What does /b/ think of transgenders is it a disease do they have a mental disorder personally I believe so
It's like fags.
You have the over top fags who are just this huge walking stereotype of gay.
Usually the ones you see at pride parades naked waving dicks around.screaming "ACCEPTANCE".
Then you have regular people, who happen to be gay. Regular normal people, who at the end of the day happen to like dick (or pussy), and I have no problem with those people.
Same with trans.
Some are just this weird over the top I need attention trans people, very Cringey, it's these people that have a mental illness.
And some just become trans, pull it off well, and go about their lives, these people are fine.
And the laws being passed to this day because they want special rights take for example this gender neutral bathroom bullshit that stupid nigger oboma implanted thank god we have trump now
they have mental Problems, like gays too. Nature is simpel male creature + female creature should it be. otherwise People could fuck them self and get Babys like few creatures, so anything not natural is a part against nature.
Its not like their already high suicide rates go down after operations. They will never be satisfied unless they take medication to suppress their urges like pedos. I dont know why society supports hormones and operation it isnt curing them.
>difference between gay and fag
There is no such difference, moron. It's only your south prejudice showing. Fancy, flamboyant or alpha males, regardless of any behavior, a gay will still be gay simply because the only criteria for that is to like the same sex.
1. Failing To Use an Individual’s Preferred Name or Pronoun
The NYCHRL requires employers and covered entities to use an individual’s preferred name, pronoun and title (e.g., Ms./Mrs.) regardless of the individual’s sex assigned at birth, anatomy, gender, medical history, appearance, or the sex indicated on the individual’s identification.
Most individuals and many transgender people use female or male pronouns and titles. Some transgender and gender non-conforming people prefer to use pronouns other than he/him/his or she/her/hers, such as they/them/theirs or ze/hir. 10 Many transgender and gender non-conforming people choose to use a different name than the one they were given at birth.
All people, including employees, tenants, customers, and participants in programs, have the right to use their preferred name regardless of whether they have identification in that name or have obtained a court-ordered name change, except in very limited circumstances where certain federal, state, or local laws require otherwise (e.g., for purposes of employment eligibility verification with the federal government). Asking someone their preferred gender pronoun and preferred name is not a violation of the NYCHRL.
That's not true. Dysphoria means you're dissatisfied with the way you are. Schizophrenia is manifested by physical symptoms which affect behavior. A dysphoria is closer to being your personality than a disease.
Examples of Violations
Intentional or repeated refusal to use an individual’s preferred name, pronoun or title. For example, repeatedly calling a transgender woman “him” or “Mr.” after she has made clear which pronouns and title she uses.
Refusal to use an individual’s preferred name, pronoun, or title because they do not conform to gender stereotypes. For example, calling a woman “Mr.” because her appearance is aligned with traditional gender-based stereotypes of masculinity.
Conditioning an individual’s use of their preferred name on obtaining a court-ordered name change or providing identification in that name. For example, a covered entity may not refuse to call a transgender woman her preferred name, Jane, because her identification says that her first name is John. 11
Requiring an individual to provide information about their medical history or proof of having undergone particular medical procedures in order to use their preferred name, pronoun, or title.
Covered entities may avoid violations of the NYCHRL by creating a policy of asking everyone what their preferred gender pronoun is so that no individual is singled out for such questions and by updating their systems to allow all individuals to self-identify their names and genders. They should not limit the options for identification to male and female only.
Next time, read all the shit instead of skimming.
It's a neurological disorder affecting less than one percent of the population. There are lots of self-image disorders out there where people feel like they are something that they demonstrably are not, but the gender one is the only one we treat by trying to make the body match the brain instead of the other way around.
Just call a faggot the way they wanna be called. Nigger is a pronoun too. You just don't say it if you know it's not cool to say it. If you don't know, ask. If you don't wanna ask, assume. If they get mad, they're a faggot but that's not on you 'cause you didn't know
Not catering to their delusions is not discriminating them.
I already decided that if I get trannies demanding I use a set of pronouns that don't match what they really are, they're getting nothing but Spanish from me.
It means if you get in trouble if you repeatedly call someone the wrong pronoun after repeated corrections. If I call a guy at work ma'am repeatedly, that's inappropriate behavior. And while I don't think you should get sued for either of those things, you can. Just don't be an ass. You'd be surprised how far you can get in life by not being an ass.
I can read just fine. You're the one who doesn't seem to be understanding the issue here.
Gonna use the transage fag from one of the articles posted here. If I were to refer to him as what he truly is, a male, and use the pronouns that correspond to his actual gender, I would get in trouble with the law for not referring to him as a female. We are basically expected to cater to their delusions or else we get in trouble.
Well yes If I call someone with xy chromosomes a her repeatedly I should get in trouble but if I call someone who is a fuckin tranny with XY CHROMOSOMES a him because ya know it's still a guy I would also get in trouble
Watches at $0 ?
They're just words mate. Their association with chromosomes are purely sociological. There's no real reason for it. Anyway, just don't call people what they don't want to be called. If you can't do that, just call them by their name.
Hey I support equal rights for trannies and gays too.
It doesn't hurt me at all that they are fucked up.
I don't think the crazy homeless guy on the corner should have any less rights than I have either.
I'm just not going to play pretend that he isn't crazy and homeless, just like I won't pretend trannies aren't mentally ill.
So, you're saying that you support catering to the delusions of people who believe they're the opposite sex, both or neither because you believe in equal rights? Ok, then I'm going to assume then that you support people who claim to be a different species, a different age and a different race.
Goddamn I used to have so much love and respect for NatGeo.
Remember when it was cool interesting shit like Space and the environment?
Now they're pandering to these degenerates.
Please God, Allah, Bob Marley, anybody, please end us and start over. We failed long ago.
>tfw aboriginal crossdressers look exactly like normal aboriginal women
Being different is just biological variability. Hating people for being different is mentally deranged.
/pol/ is our containment board for the mentally deranged. You are in the wrong board.
>social acceptance of a mental illness as a state of being isn't going to affect you, or your children, or your grandchildren
>they're not hurting anyone except everyone who cares about them and wants them to live satisfying lives
I know society is fucked anyway but this is one of the results, which will snowball and become the cause of another issue in the near future, believe me.
Sort of agree, though gays don't always act up for attention, it's a part of gay identity to be loud and proud and for some it's a safety mechanism (identifiability and acceptance as a minority by fitting a well-received stereotype). I know a few gays that were flamers in high school so they could be accepted by the girl groups, for example.
I do think there are genuine trans people out there (like the 50-something police officer I read about a few months ago), but so many that I know personally (which, admittedly, is only a few) have had mental illnesses and violently swinging senses of identity since prepuberty, and have basically self-diagnosed themselves from information found on the internet before seeking a genuine opinion (by which time they know what to say to "prove" they're trans). This is bolstered by any amount of time on Tumblr or any other blindly pro-LGTBQI websites or communities, where young trans people all seem to have struggled with life way before their gender identity was a big issue in their life. I think it's really fucked that this community, deliberately or not, effectively preys on already weak members of society to bolster their ranks.
>tl;dr there are probably some people out there who can't be comfortable as their sex-gender and need to make the change, but a lot of them are mentally ill victims of a fad identity that could harm their bodies for life, imo
>spending her time playing and coloring with her adoptive parents' grandchildren.
If I found out my parents were letting my kids play with a mentally ill 50 year old man while I wasn't around, my parents would never see my kids again.
I think I don't care. I'll call a man a man if he looks that way and not be offended if he tells me to call him a she instead. As long as a big deal is not made out of it I won't really care about the mental technicalities, there are people out there with more severe defects than wanting to be the opposite, or a made up, gender.
transgenderism is the epitome of "feelings" trumping reality.
it is most definitely a mental disorder (usually), altho there are sometimes hormone imbalances that lead to transmanifestation or ambiguity of genitalia, but those are very rare.
I have no issue with trans people, and nobody else did 10 years ago. It's the transTrenders that are pissing everyone off - the special snowflakes who "identify as" everything under the sun except male or female.
Actual trans people identify as male or female, not trans. They may or may not have a mental disorder - that's a debate I frankly couldn't care less about. But legit trans people don't fuss about stupid shit, they don't contact the news over every perceived slight against them, and they try to live their lives as normal people.
So no, I don't give a shit. I treat them like any other random person and I'll refer to them however they want ("he" or "she" - there's no other option) because why should I care?
I don't get how people like this are so accepting of this sort of thing. If my wife suddenly decided she was transgender and wanted to become a man, our marriage would be over instantly.
I wish stuff like this was more accepted so it could be studied more.
I think the current climate of acceptance and insistence that transgenderism is not a mental disorder actually harms transgender people.
I think if everyone just admitted "yeah, it's a mental disorder" then there would be more effort to find treatments for it.
Honestly, there's nothing wrong with wanting to look different. just because someone's born male doesn't mean he has to have short hair and can't wear make up or whatever... But legitimately wanting to change your DNA and pretending to genetically BE the opposite sex is just insane. There wouldn't be so many problems with this shit if people didn't slap a gender label on every single behavior when it comes to the way people dress, i.e "gender fluid", "bigender", "transsexual" etc. If those people want to be accepted, they shouldn't run around and scream "I'M TRANS, TOLERATE ME," but rather just say, "yeah, I was born fe/male, but this is just how I dress."
>as long as their life doesn't interfere with mine
Lets be real here guys theres nothing wrong with being gay and we all know it weve all met a gay guy and went "you know what? your pretty cool for a faggot" and shit half of yall are gay you may not want to admit it but traps are gay and its ok its ok if your gay as long as you arent weird or a fairy but trans are fucking disgusting they all needa fucking die from a aids infested rusty spoon and be hurled off a fucking cliff
Fag enablers are cancer, and they reject wisdom. Look at how they praise (((compassion))) and denounce actively treating this guy's brother like an addict addicted to female trappings.
Psych-Major here. Will keep it short.
There still has to be more science done on GID. But from the look of the research out there, it seems like a genetic/neurological disorder, specific to the parts of the brain which have to do with identity.
Meaning, for all intents and purposes, transgenders have a brain with a different gender than their sex. They are born that way. (Because your gender identity is not a social construct.)
Think of it like albino. It's just a weird mutation that happens more or less regularly and that can be treated, but not healed.
(And even if it could be healed, I'd expect more conservative people to be the first to be skeptical about surgically manipulating peoples personality/identity.)
Also I have yet to see any research which points to it being a "psychological disorder", meaning resulting from something like trauma.
Now this is not to say that there aren't false self-identifications of non-cis-gendered. i.e.: There is a reason the rate of self-identified transsexuals among subcultures like "furries" are about 50x higher than the average population. So I remain skeptical about the 3429842346 genders, which supposedly exist.
Tho I suppose if things can go wrong neurologically to "switch" gender identities, people may exist who are missing that identification altogether. Either way, I strongly suspect there are many confused people in those subcultures.
And I'd like to mention how worried I am about striking GID/GD from diagnostic manuals. Essentially all this accomplishes is making it more difficult for transsexuals to get the treatments they need and want.
And it's catastrophic for research, which is already difficult as is. All because snowflake morons ironically stigmatize psychiatric disorders.
>Essentially all this accomplishes is making it more difficult for transsexuals to get the treatments they need and want.
Mutilating their bodies isn't solving the problem. It's just further encouraging it.
Is there still cool magazines out there that are worth reading that don't pander now?
Like how the history channel is for cucks anymore too. I just want to some cool space and history shows.
I was mainly speaking of hormonal therapy. But yes, if it reduces the gender dysphoria symptoms and resulting depression/suicide rates, it helps.
There is nothing to be encouraged. It's a trait, not a state. And I'll remind you that keeping it a disorder will help with diagnostics, which will in turn reduce the amount of pseudo-transsexuals and parents who self-diagnose their kids as trans.
Does anyone realize how anti-trans-faggots are essentially arguing that gender is a social construct, while 323423-gender-snowflakes make it out to be "essentially like homosexuality"?
This whole conflict is retarded. We are talking about way less than 1% of the population here.
It's akin to intersex. Get over it.
Except that suicide rates are actually higher among trannies that transitioned.
If anything, they should be looking for remedies that can eliminate the feelings of dysphoria and make them accept their body as it is.
I know, but it is unclear why.
Tho the fact that the operation is shit and leaves most incapable of having normal sex probably is the reason why.
Which is why most trans never go through with it.
Hormonal therapy, however, works.
And there are remedies, in therapy, for dealing with the "wrong" genitalia.
Again, making a clear distinction here between actual trans people and simple nutjobs.
What I'm saying is that if someone has a penis and XY chromosomes, that person's a male and no amount of surgery and injections will make him a female. Same goes for someone who has a vagina and XX chromosomes. No amount of surgery and injections will make her a male.
>construction a coherent sentence is hard
That poor poor bastard married a qt3.14 thats turning herself into a dyke that would be like buying an nice apple pie only to find out its had its filling replaced with dogshit
The idea of transgender is fucking ridiculous. How about accepting yourself for who you are and stop trying to be something you are not? Any "doctor" who performs these mentally ill operations needs to have their licenses revoked
Neither one, there are people who are born without legs, there are people who are born with three arms, and there are people who are born with the gender changed in relation to the body, so it's not a disease is more like something that happens, nature isn't perfect.
If you are born male and think you should legit be a female like fully 100% believe you should be female you are mentally ill just like being gay or being a pedo you are mentally ill man
This wouldn't be triggering if they weren't blatantly wrong about Google'able facts
"1 in 15 civil war solders died"?
The Union army has 2 million soldiers, the Confederates had 1 million. There were 700,000 casualties.
That's a 1 in 4 chance of dying, excluding the number injured.
Even if the odds of a transgendered person of color getting murdered were 1 in 8 (which is highly doubtful), that's still half the odds of dying in the civil war.
How the fuck can you tell what's what???