Why?

Stupidity.

Why expect anything else

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>>738841403

>Stupidity.

Yeah but is it really possible to be that retarded? He must have consulted with someone before.

>>738841361

His reps said it was for transparency. Some news paper was going to run the story, so they figured that by releasing the emails themselves it would give them a sort of "preemptive damage control."

plus, it lets them potentially isolate it to Donald Jr. They get him doing to rounds, make him the face of the scandal, and he can take the hit in the public mind which (at least they hope) will prevent people from connecting it to the administration.

>>738841523

Not that many people since part of the meetings nature would be discretion.

It's quite possible he was advised not to go. Then he went anyways.

Or that what little advice he sought was bad, and he was told to go for it.

In the end it was stupidity. Ignorance or arrogance pushing it along.

>>738841679

He wasn't alone at the meeting.

Donnie's campaign manager (Paul Manafort) and his son in law and advisor (Jared Kushner) were there.

There's no voiding the link, the sole purpose of the meet was info to discredit the opposing candidate.

>>738841906

why stupidity? why bad advice?

he himself keeps asserting that what they did was logical. the Russians offered them "dirt" on Hillary and cooperation with their campaign. in their own words, they thought it would be absurd not to pursue that opportunity.

whats the issue? their are allegations that the trump administration cooperated with the Russian government to help win the election. this email chain demonstrates the avenue in which contact was first made.

to just call it stupidity makes me think this thread is another trumpgeneral effort to undermine real discussion about the issue. fucking damage control at its most complicated.

>>738842089
>get info on opposition
Non american here, but is that actually illegal? He wasn't a public servent at the time of the meeting. What's the sticking point about thos meeting?

>>738842089

that's what I'm saying tho; Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner aren't making the rounds. They keep having Donald Jr explain everything, so if they cant get the spin to go in their favor they can just blame it all on Donald Jr since the American public now associates his face with the problem.

its most likely that the trump administration cooperated with the Russian government. this is what the establishment of a channel looks like. its the first step on a rough road of us figuring out what happened and how it happened.

and to say the sole purpose of the meet was to "discredit the opposing candidate" is exactly why you need to read the emails yourself. but tbh fam, I'm pretty sure you are a stormfag for the trump and this thread is meant to draw attention away from the issue.

>>738842141

Because it was a stupid meeting to take.

>in their own words, they thought it would be absurd not to pursue that opportunity.

And therein lies the stupidity. They even thought it would be stupid not to, and if with seeing the fruits of the meeting, al it's brought about now, if you can't see it was stupid to go, you are stupid too.

>>738842294

It happened two weeks after he got the nomination. He was a candidate in a presidential campaign.

Ethics and laws apply while only running, anon.

>>738841361
There only one thing I never got about Trump and his supporters. Did none of them realize that Trump dosn't give a flying fuck about poor people aka the guys who voted for him.

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>>738841906

>In the end it was stupidity. Ignorance or arrogance pushing it along.

No more House of Cards and Game of Thrones for that idiot.

How will he ever recover?

>>738842317

Sure, it was the children, that's what they met about.

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genetics

It didn't seem like it was that bad to me, basically some chick emailed him and said she had dirt, he got there, she had no dirt.

Am i missing something? I figured for there to be collusion there had to be a clear "i'll scratch your back you scratch mine" this email doesn't seem indicative of that.

>>738841361
he's not a democrat.

>>738842294

it depends on what kind of information and how it was obtained. for example, the DNC hacks which were linked to the Russian government. if the Russians planned on launching a cyber campaign against a US political party in an effort to help another US political party, if the benefiting party had knowledge of this and colluded it would be incredibly illegal.

plus, you have to understand that the issue is about more than just if laws were broken. even if he manages to be found having broken no laws, his collusion with a foreign power to affect the outcome of a US election has a lot of moral issues. right now, tbh, that is the primary focus of the discussion in America. especially when you consider all the stuff he vilified his opponent for, and now he is potentially guilty of himself to an extreme extent.

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>>738842378

>Did none of them realize that Trump dosn't give a flying fuck about poor people aka the guys who voted for him.

It's in the nature or Republicans not to give a shit about poor people. What you probably are talking about is his fellowship of poor white working class voters. My guess is that a good part of them is retarded. The other part just hopes he will get them jobs after they were let down for 40 years by all other administrations.

>>738842467
sad

>>738842530

True, there's hipocrisy to point out there as well.

>>738842548
yawn
still mad about that election huh kid.

>>738842555

>without the exclamation mark, the trips were wasted

>>738842405

no you fucking magapede, they met about a lot of shit and not just "dirt on Hillary." they discussed possible ways the Russian government to assist in the election and one of the emails suggests that they might have known about the Russian cyberterrorism.

>>738842599
not a fag like you.

>>738842603
y u mad?

>>738842603
why to exaggerate kid

>>738842637

Des

Pa

Cito

>>738842701
sad

>>738842294
That meeting happen a year ago.

Long before there was a President Trump.

To the leftist media, all Russians work for the Kremlin.

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>>738842585

>still mad about that election huh kid.
>kid

I'm 35.

>>738842766
sure you are.

>>738842731

no, just the Russians that claim to be working for the Kremlin.

there is more evidence in the emails for collusion than in the emails you people decried Hillary for. the point is, a foreign power challenged the sovereignty of our country and instead of figuring out what to do about it and how it happened, you and your ilk just want to feel like you had a total victory.

link related. we president now, right magapede?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/airbnb-host-5000-fine-canceling-over-race/

>>738842141
And why are none of you focusing on the fact that their was dirt on Clinton? You keep acting like your side wasn't looking for every angle possible. You're still crying about tax statements etc. When the information on Hillary did leak you responded the exact same way the Trump team is now, but where were you then? The dial standards both side maintain just leads to continually obfuscate the real problem: Governtment hasn't really done much for any of is for a very long time.

>>738842731

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/11/trump-jr-burns-gop-defenders.html

>liberal media

I really like it when this is downplayed, chuckle every time.

Oh look, shills.

>>738842918
sad.

>>738842959

But there wasn't.

Trump Jr even said they provided no meaningful info.

>>738842378
You mean like Obama who forced us to participate in health care but made it optional for the companies who deliver the service. Tell me he was for the people and not wall st.

>>738842959

can you please link to the email in question? the problem "my side" had was that there were grand leaps of faith you people kept taking. an email had some suspicious stuff in it, and you create a conspiracy about child sex slaves in a pizzeria.

but as a more direct question, do you think his collusion with the Russian government in order to obtain this so-called dirt was an OK thing to do?

>>738841361
>red handed
Hey why aren't liberals caught red-handed for spending MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars investigating an issue that clearly never existed?

Sounds like palm-greasing bullshit to me.

>>738843096

You Fucking child, who's talking about Obama?!

>>738842526
Stop with this logical thinking. The witch hunt must go on

>>738843096
delivered to the ins. companies on a silver platter.

>>738842766
maybe the reason Hillary lost is because you liberals are far too arrogant and self-righteous.

I'm not even an amerifat or right-wing but I'd have voted for him just to watch you liberals cry in the streets.
I felt so much joy reading through your "heartbreaking" facebook posts and drinking in your tears in the months after the election. You were so fucking CERTAIN she'd win that the result was that much more hilarious.

>>738843108
still mad about that election.

Breaking news: 1 other person (russian agent) was in the room with the lawyer and trump Jr. If kushner didn't have the agents name on his third update of his security clearance forms, he will have to update it a 4th time.

>>738842526

I know!

Once I mugged this lady and a cop saw but the lady already told me she had no money!

I mean Wtf, nothing happened anyways!

>>738842294
No, not even a little bit. Which is why nothing is coming of it.

>>738843177
she lost because nobody likes a feminist.

>>738843108
>and you create a conspiracy about child sex slaves in a pizzeria.
This will never cease to crack me up
I lost a great deal of respect for a friend that day because he just believed it without any proof whatsoever, completely foregoing common sense

>>738843177

>voting just to spite other people

No, YOU'RE the reason Donnie won.

>>738841361
Nepotism never pays out. Stuff like that happens when you hand out responsibility like that to some inbred retards like the trumps. I guess that won't be the last time Uday and/or Usay Trump will fuck up. Hell, it's just a matter of time until the rest of the Trump spawn Cesare and Lucrezia will have gov jobs too.

>>738842294
>>get info on opposition
>Non american here, but is that actually illegal? He wasn't a public servent at the time of the meeting. What's the sticking point about thos meeting?

Remains to be seen but as for the question of Russian/American collusion, there was.

>>738843222
but yet the Russian thing solders on.

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>>738842959
End doesn't justify the means in this case. We're still (for now) a country of laws. Even though trumpettes yell and scream about "activist judges" when they lose a case.

>>738843108
Prove to me it was the Russian "government" and I'll show you an email.

>>738843238
and I love the fact you cry constantly about it.

>>738843096

>forced us to participate in health care

how? do you file taxes? you do understand that you don't have to pay the fine for not having health coverage if you make less than 35k a year. and if you make more money than that, the fine is scaled based on your total income OVER 35k and what the healthcare market looks like in your state. if you elect to not have healthcare, your fine could be as low as 65 USD for the entire year.

the goal was to ensure that people who could afford healthcare were getting covered instead of using their wealth to pay out of pocket, something lower income americans have no choice for.

>>738843278

Cause that's verifiable.

See the question is not how much you like a story, but how much weight it carries.

>>738843177
>but I'd have voted for him just to watch you liberals cry in the streets.
People like you is why democracy tends to be a mess
Voting for your government is about the most significant thing you do in your life, and you'd use your vote to satisfy shit-tier feelings like spite

>>738843318

You vote to spite other people.

You lost already, other people decide your vote.

>voting from emotion
I though it was only liberals who did that.

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>>738841361
You ignorant /b/ tards. Lurk in /pol/ more. It was a FUCKING SETUP by the globalists which Obummer and Lyncherself facilitated. Grow up.

>>738843321
And I lost my plan and my rates crippled.

>>738843302
sad

>>738842294
lol no butthurt libs and dems are running out of steam. They are trying to push the gratuity law to impeach and they'll fail harder than shillerys campaign. Give it a month and theyll jump onto the next tantrum train.

>>738843313

prove to me Hillary did anything wrong, and ill show you the "Russian government" proof.

also, just fyi, you make a claim first and I asked for support of you claim. if you then demand that I provide support for another issue before you will support your claim, that is tantamount to you admitting your claim is unverifiable.

>>738843383
>Lurk in /pol/ more
Who would willingly do such a thing

>>738843096
Obama made the mistake of collaborating with the republicans. It was a weak bill due to their little "tweaks", and then the repubs systematically weakened it further with additional bills.
They doomed the ACA on purpose. They don't give a shit about anything but "beating Obama"

>>738843383

Again, stupidity.

They shouldn't have gone. I get offered illicit shit all day, I don't jump for it.

>>738843378
actually, you lost. Keep dreaming pal. Maybe someday Hillary will make another run

>>738843426

what state are you in? do you know that are states whose governors have refused to accept federal money to help subsidize plans? their goal, of course, is to make people like you upset because your plan got kinked but instead of blaming local leadership you just blame the black guy.

>>738842526
For a conspiracy charge to stick, it must be proven that two or more individuals met with the intent of committing a crime. Even if no crime was committed, the intent will screw him.

>>738843310
taking from the will of the people.
isn't that what you're complaining about now.

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>>738843276
There was what? PUT THE CNN KOOLAID DOWN.


ITT CTR 2.0

>>738843328
it carries weight only for the weak.

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>>738843177

>thehill.com
>news site

Post an inforwars article about stuff they add to drinking water next.

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>>738841361
He knows they all need punishment.

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>>738843446
/pol/ is legit news now. Google is even citing it.

>>738843330
>>but I'd have voted for him just to watch you liberals cry in the streets.
>People like you is why democracy tends to be a mess
>Voting for your government is about the most significant thing you do in your life, and you'd use your vote to satisfy shit-tier feelings like spite

Exactly. Being a selfish, shitty person with shitty values isn't something to boast about.

>>738843238
and?

Only difference between Hillary and Donald is that he's a worse liar.

If you think the corporate world (and foreign interests) didn't finance like 90% of hillary and obama's campaign, you're fucking blind (and can't read fact sheets).

The Clintons are scum. Enjoy your loss.

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>>738843566

What would be the point of setting up Trump if it only comes out 9 month after the election?

Let me guess they knew were going to lose and planted a landmine that would blow up after the election to win the elect to well...but her emails!

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>>738841361
Why? Because he knew he couldn't win without cheating. Exact same reasons republicans use gerrymandering.

Exact same reason trump threads get spammed with ugly pictures. They can't in a fair fight.

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>>738843460
If someone said they had dirt on Hildamort I wouldn't fault anyone for falling for it. The globalists must be stopped at any cost.

>>738843713

>Hillary is a crook too
>she is a liar
>there is no proof because she is so good at lying
>Donald is a criminal
>he is a liar
>there is overwhelming proof he is a liar and a criminal but it doesn't matter because Hillary is better at lying than him and she is worse because she got rid of all the proof

kek

>>738843591

The people in government are pretty weak I guess.

>>738842530
>the DNC hacks which were linked to the Russian government

No they weren't and all of those "hurr 17 intelligence agencies" have all redacted their opinions on that.

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>>738843629

Fucking cat murderers. In the old times /b/ would have hunted them down!

>>738843713

If Hillary is so much smarter then maybe you should have voted for her.

In the end they seem equally corrupt yet not equally competent? I'll take the one who isn't an idiot.

>>738843378
sure kid.
didn't want to hear how progressive we are while taxes and health care went through the roof.

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>>738843791
Hildamort IS a criminal guilty of selling our countries sovereignty for favor/cash. Trump is just a loose cannon patriot businessman.

>>738843460
sure you do

>>738843778

Yes of course, Donnie Jr. was a crusader who only saw an opportunity to fight the globalists.

>>738843874

But taxes were raised anyways. So good job.

>>738843806
sad

>>738842918
>there is more evidence in the emails for collusion than in the emails you people decried Hillary for

Wrong again. There were emails from Donna Brazile (who subsequently got fired) that were full of blatant collusion not to mention the mountain of emails from major media outlets like CNN, Vice, and the NY Times promising to do whatever they could (even outside the bounds of morals and ethics) to get her elected.

All that versus an email trail where one Russian made vague and ambiguous references to having "dirt" on Hillary.

You really need some perspective pal.

>>738843965
sad

>>738841361

Russia gives Trump a gift

Trump owes Russia

This is why it's illegal. This is why Trump and JR are traitors. We cannot have a president that owes his presidency to a foreign state

>>738843819

ummm.....not they didn't? they even formally accused the Russian government. wow, you are stormfagging hard today.

>>738842918

my memory aint that bad nigga

>>738843971

link totally related friend

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgwLHAC5mk9Ghblc6O7AXzxX5dNLlMg0hHUn-D_Ay7I/htmlview

>>738844011
sure kid

>>738843535
People are blaming "the black guy" because he was responsible for the part of OBAMAcare that restricted interstate competition and literally created monopolies (which are illegal in the US) in no less than 8 states. He's literally the reason why premiums have more than doubled in some states because they have no competition and the "marketplace" has 1 single provider.

Anon this is áll moot anyway we only have to deal with the BS for a few more years. Then it will all be a big to do again for our shitty two party system where nobody wins anyway.

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>>738843840
Right?!
I cant stand this
Id kill Beavis and Butthead bare hands

It's only children, when confronted with what they did, start mentioning other slights, from other children in separate occasions.

>but Susie did.....

Sad!

>>738841679
That "some Newspaper" was the New York Times

>>738844052
its named after him. his party voted on it.
what's there not to blame.

>>738843791
"Clintons are innocent"

>multiple Clinton rapes
>accepting money from the Saudis (A barbaric country with terrible equality and human rights records)
>anti-gay until 2 years previously
>can't protect state secrets
>"Teneo" - the literal definition of corporate interests/lobbyists dominating Washington (Clinton is a key figure)
>caricature of the white elite
>can't win an election

Yeah she seems like a good choice there, bud. Looks like we really missed out on a saint

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>>738843750
No one "cheated" at anything dumbass except the Dem voting districts CAUGHT re-scanning straight Den ballots up to 6X. Take that, and the estimated 3-5M illegal votes and Hildamort LOST her own rigged election by 3-4M.

>>738842526
If you attempt to rob a bank, and end up not getting any money, you will still be arrested.

>>738843971

please read the emails. stop getting the spin from infowars.

and please link to the emails from the major media outlets. you keep claiming they exist, even thought they don't.

and again, even if they did, I'm pretty sure domestic companies supporting a candidate isn't as bad as a foreign entity doing it. and I don't recall reading about CNN hacking the RNC and attempting to tamper with voting machines.

>>738844093
some newspaper would be correct.

>>738843750
How many Democrats in the DNC or media were outted and fired for serious ethics violations in the last campaign (ie "cheating")?

Now how many Republicans in the Media or GOP were fired/had to resign?

Democrats gerrymander just as much as Republicans so you're either completely clueless or just willfully ignorant and projecting.

Hillary commits a crime, therefore Trump is allowed to commit a crime.

>actual Republican logic
>actual logical fallacy
>this is why Americans are suckers

>>738843929
Follow his Twitter. He bashes the Deep State constantly.

>>738844141
you appear to be confused.

>>738844126

>accepting money from the Saudis (A barbaric country with terrible equality and human rights records)

Didn't Donnie just accepting some sort of honour from them and then ritually danced with them afterwards?

Wasn't that like the only state Donnie got along with during that tour, the savages?

Cause they seem to really like Donnie.

>>738844035

good comeback! Very insightful. You sure broke my argument.

>>738844195

Yeah, I dunno if there's a way to fire a son.

>>738844231
sad

I peed in gf's glass when he was on the toilet and she drank it

>>738844199
>you appear to be confused.
How so? Robbing a bank while getting no money is still robbing a bank, no?

>>738844243
see that's where the problem is.
you think you have an argument.

this is going to bite the Republicans in the ass a thousand times worse than Rod Blagojevich to the dems

>>738844308

When she is on the toilet, it's clearly a he then?

>>738844341
good counter!

totally disassembled my argument

I submit!

>>738844231
Foreign leaders shake hands and smile for cameras. Crazy right?

Saudis financed a large chunk ($20mil +) of the Clinton campaign, actively meddling in the election with their actual CASH. You think foreign countries shouldn't be able to influence elections? Maybe look within your own 'party' too.

>>738842603
liar. Post the quotes or shut the fuck up.

>>738844333
sorry. you are confused.

>>738844142
I don't subscribe to infowars or read/listen to any of their shows/podcasts.

>please read the emails
>please link the emails

Which is it? Have you read them or not? It can't be both. First you're boasting like you have a more sound interpretation of the emails then you're asking people to link you to them? What a fucking clown.

>I'm pretty sure domestic companies supporting a candidate isn't as bad as a foreign entity doing it

And I'm sure you were out marching in the streets and whining like this when the Saudi government gave Hillary 20+ million in cold hard cash over the course of her elections right? No you're just another hypocrite.

>>738844196
this

>>738844351
sure kid

>>738844052

>restricted interstate competition

ummm.....that was in place before Obamacare dog. insurance has never been able to compete across state lines, namely because each state has their own rules about what has to be in coverage options.

I want to break down the rest of what you said, but it was all hinging on the state lines thing, which again, was not Obamacare. Its been that way almost always.

They are all corrupt there is no reason to deny otherwise . The only thing that i can say thats positive about hillary vs Trump is that at least hillary Didnt offend 90% of the world with her tweets and blatant disregard of other world leaders .

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>>738843177

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>>738843971
IT WAS A SETUP

> You dense motherfucker

>>738844457
yeah but he put on a good show

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>>738843898

>http://www.cbsnews.com/news/airbnb-host-5000-fine-canceling-over-race/

So according to Trumpanzees foreigners can not rely on US law within the US?

>>738844141

this

Republicans knows this and understand

they just mentally block it when it comes to their glorious leader

>>738843193
>>738843538
>>738844141

But in the email did she ask for anything in return? Any favors in exchange for the information?

>>738844397

>>738844397

>Foreign leaders shake hands and smile for cameras. Crazy right?

Weird. Because every other foreign leader had an issue doing that very thing with Donnie. Except the barbarians. They fucking broke out in dance over Donnie.

>>738844457
sure kid

No laws were broken.
If 100% true so what?
The Donald is never, ever going to resign or get impeached.
If he is forced out, you get a justified civil insurrection.
Guess which side wins that?
Example: all the deplorables decide to stop driving trucks full of food into the cities for a month.

>>738844514
sad

Glorious leader HA half the republican party DENOUNCED him when he was running for president

>>738842294
Question for non-american: In your country are media and politics like this?

Is your president/prime minister in a perpetual war with your judiciary and with their own political party?

Does your majority party do absolutely nothing and complain all the time despite wielding the power of the purse and over a thousand more representative seats than the minority?

Does your media print editorials or do they just editorialize everything and print "bombshells" like tabloids?

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>>738844011
What "gift"? How did the help the election? Because if Seth Rich (not Russian BTW) the entire WORLD discovered just how evil the paedophile globalists are. Obummer was just a puppet for Hildamort.

ITT,
still mad about the election huh kid.

>>738844492

Work in a hotel.

This happens often enough, but only with American blacks, mainland Chinese and other groups.

You just deny service, right to admission whatever, but don't give a fucking reason. You don't tell them they are being kicked out for being fat, loud, black dykes.

>>738844635
sad

>>738844539

How is that relevant?

>>738844541
wow cool argument. A country reliant on US demand for oil and the dollar's stability being friendly to the current US leader?

That's nuts again.

That definitely makes it okay for foreign countries to fund Democrat campaigns.

>>738844648

no, not in my country. that's why I come to these threads; it blows my mind that the USA considers themselves a first world country. I assume a lot of other non-americans come here too.

>>738844446
No it hasn't "dog." You likely weren't even out of grade school when obamacare was signed. East state has their own rules, yes, and when companies were in compliance with those state rules they were allowed to sell within that state seeing as the regulations weren't all that different from state to state and complying wasn't difficult.

The guy created actual monopolies that rivaled Microsoft's shit in the 90s and I know because my healthcare plan was HQ'd in NYC while I was living in Rhode Island.

You shouldn't comment on things that you're likely not even old enough to pay for on your own "dog" it just makes you look fucking stupid honestly.

>>738844750

so what is worse in your opinion? funding or hacking?

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>>738844142
Hi CTR, nice to have you back. There's NOTHING in the emails at all. Your entire shit employers are about to go down so start updating your resume.

>>738844471
Great rebuttal shill I'm sure you're foaming at the mouth now that you've got no real way to refute objective information like every other liberal crackpot

>>738844856
Sweet meme.

>>738843321
>you do understand that you don't have to pay the fine for not having health coverage if you make less than 35k a year.
Confirmed for bullshit, I had to pay the fine.

>>738844820

ok....see this is getting weird. it has never competed across state lines. never. sure, the company you bought from was located elsewhere, but the policy they sold you was a Rhode Island policy. their policy in the state next door? not available to you. their policies in NYC? not available to you.

>regulations weren't all that different from state to state

dude......you have to be trolling. there is no way you buy your own insurance. I'm pretty sure you got kicked off your parents plan and are just repeating what you dumbass father tells you.

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>>738844492
(You) here. Logic fallacy: False equivalence.

You lost the debate.

I still think that the "Obama care" bill was a step in the right direction don't get me wrong it needs some definite tweeking ,and the monopolies created need to be abolished, and newer insurance groups should be brought in to drive down the cost . I don't believe it should be fully scrapped the base was OK its the rest that needs work .

>>738844856

see

>>738843791

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>>738844856

The is no right to equality in injustice, dipshit.

>>738845025
So your whole post can be summed up in the form of a 5 year old plugging their ears with their fingers and just saying "nuh uh, dog."

You've got a lot of reading to do to catch up fuck-o but good job in getting me to respond.

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>>738842467
I love these dipshits that double down on the "hurr all the Trumps are retarded durr" rhetoric. It's like they completely miss the fact that their entire family has been outplayed, outdone, and outsmarted by the rich, successful, and now presidential "retarded" Trumps for three generations now.

>>738845077
yawn

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>>738844904
(You) here. Not foaming at all. Trump has exceeded our wildest expectations. I can't wait to see what happens when the battle station becomes fully operational.

BING, BING, BONG FUCKERS!

>>738844418
The point was even if you attempt a crime, but don't succeed, it's still illegal. So because Trump Jr. went to the Russians (even if he didn't get much useful information) it's still a huge problem.

>>738845173
cry me a river kid.

>>738845273

>all rich people are smart

Ok. Well go with that under a Trump administration.

Guess we already were.

>>738844132
You're just parroting Trump's delusions.
No factual information to support any of it.

>>738845336
the sound of backpeddling.
so you're part of the investigation?
no?
you must be some crybaby on the internet then.

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>>738845351

>cry me a river kid.

You're the crying "but Hillary". I don't care if the got away. I hope they fry Jr. though.

>>738845345
the problem is you keep replying.

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>>738845173
(You) here. Um... Donny Jr may have lied about his intent but he's not in office. Go ahead, try and impeach someone not in public office.

>>738845443
sad. she was there.
you can't deny it.

>>738844765
I don't understand it myself. So many people in this country are hellbent on destroying other people for their beliefs, controlling what other people do and think, and otherwise fighting to get their own way even if they have to walk over other people that being a rational human being almost escapes them.

Maybe it's a cultural thing; people not being raised to respect other people and not to think critically. Maybe people aren't getting the skills they should get growing up, and revert to petulance when they don't get their way.

I hope they fry them both

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>>738845443
But he was born rich. And he's the president. And there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it because autistic screeching fixes nothing.

>>738845202

ok, so I actually starting doing some research because what you were saying was crazy. and I think I managed to figure out your issue.

Rhode island had a law in place back in 2008 that let them do the insurance thing across state lines. them and 4 other states. almost all other states didn't allow it. after healthcare reform, the federal government said that states had to pass laws to allow it, otherwise it would be considered a no-go. Rhode Island voted on the issue in 2015 and it failed. The people of your state voted it down.

So its a matter of your state leadership, not the federal law. I am from a state that never allowed it, just like most states. I am sorry that shit sucks for you, but that is your states fault not Obamacare. They allowed you to make a law, and you voted it down.

>>738845499

He went with Trump's campaign manager and one of his advisors (Kushner).

>>738845532
sad

>>738845615
so?

>>738841523
He consulted kushner and manafort.

Unfortunately they weren't much brighter

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>>738845413
Even if you're pretending not to be CTR (You) have the burden of proof, not the defendant.

Hildamort: treasonous witch tried to sell sovereignty for cash/favor

Kink KEK: Grabs pussy and Tweets mean things.

TOTALLY THE SAME

aww, let it out. let the tears flow

Not sad they are both elitist who care only for the well being of the companies and countries that keep them elitist.

>>738845676
So kushner is part of he administration currently, and all three were members of the campaign. So how does the "Donny isn't in office rn" argument matter?

>>738845743
maybe that's where the pizzagate kiddies went.
they're CTR now.

>>738845798
yawn

>>738845743
So sad that trump's defenders still whine about Hillary since they can't defend the president

>>738845676

It's not just some unelected person.

It's the people who worked to get Donnie elected and then worked in his administration.

He can say he didnt know. But aside from no one believing it already, he looks like he didn't even have control of his campaign and closest people. Which from what we know about Donnie, just ain't true.

>>738845839
Great argument, about what I expected

>>738845202

also:

ACA (Obamacare) Section 1333

"...permits states to form health care choice inter-state compacts to allow insurers to sell policies in any state participating in the compact. Two or more states may enter into compacts under which one or more insurance plans may be offered in the such states, subject to the laws and regulations of the state in which it was written."

please stop getting your information from Alex Jones. So far, he is the only person saying the shit you have been saying so I'm pretty sure you are just parroting him.

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>>738845424
Backpedaling on what? Trump team is WINNING BIGLY. What's to backpedal on? Full steam ahead!

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>>738845459

>>738844662
>Alex jones said so
>mars has child prostitution
>sandy hook false flag
>liberals are satanists
Muh 1776 will commence again.

>>738845872

Do you really think that was just a six month sting?

That reform over opioids started only this year?

>>738845862
Pretty sad if he didn't know about a meeting between a Russian lawyer and his 1) son in law 2) first born 3) campaign advisor. And completely unbelievable that those three find out the Russian government is working to help the Trimp campaign and DONT TELL DONALD

>>738844820
You have no idea what you're talking about. And to think your age entitles you to some advanced knowledge, that no one else younger than you can achieve, is extremely flawed.

>>738845915
Don't forget jade helm

>>738846017

Exactly.

>>738844820
BCBS had a monopoly in my state WAY before Obamacare.

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>>738845855
Hi CTR, (You) here. Um... Because they aren't going away. The pedophile globalists, which Hildamort is a ringleader, still control 85% of Congress. They're all cancer and must be chemo'd.

So, we're NOT STOPPING until they're all gone. Sorry, you're just going to have to find other employment.

This is the tip of the iceberg

>>738844820

Microsoft software ran almost every computer then.

They absorbed EVERY startup immediately.

Please, there is no comparison.

>>738846114
The tinfoil hat is cutting off circulation.

>>738841906
>Ignorance or arrogance
Ignorance AND arrogance explains everything any Trump does

>>738846049
Actually never learned about that....thanks desu
Honestly during the 2016 election it was funny to watch infowars, but now it seems like their on the government payroll....literally they use Fox News talking points while using (conservative sites) as credible sources-not saying they couldn't be though.

>>738846128

This.


What worries watchdogs is the attitude seen when taking the meeting. So blasse.

It's a rule: whenever you catch someone doing something, you must assume you didn't happen on their first and only time. The willingness and brazen attitude, the information out of them that comes at an eyedrop pace suggest this isn't the only instance ethics were ignored.

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>>738846082
> WTF?
TRUE WATCHES TO $ 0?

>>738845915
Alex Jones has also in full seriousness claimed, that Obama and Clinton are demons or at best merely possessed by demons.
How people can still listen to that weirdo and agree him is beyond me.

>>738845866
you see an argument?
all I see is butthurt children.
still mad about that election huh kid.
sure you don't have any rape memes to post.
like your friends do?

>>738845896
sorry kid not your generation.

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>>738841361
Because fake news.

>>738846351
Say cuck.

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>>738845969
Do you think any prosecution on Medicaid scammers would happen under the globalist "no borders" regime? Every dollar spent is 2 borrowed from the Fed central bank.

Look at all the global paedophile rings busted now too (all of a sudden)

They already knew about the Medicare fraud and the pedophiles but weren't going to do anything to support the globalist agenda ( one big 3rd world shithole to lord over).

Just like Comey indicted Hildamort and Lynch... But no charges could be filed. Until now.

The tide has turned and prosecutions will happen.
>>738845969

The worst part of all of this is that 4chan could be fucking hilarious in this whole situation by literally bringing down the presidency, but it is so cucked by Russia and Trump that it can't even fathom doing something funny. 4chan went from being an internet menace to the literal front-line defense of the federal government. sad.

>>738846132
Yet they'll get tax subsidies while manufacturing everything abroad, even the h1b visas are all tech companies.

>I just hate the poo in the loos trumps hired: the un ambassador and the FCC chair, both have creepy smiles, and both are probably AIPAC shills.

>>738846082
>>738846132

see

>>738845602
>>738845870

he already got BTFO so he probably isn't responding anymore. it is honestly incredible how little people know about whats actually going on, so they just invent conspiracy instead of doing a little reading. it only took me 5 minutes to access all the information about ACA and Rhodes Island.

If people like him spent more time holding their own governors and law makers accountable instead of blaming the federal government, the USA might actually start to get its shit together.

>>738846554
things ain't what they used to be.

>>738846321
Don't be salty, the trump's will do just fine in the private sector

>>738846604
weak man claims victory.
yours is a sad generation.

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>>738846149
CTR Admin here. These responses weren't what we asked for. Please see HR Monday AM for severance.

>>738846645
your post is so ironic

>>738846664
The sad things are you faggots literally believe the CTR bogeymen are lurking in 4chan

>>738842766
That only makes you more pathetic

>>738846655

>weak man claims victory.
>yours is a sad generation.

Why do you assume that generational thing?

I don't think that very same thought of baby boomers because of Trump.

>>738846761
no need to assume

>>738846305
At least when he lost custody a few months back, he showed his audience, it's all an act.
I believed his shit for a couple weeks, just because it's funny as fuck...but his audience has the critical thinking of nu-pol.
His listeners are definitely the stereotypical attention seeking rubes in middle America, the kind of people that see a news crew live, and tries to get in the frame.

>>738846554
Somebody thinks they're special.

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>>738846657

>>738846792

So you ARE talking about baby boomers like Trump and Sheen?

Is Charlie Sheen a baby boomer, though?

Anyways, braggarts who fucked up the world, all of them, eh anon?

>>738846813
>the kind of people that see a news crew live, and tries to get in the frame.
WHO ALL SEEN THE LEPRECHAUN SAY YEAH

YEAAAAHHHHHH

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>>738846726
When a response is devoid of argument or an intelligent response one can only assume it's a paid still (see: Twitter)

Also CTR is real but they're mainly on /pol/ to try to influence the narrative.

In any regard: YOU LOSE THE DEBATE

>>738846905
Black people love attention seeking, that's a fact.
Although his YouTube channel comments circlejerk trumps "success" so hard, you'd think they really love confirmation bias about anything-like false flags.

>>738846813
I agree with you, that Alex Jones is funny af. He actually has a lot of charisma and is quite the showman.
He just delivers a cringeworthy amount of bullshit on a daily level, and somehow even the most obviously wrong statements are somehow believed by very gullible people.

>>738843321
My sister makes under 15000 a year and has to pay a fine. What are you talking about, idiot? Plus everyone who has actual insurance experienced rate and deductible increases because of it, which was predicted by anyone who doesn't suck off the government tit.

>>738847006
Uh huh

>>738847140

You think Donnie is part black then?

>>738841361
because he's a dumbasss

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>>738847006
You think CTR/shareblue go on 4chan to change the minds of people probably not old enough to vote to begin with....obviously you'll never run a company or any operation of bulk data collection.
Trolling on nu-pol is walking into the lions den of virgins, no one, even dumb democrat donors would waste the energy there.

>>738846901
it seems you need to fill in the blanks in your mind.
it is impossible to have a conversation with someone in your mental state.

>>738847297
sad

>>738847388

Hey, but anon, fuck braggarts, amirite?

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>>738843750
>cheating

>>738844011
>gives a gift
>implying he was given anything

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>>738847297
I don't have the meme that proves it but there's two or three that make it look true
>multiple kids
>welfare queen
>shiny objects
>multiple wives

>>738841906
According to his dad "anybody would do it" so I'm guessing that's where he got the advice from.

The thing with the trumps is they think they are smarter than everyone else.
Take a look at Trump, and how when he learns something, he announces it as if it's something no one else could possibly know.
>Who knew health care could be so hard!
He literally can't comprehend how someone could know something, when he only just learned it.

>>738842294
It's illegal to get anything of value from a foreign government during an election.

The information in this case being the thing of value.

>>738847485
>implying he was given anything
Doesn't matter. He turned up under the impression that he was going to be given something of value to help in the election.

>>738845413
>local newspaper article from affected region
>No factual information to support any of it.

>>738847566
sad

>>738847156
Yeah I even watched the joe rogan/911 episode; he's funny but cringe af. Especially now post election when he's defending ANYTHING trump does because if he doesn't he's liberal scum.
>gullible audience
>quick transitions from topic to topic like it's click bait/Breitbart tier news reports
>meme wars
>defends Israel
It's definitely a glimpse into the future, and demise of the GOP.

>>738847566

He said most people.

And it's true. Most people aren't running a presidential campaign.

>>738843971
>one Russian made vague and ambiguous references to having "dirt"
Yes, so vague when they explicitly state they have info which is part of the russian GOVERNMENTS efforts to help trump win.

>>738844718
Because then how else is it collusion lmao.

I mean, if someone has information on someone else that they want to share, but they're not saying "do this favorable thing for me once i give it to you" then how is that a crime ?

>>738842294
Campaign finance laws.

>>738847754
yawn. just like trump wasn't going to win.
how is your president these days.
still fighting for you?

No crime was committed. It wasn't illegal for him to be in that meeting.

>>738847762

Not at all.

She does not have to ask for anything.

He only has to take her offer. That's influence.

>>738847797
See below or literally google it

>>738847831
>No crime was committed. It wasn't illegal for him to be in that meeting.
That remains to be determined.

>>738847797

She would be gaining influence.

In the future, the admin would be beholden, in debt due to that offer taken.

>>738842294
All the MSNBC viewers replying to this as if their opinion about this matter is their own and wasn't injected into them by MSNBC like stuffing into a turkey on Thanksgiving.

>>738841361
>Why?

Jew media in a feeding frenzy.

>>738845345
>Trump Jr. went to the Russians
>not the other way around

kek

>>738847831
>It wasn't illegal for him to be in that meetin
Which is why he lied about it, only coming clean each time his latest lie was called out.

>>738847953

He went.

They just called for him, and he went.

God that sounds easy. Like calling a dog.

>>738847831
Campaign finance laws, (unenforced) Logan Act, possible obstruction in the coverup, potentially computer fraud and abuse act

Just got to see how deep the iceberg goes first. Paging Robert mueller.

>>738847514

This is the insane part. He's not even their guy. He surrounded himself with bankers, ramped up immigration and filled the swamp even higher. Literally the only reason he still has support is spite, while he and his people rob the country blind

The wall isn't gonna happen, the coal jobs are not coming back, american companies are still shipping jobs overseas, there is no infrastructure plan. But at least he's not hillary, right?

At this point I fully expect him to support radical gun control (he has in the past) and his supporters gladly lining up for confiscation. They love him like a 5 year old loves mommy.

>>738844333
Doesn't mean a _crime_ had been attempted. Even if the Russian lawyer had anything worthwhile, it's not automatically a crime to do anything about it.

You need more elements, that are absent here, to make that argument worthwhile.

>>738848026
sure kid

>>738848065
;^)

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>>738847815
Tfw I voted for trump....just not on nu-pol because I already lost my virginity and hate the whole kek/kekistan faggotry
I also hate milo, cernolisp, but I enjoyed Hyde and his show.

>>738844141
>>738844514
What makes you think that thought process is relevant? That'd imply that simply receiving (or attempting to receive) information from a foreign source is illegal.

Sketchy, but not illegal (without facts that are absent here).

>>738848039

Today he backtracked on the wall saying they just need about 700 miles of wall and that should do it since there are mountains and shit.

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Trump's Russian collusion = Obama's birth certificates
Trump isn't going to be removed from office. If you believe that he will, you're just as dumb as the birthers.

The rich use the press to divide us.

>>738848123
sure kid

>>738848057

Yes, it does.

It's a crime to try and rob a bank.

It's a crime to unsuccessfully attempt crimes, anon.

You don't get off with a 'loser defense'.

>>738848153
sad

>>738848026
>Campaign finance laws
>implying money was brought up
kek

>(unenforced) Logan Act
Elaborate

>possible obstruction in the coverup, potentially computer fraud and abuse act
kek

>>738848208
still the idiot

>>738848149

If he had received the info instead of an invitation by email it would be different.

But he was offered and then he went of his own accord, with campaign higher ups, to collect the info.

We can talk about alternate universes once we get to see them.

>>738847994
>They just called for him, and he went.
Being baited is not the same as asking the Russians for info

>>738848247
>implying money was brought up
Are you retarded? Look up campaign finance laws before you make syourself look even dumber.

>>738848208
>It's a crime to try and rob a bank.

But this isn't a bank robbery we're talking about here. Making the comparison all day doesn't bring about equivalent facts. You don't even know the elements to the relevant offenses.

>>738847485
>47% of Americans are based af

also, I think any elections should be considered failed whenever there's more than 50% of population that didn't vote

>>738848304

No, its not, that would be additional charges.

Do you also defend the stars of to catch a predator?

>but it wasn't even a 13 yr old boy, its some middle aged woman baiting him and he just went there and didn't fuck anyone.

>>738848308
>Are you retarded?
Clearly you are

>Look up campaign finance laws before you make syourself look even dumber.
no u

>>738848406

He set up a meeting to gain damaging information on a presidential candidate from a Russian.

His culpability is not determined by the success of the endeavor.

>>738848291
>If he had received the info instead of an invitation by email it would be different.
And?

>But he was offered and then he went of his own accord, with campaign higher ups, to collect the info.
Even if they had anything, simply going to look into it isn't illegal

>>738848455
>No, its not, that would be additional charges.
kek

>Do you also defend the stars of to catch a predator?
Do you even know what predisposition means?

>>738848406
can't believe you wasted your time on him.

>>738848543
>He set up a meeting to gain damaging information on a presidential candidate from a Russian.
So? Anyway, they had nothing.

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>>738848549

>look into it

That's right I forgot, he was "espionaging" her!

He didn't want anything!!

>>738848648
>That's right I forgot, he was "espionaging" her!

What's the point in doing that if others already have information?

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>>738848645

>He failed at colluding, so what's the big deal

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>>738847925

Keep telling yourself that

>>738843096
Awww, deflection. The first retort of someone losing a debate. Kek

>>738848724
>being this serious

>>738848174
/thread

>>738848549
>>But he was offered and then he went of his own accord, with campaign higher ups, to collect the info.
>Even if they had anything, simply going to look into it isn't illegal

What is though, is collusion. Do you agree?

>>738848961
>secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy

kek

>>738848961
>>738849019
>especially in order to cheat or deceive others

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tMXKQdc5ZM

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>>738848753
This is a veiled ad hominem. Your mocking his inability to argue well.

The fallacy fallacy is the error of concluding that just because a claim is poorly argued, that claim is incorrect.

>>738848304
>Being baited
He went fully expecting to get info from the russian government, explicitly said to be part of efforts to make trump president.
No one forced him, he chose to do it because he wanted the info.

>>738849125
>He went fully expecting to get info from the russian government
And got nothing

>>738848645
t. Donald Trump Jr

>>738849125
>He went fully expecting to get info from the russian government, explicitly said to be part of efforts to make trump president.

Not illegal. Had he gotten in exchange for assistance over that adoption thing, that would've been illegal. What if he walked out with the info without anything in return?

>>738849177
According to trump jr, who has lied about this meeting every step of the way. First they never met with Russians, then they met with Russians but talked about adoption, now they met with Russians and talked about bringing down Hillary (but they didn't have nuffin we swear!). Next:

>>738849309
>First they never met with Russians
When did he say that?

>then they met with Russians but talked about adoption, now they met with Russians and talked about bringing down Hillary

Not a contradiction.

It's hilarious to me that Trumpettes are fine with two jews (Kushner, Ivanka) running the country.

They got conned so hard and will never admit it. Running the country like a business, for sure, to make more gold for themselves.

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ITT: MSNBC has convinced a bunch of newfags that the espionage act is applicable to Trump Jr's actions even though we were not in a state of war with Russia when the incident in question occurred

>>738849398
>implying MSNBC is a legal authority

That's the sad part about this.

>>738849398
check out mister knows how the world actually works guy

>>738849353
>Not a contradiction.
Omitting key facts is still a lie, even if it isn't a contradiction. He attempted to mislead until the NYT had him cornered

>>738849398

You guys kill me. Intentionally acting like you're too dumb to understand the situation isn't an argument. Taking things of value from foreign governments during an election is very obviously illegal. That's campaign law. Only Drumpsters are saying espionage. Deflect, obfuscate, project.

>>738849525
>not answering the question
kek

>Omitting key facts is still a lie, even if it isn't a contradiction.
What did he omit?

>He attempted to mislead until the NYT had him cornered
>being this serious

>>738849620
You must be joking

>>738849588
>Taking things of value from foreign governments during an election is very obviously illegal
kek

>That's campaign law
[citation needed]

A lot of things are being overlooked here . First what is the connection of the attorney to the Kremlin? The answer is none ! Other than just being a lawyer . She was introduced by a tabloid journalist who said she had dirt on Clinton , they took the meeting and she said the Russians were backing Hillary! And then went on discussing her reason for meeting them which was to discuss adoption laws . And let's also point out that there is no evidence yet of russian hacking despite all the crazy claims . Crowd source the third party the dnc had check their servers has lied at least once . When they said they consulted British intelligence then British intelligence said that was not true. There are also reports that the emails were downloaded directly and stored on a flash drive . The 3 agencies that say there is evidence are basing that solely on the investigation by crowd strike . The whole thing is a nothing burger even cnn said so off camera .

>>738849670
What does it say about your argument that you can't answer what should be easy questions if you're right?

>>738849702
>they took the meeting and she said the Russians were backing Hillary
[citation needed]

>>738849712
That I'm not on trial and you have access to google. I'll spoon feed you, but not for free.

>>738849758
breitwars.fox

>>738849588
Like the millions Hillary took from Qatar, or the meetings with Ukraine?

>>738849815
>if Hillary did it then it must be fine!

>>738849769
It's not my duty to do your research. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

>>738849880
>It's not my duty to do your research.
That's fine, I don't need you to.

>>738849907
And yet you can't answer what should be easy questions.

Just admit it: You're wrong.