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Why does CNN lie?

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Why does CNN lie?
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>Only one side of the coin lies
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>>739174054
There was both riots and peaceful demonstrations, dipshit.
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>>739174054

CNN is bullshit, always has been. TV news is never to be trusted. It's wall-to-wall lies.

Oh, and Jews.
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>>739174054
Can your small mind imagine that both riots and peaceful protests took place in the city during the several day long event?
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>>739174054
Because liberals swallow their lies like europeans swallow refugee nut.
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>>739174054
Daytime Not that violent and more pll that actuly care about protesting G20
Nighttime Riot-tourists that whant to destroy shit and stuff.
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>>739174172
>TV is bullshit
>trust insane youtube videos and shill websites instead
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>>739174318
Don't forget their favorite politicians. The media lies! Believe what our politicians spew out of their mouths instead, they have no reason to lie or distort facts.
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>>739174158
>>739174214
>>739174318
https://youtu.be/jdP8TiKY8dE

F A K E N E W S
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>>739174054
>Why does CNN lie?
Because being a libtard is being undiagnosed or denial that you have a disease of the mind.

Why do Democrats not admit they fixed their own primary to appoint Hillary over the significantly more elected, Bernie Sanders?

>being a democrat
>being in denial you are a libtard
>thinking you are smart
>not realizing the democratic party has cased the downfall of America beginning with William Clinton's office being bought by the Chinese
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http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/cnn/

Cnn, like all news outlets, does it's best to be as accurate and honest as possible. As seen on politifact a majority of statement are mostly or entirely true and a vast majority are at least partly true (usually true with some biased analysis). What's truly concerning is how Trump has rallied Reublicans against the even more credible new York times and Washington Post. As seen in the chart, it would seem, beyond WSJ, most Republicans get their news from Glenn beck, Fox news, and Breitbart which have grisly low scores on politifact. I think the real question is when will sheep learn to do independent research online to discover where and how to find accurate information rather than just trusting their Facebook news feed.
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OP, you paint a great picture of what is fucked up with our time.

Another fucking idiot getting all excited about a dumb simplified mspaint mashup. Here's some breaking decidedly non-fake news for you: almost everything truly news worthy in this world is pretty complicated. Only MSpaint mashups and oratory of the orange monkey you voted for have it in them to make something complex appear a simple, black and white derpfest.

In this particular case, and I consider it mind blowing this needs to be explained to you btw, both headlines are true. There were thousands of peaceful protesters/protests during G20. By night, assholes burning cars appeared. These events or resulting headlines are not mutually exclusive.

Do you know how to use an internet search engine? cnn did loads of reporting on car burning bits, too.

It would be great if world or truth fit in a single retarded mspaint-made jpg. Is not the case.
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>>739174439
Except the whole Donald Jr email issue kinda proves otherwise. They intended to work with Russia
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>>739174525
Fake news! Not like all of them have been saying for the past 6 months they never met with Russians. They weren't lying, the media was the whole time.
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>>739174054
Cuz it's CNN.
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>>739174513
>Implying politifact is unbiased.
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>>739174511
Left leaning/liberalism is most closely tied to education level and urban living. I understand that being educated might seem like a disease to you, but trust me college would have done you good kid. Get out of your town. Go live in a city for a few years and live/experience the lives of others. You'll begin to understand a lot more about what this country does great, but also where it deeply struggles and needs help moving forward. That open-mindedness, understanding, and dedication to bettering oneself is what makes the Democratic party so important right now, and the nomination of Hillary over Bernie so disappointing
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>>739174619
How is it fake if someone admits to it and openly sends the information to the public?
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>>739174619
But they did meet with Russians, you retard.
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>>739174687
Example, please. I've read into many of politifact's articles and ratings. They source themselves very well, and thoroughly explain each rating.
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You are trying to argue with a trump supporter. It is like trying to comb your hair to please the eye of a blind retard. Do it for yourself if you really like. Don't expect it to get through.
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>>739174687
That's literally their purpose. To check statements with facts and figures rather than emotions or wants. Everything is sourced, including damning evidence against stements of both liberal and conservative news outlets, so any bias the employees may have is essentially moot
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>>739174524
>oratory of the orange monkey you voted for
OP here.

I didn't vote for trump.

Did that effort-post make you feel euphoric?
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>>739174739
>>739174812
I was being sarcastic
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>>739174813
>mfw but one party lies more so its biased
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>>739174812
Dtj was referring to the russian governemnt in "not meeting with the russians" which so far is completely true
Why the hell would he say he never met with ANY people of russian nationality? Thats just stupid
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>>739174876
Whoa, you really found the gist of my post, great job skippy.
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>>739174813
>>739174861

>Being this new.

Sure is summer in here.
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>Why does X media group lie?
>Here's some evidence from Y media group which are totally legit because I agree with them

Big media is the problem, not just CNN
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>>739174997
>Whoa, you really found the gist of my post, great job skippy.
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>>739174999
>You disagree with me?
>You must be a newfag!

Cancer
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>>739174214
>Can your small mind imagin
Lol. You Americans are so dumb. The G20 was mostly riots and very aggressive protest which ran into the tens of thousands on a daily basis. There were no "peaceful" organized protests over here and if there was, they were either staged or had nothing to do with the G20. We saw the protests and violence daily on our news here with things lit up with petrol and much damage. Anyone who was actually here would NEVER characterize any of this as peaceful.

Idgaf about your CNN or whether or not you dumb Amerifags recognize that most of Europe hates corporations and would salivate over having your Trump instead of our puppet Merkel, but to pretend any of the G20 protests were "peaceful", or worse to paint that in the media, is just a sad statement about how far you Americucks have fallen in your media-controlled political brainwashing. No wonder all of your media lied to you about your Hillary Clinton being the winner in a landslide to manipulate your votes so no one would actually go out and vote for Trump as it being a lost cause and you imbeciles believed them all.

Land of the Free, huh?

Think again, mind-controlled dumbasses. You haven't had free thought since the Clinton's took over in the late 90's as your media has been owned by one of your political parties.
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>>739174054
Because they are zionist
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>>739175187
Yawn
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>>739175258
>can't tell me nothin
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>>739175187
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>>739174812
Proves nothing, retard. It proves absolutely nothing.
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>>739175187
Amerifat detected
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>>739175274
Nice propaganda m8. Good design, excellent sources and statistics, great product that the listed sources are benign
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>>739175187
Wow, took me 30 seconds to find multiple video sources from different news outlets of peaceful protests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUr74nz64X4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNvbqNFmz60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8U87WRGark

There were both riots and peaceful protests.
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>>739174999
This response is getting tired, anon. You must be a liberal. Someone says something you don't agree with? Summerfag! Fuck you, faggot.
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>>739174513
Your chart doresn't explain anything that you don't want to believe. "The Economist" is well-known to have a liberal bias amongst its readership. Jake Tapper has a hate boner against Trump, but should really send our God Emperor a fruit basket, because he helped save the network. Fucking Fox News doesn't like Trump, they just work under the premise that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Start watching and consuming these media, instead of searching for infographics that people who do consume these media can easily poke holes in, you would know this.
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>>739175274
You left out support for blm against evil white people.
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>>739174723
Apparently you are retarded.
Every single scientifically-refereed study has shown Republicans are over a full standard deviation more intelligent than Democrats.

To suggest otherwise also shows no common sense. Intelligent people make money and don't want to give it all away to the government to inefficiently dispense government handouts to the lazy, undeserving, thankless, and illegals.

Here's a very unbiased study (from not only outside the U.S., but in the ultra-liberal UK, no less) where they set out to find Democrats and liberals being more intelligent than Republicans, and instead found the opposite:

"Research has consistently shown that intelligence is positively correlated with socially liberal beliefs and negatively correlated with religious beliefs. This should lead one to expect that Republicans are less intelligent than Democrats. However, I find that individuals who identify as Republicans have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat (2-5 IQ points), and that individuals who supported the Republican Party in elections have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who supported the Democratic Party (2 IQ points."

Intelligence 44 (2014) 142-148
Carl, Oxford, United Kingdom

Get a clue "kid". What a sad little brainwashed imbecile you must be. Good job drinking your masters' koolaid, "kid".
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>>739175626
Wtf? Are you denying any millenials say these things? Pull your head out of your ass, faggot.
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>>739174406
Yeah, actually. That's my favorite. All politicians lie to varying degrees so, never lose your caution over claims that don't seem to be verifiable.
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>>739175665
MFW when I get accused of being a Trump voter, a Eurocuck, and a liberal all in the same thread.
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Being a retard ties in perfectly with being a liberal
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>>739175822
>in these target demographics
Most republicans are trailer trash. I'm pretty sure you're full of shit.
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>>739175822
>research paper written in 'I' form
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>739174513
Bahahahaha. Fucking BuzzFeed. XD
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>>739175741
>god emperor
Fucking magafags get back to |pol/

Trump is a piece of shit. He's been a joke in ny for decades, he's a scammer and liar so bad he can't even borrow money from US banks.

That you support him says more about your low intelligence and unwillingness to even do basic reasarch.
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>>739174723
>college would have done you good kid.
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>>739175741
Ah, so pew research is bullshit now too, Despite their complete sources and provided statistical analysis. You're right those two simple observations went way beyond a team of PhD researchers
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>>739175376
How 'Ye doin'?
I'm survivin'
I was drinkin' earlier
Now I'm drivin'...
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>>739175505
>Amerifat detected
u fucking twit
he's obviously not american
but apparently you are too dumb to know why
germans all write English the same way if you are not aware and he made two obvious and consistent gramatical slips that reveal he is a germanfag through and through

that you think an amerifat even wrote this shows how little you know about anything internationally
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>>739175974
Yeah, you're such a winner. Wow, anon, go out into the daylight now and scream in the street how you are smarter than some poeple on the internet! Do it! And watch total strangers flock to you in admiration and adoration, just to touch the fabric of the clothing you wear. Bottom lone is, you're a fucking /b/ loser. You have nothing to be proud of, pseudo intellectual faggot.
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>>739176081
Hey,nI've got two words that can prove your attempt to mock me is spot on: Nate Silver. Remember when he cracked the code and figured out that Clinton was going to win by a comfortable 4 point margin? Do you remember what actually happened? You can cite as many institutes, PhDs, standards of objectivity that you want. Things weren't as they were described on election night, and they probably aren't now, either.
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>>739176204
>Bottom lone is, you're a fucking /b/ loser. You have nothing to be proud of, pseudo intellectual faggot.
>Projecting this hard.
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>>739175822
How about the pew research study that put forth that right leaning republican majorities believe college to be harmful to the us. Fact is that just because one study agrees with you don't mean the majority do. Intelligent people may understand that they have an opportunity millions don't and may, like Bill Gates, be give a huge portion of their money to helping those less fortunate. The impoverished do vote Democrat which may create a large statistical tends towards low education opportunities (correlated to iq) and Democratic voters. On the other hand, higher education is a 70-80% correlation to Democratic votership as well. But what do I know as you said I'm just a retard. Who cares about my bachelor's in mathematics
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>>739175822
Non scientist tries to science. Cherry picking an article as well as cherry picking parts of said article.

>"findings suggest that higher intelligence among classically liberal Republicans compensates for lower intelligence among socially conservative Republicans."
Lol, so in your cherry picked article, the author even admits the more liberal Republicans make up for the conservatards.

Also, see image
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>>739176353

remember when comey restarted the hilary investigation and it became front page news days before the election and it completely threw off all those numbers?
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>>739176353
No the person you were responding to but, Silver projected a 75% chance of a Hilary win. That's only a three in 4 chance that she wins. That's how projections work. The fact that it cam up tails twice on two coin flip, effectively, isn't a sign of anything but the odds not favoring their side. Like, seriously. If you think 75% chance of a win means a guaranteed win, don't ever go to a casino.
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>>739175631
not him nor do i believe ALL the protests were violent (but clearly nearly all were in some way adn few were peaceful), but holy fuck you are fucking stupid:

here's what you posted as "proof" that CNN was telling the truth:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUr74nz64X4
A video of a sole (completly alone) hippie, who was making a joke as to the fact that the protests were NOT peaceful by playing a game of tic-tac-toe on teh sidewalk with the "peace" symbol used in place of an "X".
Hint: they are FUCKING MOCKING the fact that it is peaceful.
Good job showing how retarded you are.

FYI, the same video sequence shows at least 41 different violent protests with legion riot police throughout Hamburg and nasty violence. Your "proof" video is a mockery, dumbass. Here's the next video in the sequence, btw, for you to see what really went on in Hamburg and how CNN is so obviously not telling the truth. Just look at it and get a clue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrRUbGgIXoQ
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>>739175914
I'm denying that the picture you're painting is the same person.
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>>739175067
Imo it's for-profit media.

Getting a nice dose of entertainment/outrage/affirmation with your news is one way of keep the clicks coming.

And there's no obvious thing to do about that. Enhancing news to make it more iteresting also means it's gonna get bias and fake.
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>>739176387
Lol, no, observing this hard.
Sick of you smug faggots with your accusations of "newfag" and "summerfsg" and "mfw..."
You are expressing pride in being the one standing in a pile of shit the longest, which, if being the only thing you have to trumpet about yourself, says loads about just how low the level of you being a loser is. Faggot.
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>>739175822
>but in the ultra-liberal UK
>ultra-liberal
>UK
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>>739174054
All news organizations lie. Especially RT.
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>>739176637
So you see yourself as the person in the photo, but you never say any of those things. Correct?
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>>739175631
Umm, the damage from these 'peaceful' protests (violent riots) has since been shown to be over $6M Euros. Whole rows of stores were smashed and raided, and hundreds of vehicles were set on fire, along with 4 buildings. Polize were out in the thousands everywhere trying to stop it, using water cannons, CS gas, pepper spray, and beatings of people. 428 arrests, 1,622 hospitalized, 3 dead.

not sure how any media could credibly call this peaceful but if your cnn said that, shame on you americucks for being that dumb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssOkXn3L818
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>>739174054
Why does trump lie?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.01d10507c683
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>>739174158
Thread. OP is a dumb a fuck and can't comprehend.
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>>739176892
>why does Trump lie?
>cites Washington Post
Kek
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>>739174318
Haha, so true.
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>>739174439
Reeeeeee!
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>>739176595
Your implying college degrees equal intelligence which is pretty fucking stupid
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>>739177034
I see facts are not for you, you probably prefer alternative facts, go watch faux news
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>>739174511
As a moderate and the adult in the room, I'll tell you that CNN is lame but the best that's available on American TV by far and away.
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CNN is run by Jews who understand how to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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>>739174524
Yup, this.
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>>739176497
A few factors to consider;

Universities and colleges are strongly dominated by left leaning professors, especially in sociology departments. Right-leaning professors are being pushed out of tertiary education. Universities and colleges are becoming increasingly more partisan, and outside of the hard sciences, students are noticeably being taught what to think, rather than how to think. Left leaning professors are using sociology departments to push their opinions under the guise of false academic endorsement. They're an echo-chamber clique that 'peer review' each other, then cite each other as credible sources. Outside scrutiny is aggressively avoided or attacked. If you'd taken any sociology electives, you'd already know this.

Anyone who actually has attained at least a Bachelors knows that it doesn't necessarily correlate to being more intelligent. While the STEM fields do encourage critical thinking, no one is immune to their own biases. Truly intelligent people know that they don't know everything, and don't rely on their 'credentials' to validate their opinions on matters unrelated to the field they studied in. I know about 100 mildy autistic people in their early 20s that A+'d their way through Engineering and Maths papers. They're also complete fucking idiots.

t. BEng
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>>739176353
Ah yes, the classic "there's no difference between my highschool ged and a PhD in mathematics or statistics"
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>>739174925
She's way too hot for her tits to be that disappointing. They're just so floppy.
Yuck.
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nice thread so far, i only have one thing to add

CNN doesnt really lie, neither does FOX. Perception is reality and most disagreements come down to an ideological split.

Ultimately, both political parties are self-interested organizations that are less focused on delivering a quality candidate than preserving their own institution and keeping their elbows on the table.

Hence: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Neither candidate was actually electable. The political parties have established with this most recent Presidential election that they do not even care about their constituencies and are instead, more focused on electing distracting fools while the American public is mercilessly assraped by municipal and state level governements.

don't know who your mayor, councilperson or state representatives are? that was their total goal. ever wonder how we got a likely-senile, crude, reality TV star in the white house? it was because of this goal.

People are discussing local politics even less now. No one can shut the fuck up about Trump. the next 3 1/2 years are going to be full of Trump saying outlandish shit on twitter and you fucking idiots will still be talking about it/arguing over what news is fake with no connection to the actual politicians that shape your lives
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>>739175914
No I'm saying that you're taking the most educated and informed from a population and grouping them with that populations most ignorant. By doing so you discredit the resources used by the highly informed community by grouping them beside the likes of BuzzFeed and other less respected outlets
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>>739176046
>pretty sure you're full of shit

umm, he cited to a published journal article backed by scientific data

apparently you are just that dumb


>>739176055
umm, actually this is standard practice
when there are multiple authors, it is "we find . . ."
when there is one author, it is "I find . . ."


literally millions of publications say the exact same thing and it is 100% accurate

source: me, a ph.d. in chemistry who has been reading journal articles every day for 13 years now (1000's)

>research paper
fyi, you don't even seem to understand this is not a "research paper"
a research paper is mere research, and is not scrutinized by the field for accuracy as to the scientific methods and conclusions drawn
this is a published article in a scientific journal which means it had to fit into a whole bunch of criteria for submission standards, was submitted, reviewed for likely 6 months to 2 years by a random and anonymous panel of independent top researchers and professors at universities in the field, attacked by them (as is typical) for the author to further support the data and conclusions ultimately drawn, then if approved from there (unanimously as to scientific soundness), goes to a publishing committee for whether or not it is sound and worthy of publishing in the next volume of that journal

lol @ "research paper" in "I" form and "absolutely disgusting"

you are a very, very ignorant person, self-blinded by your own delusions

fyi, i could care less about your american political parties, but that journal article was extremely sound science and pretty obviously dispenses of the issue as to which of whatever of your political parties has the more intelligent people

everything else is just anecdotal and pure nonsense

your republicans appear to be significantly more intelligent than your democrats, but i hate you both equally fwiw
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>>739174054
NOT EVERYONE THAT PROTEST RIOTS RETARD
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>>739177305
Fox lol
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>>739176623
You picked one of the three examples, the weakest of the three to make your point. Nice way to distort the facts. There were estimated 78,000 protestors midday Saturday with next to no rioting. And there are many more than the 3 I posted.

Yes, there were tons of riots, it was crazy. But that doesn't mean there weren't large groups of peaceful protestors. CNN isn't "fake news" for reporting on both.

There were both riots and peaceful protests.
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>>739174054
$
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i have to say I am pretty disgusted by the liberal media at this point in my life and I have been liberal for 30 years

all the talk about safe spaces, micro-aggressions, gender identities is so fucking stupid its unreal. Trump won because liberals are so fucking annoying that they actually drove conservatives to VOTE. the liberals of both parties seem more concerned with thought-policing and their own personal enrichment (See: Bernie sanders evading taxes, committing fraud).

like I am all for respecting people's identities and shit, but are we fucking france now? in this country, lets just say you say "i hate niggers" at a walmart. tasteless, but not illegal. in france you say some shit like this, you can be jailed for 2 years... we are like less than five years away from thoughts being illegal and that shit is fucking horrifying and anti-american

been a democratic voter my whole life, did note vote for either presidential candidate. voting in 2017 is antiamerican, it gives legitimacy to a system that doesnt deserve it and enables these assholes to grandstand on issues like gender identity and bathroom bills, earn brownie points from millenial shitheads while they do fucking nothing for the people suffering in this country at the hands of total, unrestrained, and blind capitalism
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>>739176595
Not him, but Jesus, kid. You need to stop. You are seriously embarrassing us at this point. I'm a lifelong Democrat but it has always been obvious that Republicans, on average, are the more intelligent party. I'm not sure why any of you millienial loudmouths have started a propaganda campaign pretending the opposite is true, but that's just sad.

Oh, and your image is laughable as the U.S. Census Bureau, NOT ONLY DOESN'T COLLECT ANY OF THAT TYPE OF DATA, EVER, but also the U.S. Census happens every ten years (and it is forced to do so by the U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 2 for the purpose of determining House of Representative seats for each state) and the last one was in 2010, so it is literally an impossibility for them to have published anything about the "2016 election". You'd literally have to wait to the 2020 census to collect this data, and it would NEVER be collected anyway as it is outside the federal guidelines.

Who is making that propaganda nonsense?
How sad that someone here regurgitates it as "fact".

This >>739176595 idiot is a special kind of stupid. Please leave my party, you are making us Democrats appear dumber by the second. We weren't winning to begin with and we have long suspected it is because of you.
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>>739177657
>umm
>umm
>literally
>actually
>fyi
>fyi

Nice tumblr-posting. You're a liberal aren't you sweetie?
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>>739177657
No one ever write in "I" form, unless student in primary school
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>>739176595
>Non scientist tries to science.
Omfg, did you just post that image and claim he >>739175822 with an actual hard citation to an actual journal article is the "non-scientist"?

Pretty sure he is science-as-fuck, and you are retard-as-fuck. This is especially true if you actually believe Republicans are less intelligent that Democrats when any moron with common sense could tell you the opposite is so obviously true. It's not even close, you imbecile.
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>>739176055
yeah, its pretty much common practice to use personal pronouns in research papers

just google it
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>>739177848
Not really. Peaceful protests tend to happen early, daylight, and people are more easily recognized. The same people resort to mob mentality as the day goes on. As anonymity becomes easier they begin the riot.

Nobody shows up and starts burning cars. They show up, chant a bit, the they start breaking windows it's not a coincidence that pretty much every riot happens in the exact same place a protest was being held an hour earlier.
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>>739178458

please google this. plenty of academic papers are written in this form, especially in the social sciences. personal pronouns =/= mixing opinion with fact. the academic world realized this decades ago, but this idea still persists.
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Education and intelligence do not go hand in hand. Any idiot can get a degree. They're just an idiot with a piece of paper.
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>>739178218
>I'm not sure why any of you millienial loudmouths have started a propaganda campaign pretending the opposite is true

Because SJWs think they have the moral high-ground, which makes them 'right', and being 'right' means you are more intelligent. They've literally employed logical fallacies to trick themselves into thinking they are more intelligent.

Also at some point they started believing that a teritiary education = high intelligence. Because apparently their 3 year sociology degree makes them objectively more intelligent.

Then they try and do 1st year STEM papers and can't cope.

https://youtu.be/ZUPsGDFZzVM
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You can't measure intellect

Arguments that somehow find there way into debating who's smarter hit a dead end
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>>739178496
If they went 15 minutes without looting/ burning/ pillaging/ etc, then it was a peaceful protest. CNN was therefore honest in their reporting

Don't mind me, just Correcting the Record
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>>739176831
not sure what your point is or if just trolling, but yeah, we are "ultra-liberal" here in the UK m8
either
in fact, we invented liberalism
started with the "Liberal Party" in the 1800's (America doesn't even have a liberal party, just their Democrats trying to get votes from the poor and immigrants by pretending they are on their side), whilst at the same time sprouting off another liberal party, the Liberal Unionists (which became our Labour Party), and our Liberal Democrats party, and our Democratic Unionist Party, then theree is our Green Party and our Social Democratic and Labour Party

our parliament is easily two-thirds liberal-leaning, which is the makeup of our party affiliation throughout the UK
only about 40% are conservatives here

britain is the birthplace of "liberalism"
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>>739178729

g is valid. IQ can be measured. Deal with it you fucking communist.
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>>739178218
>>739178459
>attacks my evidence for not being sound enough but provides no evidence
>makes claims like "always been obvious that Republicans, on average, are the more intelligent party."
Hm..

And you really think that large of a trend has been reversed in 6 years?

The intelligence debate is more complicated than this, sure. But idiots today need simplified arguments, obviously.

The wealthier Republicans are likely more intelligent and educated, and are looking out for themselves in their choice of party.
The hillbilly Republicans are likely less intelligent.
The educated Democrats are likely more intelligent and understand these issues more than the average American.
The poor Democrats who vote hoping to get more assistance and help in their situations are likely less intelligent.

Shit's complicated.

I criticized the wannabe scientist for cherry picking an article. You two obviously don't understand the importance of replication in science.
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>>739178286
yeah, umm, i'm a liberal, but at least i'm not dumb and know that the republicans are easily the party of the intelligent people over the democrats

your point, sweetie?
and fyi, your point is not going in my vagina, sweetie
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Da comrad

collect your rubles OP at the nearest kgb office
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>>739178856
Australian here.

We have a Labour party as well they're the major left wing party.

The ruling party made up of conservatives is The Liberal Party.
Srsly....
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>>739178981
>Shit's complicated
not him, but no it isn't
republicans are clearly far more intelligent than democrats
deal with it and move on
you throwing up your hands and claiming "shit's complicated" is about as big of a pussy surrender white flag as i've ever seen around here

maybe just admit you are wrong next time?
you posting bs propaganda images that make no sense and have no citations in the face of him posting hard scientific evidence with a citation looks retarded as fuck on you

you are making his case for him by denying the hard facts
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>>739178994
>republicans are easily the party of the intelligent people

LOL
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>>739174054
To upstage Fox News in terms of lying to people.

In all seriousness, they're a 24-hour news channel just like Fox News and MSNBC. They lie just as they do.
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>>739178871
IQ does not equal intelligence.
IQ is an attempt to measure intelligence (comparatively, not objectively)
The Stanford-Benet scale (the one most of you retards reference) is highly unreliable outside of 1sd
The Wechsler Scale (the current standard) isn't incredibly accurate either, and scientists know it. They use it because it's the best that they have that is capable of large scale use.

Gardener's theory of intelligence seems pretty promising, but we can't really perform large scale testing with it

Being able to accurately measure intelligence is a psychologist's wet dream, but we're not quite there yet.
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>>739174054
For the same reason every other news outlet lies, depends on their agenda and how much audience they get wioth their lies...
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>>739178871
IQ tests are based on skill, not intelligence.

There's a dude with an iq around 300 because he practiced them all day.
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>>739174214
Its not fucking news that there were peaceful protests. It is news when riots happen all around that peaceful protest.
Thats why CNN is bullshit. They don't report on the riot to the left of their camera lens. Just the peaceful protest that fits their narrative in their camera's field of view.
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>>739179123
i'm aware, but you aussies have always had things backwards
it's because the planet spins the opposite way from your perspective
that, and too many drop bear sex parties
you clowns go out of your way so hard to be different that you've lost sight of what is normal long ago
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>>739179172
Wow look I can cherry pick articles too.

Republicans are clearly far more intelligent than democrats?

It's easy as fuck to chery pick. Have a fucking debate.
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>>739178981

I live in Boston, MA and have a degree in STEM from a top 20 university and voted for Trump

I'd do it again, too

Democrats are busy getting paid off by tech companies and holding off on h1b visa reform which undercuts American workers with a salary set in 1970, making it easier for big tech to hire foreign people for almost no money

Meanwhile, Trump has taken action and started getting people onto this

Democrats are the party of corruption. Simply look at a list on Wikipedia for the past 40 years of American govt officials tried for corruption charges
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>>739179370
>They don't report on the riot to the left of their camera lens. Just the peaceful protest that fits their narrative in their camera's field of view.
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every g20 has the same mom but a different daddy
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>>739179387
I'm just so flattered that a mainlander is aware of our politics.
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>>739179363

Iq still has extremely large correlations to earnings and violence
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>>739179211
>post LOL
>ignores scientific data proving republicans are smarter than democrats >>739175822
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>>739178778
both side has its valid points for sure. Gotta feel bad for all the property damage though.
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>>739174723

kek what the fuck

you go leave the city you rancid leftist kike shill, maybe you'll get the wake up call you clearly need.

America needs less kikes, not lying kike presidents.
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>>739179732
True. Shit sucks no matter who you are
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>>739179613
Poverty tied far closer.

My point remains that no one's mind is possibly changed with hearing 'your tribe is dumber, here's a subjective graph to prove it'

From my time alive I've noticed that curiosity is the standout feature that plebs lack. People who watch big bang theory etc.
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>>739179522
What are your thoughts on net neutrality and the current FCC?

I disagree with your Trump vote, but it is true the tech industry is having problems. I think the larger problem is the lack of educated/intelligent Americans in the job pool. In my university there were an overwhelming amount of foreign students reaching the higher level programs, putting in more work, doing better overall. Hence big tech bringing in outside employees.
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>>739174723

I'm
>>739179522

Lived in cities for quite some time and think most Democrats are deluded with what their party actually is

They are also people who have been sold,so to speak, predefined ideas by the media they consume in all forms. Recode, Vox, etc.

As a first hand account, the Republicans I've met in cities are for brighter than the Democrats. Maybe it's because it requires ignoring predefined notions of what it is to be 'urban' that they're sold growing up via entertainment or more
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>>739179530
>They don't report on the riot
>Keyword: Riot
>Article literally says 'demonstrators', forcing the narrative that these people are merely being harassed by the police for protesting something, as opposed to RIOTERS

Anon, be honest. Do you plug your ears and go "la la la" when even your own 'evidence' screams the opposite of what you post?
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>>739174054
WHAT?

TV is lying to us?
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>>739174054
For the same reason, fox, breitbart, etc. do too. Ratings and catering to their fanbase's limited perspective of things.

>>739174087
Underrated post
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>>739179958

Ill start by saying that I'm different from most of my alt-right peers here in saying that I supported and still support the Patriot Act

I, however, have not taken an in-depth look at net neutrality and cannot really comment on it, but we must be careful when we try to treat internet like a public good, else we end up like the morons at the EU suing Google for putting sponsor ads on top of searches because they believe Google is a public good. This is punishing companies for being good.

If you take a trip to SF you can see first-hand the amount of foreign indian workers hired for the H1b bare-minimum salary. If we adjusted this salary from the 70s to today's standards it'd be over 120k, but large companies don't want that. There are plenty of American CS workers, I cannot say how many in my head, but I do not believe lack of educated Americans is the problem. Even if that were the case, bringing in foreign national is not a great solution
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>>739180156
>arguing semantics
sigh

Rioters are protestors. They are also demonstrators. Anyone with a brain can figure out the situation from that article, CNN isn't forcing a narrative by using one of those words you don't like. Grow up, kiddo.
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>>739179701

your source is garbage first off

second off, here are the main ideas of the article

Highlights

• Individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence (2–5 IQ points)
• Individuals who vote Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence (2 IQ points)
• Verbal intelligence is correlated with socially and economically liberal beliefs (β = .10-.32)

so on average the republican has 2 IQ points advantage over a democratic voter. the difference isnt even scientifically significant when you compare it to the goal of the research: to replicate decades of research that have proven, time and time again, that socially liberal ideas are correlated with higher levels of intelligence.

if you read more than just one study on the subject, you will find that this conclusion has been drawn constantly for decades, and that there are often minor IQ advantages for liberals in other studies.

it means literally nothing, and not only does the abstract leave out their methodology, i suspect it is much less thorough than other studies into the same subject, because the college you listed has approximately 70 students at any given time. if you look at studies from harvard or princeton in to the SAME EXACT THING you will find studies with more than 70 students working on the same exact subject.

the fact that you can't comprehend how meaningless your source is really sad
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>>739180039
How does it make you feel when republican reps are being lobbied by the rich to help them get richer?
(The new ACA's major investment income tax reduction, constant tax increases on poor, climate change denial position held only by 'most' Republicans with some receiving millions from vested interests etc)

It makes me feel sad about what is legal in a democracy
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Ratings mother fuckers!
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>>739180405
It's a difficult problem, because you'd assume big tech is searching for the best employees, not the cheapest. They want innovation and are willing to pay for it. If we limit the visa problem, it limits potential, and we could fall behind other countries. But, we do want to protect American jobs.

Seems like a complex issue that experts should look into. I'm sorry but I doubt Trump's administration is doing that. He hires based on loyalty, not professional background.
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>>739179407
Except anon didn't "cherry pick" anything. He responded to your post >>739174723 claiming Democrats were smarter with scientific evidence (posting the actual article) with a full citation on top of it, to clearly evidence you could not be more wrong here >>739175822.

You?
You have posted not one, not two, but now three separate efforts to counter, and have shit all over yourself (badly) and embarrassed the fuck out yourself (though oblivious, and you literally keep going, like a full-on retard), with unsupported propaganda images to patently false nonsense conjured up by a moron behind a keyboard with a political agenda (about as far from science as it gets), here >>739176055, here >>739176595, here >>739179211, and now here >>739179407.

Here's an actual clue: "low effort" thinking does not equate with "low intelligence". In fact, the opposite is true. One takes little "effort" to derive the answer to a problem posed when they are highly intelligent, whereas a moron with low intelligence requires "high effort thinking" to figure out relatively simple problems. Get a clue, kid.

Further, the study you post concludes the low-effort thinking PROMOTES political conservatism (i.e., that people with more intelligence who need to think less to do tasks others struggle with, tend to become Conservatives). It also specifically goes out of its way to state that while "low-effort thought" is "not equated" with intelligence, but rather time spent on a task, the fact that it "promotes political conservatism" is "not that political conservatives use low-effort thinking." In other words, you have the causation ass-backwards. That article is saying low effort thought promotes conservatism, NOT that conservatives use low-effort thought.

A chair promotes a person's chances of sitting down.
That does not mean that person is a chair.
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>>739180682

It's the same on both sides

It doesn't bother me much, though

Capital gains tax really is BS when you think about it and taxes in general are too high, especially corporate.

I also do not believe climate change had been proven to be a man made phenomenon, I cannot speak for the money involved in lobbying, I'm just basing this off of figures and cost-effectiveness of 'fixing it's even if it was manmade

But if we look at legal charges for corruption in the past 40-50 years, the list is almost all blue, so that is saying something.

>>739180761

They are going for the cheapest best. Few MIT grads will want to work for 56k a year in the Bay area, but an IIT grad, India's best tech school, will gladly accept the job

I think Trump's doing a decent job, personally
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>>739179701
Wow, all the primitive retarded republicans getting offended and posting one fake study picked out of all the others and tens of years of empirical evidence that prove the opposite to cover up the fact that they have the IQ of a chicken.
You troglodyte moron who somehow learned to post on imageboards.
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>>739181235

I can't speak for prior to 2009, but in my experience imageboards (not just 4chan) have always collectively been far more right-leaning than the general population
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>>739181011
You're assuming a bunch of different people are me. I only posted a counterargument to a cherry picked article, showing a correlation between educational attainment and votes this past election. You believe that one article over every other argument presented, and just wrote this huge argument why you think low-effort thought is a positive.

The first article that wannabe scientist posted is shit, and cherry picked out of decades of research correlating liberal beliefs with higher intelligence.

See >>739180588
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>>739180588
>your source is garbage first off

Just got on this thread and feeled compel to help you by telling you that if it is not obvious to you, you have gotten the shit kicked out of you, very badly, all over this thread.

You need to step away from the keyboard and stop embarrassing yourself.

We get it: you are dumb, and you don't understand how science works or are unable to discern the differences between facts and political propaganda, and clearly if you did you somehow wouldn't believe it anyway as it doesn't fit into your (mis)belief system.

You really, really need to scrap everything you think you know and start over. I don't know if I've ever seen someone get the shit kicked out of them intellectually over the internet as bad as has happened to you in this thread. Yet somehow, you keep posting and digging a deeper hole, each time sinking further into your delusion. It is unlikely you can be saved anymore as you are effectively braindead or fully brainwashed by most standards.
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>>739180477

Rioters may be protesters, but protesters are not rioters. Once you begin damaging other beings or property you're no longer just a protester, you are also a rioter.
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this >>739181643
but just give up
he's obviously retarded
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>>739181643
Another Republican closing his eyes and ears to any argument he doesn't agree with. It's ironic, because the Noah Carl article posted here >>739175822 actually concludes that the higher verbal scores seen in American Republicans is because of a larger portion of classic liberals voting that way, and is an exception from the liberal vs conservative duality seen around the world

"I reconcile these findings with the previous literature by showing that verbal intelligence is correlated with both socially and economically LIBERAL beliefs. My findings suggest that higher intelligence among classically LIBERAL Republicans compensates for lower intelligence among socially conservative Republicans."

Capitalization added for emphasis.

You're literally blind, and yelling that the liberal intelligence arguers are "getting the shit kicked out of them" while quoting an article that supports that argument.
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>>739181643

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797611421206

Sources:
Harvard
American Psychologist, 64, 231–240.
National Foundation for Educational Research (UK)
Washington, DC: Catholic University, Department of Psychology, Center for Research in Thinking and Language.
Psychological Science, 18, 691–698.

Intelligence and interpersonal sensitivity: A meta-analysis. Intelligence, 39, 54–63.

(Oh look, your own source,^ publishing contrary information five issues prior as part of a much larger study)

European Journal of Social Psychology, 39, 920–931
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 90, 751–783.
Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology, 43, 259–277.

the list goes on. the reality is that you posted garbage science (no meta-analysis, no mention of methodology in abstract, written by total amateurs) because it reinforces your belief system, and I am posting meta-analysis sourced from hundreds of reputable academic sources.

your shit is weak, in other words
you are pretty much exactly what is wrong with the populous today. you have no ability to think critically, you just mindlessly consume whatever garbage echoes what was said by whoever fucked your brain up in your formative years.

im so sorry you had to find out this way. but its better than being a fucking retard your whole life
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>>739182200

Democrats do not support economic liberalism

Conservatives are the ones who support it
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>>739182329
Yes, my point is it's the libertarians that help the Republicans in this instance.
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>>739181446
Agreed.
Image boards in general are ridiculously conservative.
About a year before m00t left, he posted some of the data from some of the advertising companies that obtained demographics of 4chan, and /b/ in particular, and m00t said he always knew /b/ was conservative and mostly suburban white male republicans, but he never realized how much they made up 4chan and /b/. The data showed that /b/ was 83% conservative, republican, suburban white male, between 18-40, and that same data result was shown from multiple independent marketing sources. It showed that 4chan was worth advertising on as this is by far the wealthiest demographic in the U.S., but the problem was no advertiser wanted their name associated with 4chan. It is ultimately why m00t gave up and left us as he needed a real job an money.

I doubt the demographic has changed significantly to this day, albeit, most of the intelligent people left 4chan years ago and it is now a copypasta, non-oc kid site.
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>>739182581
I like you
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Yes, the only trustworthy news source is Alex Jones
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>>739182200
Thanks for confirming how dumb you are.
Thanks for pointing out that the authors embarked on trying to prove Democrats were more intelligent and when faced with the actual scientific data, had to conclude the opposite.
Good jos ignoring the actual data.
Good job ignoring the actual conclusion of scientific article.
Good job not understanding that "liberal Republicans" does not equal Democrat, yet somehow still necessarily equating the two to make your absurd conclusion in defiance of the entire article itself.
Good job not understanding that the articles conclusion was that despite setting out to prove that Democrats are more intelligent than Republicans (the author literally states this in several different ways as his premise throughout the article), that he was forced to conclude the opposite by the hard data itself in that Republicans are actually more intelligent than Democrats, and make sure you keep arguing that the guassian distribution is important, not the net result, and make sure you remember that ivory tower demotards are an infinitessimally small amount of the street niggers, illegal aliens, poor, uneducated, and mexican mongrels wondering the streets and committing crimes and bringing America down that make up 99% of the Democrats.
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>>739175258
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>>739183461
You contradicted yourself so many times in that one post holy shit that was amazing
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The Republicans represented on the right here are very smart.
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>>739174158
There was almost zero "peaceful".
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>>739174723
Proof that plenty of tards are still having really rad lives. I bet his gf is tarded and recently became a pilot.
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