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It's 2017, stop being transphobic.

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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It's 2017, stop being transphobic.
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stfu you mentally ill faggot
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B-but i'm not...
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>>739486617
fuck you guys are almost as bad as niggers
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OP, you are the type of people that make people want to kill themselves
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>>739486617
i know OP is probably baiting but iused to hate all this more than 2 gender shit but im more open minded now. we don't force homosexual people to conform and identify to society's 'norm' (that is, heterosexuality), at least not nowadays, so why should we force people who to fit into society's 'norm' of the 2 gender system? A third gender really isn't all that unnatural, there are countless examples of communities and cultures across the world, particularly Asia and Africa, adopting genders outside of the usual male/female system.
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>>739486617
Fuck off cunt
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>>739487817
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>>739486617
I don't need to tell everyone I meet that I like chicks. I don't need to tell every person ever what I "feel" like today. If I awnt to dress up in pretty pink tutus and dance around whackin' it in my sister's panties, that's my choice... I don't need to fucking tell everyone. Unless you intend to get into a serious relationship with someone or there is definitely going to be sex involved at some point, nobody needs to know shit about what you want to fuck or how screwed up your brain is. If these niggers would just the fuck up once in a while they wouldn't have these problems. Goddamned snowflakes
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not good enough
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>>739486617
Every trans person I have ever met came from a toxic environment where the expectations for them based on their biological sex sent them reeling.

One was raped by her (now his) grandfather as a child.
One was told to give up on school by her dumbass alcoholic parents so that they could work to pay their bills.
One came from a little town where every teen did meth except her and half of her female friends ended up being meth whores by the end of high school.

Whenever someone tells me that they're trans, I think, "This person has been through some shit that has made them reject something so basic about themselves, I should treat them kindly and respectfully".

I suspect many non-trans people feel the same way. You're identity is not being "accepted", it's just that your humanity and complex history is being recognized and we don't want to hurt your feelings so we just let you be.
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>>739487817

Asia and Africa are well known for being shining beacons of social progression, we should absolutely accept their wonderful systems in the first world
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>>739488658
I know few people that are not trans, but bisexual or lesbian. All of them came from shitty families or relationships. Don't know a single person who has lived a normal life that he suddenly decides to change his gender or sexuality.
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>>739487817
Language is often a reflection of culture, so I think looking at how sex is treated in languages around the world can be pretty revealing: http://wals.info/feature/31A#2/21.4/142.7
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>>739489107
here's number of genders around the world: http://wals.info/feature/30A#2/21.0/149.6
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>>739489229
Good, my country has only 2.
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>>739486617
>baiting with an image of a transgender person who is trying to de-escalate rhetoric and is shitting on the DID U ASSUME MY GENDER crowd

wew lad
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Great. The fags from Reddit are really trying to infect /b/ now.

Same retarded people want us to have a registry of all guns in the country so we can know where they are at all times, but say immigrants can stay here undocumented and we don't really need to know anything about them.
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>>739486617
NEWSFLASH: THIS JUST IN, YOU WERE ALWAYS A JOKE
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>>739488658

The only trans person I know personally is autistic and has always been a complete fucking weirdo, reinforcing my belief that it's just mental illness
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>>739486617
This thread again
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>>739489737
Oh yes, your values are so right and important, the only way they could ever be disputed here is by conspiracy. It has to be the Reddit! Certainly no oldfags could have trans friends, or have experiences differing from >>739490176, >>739489026, and >>739488658.
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>>739486617
Did you assume my gender?
>Looks like a man
>Talks like a man
>Has fucking stubble

Yes I fucking did.
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>>739490864
it's funny that you think you can change this place because you had a couple gay friends one time. even if all the mods on all the boards are just as cancerous as you are you STILL can't control the people who browse. end of story. get over it and move on
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>>739491067
My goal is not to change people, only to express an opinion, same as everyone else here. The way you read into motives that aren't there says a lot though.
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>>739491193
and what does it say to you, anon? ears wide open.
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>>739486617
Transphobic/Homophobic implies fear.

People aren't fearful of trannies. They just think they're mentally ill and idiots. Lately they've been pushy, mouthy pains in the ass. They look at tranny porn where they dress up as a woman and make out with a guy. Suddenly the dick comes out and the guy is like "Well, i've made it this far, I may as well go full fag and have sex with the tranny faggot."

But like bangbus, it is a fiction. This is usually the end result of those encounters.

It's a shame it doesn't happen more often.
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>>739491480
i'm afraid of that dead tranny in blackface. mods pls delet so i can feel safe again
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>>739488658
How the hell does that work? I mean, I get the rape one, but how does "my drunk ass parents made me quit school and work at McDonalds. Wearing a dress and hormone treatments is the next logical step."
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>>739491332
It says that when you look at liberals, you see what you want to see. You're guided by assumptions that often fail, and my guess is if you were to actually act on those assumptions, you'd inadvertently cause a lot of hostility. I can only hope that you have more sense than that offline.
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Top kuk https://youtu.be/ZrAfMDAqzLg
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>>739489229
no label for my country rip
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>>739490176
I have yet to see a tranny that wasn't a mentally scarred basketcase. Weirdly, a lot of them are niggers. In Chicago, if you go to boystown about 12-3 a.m., you will constantly see tranny niggers getting into fights in the middle of the street when the bars let out.

The only reason trannies aren't considered mentally ill was because a bunch of fags protested the DSM back in the 60's and early 70's. They were invited to produce evidence to the contrary. They couldn't, so instead they protested, disrupted the proceedings, cried and yelled and stomped their feet. Eventually, the DSM review board finally capitulated.

Because when a logical argument is impossible, you can always win by making an emotional one instead.
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>>739491660
now look at those assumptions. if you were as perceptive as you think, you would've said nothing because it wouldn't matter what i think. but apparently it does matter what i think and say and that influence YOUR decisions doesn't it? fuck other people let's talk you and me, buddy.

now i'm going to make a series of assumptions about you based on what you just said.

you are liberal
you are also misguided by assumptions
you think you're better than your fellow man
you are a faggot
you defend people who don't need it
you self righteously think you're doing it for a higher cause
you have as much sense as the next faggot

did i nail it?
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>>739491857
That means your country has no native language, lol
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>>739492412
tl;dr
some people just can't accept criticism I guess
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>>739487817
It's fantastic that ancient cultures and traditions can keep going in their native lands. Certainly they don't need us coming over to tell them how to handle their language and culture.

If transgender people start exceeding an extremely tiny minority, our language and culture will change as needed. The resistance to this shit is how incredibly forced it all is. When you advocate so strongly for the tiniest minorities you risk alienating the majority.
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>>739492575
i guess some people can't explain why they believe things either. they just expect everyone to read their mind and accept them for "who they are"
kek faggot kys
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Transexualism is unnatural.
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>>739486617

it's 2017, science proves two genders, stop being trans you fucking ingrate
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I can be whatever I want to be, isn't that pretty much your argument?

No matter how you idiots that don't understand etymology try and twist words, hating something is not a phobia, fucking retarded wankers.

A phobia is a fear, as in you are scared shitless about something, like heights or injections. Transphobia in the manner you are using it is wrong, it's not a word, anyone that uses that word is a fucking idiot.

I also don't care if that shit is in a dictionary, it's only in there because absolute mongbags with an IQ in the single digits kept spouting it, fuck YOLO is in the dictionary these days.
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>>739492888
bill nye said otherwise. i believe television science
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>>739486617
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This chart outlines their delusions.

I'm sure it's changed as more have been added/changed.

This is what happens when kids are told that all their ideas are valid and worthwhile. It's like the clubs kids create as children, where the rules keep changing, with made up symbols and signs, and eventually it collapses due to infighting. But instead of "you're not my friend anymore" they begin a social media harassment campaign.
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>>739486617
it's 2017.
stop playing pretend and seek therapie.
gender dysphoria is a serious mental disorder, and more often then not end ins suicide.
HRT and sex-change-OP's only prolong the suffering of the patient, since his confusion about his body is suddenly supported by ther environment and therefore manifests to a degree where it can't be treated normally anymore.

many people with gender dysphoria will start to feel deep regret after sucessfully transitions, since their original issues still exist: their urge to flee their lives, and the roles they imagine to be put on them. No one forces them to do anything, yet they feel pressured (by none other than themselves)

Stop the madness and safe lives, by not supporting the made-up illusions from gender-dysphoria sufferers.
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>>739493355
>inb4 grammar
tired as fuck
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>>739486617
If post modernism, where this gender bending phenomenon comes from is true, then there is no such thing as gender and there is no such thing as being mis-gendered because gender is a social construct and thus not a real thing.
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>>739493280
> social media harassment campaign.
With the goal of destroying your means of survival (work). It is one of the most sickening things to me - using deceptive language and mob tactics to ruin the lives of those they disagree with.
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>>739493355
>and more often then not end ins suicid

The problem kinda solves itself then. Saves us the energy of beating the piss out of them.

Also nice doubledubs.
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>>739493063
I'm still waiting for him to cite what journal this was published in.
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>>739493611
rhymes with ballskeet
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>>739486617
>Being misgendered
>Gender is a social construct and not real
Oh you silly liberals. You've spun such a web of lies that you can't keep track of it all anymore.
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>>739487817
>2 gender system
*human biology
insanity does not negate your innate mammalian biology, cunt.
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>>739493534
yea, fuck you too.
I meant what I said about gender dysphoria.
Still I'd stomp the shit out of anyone who feels justified in using violence against people just on the merit that they are different.

even tho they beat a dead horse with the term recently, you are the stereotype of what a transphobic person is.
Man up and care more about your decisions than those of others IF they don't affect you in the slightest, anyways.
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>>739491480
I agree completely phobia implies fear and no ones is afraid of them. However as culture changes so does language. In todays society phobia can also mean resentment or hatred or dislike of something or a group.
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>>739486617
>transphobic
Fear of transgenders? nope, not at all.

But, sometimes I get it wrong sometimes, and don't get it wrong intentionally.

I was taught for my entire youth to say Yes sir, no sir, yes ma'am, and no ma'am. - as a form of respectful speech.

Intention means everything
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>>739486617
The fact that transsexual surgery doesn't decrease the suicide rate proves that the issue isn't one that can be treated by pandering to their delusions.
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>>739494439
and because it's such a convoluted term, people react aggressively upon being labeled with it. Using it almost always means to misrepresent someone.
Even tho exceptions like this >>739493534 certainly exist.
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>>739486617
When is the trans meme going to end?

It's got to be going out of fashion at some time
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>>739494659
generation z looks promising on that regard...
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>>739493534
>The problem kinda solves itself then. Saves us the energy of beating the piss out of them.

exactly. if only the jewish problem would also solve itself like the transgender problem does.
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>>739494724
https://bbs.dailystormer.com/t/i-am-a-genzennial-and-here-is-how-we-ll-save-the-world/121945
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>>739494739
>if only the jewish problem

What is the Jewish problem? too many award winning scientific discoveries that help all of mankind?
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>>739493038
See
>>739494439
Look at all the defintions of the word phobia. Its being used correctly
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>>739494915
>What is the Jewish problem? too many award winning scientific discoveries that help all of mankind?

lol, le superior jew meme. go away shlomo.
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>>739494659
It's definitely a fad, but it won't pass for another five years or so.

Hell you can't even research it properly. According to the Guardian the last time they tried to accurately define the problem, they found that something like 3/5 of all test subjects on transsexualism end up missing, drop out of the tests, or kill themselves. This ends up fucking up test results to be more significant than they are. The attempts to normalise this shit in the last 5 years has really fucked up how scientists can look in to this. According to the current political climate, you're now looking in to a cultural identity, not a mental illness, and as such you've got to be careful at what you're releasing.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth
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>>739493755
>Still I'd stomp the shit out of anyone who feels justified in using violence against people just on the merit that they are different.

Shit, we should keep you away from pretty much every middle eastern country. It's be a fucking bloodbath.

And eastern europe.

And sub-saharan africa.

and pretty much any country that isn't completely westernized where we've been steadily been force-fed a diet of "gays are ok" by hollywood, a large percentage of whom are gay.

But public opinion isn't completely driven by those who have control of films/news/literature, right?

Because we're ENLIGHTENED. And everyone else is wrong. Our natural instinct for homogenization is wrong. Something to be overcome, not something that ensures stability within a primate social structure, right?

Because homosexuality and transexualism is natural. Granted it goes against the biological nature of the organism, but if enough people say it's okay, then it's okay, right?

Because nothing says "natural" like meatball surgery and a lifetime of synthetic hormones to approximate another gender, or mating with another of your sex despite the natural purpose of sex is to procreate.
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>>739494915
If only they kept to that arena, they wouldn't be the most historically hated group in the world.

Everywhere they go they seem to be disliked. It's as if they all collectively have a huge character flaw.

But that's impossible. Because..the holocaust or tolerance and acceptance doctrines.
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>>739495262
Sure do wish I never watched that Webm
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>>739495262
why must you waste your time trying to explain reality to a queer who would say:
>>Still I'd stomp the shit out of anyone who feels justified in using violence against people just on the merit that they are different.
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>>739495149
no, seriously though, why do you hate the Jews?

It's not a superior Jew meme. It's a statement about Jewish contributions to humanity that helps earn them their place as peaceful productive people in the world.
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>>739486617
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>>739487817
t. mentally ill fucktard
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>>739495434
>If only they kept to that arena,

What do you think the Jews would do if they could do anything they wanted?

What would the Palestinians do if they could do anything they wanted?
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>>739495607
>peaceful
That's funny. There's a reason Jews were expelled from most nations they infested throughout history. They deserved it.
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>>739495262
put down your pink feindbild-googles.
I oppose the muslim, leftist and communist ideologies as much as you, but I'm also not a hypocrite.
If you want to claim to be better than them, you have to uphold your principles at least as much as them.
Capitalism, democracy and egalitarian humanism. These are my principles, and I'm more than fine with waging wars based on them.

What you are is just a simple fascist, someone who would use violence to spread his ideology and preferences in the behavior of people. I'd only use violence to DEFEND mine, but you can be sure as hell, that I wouldn't limit the amount of violence I use too much in this regard.
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>>739495598
>to a queer
cis white male
in fact, an arian german.
Try again.
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>>739495607
>no, seriously though, why do you hate the Jews?
if you knew anything of history (2000 years of it) then you would not say such a stupid thing.

and since it is clear that you know fuck all about history, your position of 'le jew is superior' is worthless.
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>>739495908
so, lets put on the tinfoil hats and go down this rabbit hole:
what has history taught you?
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>>739486617
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>>739495731
>What would the Palestinians do if they could do anything they wanted?

The world has shown itself eager to destroy all the Jews more than once in that last century.

Hamas, the ruling power of the Palestinians has a specifically genocidal charter. It looks forward to a time based upon Qur'anic prophesy when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood. Yes, their political document is genocidal, and they were voted in by the majority of Palestinians.

We know what the Palestinians would do, because they're telling the world their only intent is to kill every Jewish man woman and child.
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>>739495453
Oh it gets better. Here's Dr. Frank N. Furter having a good look at his fancy new vagina.

With Body Identity Integrity Disorder, a person feels like they shouldn't have a limb. But no ethical surgeon would ever amputate a healthy limb. They would recommend psychological treatment, anti-psychotics and a whole host of other potential solutions.

But because fags yelled and stomped and cried and held their breath back in the 60's/70's, forcing psychiatrists to say it's not a mental illness, they'll happily lop off your dick, turn it inside out and reattach it into you, and pump you full of drugs so you can play Pretend for the rest of your life.

Which is generally not a long time, fortunately. As the Gape Crusader mentioned earlier, they tend to kill themselves at an astonishing rate. It's almost like they weren't supposed to survive.

Fun fact: Bradley Manning, who's going by Chelsea these days, was given reassignment treatment while in federal custody for treasonous acts committed not because of any content of the communications, but because he didn't like american foreign policy. And we pardoned him because gay and because he had hurt feelings.

And our taxes paid for his surgery. Yay.
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>>739496004
you think I'm going to sit here and go through 2000 years of history for you because you are a lazy cunt? think again faggot.
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>>739496089
Sorry. Military custody. not federal. My bad.
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>>739486617
phobic means fear, why would In fear you weak individuals?
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>>739492038
NNYYYOOOOOOMMMM
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>>739486617
i don't give a fuck, be whatever you want and stop bitching and moaning about it., nobody gives any more fucks about you than any other stranger.
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>>739492038
dude wut is the fukin story on that webm? rekt kek
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>>739495908
>if you knew anything of history (2000 years of it) then you would not say such a stupid thing.

What do you think you know about Jews? Is this an age old tired grudge that has nothing to do with Israel today.

If Israel could do anything it wanted, it would be to live in peace among its neighbors and likely build up its high tech sector.

You benefit from a Jewish state, but yet you have genocidal intentions toward them?

What contributions have Palestine made for the world? How many Nobel prize winning discoveries come from Muslims or Palestinian Muslims?

What, the virtues of martyrdom?
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>>739496208
no, I'm sitting here and expect you to spill some epic-tier revisionism of historic events to justify why you are just a national-socialist goon.
Still waiting btw...
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The truth is that everything you need to know about the moral imbalance between Israel and her enemies can be understood on the topic of human shields. Who uses human shields? Well, Hamas certainly does. They shoot their rockets from residential neighborhoods, from beside schools, and hospitals, and mosques. Muslims in other recent conflicts, in Iraq and elsewhere, have also used human shields. They have laid their rifles on the shoulders of their own children and shot from behind their bodies.
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>>739496305
Black Trannies had a little impromptu fashion walk in the middle of the street.

They acted out, and learned what most 5 year olds already know: Don't play in the street.

But trannies live in a delusional fantasy world.
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>>739496337
>You benefit from a Jewish state, but yet you have genocidal intentions toward them?
We absolutely do not benefit from them, they are a strategic liability and deserve all the hate they get from the Arab world.
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>>739496208
There are children’s shows in the Palestinian territories and elsewhere that teach five-year-olds about the glories of martyrdom and about the necessity of killing Jews.
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>>739496463
>The truth
>everything you need to know
yea no, go fuck yourself with a chainsaw and explain me why Israel bombs civilian centers as well?
Both sides are equally fucked up.
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>>739486617
Gtfo
The rarity of actual cases of transgender disorder is much lower than these people would have you believe.
People are converting their children to believe that they are a different gender, and that's just not okay. And people that don't make an effort to look the different gender or pass at all most likely do not have GED and thus call themselves trans with no basis.
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>>739496337
Weird that a grudge would last so long.

With multiple people (egypt/their neighbors/russians/germans and even americans until they got control of the media).

I mean, shit, the irish were hated for a time too. They were basically englands mexico. But people eventually got over that.

But everywhere the jews go, they're pretty unwelcome.

Similarly the same happened with the Romani/Gypsys. But they don't have any character flaws that have actually been documented, right?
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>>739496634
>explain me why Israel bombs civilian centers as well?

I told you about Palestinians firing their rockets from residential areas, schools, mosques and hospitals.

Are you stoned or just particularly stupid?

Israel builds bomb shelters for its people, while Palestinians dig tunnels from within which to launch terror attacks, knifing attacks and kidnap Israeli teens
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>>739496634
Anti-Semite detected.
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>>739496501
fuck TOPKEK
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>>739486617
Fuck off
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>>739496839
Palestinians are theologically compelled to kill Jews, and to make up any reason they can to kill Jews.

If Israel wanted to, they could do pretty much anything they wanted to. They could kill every Palestinian man woman and child, and there would be nothing they could do about it.
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>>739496852
so instead of firing down the rockets, or sending in troops to push them out, or using spies to rat out terrorists, israel goes the short route of bombing the held up shields regardless...

so morally superior...
so much better than those pesky others...

Yea, go fuck yourself.
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>>739496839
Gypsies are thieving fuckwads who have a culture just like the jews which tells them that they are different from and better than all non gypsies.
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>>739497118
>israel goes the short route of bombing the held up shields regardless
And using white phosphorus on civilians for shits and giggles.
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>>739496962
welcome to /b/
also, I'm a atheist.
we are "anti-semitic" and "islamophobic" by nature, apparently.
Your labels mean nothing to me, idiot.
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>>739497118
They use all means necessary, to include rooting out terrorists. It just sounds like you're intentionally misinformed, and trying to misinform others, creating more stupidity, and more death for violent and non-violent Palestinians.

when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants.
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>>739497118
We know the theological commitments of Palestinians.

What should Israel do?

Now, is it possible that some Israeli soldiers go berserk under pressure and wind up shooting into crowds of rock-throwing children? Of course. You will always find some soldiers acting this way in the middle of a war. But we know that this isn’t the general intent of Israel. We know the Israelis do not want to kill non-combatants, because they could kill as many as they want, and they’re not doing it.
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>>739495778
Violence is a poor method to spread an ideology.

But negative reinforcement does help stop unwanted behaviors. You don't see a lot of pride marches or gay protesters in Russia.

not that i'm a big supporter of russia, but most societies have a plus side to them.

I wouldn't go that far. If a tranny wants to be a tranny, fine. But there should be zero expectations from others to play along with their delusion and pretend they're a gender they're not. Similarly I could give a rats ass if gays want to buttfuck/rugmunch/etc. But their constant whining, protests, yelling and screaming and carrying on gets old after a while, and it's been almost 50 years since stonewall, and they haven't let up.

But i'm sure they would if they started getting chucked off of roofs.
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What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could.
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>>739494659
>>739495192
I have no problem with trannies as persons per se. Only the thought that an operation is somehow something more than a butchery of your former self.

I'm sorry i can't take trans people seriously. Because for instance in m>f, there's always a manface/jaw and a very distinct lack of an hourglass figure or hips.

And the more plastic surgery you use on it the bigger the chance it just starts to look very unnatural

In all i keep wondering how not every tranny just cracks down post operation because it never looks feminine enough in my eyes. has there ever been a operation in which someone genuinely looks like a female raised from birth? and i mean genuinely as in: no photoshop, hiding camera angles and filters

I say this as a person who's girlfriend's dad is trans. Great guy. but a guy.
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>>739487817
Because by being accepting of homosexuality you're not trying to morph reality in any kind of weird way like you do with transgender acceptance.

If a guy likes to suck dicks, thats fine for him I guess and I dont really have a problem with that. If a guy wants to go around saying he's a girl when hes not, im not going to get on board with that.
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This whole thread is total nonsense. Why would you come here and expect people to agree with you without starting some pointless flame war? Get real, yo.
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trans people are a diseased disease
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>>739497329
>this is almost certainly an accident
that happened...
>They’re not targeting children.
which died anyways...
>Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants.
So if less consequences were involved, they wouldn't care as much?

Dude, just stop it.
Either finish it by bombing palestinia to pieces, or get bombed to pieces yourself. Once everyone there is dead, the conflict is over, people can resettle the area and rebuild it without the fear of getting bombed.

End your wars.
There is no way for any side to get out of it with a clean vest, and therefore no point for the west in supporting either.
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Go away
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>>739486617
It's not "cis", its normal. Start terming it properly you retarded fag.
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>>739497501
>What should Israel do?
see
>>739497696
end it, and stop pretending to be better than your enemy.
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>>739496839
Jews are outnumbered by 100:1 by Muslims.

There are 1.7 billion muslims, and about 17 million Jews in the world.

And the truth is, this isn’t even the worst that jihadists do. Hamas is practically a moderate organization, compared to other jihadist groups. There are Muslims who have blown themselves up in crowds of children—again, Muslim children—just to get at the American soldiers who were handing out candy to them. They have committed suicide bombings, only to send another bomber to the hospital to await the casualties—where they then blow up all the injured along with the doctors and nurses trying to save their lives.
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>>739496089
Fags in end up regretting this cause it's a painfully process when they have to stick something in their retard hole cause it's an open wound trying to close. It's extremely painful and I'm glad he is suffering
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>>739486617

Dear trans. You were put on this earth to learn, but also rise to the challenges of life. If you were born a sex not of your prefference then rise to the challenge and learn how to be what you fear the most.


In other words....

.... quit being such a faggot.
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>>739497654
And therein lies the nature of /b/

A giant shitshow of yelling. If you started a thread saying the sky was blue, someone would argue against it until the end of time if they could.

No minds ever get changed by arguments these days. They do get changed by experience though.

I was a vehement supporter of gays/transexuals/etc. But a lifetime of them being given an inch and taking a mile, never ending whining/protesting, in just the last 2-3 years, we've gone from 2 genders to more than I can count. This is where tolerance and acceptance leads. I used to laugh and ridicule right wing/christians when they would give the "slippery slope" speech. Now I'm begrudgingly agreeing with them.

And that's the part that pisses me off the most.
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>>739497825
>end it, and stop pretending to be better than your enemy.

I'm better than my enemy who's intent is to kill me. Should Israel simply lay down its arms and let Palestinians steam roll them?

And again, you have to ask yourself, what do these groups want? What would they accomplish if they could accomplish anything? What would the Israelis do if they could do what they want? They would live in peace with their neighbors, if they had neighbors who would live in peace with them. They would simply continue to build out their high tech sector and thrive.
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>>739497838
We can always make more people. But jews want to control everyones money.

And that's unforgivable.
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>>739497696
>Either finish it by bombing palestinia to pieces, or get bombed to pieces yourself.

Israel has no intention of ethnically cleansing that area of the world. If it wanted to, it could do it tomorrow.

So, it seems to me, that you have to side with Israel here. You have one side which if it really could accomplish its aims would simply live peacefully with its neighbors, and you have another side which is seeking to implement a seventh century theocracy in the Holy Land. There’s no peace to be found between those incompatible ideas.
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>>739498350
seriously? gathering money is worse then genocide?

Are you always this morally confused, or is this just an off day for you?
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>>739486617
I only encountered two people who claimed to be transgender. First one was a creepy old fuck who wanted to follow a young girl into the women's restroom with wailing about being repressed. Second one was a whale planting her fat ass on a showcase that was close to break down because of her. As I told her to stand up, she began to recite the typical cis-gender-hate-shit. In both cases, I ignored the bullshit and threw them out of the shop. Both of them threatened with legal action and demanded to talk to the manager which I denied because my bosses have better things to do than listen to bullshit all day.
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>>739498629
>Can we just all agree that jews are vile covetous demons and get back to the fagbashing?

Probably not, since those were trips, and Jews seriously aren't that bad in the world compared to their Islamic counterparts.

The Muslims are acting on the assumption—the knowledge, in fact—that the infidels with whom they fight, the very people whom their religion does nothing but vilify, will be deterred by their use of Muslim human shields. They consider the Jews the spawn of apes and pigs—and yet they rely on the fact that they don’t want to kill Muslim noncombatants.
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>>739486617
>>>739498444
>>>Nice dubs.
>>>>>>>>>>"dubs"
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>>739491480
The SJW reasoning for the term "homophobia" is that it's a fear of being perceived as gay. Of course, transphobia makes no sense by this reasoning, but we can't have different terms that don't fit a simple pattern or those people will get confused.

>>739491657
What really sucks is that there used to be a good distinction between crossdressers and people with actual gender dysphoria.

>>739492038
Incorrect. Trannies are considered mentally ill. The details of why they're considered mentally ill has changed over time (especially with the DSM-V), but (in theory, at least in the US) there needs to be a diagnosis of a mental illness to permit the transition. Of course, there's plenty of cases of transitioning happening without a diagnosis, and that's retarded.

>>739493723
How about I start equating conservatives with the Tea Party?

>>739494594
If you read the article everyone seems to quote, the researchers are still of the opinion that the surgery is necessary, just not the only step.

>>739496663
>GED
That aside, I agree with this post.
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>>739498568
Life is cheap. Money isn't.

I've had a lot of people who were close to me die in my lifetime. It was really sad. We eventually got over it.

Jews didn't though. You never hear the end of it. Not just about Germany. Also in Egypt. And Russia. And blah blah blah.

6 million jews died. great. 17 million jews in the world. if they all fuck a couple times, they'll make up their numbers pretty quickly. Unless of course there's a bunch of gay jews.

So you wanna see the real cause for low number of jews? Look into the face of evil.
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I love you OP.
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>>739488690

you don't travel much do you?
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>>739498841
Well, muslims do know how to eliminate the things that plague their society. A bit harsh, but effective.

Gravity is a harsh mistress.
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>>739498444
>So, it seems to me, that you have to side with Israel here. You have one side which if it really could accomplish its aims would simply live peacefully with its neighbors, and you have another side which is seeking to implement a seventh century theocracy in the Holy Land. There’s no peace to be found between those incompatible ideas.
dude, what?
I have to?
are you retarded!?
Here, have a counter-argument to your fucked up logic:
Israle is a jewish nation in the islamic world.
It will NEVER be at peace with its neighbors, unless it eradicates them.
If palestinia wins it is a islamic nation, surounded by islamic nations, which - additionally - largely consist of the same sects.
so to stop the killing would mean to eradicate all jews in isreal once and for all, so future generations can live more safely and at peace.

and no, I don't support this argument, nor your retarded logic, and I especially don't side with either.
If it were my decision, I'd wall you off and check back in 50 years who still stands.
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>>739497997
And here we have an example of someone who should have been kept from starting HRT in the first place but somehow got all the way to surgery because of trans* activists trying to make it easier and blowing all the screening and requirements to hell.
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>>739498175
>They would live in peace with their neighbors, if they had neighbors who would live in peace with them.
but they don't, so this will never happen.
evacuate to other nations, get bombed, or bomb your enemies (the whole islamic world). You don't have any other valid options.
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>>739498629
>Can we just all agree that jews are vile covetous demons and get back to the fagbashing?

>I'll just make some names up for them, with no supporting reasons why, then ask everyone to move on, LOL

What is the main reason you hate the Jews? do you have any actual supporting reasons or evidence to support your why you can't stand them, and must bash them?
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>>739486617
>its x year so stop doing x
As if its implied that because time exists and never stops moving forward we should be more accepting of degeneracy.
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>>739498172
Yeah well I mean you're definitely partly right. I'm sure in the future the pendulum will swing the other way and it will all even out in the end.
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>>739499347
>but they don't, so this will never happen.

Would you live in peace with your neighbors who were compelled to terrorize you?

I doubt it.
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>Hey, you guys know this whole gender norm thing we've had set up since literally the dawn of mankind?
>the thing that's genetically built into damn near every species on the planet?
>well, we need everyone on earth to change that because of this movement that's only a few years old, soooo get to it.
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>>739498629
>Can we just all agree that jews are vile covetous demons

You have some explaining to do. Why be a racist, bigot?
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>>739499689
I would sell my house and move, unless I can make them move, dipshit.
So, what prevents israel from sacking it and moving to the US, france, britain, canada, germany, austria, sweden, norway, spain, italy, australia, new zealand, a.s.o.?

Pure stubbornness and righteous indignation over some ancient religious bullshit...
Just like your enemy...
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>>739498998
>Life is cheap. Money isn't.

It's not for you, if you don't know how to make it or refuse to do the things you need to do to gather it.

Are you absolutely sure the Jews are what are holding you down, and keeping you from becoming wealthy?

It's the Jews making you a poor resentful person? seriously?
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>>739499845
>Why be a racist, bigot?
>2017
>not being racist
Damn son. You're behind the times.
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>>739499864
>I would sell my house and move, unless I can make them move, dipshit.

So, you'd run away. OK... so we detected the coward in the group.
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>>739500085
>Damn son. You're behind the times.

I can't stand black lives matter, as they've joined forces with Hamas and their anti-jew hysteria.
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>>739499543
Cheap
Whiners
Covetous
Exclusionary
Cliqueish

When one of the main tenets of your faith is that you are "The Chosen People" and others are lesser, it tends to breed resentment, and they generally respond in kind.
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>>739500115
I'd certainly consider my options, and if the question revolves around where I raise my kinds, it's certainly not in the vncinity of maniacs, so I either make them move, or - if I can't (which is the situation Israel finds itself in), I move.

Sure, go on.
Call me coward.
I'll be sitting here, smiling, sipping my drink during lovely northern weather, while you fry in the desert over some ancient ruins, and expect the next hailstorm of bombs from your maniacs of neighbors.
Your "courage" surely pays off, I assume...
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>>739486617
Fuck off, faggot in denial, I hope all of you die
S A G E
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>>739488690
Found the guy who doesn't know what first/second/third world means.
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>>739486617
Grow up you fucking loser
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>>739499986
They're not holding me down. But they're definitely making an effort.

I worked in IT for a few wall street firms in the past. Pretty much every managers surname on the financial side ended in -berg or -stein. I saw several really competent people who weren't jews passed up for promotion, despite in some cases being more qualified.

It's just sort of accepted. I'm sure they could petition the courts for religious discrimination. I'm not sure how well such a suit would be received at Epstein, Kaplan and Goldberg when presented to his honor Eli Emmanuel.
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>>739486617
> trope only serves to make trans people look ridiculous...

kek
"being trans" make you ridiculous, no trope or meme needed.
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>>739500194
I always ask people on here why they hate Jews, and the more I look, the more I find that people don't really have any reasons.

They usually have a row of names that they think describes the Jews, then leave it at that.

They don't have reasons, just a lot of stupid name calling, and I don't know why.

Does anyone have some real data about them, besides they're fighting a defensive war against a group of people that are religiously committed to kill them?

Or that they're jealous of them for being smart? with over 25% of the Nobel prize winning discoveries in science and medicine?

I remember someone else close to me in my family that started talking about Jews like this, someone that browsed 4chan, and it was pretty easy to break down a thin argument veiled in ignorance.

And this person came out informed, and less anti-semetic.
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>>739486617
I don't fear trannies. I just don't celebrate their mental illness
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>>739486617
Im not.
Im full-blown gay (no pun)
Im into traps
Probably gender fluid as well
>current year
I get youre trolling but youre just making us look bad.
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>>739500194
Whiners
Covetous
Exclusionary
Cliqueish

Add suicidal martyrs that kill the most people today but contribute nothing to the world, and you used words to describe the Muslims that hate the Jews the most.

Now what?
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>>739500931
you're really really smart. you should work for the state department. you could solve the mideast crisis in minutes.
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>>739500430
>I'll be sitting here, smiling, sipping my drink during lovely northern weather, while you fry in the desert over some ancient ruins, and expect the next hailstorm of bombs from your maniacs of neighbors.

That's silly and you know it. I live in the States, but I've been all over the world with military forces.
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>>739501050
Hey man, I'm not a monogamous hater. I can hate lots of people. I don't like to be tied down to just one group.

I know it's a lifestyle that's frowned upon by some, but i'm polyhateful.
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>>739500709
>They're not holding me down.

So, what is your complaint then? hearing Jewish names that own businesses should compel you, not make you hate Jews. Who gives a shit if some Jewish people are good at running business.

Doesn't make you sound whiny? Yes, it idoes.
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>>739501131
>That's silly and you know it.
If that is your only remaining argument, we're done here. At least now we both know how pointless Israels ambitions are.
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>>739500709
Distorted thinking is probably something you should practice recognizing
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>>739501108
>you're really really smart. you should work for the state department. you could solve the mideast crisis in minutes

That position over the years under democrat leadership has always been held by a socialist/communist race baiter working to undermine the interests of the United States and to make our allies wonder if we'll help them in times of crisis and to spread lies around the world.
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>>739501339
>If that is your only remaining argument, we're done here.

That was your argument. It was your argument that contended absolutely nothing, but that you think I'm Jewish.

We're not necessarily done if you didn't give some compelling reasons why you think the Jews are holding you back from all the good things in this life, when you probably rely on technology that comes from Israel.
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>>739501690
...
you replied to the wrong post:
this is me >>739499864
>>739493355
>>739495778

this is not me
>>739495908
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>>739501339
>At least now we both know how pointless Israels ambitions are

but, there intention is to simply live in peace among their neighbors that mostly want to ethnically cleans them from the earth.
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>>739501305
The complaint is the other part you failed to quote. The "They're definitely making an effort" part.

Where I grew up, there weren't a lot of jews. They really didn't get mentioned much, and when they did, it was pretty neutral.

Then I moved to the big cities and began working for them. Got to know them as a group better. I saw the attacks on them, but I never put much stock in it.

Then after observing them, I started to notice some of the cracks made against them had merit. They did exhibit a lot of them.

Hyperbolic language aside, I don't really hate jews. I just don't like them very much. The whining is really the kicker for me. It's like a society entirely made up of larry davids, jerry seinfeld and woody allens. nit-picky, whining nebbish. Being behind them in line at the store while they try to talk the cashier at best buy down in price for a Dollar-Bin DVD like it's a bombed out mideast market bazaar. Constantly sending food back 5-6 times because it wasn't "just right", then refusing to pay because it didn't meet their satisfaction despite devouring the whole thing. The whole thing grates on your nerves.

But that still isn't comparable to the never ending pissing and moaning of fags and trannies.
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>>739501919
if they really would want to live in peace, they wouldn't want to live in a pit of snakes.
they wage war based on their religious principles.
closely resembling western civilizations internally, doesn't change their outside interactions.
Fuck Israel and Palestine equally.
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>>739486617
Fuck you
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>>739501934
You're upset for someone being thrifty? Now, who is the whiner?
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>>739486617
>tfw to intellegent
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>>739502064
When their cheapness is at the expense of the time of others? Yeah. Searching around for a good deal is one thing. Haggling, holding everyone up and making a spectacle over $1.50 is another.

It's America. The price on the item is the price on the item. The cashier isn't the person who sets the price. It happens a lot with jews, but i see the same behavior from arab-y types and indians as well. It's equally annoying.
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>>739502050
>if they really would want to live in peace, they wouldn't want to live in a pit of snakes.

You're blaming them for living in a place where they originally inhabited for thousands of years?

This is your best argument, because their neighbors are compelled to kill them, that they should just run away? Do you have a better spot for them?

>they wage war based on their religious principles.

Bullshit, they wage a defensive war against an enemy that is ideologically compelled to make war with them.

there are millions of Jews, literally millions among the few million who exist, for whom Judaism is very important, and yet they are atheists. They don’t believe in God at all. This is actually a position you can hold in Judaism, but it’s a total non sequitur in Islam or Christianity.

There is only a tiny percentage of Jews that are actually religious and believe in a creator god that is interested in them.
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>>739502326
And, you feel this enough evidence for the Palestinians to wage war on them or for the U.S. to pull support for them away? because you think they may be too cheap for your tastes, and it irritates you to the point of wanting to genocide them?
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>>739502440
>They don’t believe in God at all.

The last holocaust caused a lot more Jews to become only culturally religious. They realized they weren't anyone's "chosen people".

They have a lot of self determination that has helped them survive and evolve, not any god.
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>>739502440
Here's an idea: Take the entire region over, hand the place over to disney and turn the place into a theme park resort.

Suddenly they have to get along. It's in the employee manual. Costumes and paper hats for everyone. Ahmed has to work with Schlomo at the frostee stand or they get written up by their shift supervisor. And everyone will be delighted when they see Elija the Prophet do an impromptu song and dance with Mohammed, with a surprise visit from Mickey and all his cartoon pals!

One nation. Under mouse.
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>>739486617
>It's 2017, stop being transphobic.

FUCK OFF AND DIE PSYCHO FAGGOT
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>>739488658
Well, I don't recall anything traumatic or toxic happening in my life. And I wasn't spoiled. I'm still a tranny. I don't give a damn about acceptance from people eventually discovering this. I hate those flagwaving fags, too. Generalisation is a little bit retarded, whether it's based on expernience or not.
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>>739502558
I would rather see the guy ahead of me who's fucking with his phone at a green light die in a hail of bullets than have to endure the 5 seconds it takes for him to pay attention to the road.

Just call me Misanthropic Mike.
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>>739486617

Guys it's 2017. Transexuals can do and call themselves whatever they want. It's not your problem anon.

They are normal people and can be crazy like anyone of you.

I think it's more likely to find a mentally sick person in /b/ than within the transgender community.
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>>739502783
>>739502783
>Suddenly they have to get along.


I really am waiting for someone with a compelling argument against Israel, honestly. I keep asking - not because I'm interested in saving Israel, but because I want to know.

It is why I ask 'What do you have againt Israel?"

I want to know the reasons and logic behind it, given all we know about Israel and her enemies.
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>>739502947
>pay attention to the road.

I think we all want that. It's a tenable position to hold in the world.

Two cars parked in the streets here have been hit by people on their phones.
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>>739502979
No, but it's our problem when they start dishing out fines, firings and legislation if we don't play along with their delusions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/05/17/you-can-be-fined-for-not-calling-people-ze-or-hir-if-thats-the-pronoun-they-demand-that-you-use

Then it becomes everyones problems. Someone is genderfluid? Oh no, what do I call the person who called himself Sarah at work tomorrow? Is it Bill. Is it Xir or Xhe?

It's a self-important passive aggressive move to make the world dance around them like they're made of eggshells.
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>>739486617
Trans is not a real thing. It is called mental illness you fucking faggot. Kill yourself immediately.
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>>739503063
What are ya, some sorta kike?
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>>739486617
Is gender a social construct or is there a biological basis for gender?

If the former, doesn't that make transgenderism a choice? If the latter, doesn't that make gender assumptions completely reasonable?
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>>739494915
Nice burn, Mr. Lipschitz!
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>>739502979
Why is it that with BIID they wouldn't ever amputate a healthy limb because it would be ethically wrong, and they suggest therapy and drugs for treatment, but it's socially acceptable to do this to transexuals, but to even suggest therapy to treat them is transphobic?
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>>739503315
Is that the best you do for an argument?

No I'm not jewish, but you might be interested to know that Islam is at war with the west.

Sure, they want to genocide the Jews as they keep telling the world ad nauseam, but they want to covert the west or kill everyone in it.

They really would see a silver lining in a mushroom cloud over New York. How do we know this? Because they tell us even when we don't ask.
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>>739503269
As a tranny, I find this whole pronouns drama to be very retarded.
>>739503666
Because it's not only the mental state, jeez...
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Atheist Jews, which make the up the highest number of Jews in the world have absolutely no reason to hate Trans people, or to enact unfair laws against them.

Islam on the other hand has already demonstrated what it thinks needs to happen to those people.
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>>739503666
Because cutting off someone's limb would be drastically reducing a person's quality of life, and can only be harmful to them. Transitioning is not only harmless but drastically increases the quality of life of the trans person. And if you're going to say "cutting off a penis isn't cutting off a limb?", no, no it's not, because they don't even cut it off - if anything they just "repurpose" it.

Don't understand how anyone can think the two conditions are remotely comparable like that.
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>>739487817
the only biological "third gender" I know of exists in an african tribe that recognises "male" "female" and "female that becomes male"

They're so inbred that the development that usually happens in the womb (proto-vagina becoming penis, testicles descending outside of body to fill scrotum) happens during puberty.

I understand that gender dismorphia is a thing, but I do not recognise any gender other than male and female.
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>>739503965

Can you expand on that?

BIID is described as being at dis-ease with their body. That the presence of the limb is actually painful to them, that their life is torturous, and that they know in their mind and their heart they should not have this limb, despite it being normal. Their condition is considered a mental illness, and doctors and scientists are researching treatments and cures.

Trans people describe the same symptoms/feelings almost line-by-line. But to even suggest that their condition is treated as a mental illness, they are quickly attacked, shouted down, accused of being transphobic.

So what is the difference between the two, and why are they treated so disparately
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>>739503965
>As a tranny, I find this whole pronouns drama to be very retarded.

I feel fortunate not to be in a different body than the one I'm occupying.

All the trans male to female people I've ever dealt with have been open, friendly, exuberant people.

The women that trans to men are a bit darker, but I don't care if they do, or if they are and I certainly don't hold it against them if they're mistrusting.
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>>739503666
Genitals generally aren't healthy after hormone treatment.

Better question: why do people who are freaked out by trans people think they know more about this than modern medicine?
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>>739496089
Why do they take out spaggetti?
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>>739503418
Gender is what you're born with. Are you born a man or a woman? Are you born with a dick (XY)? Then you're male. Are you born with a vagina? Will you be able to hold a child inside you? Then you're a woman (XX). That's biological. You are born like this because human beings through millions of years evolved, so did our reproduction.

Wanting to be or identifying as something else is anthropologie. You can identify as a cat if you want. Biologically you're still a man/woman.

In society you can be anything you want. This is important for demographic controlls and understanding what the population is at given time.

Transgender people can make everyone pretend they are dancing this mental ilness dance. But not demand people actually dance it.
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>>739504674
I'm not freaked out about it. I have nothing against them. I have no reason to be.

I reason to be distrusting of people of color, who tell us continually all the reasons the entire white race needs to die. I don't trust them and I won't mind killing one that oversteps his boundaries, or beating one half to death that is racist towards me.
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>>739496089
Best treatment practices are figured out by doctors, not social pressure.

These people kill themselves because once they transition, they become obvious targets for hate, like from losers like you.
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>>739504400
So chopping up their genitals, "re-purposing" them, is less damaging than the amputation of a foot or an arm.

It's not using surgery to mask a mental illness instead of treating it.

gotcha.
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>>739504918
Oh so you're a typical racist, looking for a reason for violence.
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>>739504966
>Best treatment practices are figured out by doctors, not social pressure.

Tell that to the editors of the DSM in the late 60's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_DSM
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>>739496089
fucking christ. looked like an axe wound that someone then shoved a cherry bomb into and let explode. This is why so many of these freaks are severely depressed and suicidal, even after getting their surgery. They're left as total freaks, and that starts to sink in.
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>>739505017
It's the best treatment modern, science based medicine, has to offer.
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>>739505017
No, because you're not left with less than you started with. It's not "masking" an illness, it's treating it, agreed upon by every respectable medical community on the face of the planet.

Do your research instead of coming in here and looking like a dumbass.
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>>739504966
>These people kill themselves because once they transition, they become obvious targets for hate, like from losers like you.

Is that completely the reason for the mental illness in the trans community? I'm not being snide, I'm really asking.

Jews are targets of hatred throughout the world, but do not have suicide rates that are higher than other groups.

Black people complain endlessly that everyone hates them, while not having higher suicide rates than any other minority group.
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>>739505180
Because if someone tried to come up with a drug or therapy that addressed it, they wouldn't instantly be labeled homo or trans phobic, and considered on-par with Josef Mengele.
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>>739505127
Yeah who changed it because of psychiatrists. This must be so embarrassing for you
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>>739505091
>Oh so you're a typical racist, looking for a reason for violence.

You don't know the definition of racism, but I'll break it down for you. If someone breaks out in a "cracker" howling fit in front of me and chooses to do damage to me because I'm white, Yes, I'll beat them to death or simply shoot them.

no, not racist. I have reasons to distrust people that are telling us all the reasons why they should kill us. It's not racism, it's common sense.
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>>739505128
Maybe they're killing themselves because they are constantly abused by losers like you?
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>>739486617
I'm not, but fuck you. Don't tell me what to do.
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>>739498917
Ah it's GID
I forgot exactly what the acronym was
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>>739504467
First of all, it's not only a body part. Different brain types reacts differently to hormones. There are a few science debates proving this, but it's tiring to post them in every single thread and I'm not as desperate to keep them in my bookmarks just because there are people who disagree.
Secondly, it's pretty rare, but some trans people were bodily abominations 'repaired' by docs shorrtly after their birth. Some of them don't even know that they were, yet they naturally become aware that they are trans.
Thirdly, there are many people who just think that they are trans. That's what the mental therapies are for. They are mentally ill and can function better with psychotropes or similar things or be satisfied by becoming traps. I forgot the name for this, but I think that it was a three letter thing with an 'A' at the beginning, it abbreviates to something else, though. Real trans people are just a different thing.
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>>739505422
No and there are literally zero examples of this happening.
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>>739486617
It's not an irrational fear or hatred that makes me assert that transsexuality is a self-image disorder.
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>>739487539
fpbp
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>>739505091
troll harder
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>>739505303
So you think mentally fragile people should be the same as those groups why? It's as if you've put zero thought into this.
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>>739505437
Yep. Who's research was largely called questionable, but continued on through because "feelings".

Wikipedia tends to have a bit of a slant when it comes to their editing. They tend to leave out some accounts.

http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.com/2011/10/08/homosexuality-the-mental-illness-that-went-away/ is a good read.
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>>739505839
Yeah but you won't hide your kid when a white guy is around even though they do all the molesting. Picking and choosing reasons to hate races IS racism bro.
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>>739505635
Sounds pretty nuanced, but ultimately overly complicated and a pain in the ass.

There's something to be said for simple solutions.
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>>739505936
Groups of psychiatrists.

They leave out the crazy accounts.
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>>739504872
If gender is biologically determined then doesn't that make it entirely possible that a person could be born with gender characteristics from both, either, or neither gender?
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>>739505936
Oh you get your info from antiscience sites. I guess that's why you're surprised that basic logic and facts smash your worldview.
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>>739505902
No, it's why I asked the question. It's not a call to defensive arms.

I can't put a lot of thought into things that do not affect me directly. I have good relations with everyone I meet, because I treat people with respect, In lieu of there is no real good reason to do otherwise.

I think cooperation helps me the most and yields great results.
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>>739506338
Sex is what you're born with. Gender is the expression. Why we use gender for anything is a mystery.
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>>739505902
A question is not your alarm or trigger (unless it is for your own reasons). It is only a question, and should be treated as such.
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>>739506135
You know, they often hug them before they "throw them from the highest peaks" as they're commanded to do in the Hadith.

These victimized Muslims feel compelled to throw those other victimized group members off buildings.

Why does the trans community love Islam again?
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>>739506467
So transgenderism is a choice then?
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>>739486617
I'm not transphobic. I don't hate or fear trans people. I just think it's a moderately harmless mental illness, and hope that people suffering from it can get treatment and be well.

If I assume someone's pronouns, it's because 99% of people are the same gender as their physical sex, so that's my default assumption.
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>>739506584
It's a loaded question
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>>739506848
No? Who said anything like that?
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>>739487817
The jews really did a trick on you.
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>>739505091
>Oh so you're a typical racist, looking for a reason for violence.

looking to respond to violence or racism is not looking for violence.

A white person is 27x more likely to be physically attacked by a person of color.

They all are taught all the reasons why they should attack, and should feel good about attacking whites.

Those are good reasons for white people to remain defensive and alert while around people of color, but still people are faked into believing people of color peaceful, and become victims of racist physical attacks against them every single day.
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>>739506760
The "trans community" can't agree on anything. Most people who like Muslims like the nice ones in their countries. Weirdos like you think that means they condone the shitty things shitty Muslims do.
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>>739507185
Hate to brake it to you bro, but this IS racism. Sorry
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>>739507193
>Weirdos like you think that means they condone the shitty things shitty Muslims do.

Well, i guess you're right! every time there is an Islamic attack, some Muslim tweets something against it.

They're really going overboard sometimes in their fight against islamic terrorism.
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>>739507321
>Hate to brake it to you bro, but this IS racism. Sorry

The racism against whites? Yes, I agree 100%

I've never said anything racist, but have been attacked for being white. I've never advocated for unfair policy, which is actually racism.

Racism is getting worse in the U.S. and president Obama helped create the biggest divide in America.
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>>739507383
Huh? I think you're being obtuse and bad at jokes.
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>>739506040
actually gays do about half of the molesting :^)
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>>739507321
Racism takes many faces, unfortunately it's mostly a black person today. It is sad, because it increases the divide, and it makes whites less trusting of blacks that are committed to violence against them, and advocate for unfair policy against whites or for persons of color.
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>>739507321
we all know niggers are racist, anon
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>>739507544
Oh geez. The worst white supremacists are the ones who are total babies. Like you.
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>>739507623
Gays aren't a race.
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>>739506338
Yes. Obviously. Hermaphroditism. And there are people who you can't distinguish if it's a man or a woman. This acceptable. But these are flaws.

>>739506467
You're right. But a human whose sex is masculine (XY) is considered male. And the opposite in the female/woman case.

>>739506848
In fact there are people who you can clearly see that were born with the wrong gender (when a man should've been born a woman or vice-versa) but biologically speaking you are born what you are. If you feel it's not right, it's indeed your choice to change it. The only difference is the reason.
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>>739487817
>i used to
no you didn't you're here for agitprop
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>>739507910
No masculine isn't a description of sex.
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>>739488658
>people with severe mental illnesses come from abusive backgrounds
Wow, who could have seen that one coming
But chopping off the willy is not the answer. These people need help, not encouragement
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>>739507701
First day as an alt light huh?
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>>739507603
>Huh? I think you're being obtuse and bad at jokes.

I'm completely serious. With every single Islamic attack, CAIR comes on board with their rhetoric about anti-islamic sentiment.

Even after how many gay people were shot in Florida, all Clinton could do was warn against Islamaphobia - didn't offer any words about how Islam is compelled against gay people in the world.

Her words were "more gun control" and stop Islamaphobia.

She used the words "Jihadist extremist".... like is there any other kind of jihadist?

It was sort of galling to people listening to it.

She wants us to believe that all Muslims are teetering on the edge of Jihad. Is this true?
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>>739508126
So what's the answer? I mean, clearly you know more than medical science.
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>>739507747
I gave you reasons why they're racist, and have facts to back it up, and you have name calling?

Is this really the best you can do for an argument?
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>>739508150
Well yeah. There's a horrible attack somewhere, and then losers like you are racist to some guy down the street over it.
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>>739508291
Racist isn't name calling. It's a description.

Also picking and choosing facts to hate black people IS racism.
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>>739508142
>First day as an alt light huh?

Huh? I'm a classic liberal. Do you have reasons why you think I'm wrong, or is this the best you can do?

Is really the best argument a 'progressive" has is discomfort with ideas they disagree with? and to insult people?

Is this as good as it gets?

We as liberals are in big ass trouble
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>>739508291
You actually only gave reasons why you're racist
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>>739508459
What insult? I guess you have the whiny baby part of a liberal down.
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>>739508041
So when you are born with a dick because of your chromosomes XY, capable of producting male gametes what are you? Aren't you a male?
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>>739508331
>then losers like you are racist to some guy down the street over it.

So, what you're saying is that all Muslims are one Islamophobic away from committing Jihad?

do you know how insulting this must be to all the actual peace loving moderate Muslims in the world that condemn violence?

You guys are DONE in 2020.
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>>739508560
Male, as far as sex goes. But you can have a gender expression of a female. Why the expression is how we label bathrooms and now birth certificates...I'm not sure
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>>739508560
An birth defect.

CRISPR will get rid of these freaks soon enough. And if there is a gay gene like many say, we an finally get rid of them too.
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>>739508497
>You actually only gave reasons why you're racist
>>739508553

Come on! surely you have some facts or evidence to support your claims of racism.

No? I didn't think so. It makes you look racist, bigoted and whiny.
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>>739508593
No? Nobody said that either. I'm not quite sure how you even got that from what I said. I said you're an idiot for hating the guy down the street because of what someone else does.
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>>739508661
No, my friend. What you're talkin about is the identification. A penis IS MASCULINE. If you are born a male and have feminine traces, you're an exception. That's not how nature works. Again you can identify as anything but you can't erase your chromosomes
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>>739508553
>What insult? I guess you have the whiny baby part of a liberal down

He said "first day as an alt right"?

As though this is some sort of Insult. At least the alt right gets the question of Islam right reliably, and this comes at a huge detriment to the movement of freedom, peace and pluralistic societies on the left.
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>>739508719
Huh? You're literally spazzing out now. Sorry your racism triggers you
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>>739508796
>I said you're an idiot for hating the guy down the street because of what someone else does.

WHo the fuck said I attack the guy down the street for what someone else does?

You said that, not me bud. If someone doesn't attack, they don't deserve attack, but the guy down the street could advocate for the facts and truths in his religion, instead of lying about it.
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>>739508962
>Sorry your racism triggers you

I'm asking intelligent questions, and no, not triggered. triggering is something unique within the liberal progressives that want safe spaces where their ideas are not criticized for their stupidity.
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>>739508692
Ok, I'll just assume for a moment that it is a mental illness and all that stuff. Why do you need to get rid of them?
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>>739509065
So you don't have any problems with Islam ?
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>>739508796
>I said you're an idiot for hating the guy down the street because of what someone else does.

I can hate him if I want to, for not having balls enough to admit his religion is racist, homophobic, demeaning to women and that his book does advocate racism, genocide and ethnic cleansing.

They don't have reasons to be "proud muslims" in a modern peaceful open pluralistic society.
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>>739509187
You're super triggered bro.
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>>739509357
>So you don't have any problems with Islam

I didn't say that either. It's the worst religion and culture in the world by far. It needs to be ended and banned in every country that can do it.

I don' have anything against Muslims though.
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>>739509219
Because gays can get more women than homophobes
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>>739509509
Oh so you're islamophobic.
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>>739509489
I'm begging for your criticisms of my ideas, and you're focused on ad hominem.

This is what you do when you run out of reasons, or you don't have any. "go for the person's character", LOL

criticising Islam, and the anti-white movement from POC in the U.S. is easy as pie, because we have tons of information, facts and data to support arguments.

What the liberal left is lacking in is supporting evidence to support their claims.
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>>739509524
So? Are you afraid that there will be none left?
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The neo-liberal movement is not powered by people wanting to make America great. It is powered by hatred of all western culture and a only a few with money and bad logic to sway the easily convinced or poorly informed.

It's not to build a country, it is to tear it down, and make it third world, out of jealousy.
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>>739509947
Liberal leftists are powered by envy. How does it feel?
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>>739509219
Why wouldn't you get rid of an abnormality?

I think given the choice, parents would prefer a normal child that produces grandchildren instead of having to endure endless drama all their lives.

Of course the mom will probably be all "oh he should grow up to be whatver he will be, and we'll love him and blah blah blah". And then dad nods and agrees with the bag of emotion he's been forced to marry. Then as they leave, he hangs back a minute and tells the doctor "yeah..just erase the fag stuff. Thanks man.".

Sure musical theater and pet grooming will take a fiscal hit, but it's all for the better.
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>>739510023
It's not far from the truth. without that word, they have nothing, and they have no way to support their arguments.

The U.S. is done, and there is not enough support to keep it afloat anymore.

The only gratification I get is to know all those whiny violent assholes will be in the same shit hole I'm in.
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>>739507783
white guys aren't either :^)
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>>739510355
>Why wouldn't you get rid of an abnormality?
Ok, I know what type I'm speaking to. I won't even try, it's not worth my time. kys
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>>739510768
>not wanting to get rid of abnormalities

So kiddie fuckers are also ok?

good to hear you don't pick and choose what mental illnesses are acceptable by some personal fuzzy logic you keep in your head.
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>>739510768
Yes, it should only be used to get rid of defects like diseases.

Unless of course you're of the mind that homosexuality is itself a disease. I mean, many gay people seem pretty upset about it when they discover it.

Imagine how happy they'll be when they never have to go through that pain. Because they'll be normal. They'll still be themselves. They just won't have a mental illness.
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