>>739133861 Damn, after 4 years? I've never tried h but that sounds horrible. Fentanyl that they're putting in it has been killing a lot of people in my area (east coast) be careful dude. My worst thing is adderall, I just feel tired as fuck not taking it but i think I'm naturally just tired as fuck and uninterested in most things so I can't really blame the drug. I've noticed I have much more of a sense of humor when I'm clean though
>>739134434 It comes in waves and its worse when i drink which i have been doing alot lately. But the urge never really went away. When people ask me what I want to do, I always lie and say i dont know. But i do know, i want to do opiods.
>>739134682 Well here's a tip from a paramedic if you decide to use it again don't be a dipshit and use your old routine maintenance dose that's how you idiots end up dead. So many god damn times have I heard "he's been clean for x months" or "he just got out of rehab" yeah and he fucking did his old dose. Tolerance is a real thing. Don't be a dumbass.
Haven't had any smack in 8 years. I did the 12 step thing and it actually worked for me. It's literally not apart of my thought process anymore for real. But I did get addicted to everything else non-narcotic along the way. You name it porn, food, gambling etc. it's a weird ass disease where the main components of the disease are to convince you that you don't have a problem. Best of luck though.
>>739135020 Also i firmly believe that when junkies get out of rehab, slam a G and OD and die; they committed suicide. Ask any addict what happens if you do that. They will all say "youll die." It's not like we dont know thats what happens. That shit is suicide.
>>739133861 I've been using opiates since I was 14. I started IV heroin at 17. I'm now 20. I just got back on suboxone on Friday. I don't see myself as sober but I'm gonna try at it again. Don't fall into temptation op. You'll end up worse. Or dead.
>>739133861 I've gone 6 months without tripping, because my gf don't want me to.. her views on drugs are demonalized, it's terrible. I don't know what to do, I miss lsd so much, and I wanted to work with it in the future.. but she is ruining everything
>>739135852 I miss having a purpose. My life feels empty and pointless now. When i was using i was filled with limitless purpose. Ever day i woke up and knew EXACTLY what I was going to do, what my life was about. That sense of purpose was so powerful. I feel lost without it.
>>739135140 My best friend just overdosed at the wheel and got into a head on collision 3 weeks ago. He and everyone involved lived and are okay. It scared both of us. I just got onto suboxone maintenance and am trying. I'm glad your friend lived and it scared you enough to try to stop. Good luck
>>739136055 Has she ever smoked weed? Theres a good case to be made that shrooms/lsd are similair. If you live in a legal state maybe try to smoke with her once or twice? That being said if you miss tripping that much youve probably been overdoing it, you can absolutely get addicted to acid.
been like 5 months since i smoked any weed, feelsbad. Stopped cause theres not stopping my insatiable desire for more weed, i just slowly but surely build up more and more tolerance and keep smoking more and more to stay in the dank high. I wish i had self control.
>>739136059 Your purpose is to stay sober now. To not put your family through hell anymore. You are doing exactly what you need to do. Don't waste your life away anymore. make a change. move somewhere else. Find a new job. You will find more purpose. But you can't without being sober.
>>739136444 I have a bottle of kratom in the kitchen, problem is my fat ass doesnt like skipping breakfast and lunch to make it have a good effect, and the 3 days of constipation isnt worth the weak ass high.
OCs back when the big oxy wave washed over the south..did that for about 4 years then went to subs..did subs for about 4 years and just figured that one drug is as bad as the other..so about 3 years ago made a call and started doing opainas i only do 10mgs a day and try to wait until the end of the day to do it..play warships snort a bit between battles and really dont feel that bad about being a head..if you are clean stay clean...but if you swim well take a dip...
>>739136493 yeah. i know that what youre saying is correct, and the reason i havent used is for my familys sake. But if they suddenly went away, i just dont know if i could hold on. My dad paid a fortune to put me in rehab and i really am grateful.
>>739136557 Sounds like u have shitty Kratom, or you are taking very little. As far as skipping meals, I take it everyday...it is better on an empty stomache, I take about an hour be4 dinner...takes about 30 mins to kick in.
>>739136717 I can tell you this. If youre sober. Your family isn't going to abandon you. Your dad loves you alot for him to do that.. what helps for me is helping someone else who is struggling in recovery. Get out there and help the sober community. That's a great fucking purpose if you ask me. Everyone in recovery has these times of discontent. But it will pass. Stay strong brother
>>739136444 Kratom is very addictive my friend. Having been addicted to both h and kratom I'd take the h. Kratom makes you tired much quicker horrible stomach pains and very irritable. If you use it occasionally it's awesome but be careful because being able to go to the store anytime and get it can be a blessing and a curse. Make sure you get Bali if you do it though because it will feel like snorting h and you have to do 8 grams at least 16 capsules if you buy like that.
>>739136682 Havent touched an opiate in 3 years and that was just 2 days of fuck up after the first year. I replaced it with tons of alcohol though and its made me fat and sad. If what youre doing works then more power to you my dude. Honestly its healthier than my "legal" lifestyle.
>>739136493 Try working out or boxing. DO NOT do suboxone ornmethadone it's just a lifelong replacement trust me. Those clinics scam the shit outta people if you can distract yourself for a month or two by staying busy and working you will make it bud!
>>739133861 >>>739136059 >>When i was using i was filled with limitless purpose. Ever day i woke up and knew EXACTLY what I was going to do, what my life was about >u are the ultimate tweaker >Implying tweakers wake up everyday
>>739137060 Have used everyday for over 2 years. If I miss a day is like not having my caffeine in the morning. Isn't like opiate withdrawl. There are many different good strains, I buy several kilos at a time and resell. Not trying to shill my business, just letting you know I have been doing this for a while with no harmful results. It may be people are getting shitty Kratom from their smoke shop, and not fresh from the farm.
>>739133861 I was going clean for two months but then I took some leftover tramadol I found last night. I felt pretty fucked up though, but now I am itching so bad and I really wanna drink or trip right about now. I want more, man.
>>739137378 lol i fucking hated tweakers when i was using, either their asleep for 36 hours and useless; or i'm awake and trying to nod and those assholes are peaking out the windows and trying to fix my garbage disposal. Like, motherfucker CHILL
>>739137639 Yup I did my fair share of crystal but only mixed with H and I never liked it too much. Tweakers are gross and unpredictable. I'm glad I don't have to deal with people like that anymore though.
>>739137785 Be honest. You can't be a fraud if you're honest. There's always room for improvement dude. No one is perfect. Work on your drinking now if you feel you need to. Just don't pick up that needle.
This is why I do coke, good high with manageable effects. Not once have I had withdrawal symptoms and I come and go from it as I choose, nothing negative other than a few hours of depression after the comedown
>>739138096 Nice. Some people can manage it. But don't let it get into your head that it won't fuck your life up. I know plenty of people that said the same thing you're saying now and are in jail or dead from coke. Be safe.
>>739137936 Have you told her that you consider the ability/freedom to trip is important to you? To me and many people ive known hallucinogens have been a borderline spiritual experience If you phrase it like that to her, and put it as a dialogue not an ultimatum, you could have a healthy talk about it. Maybe she wont love it, but she may understand.
>>739138402 I get that the money and lifestyle is great, I'm a straight 4chanish introvert and never lived that life, but I get how that infusion of money and sex can be intoxicating. Just be careful, not many drug dealers retired rich and old.
>>739138830 I don't have much money but I grow potatoes to make really shit shine and between batches of that I get low on booze. Mouthwash is a bitch because it only has <1% alcohol, it's cheaper just buying beer.
And what does pure vanilla do?
Lighter fluid started as a joke, one time I was drunk with a friend and I said I'm going to drink lighter fluid to kill myself because life is shit, he told me not to, so I thought it'd be funny to down some. It made me super light headed for a while and felt pretty good alongside being drunk so I do it again sometimes.
>>739139285 fuck man there are better ways to get high than that. Honestly youd be safer doing dustoff or some other grimy shit. But for real if life is that bad run away, do anything else, find a better purpose. If nothing else, I care about your struggle and wish you well. Much Love.
>>739139545 my friend's giving me his old car at the end of august. Not long left until I do just that. Going to drive to the other side of the country and start over from scratch, no more booze, no more shit.
>>739139333 Of course coke can kill you just like every single other drug you fucking faggot, and you'd have to literally have Down syndrome to reach that point. coke is make for extended use and has one of the fastest onsets. Stay salty with your debilitating junkie substances
>>739139329 Both mouthwash and the vanilla were desperation moves. I ran out of vodka and still had the shakes and other less pleasent things. I don't recommend either but vanilla contains anywhere from two to thirty five percent alcohol depending on brand
Go to Thailand. Wat Thamkrabok, the center’s actual name, is 100 percent free and has been since it opened in 1959. The detoxification phase, considered radical among Westerners, consists of drinking an herbal mixture at 3pm for the first five days, the result of which is a relentless deluge of vomit.
Its free other than your transportation there. But it has an incredible sucess rate
>>739140880 thats a very silly position to take my dude, when i was your age i was also immune to addiction. That aside the circumstance of my young life that lead me to addiction are an important factor here regardless of drug of choice. ALL that being said, how defensive you are about you addiction bodes very poorly for your future outcomes. Go well young man.
I quit alcohol cold turkey a 6 months ago. Had withdrawls that almost killed me (DT'S and a seizure)
Can't smoke weed because of a condition called hypoglycemia (insulin shock) I can't even drink coffie (only if its black or with a little milk can i drink it) or smoke cannabis anymore. I quit cannabis cold turkey without shit happening. Im sober of cannabis for 3 months And alcohol for 6 months
Just a good diet of no suger or carbs to keep me going Life is bland at this point. I'm not going to be able to smoke for another year or so which sucks.
>>739133861 I started using drugs around the age of 20. I started by smoking spice, or K2. Then weed. After a while of being on those, I tried acid. Best drug I've ever taken to date. When I moved to a different area of PA, known as Schuylkill county, I got into harder drugs. I took lots of pain pills, drank lots of alcohol, took crystal meth, and smoked crack and snorted coke. After I quit hard drugs, which was 2 and a half years ago, I continued to smoke weed and also took shrooms and drank. Now that I'm off of all drugs for quite a while, I've been getting heavy cravings to go back to meth.
>>739141691 i for sure dont have the answers, but the fact youre doing coke alone and are incredibly defensive about your addiction reminds me of, well, a younger me. Believe me it only gets worse for you.
I absolutely love tripping on psychedelics. LSD, 2CB, mescaline, DMT, things like that. I acknowledge that I have a problem with alcohol and other downers, but I can't quite wrap my head around hallucinogens. I have tried to commit suicide a few times, and have had a few OD's. Makes me get the issue with booze and downers, but still, I want to believe I can trip safely and without risk.
>>739142845 what life have i tried to hand out? This whole thread was contingent on me feeling lost. But that doesnt mean you arent lost as well. The sooner you learn how in danger you are the better your life will be. I can only wish you well and encourage you to bravely look at yourself.
I have this rule were i wont take annything thats been chemicly prosessed in anny way, that being said i grow my own weed, shrooms, datura, have some poppies (the yield is a bitch tho but it gives me about 10 smokes a year n thats fine with me) i have acces to mimosa so i make dmt, have my peyote n san pedro for mescaline, i smoke dialy n trip my ass off once a month, idk drugs are great, and luckily i have restraint, i dont know what separated a "receiational user" from a full blown addict, i have kids to, i gues that helps, even with my little garden i function perfectly, u need to find your balance man, but H is bad, dont dive back in.. maybe try poppie tea ? U can order dried ones from ebay as ornaments.. i know its not the same but its still opiats.. annyway stay safe everyone..
Yeah n for anny kid out there that just read the poppie tea, ebay ornament shit i said, please now u can overdose on it (meaning death.. meaning ur parents will find you dead in your room..). dont do it in the first place but if you do, document urself first, erowid.com has always been a good place to start..
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