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You're gay

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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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You're gay
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>>739768154
no u
i come to see Kylie Marie
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Yeah i know i am
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>>739768154
lel ive literally fucked her before the fame
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>>739768154
Nou
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>>739768154
You can still like traps and not be gay. It really comes down to whether or not the penis is feminine.

"Feminine" refers not just to literal females but to anything that possesses or is imagined to possess stereotypically female qualities. a man can be feminine or strike a feminine pose. various cultures attribute "femininity" to obviously genderless features of the natural world, like the moon or the soil (ancient chinese identified the ground as feminine with a masculine sky above). there are feminine rhymes in poetry. if an abstract linguistic pattern can be feminine, why not a penis?

For example, a slender, smooth penis, contrasted with a blunt and veiny member. a graceful penis. a receptive penis that does not aggressively penetrate but rather allows itself to be engulfed. and isn't dribbling semen reminiscent of a breast's warm milk? a nurturing penis, a penis like a doting mother.

A feminine penis.
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>>739768972
bruh. get this pasta outa here. We're bi and we like it.
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>>739768154
>You're gay

Fuck off back to /fag/.
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>>739769225
what a mess ... and i like it yeah
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>>739768406
If you're gonna brag you might as well greentext, anon.
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>>739769716
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>>739769664
>>739768406
samefag
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>>739769770
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>>739768154
i dont even want girl butthole
much less some faggot boys
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>>739769067
I'm not bi,-->>739768972 is truth.

I'd rather fuck a sheep than a guy, not at all. And I'd fight to the death to keep from getting fucked by a guy.

But I'd tongue fuck OP, pic related
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>>739770084
You sound like a very insecure closeted homosexual.
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>>739769942
....snarf!
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>>739769575
Now that's one with a great body
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>>739770229
I'm insecure yeah, not a closeted homosexual. straight transexual.

I'd suck this
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>>739770084
100% agree
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>>739768972

It's not gay to like traps. The only thing that is gay is to be attracted to men with manly features.
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>>739769828
>>739769770
>>739769716
>>739769652
sauce?
>>739770081
this too
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>>739768154
Confirmed

Daddy
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if your attracted to this you're gay
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>>739771254
but feminine penis
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>>739768154
No. You're gay..
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>>739768154
idc, I still want to pound that ass.
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>>739768154
Who is she?
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>>739770084
You're thinking about it too hard. What is gay is loving and wanting to be in a relationship with a man, something masculine, waking up next to it and kissing it kind of shit.
penises can't be gay unless you masturbating is gay
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>>739769528
what the fuck is on his dick? some kind of chastity thing?
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>>739772119
You're some deluded fucks in this thread, jesus christ.
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>>739768154
It's not gay if balls aren't touching.
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>>739771609
Yummy
Is that you
If it is please show ass
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>>739768154
And....
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>>739768154
i wouldn't consider myself gay but who could resist fucking a tight asshole like that. i dont care that there is a dick attached to that ass if i like it i fuck it. that goes for anything.
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>>739773297
>who could resist fucking a tight asshole like that
People who are straight.
>i dont care that there is a dick attached to that ass
A straight person would.
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>>739774452
bullshit
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>>739768154
>trap
>gay
pick one
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Would you fuck me?
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>>739774452
You sound like a real faggot, anon. You're not fooling anyone.

And I get called closeted cuz the idea of fucking a visually masculine is repulsive.
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>>739774918
Yes! post kik
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>>739774587
Guess you just don't know what it's like to be straight, faggot.
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>>739775206
Maybe;)
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>>739775003
>>739774918
I would fuck you deep and cum inside your amazing ass. Can we PM?
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>>739770636
>straight transexual.
unless you're mtf fucking chicks(vice versa for ftm) you're a faggot for sucking cocks
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>>739775248
I know very well what that's like. I also know what it's like to have my own sexuality and not only fuck what my parents/church/society told me to fuck
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>>739771775
>she
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>>739775442
If you were genuinely straight, your parents/church/society wouldn't have to tell you what to fuck. You'd instinctively only desire women with vaginas. Anything else you would be at best apathetic to and at worst absolutely disgusted by. The fact that you're not inherently means you're not entirely straight.

Therefore, you are a faggot.
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>>739773297
>i wouldn't consider myself gay
that's because you're bi
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>>739769225
jokes on u im not gay i get off to varsity jackets
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>>739775623
I don't desire vaginas dude. I desire women.
that's what you closeted homos/asexual straights will never understand
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>>739775389
fuck off you common nigger. I'm not transexual but i'm straight. bitch is feminine, I'd fuck it if no women were around.
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>>739775003
>that gross fat ass(not the good kind) man ass
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>>739768154
>tfw /b/ turns you into a faggot
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>>739768972
>pic related

This is a feminine penis
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>>739775894
>I don't desire vaginas dude. I desire women.
>that's what you closeted homos/asexual straights will never understand
this
/thread
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>>739775894
A woman with a penis is pretty gay, dude.

Vaginas are what make it straight. Of course, a vagina on a manly body is also pretty gay. It has to be a vagina on a female body. That is, you know, an actual female.

A "woman" with a penis is not a woman at all. It's just a man who ruined his body with hormones. It's inherently gay.
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>>739775032
more?
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>>739775986
>tfw you're a faggot because you use /b/
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>>739775904
>i'm straight but i would suck/fuck a guy because he looks girly enough to me.
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>>739772037
holy fuck this is perfect. moreeeee
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disgusting. as a straight person that is one fuck ugly vagina sir.
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>>739768154
Thanks for reminding me
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>>739775894
>>739776006
>i don't desire vagina's dude. i desire men that look like women. you're a closet homo because you wouldn't fuck a man that looks like an ugly women.
FTFY
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i need a scat trap please
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>>739776008
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>>749768154
Apparently
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>>739768154
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>>739775998
I prefer clits and women.
Traps have dicks and they're feminine. They're feminine on men which is just one more reason I find them (dicks) repulsive on them (men.)
I can and do admire them on traps.
I think a lot of porn w/ men in it is gay. You can't really argue it isn't.
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>>739776365
On what grounds? I speak the absolute truth, there is no refuting it based on delusion.
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>>739776233
I have to assume you're replying to >>739775998

In which case , yes it is, but that is what a feminine penis is, it's not a dick like what you see on trannies
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>>739776321
>It's a porn fetish
>degeneracy acknowledged
>wouldn't fuck a trap irl
>be me
>watch porn where ultrafem traps fuck women
>fetishize the dick just as much as simple niggers do w/ straight porn
>what they call 'Cock'
>my sides

The Human body is beautiful, however beatification is un-masculine. the male body is functional in overcoming itself. the female in becoming itself.
not violating any laws.
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>>739768154
For Christ sake who cares, you like what you like,no need to label. If your into this then your into this.
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>>739768154
Kylie = GOAT
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>>739771790
name?
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>>739776819
that idgaf look when he/she cum's, lol
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>>739776448
you don't speak the truth, you are just stating your opinion, that a vagina is the object of desire for a straight man. (which may be true for you, but is wrong as a generalized statement)
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>>739777223
That's hilarious
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>>739776008
so if you find a man attractive and the man wants to be a women, its gay
But if if you find a woman attractive and the woman wants to be a man, its gay?
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>>739770942
if you have a penis. and the person your fucking has a penis. its gay by definition.
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>>739777225
True for me? It's true for all straight men. It's okay that you're not entirely straight. But don't claim to be straight but suddenly have some kind of slowflake special unique fucking sexuality. You're not a special snowflake. You're just another dude who can't accept that he's not straight.

This fucking generation, man. Everyone wants to be a unique individual, a one of a kind gender identity and a one of a kind sexual orientation. You're either a man or a woman, and either straight or a faggot. You're a man who's a faggot, who's into other faggot men with fake tits. I'm a man who's straight, who's into straight women. Simple as that.
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>>739777728
>I'm a man who's straight, who's into straight women. Simple as that.

and here you are in this thread
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>>739777657
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>>739776819
How does he keep a straight face and show no emotion when cumming
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>>739777565
A man can't be a woman. But I'll admit that if they become convincingly feminine, then it adds a somewhat straight sexuality into it for a man who's into them. However, it's not enough to override the presence of a penis. And even if that penis is surgically removed, that person is still a man. So, at the end of the day, it's kind of a faggot thing to be into trannies. Bis are still faggots as far as I'm concerned. A straight man will want none of the masculine elements.

Same with women who want to be men. They can't actually become men. But testosterone as a hormone is more dominant than estrogen. So they can become convincingly masculine, and if they are in fact convincingly masculine, then being attracted to them is also gay. Attraction to their vagina isn't gay, but it's not enough to override the masculine appearance.

So yes, both are gay. The only thing a straight man can be into is a real woman. If you like anything else, you're not straight.
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>>739777889
I'm trying to talk sense into all these deluded faggots. One thread at a time.
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>>739776819
is he autistic?
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>>739777728
I don't consider myself heterosexual- happy?
I am straight.
I don't consider a lot of things heterosexuals do, straight. That cucked shit, for example- especially the one where the fully clothed woman is tongue fucking the man's asshole.
I'd never be w/ a trap irl, but i'd be straighter with >her, than a lot of hets'd be w/ GG.
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>>739778281
and you say that while jacking off to traps

its ok to be gay
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>>739778281
masturbating to traps, also
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>>739778252
lmao dude, you just proved yourself wrong
>So they can become convincingly masculine, and if they are in fact convincingly masculine, then being attracted to them is also gay
you just said that being attracted to a female2male trans is gay, so you admitted that being attracted to a person which has male features but not a penis is gay. inversely, this means that being attracted to a person who has female features but not a vagina is straight.
top kek
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>>739778544
>I don't consider myself heterosexual
>I am straight
just fucking say you're bisexual then or at least bi-curious
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I consider myself to be straight as i'm very attracted to not only women, but femininity in general. I also consider myself trans-curious. I do find a hot trap attractive for the same reason I find a hot women attractive = because they look feminine. Often, traps can look more feminine than females because they're trying harder in a sense.
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>>739778252
a guy fucking a ftm is still straight since it's an actual chick. just think of it as one of those ugly muscle head bull dykes
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>>739778252
but that's just wrong, you're saying that testosterone is more dominant than estrogen and yet for a m to f wouldn't it stop it and still make the man more masculine? By your reasoning estrogen doesn't work bc testosterone is dominant and yet male are becoming more feminine with estrogen being put in them, there is no proof that testosterone is dominant
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>>739778544
I posted this and even I can't look past the veins her arms or her calf muscles not shown.

IDK why I like trap porn.
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>>739778252
you're a moron, its fine if you find m2f gay but the other way around is completely straight going by your facts
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>>739778702
Well, if you want to get all technical with bullshit libtard sexual terms, being attracted to either one is bi. But being bi is being a faggot. So liking either makes you a faggot.

>>739779036
What I'm saying is that testosterone works better than estrogen. It will masculinize a woman much faster and more effectively than estrogen will feminize a man.
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>>739778903
>I consider myself to be straight as i'm very attracted to not only women, but femininity in general. I also consider myself trans-curious.
being attracted to a man that looks like a women would make you less straight. just because he's girly looking doesn't make it any less gay. the definition of homosexual is having a attraction to someone of the same sex (mtf trannies or traps). also that word you're looking for is bi-curious not trans-curious
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In my opinion, if you don't want to bury your tongue in this asshole >>739768154 you're gay. What man in his right mind wouldn't want to taste that?
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>>739779183
there is no proof that testosterone works better than estrogen, you cant say someone is gay for liking an ugly chick
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>>739778805
I'm not bi or bi-curious at all. It's not even an idea to be with a dude. I hate men actually, which is probly why I like tranny porn.
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>>739777728
You're stupid, there's a whole world of difference between being a snowflake and having preferences. Not all hetero men like vaginas, not all gay men like penises. Pleeenty of gay tops who like assholes but not dicks, plenty of bottom hets that prefer big smothering asses over squicky vaginas.

Get over it, you lame vanilla cunt
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>>739779336
so it's just a fetish to you then if so then that understandable
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>>739779183
are you calling female to male a liberal term? kek
you are just very insecure about your sexuality, so you desperately cling to the women=vagina mentality
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>>739779270
I guess so. I just think that when it comes to traps, it's the femininity that i'm attracted to, so I feel it's inherently similar to being straight. Also, I would say bi-curious, but i'm not interested in having sex with a regular guy, so I feel it's better to specify the trans part because it's specifically a girly guy that looks far more like a female than most females.
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>>739778980
>>739779179
You idiots don't even understand my point. Read this:
>>739779183
Being attracted to a mtf "gril" isn't 100% gay because they have feminine features, but they're still men and have penises. So they're still at least partly gay. Straight men will want nothing to do with them.

Being attracted to a ftm "man" isn't 100% straight because that woman has extremely masculine features, statistically more masculine than mft are feminine because of the pronounced effects of testosterone. It's not 100% gay, but it's gay enough that a straight man will want nothing to do with them.

I'm not saying either is gay, but they're not straight. And as far as I'm concerned, if you're not straight you're a faggot. I'm tired of libtards trying to make everything about "spectrums" and unique sexual identities. You're straight or a fag, it's simple.

>>739779317
There's plenty of proof. Estrogen doesn't effect bone structure. Testosterone does. Estrogen doesn't make men's voices higher. Testosterone makes women's voices deeper and eventually entirely masculine. Estrogen doesn't remove facial hair. Testosterone adds facial hair. It has more pronounced effects. The downside for ftm is that they don't have as many options for sexual reassignment surgery.
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>>739779523
>are you calling female to male a liberal term?
No, I'm calling bisexual a liberal term. You're either straight or a faggot. That's just the way it is.
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>>739768446
LINOLEUM KNIFE
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Hi, I'm a man with a penis, but my mind is telling I'm a female, so I'm a woman with a dick, and this is right.....
Or...
Hi I'm Larry, 32year old Caucasian Male. I actually feel like a 14 year old black girl, and this is what I am now, and everybody has to accept me for who I say I think I am. Now time to go flirt with those cute 15 year old black boys and possible suck one of them off.

^This is where your degeneraculy with ultimately become. Grown men fucking your sons and daughters.
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If a MTF trans has had gender reassignment surgery, I wonder if the orgasm they feel from their vagina is just as good as it was when they had a penis?
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>>739776819

If any face is the face of abuse...
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>>739779650
>Being attracted to a ftm "man" isn't 100% straight because that woman has extremely masculine features, statistically more masculine than mft are feminine because of the pronounced effects of testosterone. It's not 100% gay, but it's gay enough that a straight man will want nothing to do with them.
It doesn't matter how girly or manly they look retard the definition of homosexual is an attraction to the same sex. so a "straight" man fucking a mtf tranny isn't straight. but a man fucking a ftm tranny is straight no matter how you look at it because it's the opposite sex as that guy.
>You're straight or a fag
i'll take what is bisexual for $500
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>>739780012
>implying they even get orgasms
they've effectively been castrated
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>>739779507
Exactly. I feel like this whole "debate" is completely spoiled by pure white vanillas who think any fetish or kink that doesn't fit their mentality is "gay".

I mean people have weird preferences that don't necessarily match with that dichotomy they so desperately cling to cause their ego is so fragile that they can't begin to fathom that people can have different - albeit also VALID - worldviews.

Get over it for crying out loud
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>>739780012
>I wonder if the orgasm they feel from their vagina
>their vagina
>vagina
it's not a vagina buddy it's an open wound
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>>739780082

It's just the way they deny their shame.
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>>739779963
***Degeneracy
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>>739780067
>>739780190
I think they'd feel some kind of orgasm. I don't think the surgeons would operate on them knowing they're directly taking away their ability to orgasm.
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>>739778400
*she
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>>739779650
so their bones aren't affected even though women have more bountiful hips bc of their pelvis which is a bone? there has been studies that show proof that women do have higher voices bc they have estrogen, estrogen keeps facial and bodily hair from growing it also improves sleep, skin, odor, memory, and sensory acuity and i guess natural breast aren't a thing too bc if a woman wouldn't have estrogen how big of a cup would you think she would be?
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why is everyone so caught up in it being "gay" or not who cares if some say it is and others dont. rather then debating the stupid fact why not focus on actually finding and getting some puss, ass, vag, dick. fucking whatever, get over the dumb bullshit and get to fucking jesus people!!
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>>739780012
How does it feel knowing you will never be a female that has menstrual cycles, produce eggs, and give birth? You know, like an actual woman.
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>>739780337
i heard over time they lose the ability to orgasm
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>>739779507
yup
>>739780082
I'm about as vanilla as they come. I'm freaked out by channing tatum and find him unbelievably gay.
This is the corniest thing ever written on the 4/chan but it's summer so wtf- i get off on the act of loving a woman, making her feel feminine and beautiful. If i can do that with a trap, who is, honestly, a dude- OK.
I wouldn't do it irl.
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>>739780272
That might just be it lol

Still it's pretty stupid to think that mental strenght is being psycho-rigid
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>>739780012

Except for clitoral, most female orgasms have an emotional component to them.
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>>739780361
he*
women don't have penises, prostates, nor the ability to cum jizz
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>>739780062
Bisexuals are fags. It's just another word made up by libtards to be special snowflakes. It's just older than some of the stupider shit that's come about more recently.

>It doesn't matter how girly or manly they look retard the definition of homosexual is an attraction to the same sex. so a "straight" man fucking a mtf tranny isn't straight. but a man fucking a ftm tranny is straight no matter how you look at it because it's the opposite sex as that guy.
I'm willing to accept a more visually-based aspect of sexuality. A straight person could call for someone who was once a man if they looked entirely convincingly female and has a convincingly real looking, real feeling vagina. Objectively the act is pretty gay, but a straight person could fall into that because they have no way to know any better.

So you can be straight and find something attractive about an actually convincing trap. But the penis would turn any straight man completely off. As would the knowledge that the person is a man, no matter how female they appeared to be. So we're in agreement, but I'm acknowledging that there is a subjective element to this because we're not all-knowing.

But if I accept that, then it's hard to accept fucking a ftm as entirely straight if they're convincingly masculine. The act would be straight, sure, but the attraction isn't. A straight person wouldn't be attracted to someone who looked like a man, no matter what genitals they have. I'm saying this acknowledging that a straight man could find a mtf attractive until they are made aware that it is a mtf and not a real woman.
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>>739780396
>get to fucking jesus

We need to fuck Jesus? But he's dead and we don't know where his body is
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>>739780615
why is everyone so caught up in it being "gay" or not who cares if some say it is and others dont. rather then debating the stupid fact why not focus on actually finding and getting some puss, ass, vag, dick. fucking whatever, get over the dumb bullshit and get to fucking?!?
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>>739770942
Just stop lying to yourself there's faggot parades nowadays. Just accept your mental illness
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>>739780393
I'm talking about the effects of hormone therapy, not the natural hormones of men and women. Obviously the corresponding hormones have huge effects on either sex. But estrogen doesn't affect men as much as testosterone affects women, in terms of sexual transition.
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>>739780615
PSYCHORIGIDITY ALERT
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>>739780661
everyone needs to let jesus into their hearts and orrifices!!!
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>>739780463
I'm a male, but sometimes I wish I was born female. However, I know I will never be a female, so maybe I can be an androgynous male that's pretty? Good enough with me.
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>>739780337
You would think wrong anon. The doctors either don't give a fuck or think they are resolving the dysphoria. They don't care about sexual pleasure. Why do you think post-op suicide rates are so high? Regret.
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>>739774452
LOL
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>>739780698
So when a man takes estrogen his hips do not become bigger? Does tend to have less hair then normal on his body? Does his body not start to grow breast?
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>>739780615

Testosterone. If you could make a lamp look hot, and fuckable, a man would fuck it. Who cares?
It's a fetish. That's it.
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>>739780505
That's rough if true. Now I understand why many trans don't bother with gender reassignment surgery.

>>739780577
That's so hot, but are you saying that MTF trans people can achieve clitoral orgasms?
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>>739780791
Depends on the surgeon. There are some that take great care in ensuring that you will be able to achieve sexual satisfaction post-op. Part of the reason is to avoid post-op dissatisfaction.
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>>739780615
>Bisexuals are fags. It's just another word made up by libtards to be special snowflakes.
wew lad. im not even liberal but wew lad. asexual, pansexual and all those other gender/sexualites are made up. hetero, bi, and homo are the only sexualites while male and female are the only sexes/genders

>inb4 gender and sex aren't the same
yes they are you snowflakes gender is a synonym for sex.
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>>739776819
Why does this retard look scared?
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>>739780518
if you have a fetish you're not completely vanilla, sorry. Well, maybe French vanilla rather than pure vanillin lol

and yeah that was corny. But to each their own I guess. I rather slap the shit outta that motherfucker and rub my face in his tears while jacking off, but hey, loves takes many shapes and forms.
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>>739776819
>>739780045
Daddy loved him a little too much as a kid
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>>739780082
I'm just here to fap
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>>739780887
The effects are still overall more subtle than for the other side. Ask any transgender forum, they'll agree. MTF wish theirs effects were as pronounced as FTM.

>his hips do not become bigger?
Not really, no. Fat distribution effects it somewhat, but not bone structure. Not if you do it post-puberty.

>Does tend to have less hair then normal on his body?
Yes. But when compared to hair growth for FTM, it's a pretty subtle difference.

>Does his body not start to grow breast?
They're lucky if they get A-cups.
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>>739780272
You sound like an SJWfag
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>>739781158
that's also a valid worldview
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>>739780946
Your flat wrong anon. No surgeon can assure you that cutting apart your penis and shoving it back up inside of you and creating a goofy clit with the remains will result in any future sexual satisfaction. If they tell you that, they are lying. The penis has massive nerve endings, severing nerves results in decreased feeling in those areas. Many lose feeling permanently.
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>>739781021
Moar plz
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>>739780955
>asexual, pansexual and all those other gender/sexualites are made up. hetero, bi, and homo are the only sexualites while male and female are the only sexes/genders
Do you even realize what a hypocrite you sound like? Why exclude asexuality and pansexuality if you're going to include bisexuality? Make makes bisexuality any different from the other bullshit?

>>inb4 gender and sex aren't the same
Dunno what gives you the impression that I'd make that argument.
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>>739781238
...yeah and Jordan Peterson's probably also an "SJWfag"
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>>739781221
Sorry but no it does change bone structure only if a little bit its still change, so you're comparing the amount of lost hair to gained hair? That would easily shoot towards whoever started it first, and last you can be on it for a year and already have an A-cup
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>>739781328
It's a shop
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>>739781319
Have you ever had the surgery done on you? How do you know what it feels like?
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>>739780955
>channing tatum
asexuality isnt made up, there are just some ppl that are not attracted to anything
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i live in australia, whats the best way to meet traps, i love that stuff but i dont know how to hit em up!!
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>>739781114
Please tell me your Kik seXXXy
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>>739780955
Asexuality doesn't exist? Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
riiiiight


Pansexuality's just bisexuality with a fancy name though.
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>>739781653
>Sorry but no it does change bone structure only if a little bit its still change
What bone structure changes are you referring to exactly?

>so you're comparing the amount of lost hair to gained hair? That would easily shoot towards whoever started it first
Are you saying that all FTMs started before MTFs?

>and last you can be on it for a year and already have an A-cup
That's pretty optimistic.
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>>739781886
im referring to the pelvis being larger, im saying in terms of a person taking it longer its affects will be of greater value, and that's not optimistic im just looking at facts
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>>739781390
>Do you even realize what a hypocrite you sound like? Why exclude asexuality and pansexuality if you're going to include bisexuality? Make makes bisexuality any different from the other bullshit
are you fucking stupid or something? bi is an attraction to both male and female sexes you dumb cunt. you act like you can't be attracted to both and it's just gay or straight. asexual is just a snowflake version for people with a low sex-drive and pansexual is a stupid made up gender bullshit version of bi-sexual.
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>>739781728
>>739781728
those are people with a low sex drive. it's impossible to not be attracted to either sex at all.
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>>739781815
refer to>>739782309
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>>739782049
>im referring to the pelvis being larger
But that doesn't happen. Not if you do it after puberty.

>im saying in terms of a person taking it longer its affects will be of greater value
So that is basically what you're saying. That the reason FTM effects are more pronounced is because they're taking it longer. Doesn't make any sense.

>and that's not optimistic im just looking at facts
The facts, as I understand them, is that you're lucky to get A cups after several years. Some are very lucky and end up with even larger breasts, but that's extremely rare and cannot be counted on. It also has a relatively quick plateau point in terms of growth, so you could reach A cup after a year and not grow any more after that.

The thing is, if you start before puberty a lot of these limitations wouldn't happen. You could end up looking exactly like a woman but with a penis. And the best looking traps often did start it very early. But the older you are, the more difficult it is for it to reduce the effects testosterone had on your body, and make you feminine. At about 20, post-puberty, the effects are relatively limited.

However, testosterone for FTM isn't as limited by the effects of puberty. A general rule for hormone therapy is that it can add, but doesn't really take away. So it can add some female elements to a masculine body, but that isn't as effective as adding masculine elements to be a female body.
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>>739779909
YOUR MONEY IS NOW OUR MONEY
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>>739782179
If you're a man that's attracted to men, you're a faggot. It doesn't matter if you're into women too.

Most faggots like women too. I've met plenty of proud fags who are the biggest faggots you'll ever meet and they still are attracted to women too. I doubt there even exists a man who's solely attracted to men and has no interest whatsoever in women. So, basically, there's only straight people and bi people? Fuck that, they were always faggots. There's no reason to change what they're called when we already had a word for them.
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>>739782740
Would you do that to me
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>>739782743
holy fuck you're more dense than osmium
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>>739782666
MMOOAARR
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