I keep getting put in the friendzone. It's been 5 girls in a row now, going all the way back to the 8th grade.
Yesterday, I saw a unique opportunity to fix this problem All five of them were at the same party I was at, so I went up to each of them and asked them to meet me in the backyard. I gathered them all together in a group so that I could talk with them together. Once we were all standing in a circle I asked them point blank, "Why do I keep getting put in the firendzone"
The general consensus was that I never made a move. It really made me angry, because that is literally all I was thought I was doing. One of the girls could see that I was upset and asked me what was wrong. So I told them all. I told them that I had been trying to date each of them and everything I did for them I did with the motivation to seduce them.
They all laughed at me. THEY FUCKING LAUGHED AT ME. Then one of them said that she lost interest in me the moment I asked her if I could kiss her. Then two more laughed and said I had done that too. Long story short, when I asked for PERMISSION to kiss them, the instantly lost attraction for me.
We were required to take a sexual awareness class my freshman year of high school and in that class I was told that kissing a girl without asking for permission first was sexual assault.
Is that really what this world has come to? The only way to get a girlfriend is to sexually assault her by kissing her without asking permission?
>>738978206 hahahahaha you're a spaz Kissing a girl without asking for permission first is NOT sexual assault. Sexual assault would be kissing a girl without her consent, but there's a million non autistic ways to gauge if a girl wants to kiss you, like, you know, trying to kiss her WITHOUT asking. Man the fuck up if you don't want to die a virgin.
Bro, women don't respond well to nice guys, also they don't respond well to pussies. I pussy like you can get a chick to like you and may end up having sex with you one day. But there will come a day when some dick like me will fuck the shit out of her, make her cum, and I'll never text her back. That's life bro, there's always some guy who's gonna Fuck your gf and there's nothing you can do about it, because your a pussy
Shits stressful I get it op but get to know a chick and signs they give most girls will let you know with their eyes for instance my first move mad e was at the drive in and the girl made it clear as day she wanted it there's a certain look they give you'll start feeling the pressure of anxiety that's when you know
I love stories about things that never happened, created in an attempt to make a 'clever' point about any fill-in-the-blank social topic someone is butthurt over.
Next we get to hear the tale about how he totally went to a MAGA GOD EMPEROR TRUMP rally and punched those fascist antifas in the face before making them suck his foot long cock to apologize for getting blood on his knuckles.
>>738979686 “What does that mean — you have to say ‘yes’ every 10 minutes?” asked Aidan Ryan, 16, who sat near the front of the room. “Pretty much,” Ms. Zaloom answered. “It’s not a timing thing, but whoever initiates things to another level has to ask.”
>>738978206 Anon, I get it. I was a so-called "gentleman" at first too, not supreme gentleman material but still pretty cringy to women. You've gotta be friendly with em if you're into em, learn a minuscule amount about them enough that you can joke around and have fun with em. They aren't gonna hate you if you just wanna fuck but if that's all you want, chat em up and ask to fuck like chad. If you want a serious relationship then get to know em more, be friendly, care a little about their problems but don't go above and beyond to solve em. Don't be afraid to touch em or poke fun at em a bit, some like to wrestle around to feel out your strength as a man. Just be candid and have fun, life ain't about getting laid but if that's what you want then get in there and get it done. Quit complaining that they make it hard, they ALWAYS make it hard but you can be smarter, they are predictable to a certain degree like everyone is. The reason you keep getting friendzoned is because of that, they see what you want and would probably give it but they also see you aren't confident in yourself as a man. It makes them think you're beneath them like you're basically a woman with a dick. Sorry m8.
>go to a personal trainer i need someone to help me onto the machines >chubby girl works there >approach her >ask her how she's doing >go is this a joke? >felt bad >try to not talk to her since >hear her say he probably just going to play video games >kind of wanted to slap her as i tried another girl that's kind of what she said to me
>>738979975 precisely. now you're getting it sparky. And we know that straight girls aren't attracted to that behavior, which is why we wanted the law in the first place. So now you're in a position where you either put yourself at the mercy of your girlfriend or don't have sex.
What could be more empowering for women than for us to be able to have our boyfriend's expelled from school the moment they step out of line?
>>738980066 This conversation is about OP being a pussy, I was trying to highlight how dumb it would be to press charges against someone you rejected, seems a bit pointless, filling out all that work over a kiss
>>738978206 Lol, asking permission to kiss a girl always turns them off, dumbshit. You really thought something your school taught you would be the correct way to approach a girl? They basically want guys who aren't subservient to random authority.
OP you know what gets girls wet when you show up in your Prius with a blm shirt on snot cum dripping from your nose and you walk up to a girl palms sweaty and say ha...ha..hey cannn I fuh fuh fuuuuck your pa pa pa puddy plz. Then she says no u boring cum sucking faggot then you go home and whack ur gay little lgbtq weeny to traps
>>738980856 Why would someone press charges, when they're willing participants, dude if you pull out a piece of paper and ask in writing for permission I can almost guarantee you'll get shut down, unless she's a high quality hooker
>>738978206 I aint gunna read this cringe thread but I just wanna say that there's ways to receive a non-verbal consent to a kiss, OP. When you're flirting and shes comfortable around you and flirting back, that means she's probably not going to be disgusted if you get a little close. Lean into a kiss without asking. Give her enough time to push you or turn away if she's not digging the kiss, but dont make it obvious. Otherwise you can kiss her. It's not rocket science.
Look no matter what there are non lib tarted girls out there that will kiss you without needing a consent form or whatever the fuck find one fuck her bam your done otherwise enjoy the sweet relief of suicide
>Inb4 bait Anon, I just turned 21 and banged 15 different chicks since I was 16 (Not to show off, but for credibility.) What turns out to be of best practise, based on my personal experience, is 1. showing true interest the moment you talk to her the first time. Make her feel like she is the only one in the room you point your attention to the moment you start talking to her. The cliché 'look for the color of her eyes' is true, best however is to look above her nose (horizontal equal to her eyes, in the middle), this way she 'sees/thinks' you are looking directly in her eyes. 2. In conv, ask about things like if she's enjoying herself, who she knows from here ( if you're in a group/party whatever.) etc. Kinda feel what you need to ask. I really like smart girls, so I filter them out. I like jumping to questions what she does for an education, work she does (and why? Really, why someones picks a job says a lot about them + long conversation, which is what you want). For dumb girls, ask about parties, festivals, going out and shit. If they sound depressed, you can manipulate them by weaking their emotions directly and asking about their family's. Almost always they got issues at home, keep asking about it and tell her and say how awful it is etc. Don't advice and shit yet, this turns them away really. 3. If the possibility is there like at parties, ask if she can pick a drink for the both of you, and pretend you just saw someone you know and wanted to say hi quickly. This gives both of you a moment to process everything a bit, which is great, and gives you a moment to think about whether you like her or not. Kinda keep an eye on her, when she's almost finished walk up to her and ask her if she wants to sit somewhere together quietly to talk a bit more and relax. If she says yes, seriously, they always want you. Else they will decline and you know it's hopeless and just move on. 4. When you're sitting somewhere nice, go for it.
>>738979081 I dunno but here in Canada if you even touch a woman on her shoulder it could be considered sexual assaults. However as long as you're not autistic like OP you can usually pick up on social cues as to whether or not some girl is interested
>>738982590 >>738982626 >>738982782 Lol never change /b/. The other thing is a few weeks back him and I got into an argument because I said some politically incorrect shit and the last few years he's started acting a lot like some sjw. The fucken guy actually kicked me out of his house and we've been friends for 15 years.
>>738983237 I don't really care about anyone's opinion, faggot. I like to think that there is someone whom is just reading this thread, that has benefit from my experience. Not every thread on /b/ should be bullshit, sometimes helping other's is fine too.
>>738978206 >motivation to seduce them. >sexual awareness class >high school you're a special kind of stupid. though it did take some guts to actually get them together and ask them straight up. I'd suggest in the future from now on use that clarity with your next relationship. make your intent clear from the get-go instead of roundabout ways to "seduce"
Holly shit dude I surely hope you are a troll and this is not real, but in case this is here it goes:
You obviously need to change your approach, if they said that you never made a move its probably because you played it safe and casual the whole time with all of them or at least until it was too late and you made yourself too friendly.
When you meet a girl you have 3 options:
1. Make her your friend, which is apparently all you have been doing. 2. Ignore her, just meet her when you are in the same places without over doing it, not really caring about her (probably what you do to unattractive girls). 3. Straight up hit on her, don't think of her as a friend that could become your girl over time, ask her out, compliment her, make it obvious you are interested without outright saying it but don't be too pushy, and get away if they don't like you back, there is no point in overdoing it.
Nobody wants to hear about your failures, nobody is going to give you the ultimate answer on how to fix your life, you need to go at it, fail, ee what works and what doesn't and build your own strategy dont go around asking how to get out of the friendship its cringey and kills your chances with other girls that might hear about it because believe me, people gossip about this shit.
In other words, man up and hit on girls properly anon, you know you haven't done it, stop being casual and go to the point, download tinder and make a good profile to practice flirty chatting if you need to.
>>738978206 All you gotta do is not look like a nerd don't talk about your emotions walk straight all the time like you own everything everybody says it's cringey because these guys are actually jealous we walk like we own the place ANY PLACE. you wanna be that badass pick up on smoking or drinking most females love that shit pull out a cig even if you don't smoke or some weed at parties start drinking whiskey straight out the bottle like you done it since you were little then everytime comes smoother
>>738978206 Wow, you really are acting like these girls owe you something, they are not attracted to you so they are not interested in having a sexual relationship with you. So, instead of telling you to fuck off they still tried to be nice to you. You sound like one of these guys who thinks he is a nice guy but really isn't. No one owes you affection
It's pretty hard to explain how to hit on girls, it's a combination of letting them do most of the talking, make yourself funny and learning to read the signs so you know when it's cool to move further. I recommend you to get some attractive friends and go out with them a lot, watch how they flirt, what works for them and what doesn't it sounds like you are shy and analitical so this will do wonders for you, trust me, just don't ask straight up to other dudes to watch them flirt, make friends with them and that will also help a lot.
>>738981923 No, in Canada if you touch someone without their consent it is considered assault. For it to be sexual assault you need to touch them in an intimate part of the body,such as their breast. Also, this is not gender specific. Do you think the police are going to arrest you because you touched a persons shoulder?
>>738978206 >Is that really what this world has come to? >The only way to get a girlfriend is to sexually assault her by kissing her without asking permission? You're viewing this all wrong. Feminists and a handful of others (including some Christians) worked the legal system to make it illegal. It used to be accepted and many women prefer a man to take charge; current education and special interests tell you that you're sexually assaulting a person's mind/lips. This means you could go to jail and be raped for trying to kiss your date. It gives random people complete power over you if you choose to follow some rather typical romantic/dating/biological actions. That is what the world has come too.
And yes, I had to attend some of those sexual assault awareness programs.
>>738978900 >Kissing a girl without asking for permission first is NOT sexual assault It is/can be depending on the state/province/country. Colleges/unis that get public funding literally have to teach this, it's in the agreement related to Title IX.
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