/b/ I have 4 years clean off heroin and the cravings have been

>>739133861
op watch trainspotting.

>>739133861
Damn, after 4 years? I've never tried h but that sounds horrible. Fentanyl that they're putting in it has been killing a lot of people in my area (east coast) be careful dude. My worst thing is adderall, I just feel tired as fuck not taking it but i think I'm naturally just tired as fuck and uninterested in most things so I can't really blame the drug. I've noticed I have much more of a sense of humor when I'm clean though

File: 19429711_1565517003487942_5493997107804550808_n.jpg (49KB, 640x778px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 640x778px

>>739133861
I do tragic shit on drugs and alcohol so I just smoke weed and eat mushrooms

>>739134081
It's ok but for sure nothing like my experience of solitude and crime to keep my habit going. Better than requiem for a dream which is complete dogshit

Been clean for less than a year but I don't really get cravings anymore.. I never injected that shit tho

>>739134434
It comes in waves and its worse when i drink which i have been doing alot lately. But the urge never really went away. When people ask me what I want to do, I always lie and say i dont know. But i do know, i want to do opiods.

>>739134673
How long did you use? H or pills?

>>739134682
Well here's a tip from a paramedic if you decide to use it again don't be a dipshit and use your old routine maintenance dose that's how you idiots end up dead. So many god damn times have I heard "he's been clean for x months" or "he just got out of rehab" yeah and he fucking did his old dose. Tolerance is a real thing. Don't be a dumbass.

Haven't had any smack in 8 years.
I did the 12 step thing and it actually worked for me. It's literally not apart of my thought process anymore for real. But I did get addicted to everything else non-narcotic along the way. You name it porn, food, gambling etc. it's a weird ass disease where the main components of the disease are to convince you that you don't have a problem.
Best of luck though.

>>739134714
Started with pills then did h for about 7 months. My fav is white China. My friend overdosed tho on it and that's what made me stop I got scared lmao

>>739133861
i used alcohol to taper off opiates. its not a long term solution but it helps.

>>739135020
Nah Id smoke it if I wanted to relapse, pretty much impossible to OD if youre not drunk

>>739135020
Also i firmly believe that when junkies get out of rehab, slam a G and OD and die; they committed suicide. Ask any addict what happens if you do that. They will all say "youll die." It's not like we dont know thats what happens. That shit is suicide.

>>739135140
it's okay to talk about it with out laughing, that shit sounds traumatic. Glad to hear you stopped though. Stay safe man.

>>739135515
That mother fucker lived I wouldn't be laughing if he died. You too man

>>739133861
I've been using opiates since I was 14. I started IV heroin at 17. I'm now 20. I just got back on suboxone on Friday. I don't see myself as sober but I'm gonna try at it again. Don't fall into temptation op. You'll end up worse. Or dead.

>>739135414
Addiction in itself is slow suicide. Especially heroin addiction. I am a heroin addict in active addiction. It's awful

>>739133861
I've gone 6 months without tripping, because my gf don't want me to.. her views on drugs are demonalized, it's terrible. I don't know what to do, I miss lsd so much, and I wanted to work with it in the future.. but she is ruining everything

>>739135852
I miss having a purpose. My life feels empty and pointless now. When i was using i was filled with limitless purpose. Ever day i woke up and knew EXACTLY what I was going to do, what my life was about. That sense of purpose was so powerful. I feel lost without it.

>>739135515
Also I'm only laughing cause I'm to pussy to do it again. I've done Percs every once in a while tho

>>739133861
Currently in the beginning, or hopefully middle to end, of a stint as a meth dealer.
AMA

>>739135140
My best friend just overdosed at the wheel and got into a head on collision 3 weeks ago. He and everyone involved lived and are okay. It scared both of us. I just got onto suboxone maintenance and am trying. I'm glad your friend lived and it scared you enough to try to stop. Good luck

>>739133861
7 Years clean in N.A. here. I don't have cravings, I don't miss the old days, I have lost the desire to use drugs. Just saying, life in recovery is pretty good.

>>739136055
Has she ever smoked weed? Theres a good case to be made that shrooms/lsd are similair. If you live in a legal state maybe try to smoke with her once or twice? That being said if you miss tripping that much youve probably been overdoing it, you can absolutely get addicted to acid.

been like 5 months since i smoked any weed, feelsbad. Stopped cause theres not stopping my insatiable desire for more weed, i just slowly but surely build up more and more tolerance and keep smoking more and more to stay in the dank high. I wish i had self control.

>>739133861
ive tried lean a couple times and i can already tell that i would be a full blown junkie if i ever touch H.
the drug isnt a problem if you can afford it tbh

>>739136065
Im glad to hear your friend made it, and being afraid of something that will destroy you isnt being a pussy. Its being rational. Heroin is a god, but it is a wrathful and vengeful god.

File: 1499137760128.jpg (295KB, 2000x2000px) Image search: [Google]

295KB, 2000x2000px

>>739133861
Look into Kratom. Is a plant from Indonesia the ground up leaves work on the same opiate reactors in your brain as heroin. Has pain relieving properties, 100% legal, not addictive.

>>739136248
What state do you live in? Is it gay or hillbilly clientele?

>>739136059
Your purpose is to stay sober now. To not put your family through hell anymore. You are doing exactly what you need to do. Don't waste your life away anymore. make a change. move somewhere else. Find a new job. You will find more purpose. But you can't without being sober.

>>739136444
I have a bottle of kratom in the kitchen, problem is my fat ass doesnt like skipping breakfast and lunch to make it have a good effect, and the 3 days of constipation isnt worth the weak ass high.

>>739136482
Foco colorado. Gay

OCs back when the big oxy wave washed over the south..did that for about 4 years then went to subs..did subs for about 4 years and just figured that one drug is as bad as the other..so about 3 years ago made a call and started doing opainas i only do 10mgs a day and try to wait until the end of the day to do it..play warships snort a bit between battles and really dont feel that bad about being a head..if you are clean stay clean...but if you swim well take a dip...

>>739136493
yeah. i know that what youre saying is correct, and the reason i havent used is for my familys sake. But if they suddenly went away, i just dont know if i could hold on. My dad paid a fortune to put me in rehab and i really am grateful.

>>739136444
Not addictive my ass. Keep using it.

>>739136682
I miss oxy man. I've only done it a few times from my wife's old prescription but the time I took 40mg I could barely see and it was amazing

>>739136641
That honeslty sounds like as good a life as a dealer can have it except for all the party boy snitches. Howd you get into it?

>>739136557
Sounds like u have shitty Kratom, or you are taking very little. As far as skipping meals, I take it everyday...it is better on an empty stomache, I take about an hour be4 dinner...takes about 30 mins to kick in.

>>739136804
Have used everyday for over 2 years. If I miss a day is like not having my caffeine in the morning. Isn't like opiate withdrawl.

>>739136717
I can tell you this. If youre sober. Your family isn't going to abandon you. Your dad loves you alot for him to do that.. what helps for me is helping someone else who is struggling in recovery. Get out there and help the sober community. That's a great fucking purpose if you ask me. Everyone in recovery has these times of discontent. But it will pass. Stay strong brother

>>739136444
Kratom is very addictive my friend. Having been addicted to both h and kratom I'd take the h. Kratom makes you tired much quicker horrible stomach pains and very irritable. If you use it occasionally it's awesome but be careful because being able to go to the store anytime and get it can be a blessing and a curse. Make sure you get Bali if you do it though because it will feel like snorting h and you have to do 8 grams at least 16 capsules if you buy like that.

>>739136682
Havent touched an opiate in 3 years and that was just 2 days of fuck up after the first year. I replaced it with tons of alcohol though and its made me fat and sad. If what youre doing works then more power to you my dude. Honestly its healthier than my "legal" lifestyle.

>>739136904
ya..i when i fist did oxy it really made me feel 16 again..that does go away..i hate to think i am killing my liver to just feel normal...but damn games on pills what can i say

>>739136059
>When i was using i was filled with limitless purpose. Ever day i woke up and knew EXACTLY what I was going to do, what my life was about
u are the ultimate tweaker

>>739136927
I bought it at a smoke shop so for sure its shitty, I took between 6-9 grams the 4 times i did it.

>>739136493
Try working out or boxing. DO NOT do suboxone ornmethadone it's just a lifelong replacement trust me. Those clinics scam the shit outta people if you can distract yourself for a month or two by staying busy and working you will make it bud!

>>739137056
That sounds really good. Helping people has always been something I enjoy doing. Im afraid that my sobriety is fake though, and that id hurt more than i help.

>>739133861
>>>739136059
>>When i was using i was filled with limitless purpose. Ever day i woke up and knew EXACTLY what I was going to do, what my life was about
>u are the ultimate tweaker
>Implying tweakers wake up everyday

>>739137060
Have used everyday for over 2 years. If I miss a day is like not having my caffeine in the morning. Isn't like opiate withdrawl. There are many different good strains, I buy several kilos at a time and resell. Not trying to shill my business, just letting you know I have been doing this for a while with no harmful results. It may be people are getting shitty Kratom from their smoke shop, and not fresh from the farm.

>>739133861
I was going clean for two months but then I took some leftover tramadol I found last night. I felt pretty fucked up though, but now I am itching so bad and I really wanna drink or trip right about now. I want more, man.

>>739137142
I did H not criss, so i wasnt any kind of tweaker.
Also people underestimate the power of "purpose"
Motherfuckers blow themselves up for that shit.

>>739136022
Checked and yeah I'm right there with you

>>739137161
Ya, most packaged stuff being mass marketed is pretty shitty and old.

>>739137273
You can't hurt. Get out there and do service to the sober community. You will not regret it. Stop doubting yourself. You can and will make it through. I believe in you.

>>739137378
lol i fucking hated tweakers when i was using, either their asleep for 36 hours and useless; or i'm awake and trying to nod and those assholes are peaking out the windows and trying to fix my garbage disposal.
Like, motherfucker CHILL

>>739137427
I also feel pretty bummed now cuz I was just talking to some guys from an NA group the day before. They literally gave me my 60 day chip and now I did this. Fuckkk.

>>739137080
Liver? Do you use percs

>>739137583
But ive been drinking so much for almsot 2 years now. Id feel like a fraud in front of all the "program" people.

>>739137639
Yup I did my fair share of crystal but only mixed with H and I never liked it too much. Tweakers are gross and unpredictable. I'm glad I don't have to deal with people like that anymore though.

>>739136301
It's not so much the trip itself, it's more the freedom to know that I can trip whenever i want. I always had at least 6 weeks between tripping in the past

Yeah she has smoked weed, and also done shrooms once as well, long before I knew her

>>739137695
Its a nightmare man, but just dont hate yourself over this. That'l only make it worse.
If you want to talk at all id be happy to hear it.

>>739137785
Be honest. You can't be a fraud if you're honest. There's always room for improvement dude. No one is perfect. Work on your drinking now if you feel you need to. Just don't pick up that needle.

This is why I do coke, good high with manageable effects. Not once have I had withdrawal symptoms and I come and go from it as I choose, nothing negative other than a few hours of depression after the comedown

>>739138096
Nice. Some people can manage it. But don't let it get into your head that it won't fuck your life up. I know plenty of people that said the same thing you're saying now and are in jail or dead from coke. Be safe.

>>739137936
Have you told her that you consider the ability/freedom to trip is important to you? To me and many people ive known hallucinogens have been a borderline spiritual experience If you phrase it like that to her, and put it as a dialogue not an ultimatum, you could have a healthy talk about it. Maybe she wont love it, but she may understand.

>>739138090
Thank you man, I'm not sure i deserve the support. But thank you.

>>739137785
You are aware of your self though which is really good. You're gonna do great man. Get out there and make action.

>>739136907
Pnp adds on craigslist led me to it. I'm tryna upload a pic but my phone's being a bitch.

I get addicted to anything that makes me feel good. Alcohol, benzos, opiates, and Kratom, to name a few. Alcohol was definitely the worst, but kratom and opiates had very similar withdrawals imo

>>739138352
You've came this far. You do deserve it. Anyone trying to get sober and better themselves deserves support. Have a good one man. Glad i helped

>>739138261
>dead from coke
Nigger what
You'd have to be completely autistic to OD and I've never felt any agression or risky tendencies at all, I get more friendly and social is all

Sometimes when I'm drunk and run out of booze I drink lighter fluid.

>>739138402
I get that the money and lifestyle is great, I'm a straight 4chanish introvert and never lived that life, but I get how that infusion of money and sex can be intoxicating. Just be careful, not many drug dealers retired rich and old.

>>739138517
I've known people who ODd off slamming coke and a person in his 40s who had an incredibly premature heart attack and died from sniffing. It for sure can kill you.

>>739138518
Im not quite sure i believe you.

>>739138517
You have no idea what you're talking about. How about you read up on the things you do instead of being a blind retard.

>>739138518
No mouthwash or pure vanilla on hand?

File: IMG_7164.jpg (11KB, 233x198px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 233x198px

>>739138924
I have no idea about the way coke makes me personally feel? You must be tweaking now you fucking junkie

>>739138830
I don't have much money but I grow potatoes to make really shit shine and between batches of that I get low on booze. Mouthwash is a bitch because it only has <1% alcohol, it's cheaper just buying beer.

And what does pure vanilla do?

Lighter fluid started as a joke, one time I was drunk with a friend and I said I'm going to drink lighter fluid to kill myself because life is shit, he told me not to, so I thought it'd be funny to down some. It made me super light headed for a while and felt pretty good alongside being drunk so I do it again sometimes.

>>739139285
>>739139013
wait no sorry. I meant to ask you what pure vanilla does. excuse my shit posting skills.

File: images (1).jpg (3KB, 274x184px) Image search: [Google]

3KB, 274x184px

>>739139169
>implying coke cant kill you
>using only your not dead retard ass as prrof
being this retarded

>>739137951
Thanks, anon. It just feels so annoying cuz I just gave in so easily after two months, and now I am here begging my sister for some of her benzos. Ugh. Feelsbadman.jpeg

>>739139285
fuck man there are better ways to get high than that. Honestly youd be safer doing dustoff or some other grimy shit. But for real if life is that bad run away, do anything else, find a better purpose. If nothing else, I care about your struggle and wish you well. Much Love.

>>739139545
my friend's giving me his old car at the end of august. Not long left until I do just that. Going to drive to the other side of the country and start over from scratch, no more booze, no more shit.

thanks for the kind words man.

>>739139333
Of course coke can kill you just like every single other drug you fucking faggot, and you'd have to literally have Down syndrome to reach that point. coke is make for extended use and has one of the fastest onsets. Stay salty with your debilitating junkie substances

>>739139329
Both mouthwash and the vanilla were desperation moves. I ran out of vodka and still had the shakes and other less pleasent things. I don't recommend either but vanilla contains anywhere from two to thirty five percent alcohol depending on brand

>>739139721
Enjoy the cardiomyopathy and descent into degeneracy. Fucking cokeheads i swear their all the same.

>>739140029
Kek Oh really? I've noticed you haven't taken it upon yourself to elaborate on what you do.. I think I can guess based on the thread

>>739140029
yeah my dude im OP i did heroin for a long time then stopped. Now i drunk way to much.

>>739140171
>>739140263
drink too much* even

>>739133861

Go to Thailand. Wat Thamkrabok, the center’s actual name, is 100 percent free and has been since it opened in 1959. The detoxification phase, considered radical among Westerners, consists of drinking an herbal mixture at 3pm for the first five days, the result of which is a relentless deluge of vomit.

Its free other than your transportation there. But it has an incredible sucess rate

http://www.thedailybeast.com/why-do-addicts-seek-out-thailands-vomit-temple-for-rehab

>>739140263
>>739140314
Even better lmao you had to make an entire thread based on the life destroying effect your shit has had on you while I'm here railing lines with absolutely no consequence

>>739140263
Best advice is to quit drinking while you still can my friend opiate withdrawals make you wish you were dead. Alcohol withdrawals may actually kill you

>>739140447
projecting much

>>739140447
wow youre right 20 year olds who do cocaine by themselves have never been punished for it later.
Silly me to forget that.

>>739140421
Ibogaine treatment in Mexico would be a much easier option. I know a couple people that swear by it

>>739140621
>>739140677
>getting this butthurt
Stop trying to defend the fact that you couldn't handle your poison and got swept up in addiction, some people have self control

>>739139285

original formula Listerine is about 54 proof with 26.9% alcohol, and many of the mint flavored mouthwashes are almost 22% alcohol. The alcohol content of Scope weighs in at 18.9%, and Cepacol at 14%

im rolling hard as fuck on acid right now, ama while im still here

>>739140880
thats a very silly position to take my dude, when i was your age i was also immune to addiction.
That aside the circumstance of my young life that lead me to addiction are an important factor here regardless of drug of choice.
ALL that being said, how defensive you are about you addiction bodes very poorly for your future outcomes. Go well young man.

File: 20160918_093129.jpg (1MB, 2079x2609px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2079x2609px

I quit alcohol cold turkey a 6 months ago.
Had withdrawls that almost killed me
(DT'S and a seizure)

Can't smoke weed because of a condition called hypoglycemia (insulin shock)
I can't even drink coffie (only if its black or with a little milk can i drink it) or smoke cannabis anymore.
I quit cannabis cold turkey without shit happening.
Im sober of cannabis for 3 months
And alcohol for 6 months

Just a good diet of no suger or carbs to keep me going
Life is bland at this point.
I'm not going to be able to smoke for another year or so which sucks.

20 and never had any urge to drink or smoke or use any drugs stronger than pain pills. Didnt come from a straight edge family but they only drank wine once a year and never smoked. Is this not common?

>>739141192
youre rolling on acid?
that... what?

>>739141373
fuck man that some for real will power. Keep on doing it and stay healthy.

>>739133861
I started using drugs around the age of 20. I started by smoking spice, or K2. Then weed. After a while of being on those, I tried acid. Best drug I've ever taken to date. When I moved to a different area of PA, known as Schuylkill county, I got into harder drugs. I took lots of pain pills, drank lots of alcohol, took crystal meth, and smoked crack and snorted coke. After I quit hard drugs, which was 2 and a half years ago, I continued to smoke weed and also took shrooms and drank. Now that I'm off of all drugs for quite a while, I've been getting heavy cravings to go back to meth.

>>739141192
>>739141425
he's probably tripping so hard he thinks he's rolling

>>739141322
Oh yes wise seasoned junkie, what an inexperienced young man am I to be questizoning your all seeing smack addicted omnipotence

>>739137440
just make one dude.
ive barely survived my recent bouts of alcohol abuse due to getting my business running.

think im killing myself on both fronts actually.

>>739141660
this
also there was molly in the bag so

>>739141192
Watch interstellar, waking life, or a scanner darkly. Enjoy the uncontrollable emotional roller coaster and try not to let your brain explode from the overstimulation

>>739138577
>>739136907
http://imgur.com/a/Yr384

>>739141691
i for sure dont have the answers, but the fact youre doing coke alone and are incredibly defensive about your addiction reminds me of, well, a younger me.
Believe me it only gets worse for you.

>>739141841
i've seen it, plus i doubt i could get there or maintain attentiveness to make it worthwhile

>>739141891
fuck dog thats the fanciest meth pipe ive ever seen.
you should probably delete all those incriminating pictures ASAP lul

File: IMG_7082.png (183KB, 300x432px) Image search: [Google]

183KB, 300x432px

>>739141928
>I GOT ADDICTED SO EVERYONE ELSE MUST TOO
No, you're a lonely faggot that's trying to relate to anonymous imageboard posters in order to feel better about being a junkie

>>739142028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_MSFkZHNi4
The Double King
watch that shit homie

I absolutely love tripping on psychedelics. LSD, 2CB, mescaline, DMT, things like that. I acknowledge that I have a problem with alcohol and other downers, but I can't quite wrap my head around hallucinogens. I have tried to commit suicide a few times, and have had a few OD's. Makes me get the issue with booze and downers, but still, I want to believe I can trip safely and without risk.

>>739142412
no people who do drugs alone and then get really angry when people suggest they may be addicted, are also addicted.
For real friend.

>>739142620
Yes alone is best and I'm sure that's how you did it
I also do it with friends, dealers and anyone who isn't a condescending smackster trying to hand out life advice

>>739142412
shit bait or extreme denial, either way fuck em

>>739142510
i dont know how this makes me feel

>>739142867
Samefag/another opiate dependent
Either way samefag

>>739142845
You not really impressing anyone here anon, just stroking your own ego.

>>739142915
weird and uncomfortable is what it did for me, but i dig it

>>739142845
what life have i tried to hand out? This whole thread was contingent on me feeling lost.
But that doesnt mean you arent lost as well.
The sooner you learn how in danger you are the better your life will be.
I can only wish you well and encourage you to bravely look at yourself.

I have this rule were i wont take annything thats been chemicly prosessed in anny way, that being said i grow my own weed, shrooms, datura, have some poppies (the yield is a bitch tho but it gives me about 10 smokes a year n thats fine with me) i have acces to mimosa so i make dmt, have my peyote n san pedro for mescaline, i smoke dialy n trip my ass off once a month, idk drugs are great, and luckily i have restraint, i dont know what separated a "receiational user" from a full blown addict, i have kids to, i gues that helps, even with my little garden i function perfectly, u need to find your balance man, but H is bad, dont dive back in.. maybe try poppie tea ? U can order dried ones from ebay as ornaments.. i know its not the same but its still opiats.. annyway stay safe everyone..

File: IMG_7087.png (211KB, 467x467px) Image search: [Google]

211KB, 467x467px

>>739143115
>>739143380

>>739143691
fair enough, but assuming everyone is a troll is just drinking from the ocean of piss.

Yeah n for anny kid out there that just read the poppie tea, ebay ornament shit i said, please now u can overdose on it (meaning death.. meaning ur parents will find you dead in your room..). dont do it in the first place but if you do, document urself first, erowid.com has always been a good place to start..

acid guy here, can i take benzos to stop?