftists seek to destroy and re-define western civilization down to the core, and Islam is an ally that will help achieve that end goal.

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>>740074929
No no no, you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Islam is left wing. Left-wingers LIKE Islam, because the left is basically defined by anti-whiteness at this stage and Muslims are overwhelmingly nonwhite, but Islam is no more left-wing than fascism or divine-right monarchy.

What I'm saying is that the liberal nature of modern society (and, despite what you seem to think, modern conservatives are -liberal- in outlook, they're just not as reconstructed) is unstable. The West will either end up conquered by Islam, or run by fascist states. Those states may have a Marxist veneer and economic outlook, which is why I included Stalinism, but there's not a future in which the world order stays as it is now.

H