I'm a 19 year old british Roman Catholic. Ask me anything?

File: ayyy.jpg (10KB, 225x225px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 225x225px

>>739651848
Why are you delusional?

>>739652074

I don't know, why am I delusional?

>>739652305

I take your point, but that isn't a question

>>739652358

Leviticus 18:22, mon amis

>>739651848
Do you pray the rosary?

>>739651848
Why do you faggots keep picking and choosing from the Bible if it's God's word?

>>739652526

I tend to alternate between the Rosary and Liturgy of the Hours. I swap monthly

>>739652561

Picking and choosing?

>>739651848
Are you though? Because nobody here believes in that god bollocks except 85 year olds and they're only praying the winter doesn't kill them.

>>739652670

Hahahaha

Yes, I am. I was born, baptised, raised, and continue to be Catholic

>>739652602
http://www.biblestudytools.com/nlt/leviticus/passage/?q=leviticus+15:19-33

Do you follow this OP?

>>739651848
I'm a 31 year old Canadian manic-depressive with a massive anxiety disorder who was raised Roman Catholic, but lost his faith after his grandfather died. I'm now a Nihilist, but have a strong foundation for being a good person despite no longer having faith in God or the Church.

My question: Will you have more resolve than I did?

A request: Save this thread, and remember it if you have a crisis of faith. Either take it as a reason to continue believing, or a reason to abandon it as I have.

>>739652740
Why though? Did you not receive an education or are you so thoroughly brainwashed by your family that you can't think for yourself?

>>739651848
Do you believe in heaven?

>>739652875
Additionally, I was being trained for the priesthood, and lead many prayer groups, and was in the service for ~10 years.

>>739652742
You appear to not be aware that Christianity has something called the New Testament. But of course, acknowledging that would take away from your edginess.

How does Muslim cock feel in your ass?

File: 201f016bd3a8576fc6cfc872ecac648e.jpg (16KB, 485x556px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 485x556px

>>739652742
I'm not OP, but I follow this, it isn't appropriate to ask BTW.

>>739652742

No, I don't. Not in practice. However, the message is a good one, and I follow that

Why the fuck doesn't God answer my prayers?

>>739652742
Jesus was put here to put a stop to all that jewy shit

>>739652875

My faith is a keystone of my life. I will not abandon it without a stellar

File: 1496838640764.jpg (28KB, 500x289px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 500x289px

>>739653098
Goddammit! You're edgy. Don't stop being
(You).
Faggot.

>>739652876

I'm currently at university studying physics, I am pretty well educated. I believe because I cannot see how life could be without God

>>739653201
Probably on account of the fact that a magic man in the sky is something only old people and the brainwashed believe in

>>739653201
Do you treat prayer like it is a wishing fountain?

>>739652924

Of course

File: IMG_20170715_193901.jpg (48KB, 720x303px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 720x303px

>>739653207

>>739653098

Ask the Jews ;)

Kidding!

Lev 18:22

>>739653387
Am I going to hell?

File: f3e.jpg (37KB, 600x560px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 600x560px

Why is our pope a cuck and not asking for another crusade?

>>739653326
Life is perfectly fine without believing in imaginary deities. There are plenty of works of fiction to read besides the bible.

>>739653201

Prayer is not answered directly. It is answered in our daily lives. We do not pray for events or absolutes, we pray for safety, well-being and happiness. That is when we see God's work in our lives

File: IMG_2711.jpg (95KB, 600x892px) Image search: [Google]

95KB, 600x892px

Was raised Roman Catholic, found it had no use in my life. Why do you continue to believe in magic people?

>>739651848
Why are you on /b/ ? A true Catholic wouldn't come anywhere near this place. I bet you're a paedo

>>739653492

He can answer that better than I can. I don't want a new crusade

>>739653637
No that's called you living your life you fuck

>>739653499

If your life is fine outside the faith, great! Mine wouldn't be, in my opinion

>>739653687

Magic People? I don't believe in any magic people

File: 0008386057.jpg (19KB, 500x332px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 500x332px

>>739653902

>>739653637
Talking to imaginary friends is in no way a guarantee of safety, well-being or happiness. Its absolutely mind blowing to me that there are still people so readily willing to believe such utter nonsense. Grow up.

>>739653717

Being a Catholic and liking 4chan are not mutually exclusive. And no, I'm not a paedo

File: sags_116520bd88_o.jpg (323KB, 1200x800px) Image search: [Google]

323KB, 1200x800px

>>739653949

>>739651848
who is the fattest person in heaven?

>>739653795
Fucking THIS

>>739653812
The problem with most atheists is that they care more about how others live their lives than any proselytizing born again Baptist ever could.

>>739651848
Do you worship satan?

>>739651848
Do you do anal so you stay a virgin?

>>739653795

Perhaps, so maybe God guides us all, whether we ask Him for help or not?

File: saggydeflatedtits.jpg (38KB, 447x591px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 447x591px

>>739653988

File: SCXLWQH.jpg (544KB, 1640x1680px) Image search: [Google]

544KB, 1640x1680px

>>739654106

Fucking Christians and their excuses.

>Hurr durr we follow the New Testament not the old one.
>Hurr durr the Big Bang was made by God, doesn't disprove him.

Fuck off.

>>739653812
Your life would be just fine. None of it is true, fucking obviously, so your life will be exactly the same.

File: zuzug.jpg (186KB, 1741x2858px) Image search: [Google]

186KB, 1741x2858px

>>739654147

>we don't follow the old testament
Not real Christians.
http://biblehub.com/2_timothy/3-16.htm

>>739651848
Opinions on the Orthodox church?

>>739654098
No, you guide yourself because you have a functioning brain and make your own decisions.

>>739653969

If it's utter nonsense, why has it had a consistent following for 2000 years? Do you really believe that life just *happened*? The universe just *appeared*?

>>739654030
Hahahaha no.

>>739654011

Good question. Not really sure.

Are you one of those bible thumpers? Like someone doesn't believe then you start throwing pocket sized bibles at them?

>>739651848

Do you all carry teddy bears around with you?

>>739654038

Only on Wednesdays

File: Screenshot_2017-04-11-15-24-38_kindlephoto-91634708.jpg (15KB, 388x388px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 388x388px

as a mexican with catholic parents I can say that ur fucking stupid for believing in a fucking "virgin" who gave birth to a "god" or "son of god" or "god assuming a human body" omg are religious people stupid. I hope ur girlfriend gets pregnant by "god" in otherwords, tyrone

>>739654093

No, though some people do. Never really appealed to me

>>739654322
Because people who can't comprehend anything else will believe whatever they think answers their questions about the universe. And no, the universe didn't just 'happen', it spread out from a single point. We don't yet know what was around before that but there are many promising theories, none of which involve a magical beardy man in the sky popping everything into existence in a week.

>>739651848
Do you listen to Arvo Part's music? I find it very moving. His Litany is one of my favorites.

>>739654157

Okay, if I took away your fundamental beliefs, something that you base your entire life around, could you carry on as though nothing had happened? Probably not. It's unfair to expect others to do so

>>739654322
Life evolved when atmospheric conditions allowed amino acids and proteins to gradually form cellular life. Read a book you fucking bible bashing retard.

>>739654250

I don't really know enough about it to have a detailed opinion, The Catholic church was the original church, and therefore the true Churcch

>>739654283

My brain cannot control external factors

>>739654382
Obviously you haven't seen any of the atheist responses in this thread. You should refresh your browser.

>>739654432

You mean a Gideon?

No, they're protestants. I respect people's right to an opinion

>>739654461

No, why?

>>739653234
As one who has been tested and failed, I hope you're stronger than I. I stand by my request, however; even if you think this is garbage or a troll, if you feel that you're in a crisis, look back to those who succeed and to those who fail.

Will you do this?

>>739654481

thanks?

>>739654747
I believe in what is scientifically proven because I'm not a retard who believes in magical pixies and unicorns. If what I believe in was taken away I would be like you.

>>739654666

I am acutely aware that there are many promising theories surrounding the Big Bang. Is the existence of God not among them?

>>739654673

I haven't previously, I will be sure to check it out

>>739654931
What? Of course it can. You have limbs and senses. You're free to manipulate and change the world to your heart's content. Without fucking dumb ancient beliefs you are a free man. God can't control 'external factors' either seeing as there is no such thing.

>>739654851

I know, I'm not an idiot. I just don't think that chance was behind it all

>>739655302
Here is his Magnificat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A6BfyhFSVQ

>>739655091

Thankyou. Yes, I will

>>739654944
Obviously you haven't seen any other religious people in your life. They have literally been foisting their beliefs on people for thousands of years, committing genocide and conquering.

>>739655185

So do I. The Big bang, relativity, evolution, the lot. I just believe in God, too.

Do you masturbate yourself?

>>739655229
No, it isn't. Religious fools would have men of science say it for fear of their safety, but realistically nobody in the scientific community gives any credence whatsoever to the thought that a magical being made everything in a week.

>>739655407

But supposing, hypothetically if you must see it so, that God *does* exist. How would you be able to comment on what life without God is like? How do you know there is no external force working to orchestrate this grand performance that is our existence?

>>739655758
Can one masturbate someone else?

>>739655410
>not an idiot
>believes in magic
Pick one

>>739655758

No, I don't.

>>739655956
Please see >>739654030

>>739655896

Only if they're the opposite sex, and only after marriage

>>739655666
That's called cognitive dissonance, the ability to hold two opposing opinions. All of those are backed up by decades, if not centuries of rigorous scientific study. Whereas the bible has precisely sweet FA for evidence.

>>739655956

I don't believe in magic... When did I ever say that?

>>739656172

Opposing opinions?

How exactly are they opposing opinions?

>>739655557
Good. Either you'll go down the same path I did or you'll be rejuvenated in your faith. Either way, enjoy life as great as you can see fit.

>>739655956
>implying the fact that I think you are an actual moron means I actually give any fucks whatsoever about how you live your deluded life

Get on with it, I couldn't really care less. People are merely trying to help you see reason.

>>739656354

I thank you. God bless :)

>>739656230
So you're saying a supposedly omniscient being creating the universe in 6 days is not magic? And his son was born from a virgin and can transmute liquids? If that isn't belief in magic I don't know what is.

How can you be Roman Catholic if you're from Britain?

>>739656487
Likewise, as much as it means from me. Ave Deus.

>>739656328
One of them is scientific fact, the other is fantastical fiction that flies in the face of the other

>>739656394

I don't think calling someone a retard and a moron is trying to show them reason. It's trying to prove you are somehow intellectually superior because you don't believe in God which, by the way, isn't true

>>739653637

Placebo effect. Nothing wrong with that btw. Whatever works for ya.

>>739656593

I don't think God created the universe in 6 days. That's absurd. I think, as do a few people, a 'day' in this sense represents a much greater passage of time. A couple of billion years, maybe?

>>739656727
There's no talking to you people. You believe in fucking magic. That doesn't make me intellectually superior necessarily, but holy shit does it garner me more respect from the scientific community and make me far less gullible than you.

>>739654568
Do you do oral?

>>739656657

Roman Catholic is anyone who follows the papacy

>>739656713

But my faith contradicts none of those theories..

>>739656657
Setting aside the fact that that isn't what Roman Catholic means, the British are partly roman you fucking tard. They invaded and took over the whole country of England. Didn't you go to school?

American Catholic here. I know Roman Catholicism is relatively rare in the U.K. What's it like, being in a country of lapsed Anglicans?

Have you heard of the university of Notre dame?

>>739656999

Nice trips :)

I don't believe in magic, I believe in God. There is a difference. Some of the world's most highly respected scientists are religious, as a member of the scientific community myself, I can tell you I receive no less respect from my colleagues because of my beliefs. Why? Because they support the science

>>>>739657031

Not until marriage

>>739657187
>Didn't you go to school?
Can't tell that it's a fucking joke

>>739657249

Yeah, most people here are CofE.

It's not all bad, you get used to them pretty quickly. A lot of C of E Christians think Catholicism to be a very extreme form of Christianity, so there's that. And Catholic churches are pretty sparse, but other than that it's fine

>>739657251

Of course :)

>>739656032
Do you have wet dreams then?

>>739657602
Oral is not sinful in Catholicism?

File: t3_6crcca.png (2MB, 1334x750px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1334x750px

>>739653201

When is crusade number 8 and jihad movement by Sarah else din the 2nd will take place why Jews are in control of the holy land WTF I thought it was for Muslims and christians at the same time lol

>>739658466

Not after marriage

>>739651848
What do you think "really" happened?
Come on, this is the 21st Century.

>>739658399

I never have

>>739660092

What do you mean?

>>739660189
We are talking about a superstitious pre-industrial society.

Right there the narrative is suspicious.
We can already imagine technology doing much if not all of what Jesus was credited with doing.

With that in mind, what actually happened 2000 years ago? What would it look like if it happened now?

>>739660093
Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.

>>739651848
Can you prove god exists?

>>739660425

I believe it happened as the bible tells it. What would it look like now? Considerably more convincing

>>739651848
Wtf are you doing on /b/ if you're such a good Christian who toooootally doesn't masturbate.

>>739660475

amen

>>739660739
But if we can already imagine technology that "raises people from the dead," why wouldn't Jesus' Resurrection appear sketchy?

>>739660582
Of course not, nobody can

>>739660838
More Christians would be better stable and functional in society if they remembered this.

>>739660903
Nobody can prove that He doesn't exist.

>>739660756

Not masturbating

>>739660739
>I believe it happened as the bible tells it.
Why would you? The Bible is full of metaphors and parables. Isn't it possible that Jesus's story isn't also metaphorical? The Gospels already have elements of Greek,Mesopotanian and Far Eastern mythologies..

File: Debarkle.jpg (486KB, 900x600px) Image search: [Google]

486KB, 900x600px

>>739651848
Exactly how retarded do you need to be to believe pic related actually happened? Could you somehow quantify the retardation?

>>739661022
You have the burden of proof because you are the believer.

>>739660853

I suppose it would. That's a very interesting point

>>739661063
>>739660739

All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.

>>739661165
Not OP, but quantum mechanics could allow for a structure like the Ark to have shit-tons of space for pretty much anything.

>>739651848
oh shit, me too OP

>>739661063

You're right, it is. But the new testament differs significantly in its methodology from the OT. Namely, it is written as an account of the life of a person we know existed written by people we know existed

>>739661213
But see, that's circular logic.

How do you explain that Jesus is a version of the Hero myth, that many of his deeds echo previous works of literature that precede Christianity?

>>739652561
It ain't fam. Do some research.

>>739661165
Not OP but about as retarded as you need to be to not be able to analyze and interpret literature.

File: Cwazy dawg.jpg (110KB, 360x502px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 360x502px

>>739661249
What does quantum mechanics have to say about kangaroos making a 10,000km journey across an ocean to get on a boat?

>>739661378
But we don't, really. There are only two mentions of Jesus. Why isn't his death recorded in Roman documents? Or at least a reference?

Jesus appears to be a composite of many different people claiming to be "the Messiah."

>>739661165

It probably didn't look like that.

>>739652875
>nihilist
>being a good person
Choose one

>>739661479
Transporting technology?

>>739653201
Like God would even grant your shitty wishes if he existed

>>739661381
Oh I'm not OP. Who says you need to? Who wants to? Lame waste of time. I've got these bills I'm paying while I'm looking at 4chan to take breaks from how much paper work I have. You know when it says "vanity of vanties," it's talking about the futility of shit like your little pissing contest you got going with OP.

What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?

One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.

All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.

>>739661022
The burden of proof falls on the one making the positive claim. By that same reasoning, you also have to entertain the possibility that there are unicorns and vampires out there. Why? Because you can't prove they DON'T exist.

File: cuntmaggot.jpg (5KB, 299x168px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 299x168px

>>739661407
>interpret literature

Is that christfag-code for "it did not actually happen"?

>>739661891
You're still some kind of pathetic christfag
lol

Did you convert before or after Jimmy Saville raped you?

>>739661505

Only two mentions by name, maybe. But the whole NT is written about him. There are some very reliable primary sources that indicate Christ's historicity

File: 1476410018019.png (871KB, 800x578px) Image search: [Google]

871KB, 800x578px

>>739651848

>>739661963
No, that's normal person blatant for "interpret literature." Perhaps I should say "interpret ancient literature."

If the Bible has you this triggered, don't read the Bhagavad Gita. You'll have a little piss pants college student safe space needing panic attack.

>>739662125

Oh, Fr. Saville showed me the light.

Kidding.

Jimmy Saville never raped me

>>739651848
You're a potato nigger aren't you

>>739662167
The NT is a collection of edited documents produced by the winners of wars and political conflicts, basically.

What other "reliable primary sources" are you referring to?

Somewhat unrelated to the topic at hand, but it's reasoning that is bad or flawed. Not "logic". Logic is logic. Reasoning is attempting to use logic in a way that is consistent with itself.

>>739662062
That's the Old Testament, kid. I don't know where you're seeing Christ anywhere in that thing I posted. Are you sure you know how to read?

>>739660003
Wrong.

>>739662169

kek'd

No, because Leviticus 18:22

>>739662188
Let's see if you can answer a straight question with a straight answer. Do you believe a dude built a boat thousands of years ago and put two of every animal on the boat. Yes or no?

>>739662331

You mean Irish?

Nope, English

>>739660093
You must have low testosterone

File: Akiane Kramarik - Prince of Peace.jpg (263KB, 1200x1600px) Image search: [Google]

263KB, 1200x1600px

>>739661381

Croatian/Austrian Catholic here. Family has been Catholic for millenia. I'm here to support my GB Catholic brother who, in a land that has forsaken him, continues to carry the torch of truth.

As for mr. hero myth here, boy did you just goof bringing up myth and Christianity.
Would you like me to destroy your "gotcha" argument seeing as you probably haven't read a single Hero myth in your life?

>>739662409
So the old T is not true?

>>739662409
>kid.
just shut up faggot

get out of this fucking thread

Do you honestly believe that a 900 year old man built a fucking huge boat big enough for 2 of each fucking animal. when geology alone proves no such flood ever took place

>>739662380

Have a read of Josephus' Antiquities 18 and 20

>>739662720
>As for mr. hero myth here, boy did you just goof bringing up myth and Christianity.
>Would you like me to destroy your "gotcha" argument seeing as you probably haven't read a single Hero myth in your life?

You wouldn't.

And Jesus not only resembles figures in many legends, but also gods like Dionysus. And Jesus's altruistic nature is lifted right out of Confucianism.

Explain this.

>>739662500

Yes, I do

>>739662500
No of fucking course not and who gives a shit if people do or don't? Anyone who says that believing the book to the T is part of the entire doctrine is wrong.

>>739662702

Perhaps

>>739662551
then why haven't you converted to Islam?

>>739662720

Thankyou brother, God bless you

File: 1480473781757.jpg (22KB, 250x385px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 250x385px

>>739662457

>>739662804
Dude. The books of the Old and new are books. They're books. Written by people who were WRITERS. Have you met many writers? Do you know how many drugs they do? How fucked up their minds are? Neither of them are "true" in the sense that every word is 100% historically accurate fact. Anyone who thinks they are is just blind.

>>739662834
Are you serious??
Do you understand the difference between Catholicism and Fundamental Christianity or are you so lazy that you just lump them all under the same heading?

This idea of taking the Bible literally was addressed by the Catholic Saint Augustine around 300AD. You're literally repeating an argument that's 1700 years old and throwing it around like you just re-invented the wheel

"All these things [Jerusalem, Sarah and Hagar, the smitten rock] stood for something other than what they were, but all the same they were themselves bodily realities. And when the narrator mentioned them he was not employing figurative language, but giving an explicit account of things which had a forward reference that was figurative. So then the tree of life also was Christ….He is rightly called whatever came before him in order to signify him. (The Literal Meaning of Genesis 8.4.8)

Anything in the divine discourse that cannot be related either to good morals or to the true faith should be taken as figurative."

Why are you a gay guy pretending to be a woman?

File: Poor little Pinkus.png (530KB, 710x534px) Image search: [Google]

530KB, 710x534px

>>739663096
Okay, so you're retarded. Bye.

>>739662823
>get outta this thred fagit u dont belong on /b/ summerfag newfag fagfag

Did your mom fuss at you today

>>739662834

I believe it's more than possible. The bible gives the dimensions and the dimensions check out

>>739662986
It's still pretty obscure stuff. I can see how conservative Christian scholars might be obligated to take it at face value.

See, my argument is that the Gospels were actually very secret writings that only the Gnostics would know the true meaning of, and that we're getting the watered down version handed down by kings and rulers of empires.

>>739663519
shut up troll

>>739663538
your ignorance is absolutely mindblowing.

File: IMG_7698.gif (25KB, 162x200px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 162x200px

>>739663159

>>739663538
You are aware that Ken Ham of Answers In Genesis has already built the Ark in Kentucky?

>>739663136
So a guy building a boat and filling it with two of every animal makes no sense? Fair enough.

What about an invisible guy waving a magic wand and zapping up an entire universe. Does that make sense?

>>739663538
the bible says that Noah lived to be 950 years old. hmm does that check out? no

>>739663612
>shut up troll
omfg lmfao lollerskates

>>739663699
he built an ark using cranes, machinery and hundreds of trained workers. unlike what the bibble says

>>739663758
Bro. You were not there...

>>739663056
I wouldn't what?
Tell you your argument is literally a thousand years old? That in your laziness you didn't even have the intellectual fortitude to do a little studying up on the subject instead of spouting an argument as pathetic as it is tenuous?

But, since I am a man of God and you are my brother whom I love, i will do the work for you.

As for your claim that Jesus is a copy of the hero myth, citing Dionysus (lets add Mithras, Vishnu/Kali in there as well and all the other lazy comparisons which were dried up around the 1920's) let me ask you this:

What is the common thread amongst all of these Hero myths? (let's take "The Golden Bough" by Sir Frazer as the perfect analysis of comparative mythology for now)

File: Newman!.gif (499KB, 500x375px) Image search: [Google]

499KB, 500x375px

>>739663699
>Ken Ham

>>739663621

Ignorance? How?

File: a27cd38fdd98fd592bb34c5c0928847f.jpg (48KB, 640x427px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 640x427px

>>739651848
What seperates your religion from other christian-esque religions?

Pic related, its my religion

>>739663747
No, idiot, have you heard of the big bang, or evolution, or atoms?

>>739663842
never said i was there. but hey you guys like to believe everything in the bible is GOD WORD.

>>739662834
not than anon but there is evidence that the Flood myth is based on the Black Sea flooding.

http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/feature/noahs-not-so-big-flood

>>739663825
I'm aware of that fact. It cost a few millions if I remember correctly and it took much longer than Noah and his crew took to build it. With MODERN tools no less.

>>739663944
Sun comes up sun goes down. You can't explain that.

>>739651848
How many kids have you molested?

>>739663239

And you, brother.
Keep carrying the torch. More than ever the light of Christ and his divine Mercy is needed in this wicked world

>>739663914

Every sect of Christianity has its own peculiarities. It'd take ages to compare Catholicism to all others

>>739663893
>(lets add Mithras, Vishnu/Kali in there as well

Funny how Mithras and Jesus both have the same birthday, anon

you're just proving my point

The Jesus myth is a composite of earlier writings.

>>739664056
Bill O'Reilly, get outta here.

>>739663893
>What is the common thread amongst all of these Hero myths?

That there is a tale of a great man who did great things, was killed and resurrected in some way.

Every fucking time. Come on.

>>739663975
No it's the Koran bro and it is Allah's word.

File: goldjerrygold.jpg (14KB, 400x225px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 400x225px

this thread is gold

>>739664056
Yeah, earth's rotation doesn't mean shit, huh?

In case you were never aware, turns out there are people who consider themselves Christians but see allegory and metaphor and symbolism when it's obvious and don't see a fucking textbook of the universe when they read the Bible.

>>739664058

At my last count, 0

>>739664167
Do it live

>>739663914
>>739664099

Perhaps this short article by GK Chesterton will make it more clear.
He was an anglican who converted to Catholicism after a lifetime of searching for the truth

https://www.chesterton.org/why-i-am-a-catholic/

>>739664281
Derp.

>>739664289
Kekasaurus rekts Bill

>>739664330
I don't read shitty articles

>>739664284
Then you are not a true Catholic.

File: Jocular Jesus.jpg (24KB, 650x366px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 650x366px

>>739664281
>In case you were never aware, turns out there are people who consider themselves Christians but see allegory and metaphor and symbolism when it's obvious and don't see a fucking textbook of the universe when they read the Bible.

Others see it as a colossal, gigantic, wheelbarrowful of fresh, steaming pig shit.

>>739664338
Also, while I'm just thinking outloud I'm gonna challenge the other Christians here:

All things are permissible. There are no prohibitions on behaviors or activities. The Law has been fulfilled. Do you not remember Calvary?

הֲבֵל הֲבָלִים אָמַר קֹהֶלֶת, הֲבֵל הֲבָלִים הַכֹּל הָבֶל.

Catholicism is bullshit

File: IMG_7705.gif (1MB, 500x328px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 500x328px

>>739664617

>>739664679
As far as you know, anon. The truth could be that the Word of God was Law, and you disobeyed it.

>>739664403
Shitty article or not, the plural of anecdote is not "evidence". He could drop 1000 articles of conversion stories. It doesn't matter. By the same reasoning, any and all articles in which a catholic became atheist (or whatever) should be equally convincing.

>>739652740
you were brainwashed. you are just too stupid to realize that there isn't a God

File: Barry M.jpg (1MB, 2998x1992px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2998x1992px

>>739664696

>>739664679
I can't read moon-runes

>>739664796
Derp

>>739664859
That guy looks like a wax figure of himself

>>739664778
How can one be Christian but not adhere to the new covenant? The laws were a part of the old covenants and those have been fulfilled by Jesus. The terms of the new covenant are simple and clear.

>>739664924
did you get braindamaged by one of the priests who molested you anon?

>>739664924
Herperino Derpatrino

>>739664851

>too stupid

Hardly. I am merely a man of honest faith in God

>>739664874

It's Hebrew

>>739664121

>Funny how Mithras and Jesus both have the same birthday, anon

This is called strengthening the oppositions argument in order for it to look even sillier when it is torn down. It is a common debate strategy.
I could probably even make your point stronger by saying that Mithras and Dionysus too resurrected from the dead.
I could also tell you that they were also supposed to have been born from virgins.

Oh my goodness... the weight of the evidence!! Its so overwhelming.

Well let me start by saying that the comparisons are actually completely false and that all these comparisons were brought together in a single book which has already been debunked as hackneyed and not scholarly. Find it yourself, i won't do it all for you. Here's an easily digestible video that may set you on the right path

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muM7Uk40iRE

Secondly, the fact that the life of Jesus (who was a real person - no serious historian would deny that fact) shares many similarities to Hero stories is precisely the point, but it is the difference that make, well, all the difference.

Look up Rene Girard (French philosopher who was inducted into the French Immortals. What does this mean? It means he's on the mount rushmore of French Philosophy.)
Rene Girard discovered the difference between Christianity and Hero Myths based on his theory of mimetic desire and the scapegoating mechanism attached to it. Would you like me to explain this to you? Only if you ask nicely and respectfully.

File: IMG_7624.png (2MB, 1334x750px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1334x750px

>>739664987
Your dad.

>>739664987
Jesus said keep the Old Testament Laws, though. That means no faggots.

Catholicism is Christianity
There is only one church.
They are all still a part of the same church, regardless of what protestants think. They are just worshipping incorrectly by not taking part in the sacraments and practicing without a direct lineage to Peter as catholics do.

>>739665035

No. I already believed before he molested me.

>>739651848
God bless you, OP.

>>739653083
OP quoted OT so the fedoras quote OT. What's the problem?

>>739665221
old testament law never said anything about being gay
The passage about lying with a man or an animal as one would with a woman is about forcible rape. It's okay to rape women, but not other men or animals.

>>739665173
>Well let me start by saying that the comparisons are actually completely false

Except for the fact that the earlier religions came first and Christianity appears to have totally stolen concepts from them.

>strengthening the oppositions argument

nope
you were just caught giving two examples of previous versions of Jesus

it's a crock anon. You don't even know wtf you supposedly believe.

>>739665260
Yes Jesus said to pray to dead humans other then him. Praying to a saint is idol worship

>>739664403

I'll take that as "I don't read" period... Nice work there, kid. I'll pray for you.

>>739664796
At least this is an argument... And i'll agree with you on that point. Then weigh his arguments with those of atheists.. He spent most of his life debating George Bernard Shaw who is a greater mind than everyone in this thread combined and he still got the better of him. Here... I'll do the work for you - again.

https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/chesterton/gk/george-bernard-shaw/

Its funny how you believe in an All wise god that apparently created the fucking universe, but dont you dare mix wool and linen woven together

>>739665325

And you, Grace and peace to you from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ

>>739665173
>Jesus (who was a real person - no serious historian would deny that fact)

Atheism has only been seriously allowed in society for less than 150 years, if even that. Of course it's frowned upon for historians to question that paradigm.

>>739665173
Can we see a pic of your penis? Even a drawing would be nice.

>>739665476
Catholics don't worship saints. They pray for intercession from the saints on their behalf.

>>739665173
>Rene Girard discovered the difference between Christianity and Hero Myths based on his theory of mimetic desire and the scapegoating mechanism attached to it. Would you like me to explain this to you? Only if you ask nicely and respectfully.


Your dogmatic insistence doesn't discount the observations I've already presented.

Jesus is a composite of heroes and figures of mythology and legends.

You can't just seriously handwave this away.

>>739665430
Yes it well fucking did. Something about not wasting your seed on anything other than a womb, remember? Which makes you pretty a huge sinner, you wanker.

yall faglords can go Catho-lick my nuts

>>739665430

That... that's not true.

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is abomination"

No mention of rape

>>739665430
See: Sodom and Gomorrah. The wicked wanted to have sexual intercourse with the Angels.
Being gay was not good with God, anon. Stop revising theology.

O LORD, God of my salvation, what time I cry in the night before Thee,

Let my prayer come before Thee, incline Thine ear unto my cry.

For my soul is sated with troubles, and my life draweth nigh unto the grave.

I am counted with them that go down into the pit; I am become as a man that hath no help;

Set apart among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom Thou rememberest no more; and they are cut off from Thy hand.

Thou hast laid me in the nethermost pit, in dark places, in the deeps.

Thy wrath lieth hard upon me, and all Thy waves Thou pressest down. Selah

Thou hast put mine acquaintance far from me; Thou hast made me an abomination unto them; I am shut up, and I cannot come forth.

Mine eye languisheth by reason of affliction; I have called upon Thee, O LORD, every day, I have spread forth my hands unto Thee.

Wilt Thou work wonders for the dead? Or shall the shades arise and give Thee thanks? Selah

Shall Thy mercy be declared in the grave? or Thy faithfulness in destruction?

Shall Thy wonders be known in the dark? and Thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?

But as for me, unto Thee, O LORD, do I cry, and in the morning doth my prayer come to meet Thee.

LORD, why castest Thou off my soul? Why hidest Thou Thy face from me?

I am afflicted and at the point of death from my youth up; I have borne Thy terrors, I am distracted.

Thy fierce wrath is gone over me; Thy terrors have cut me off.

They came round about me like water all the day; they compassed me about together.

Friend and companion hast Thou put far from me, and mine acquaintance into darkness.

>>739665436

Did you read a single word I wrote?

When i told you to look up Rene Girard did you even try? Are you so afraid of reading something that may change your view? Isn't that what life is about? To be flexible in thought until you find the truth?
Here... again, I'll make it easy for you. This is an interview with Girard before he died. It's an EXTREMELY condensed version of his thought which took him 20 years to compile but it should give even an ignorant lout like you an idea of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNkSBy5wWDk

>>739665622
Lawyerly tricks

File: gajillion.jpg (28KB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 250x250px

>>739665389
Your magic faggot zapped up the universe in the old T with his magic wand. It's on page 1. That's the problem.

>>739665711
The story of Onan is not about wasting your seed. It's about doing your familial duty and siring offspring for your brother by his wife if he is unable. Onan (understandibly) wanted no part of that shit.

>>739653492
why do you wait for master? catholics waiting for the pope to crusade are his cucks.