Is it gay when I am attracted to girls(male)?

Yes.

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Yes.

>>738735489
girls (male)?

girls that are trannies? gay

girls and your a male? nay

>>738735598
>>738735621
And what if they have a feminim penis?

>>738735489
Not if they're girls.

>>738735663
please refer to
>>738735649

>>738735663
Fuck you have a point

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>>738735489
The guy looking at the rug in OP's gif looks like the main protagonist of the feature film The Red Turtle, could it be that this gif was made by one of the guys that worked on The Red Turtle?

>>738735489
It completely depends on whether the person in question identifies as a woman or male, or sometimes neither
Either way you really shouldn't worry about your sexuality, cheer up :3

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Simple if it's a trap and looks like this
Pic related
Then it's not gay as you are attracted to the feminine features

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>>738735770
If the person you're talking about was born male, then yes you're gay.
If the person was born female but tried to transition and now looks like a dude then also yes you are gay

also, if you're attracted to the above mentioned while also being attracted to feminine girls then you're bi

>>738735774
But what if I like the feminine features but still want her dick in my boipussy?

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>>738735841
Dude then it's completely gay

>>738735916
And when she has very feminine features and I stick my dick in her boipussy?

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Attraction doesn't matter, in this case. OP is always a fag.

>>738735774
Tbh it really doesn't matter what it is
I don't think fapping to something determines your sexuality
It's what you'd want to do irl with a person

>>738735840
I'll try to explain, sex does not equal gender
Sex is biological like chromosome pairs and such
Gender is a human made thing, like math
In math you can say there is a thing larger than infinity even though it's not physically possible, because we lay out the rules of math because again, we made it
Same as gender, it doesn't exist beyond humans so why shouldn't we be able to modify it, they're just social behaviour and looks, that's quite easy to change
Not that it even matters what sexuality you are, there's nothing wrong with being different

>>738735992
Then it's not gay

>>738736011
>I'll try to explain, sex does not equal gender
>Sex is biological like chromosome pairs and such
>Gender is a human made thing, like math

get out tumblrina, and please get your ass beat irl when you try spouting this retardery to the wrong one

>>738735489
lol yea, what a fag

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>>738736011
>there is nothing wrong with being different

Not necessarily.

Also, I was talking about biological sex.

>Gender is a human made thing, like math.

If it's a made up thing why do you take it so seriously

>>738735770
nah if the person has a dick and you do too it's gay

>>738736011
>In math you can say there is a thing larger than infinity even though it's not physically possible

much like someone with a penis claiming they're a woman, they are wrong

>>738736011
I'm technically trans and even I never suscribed to this bs. BTW math is a universal language that governs pretty much every atomic interaction in the universe. It's not a made up 'thing'.

>>738736287
>Math
>Not bullshit
>1=0.999.....
LMFAO

>>738736059
Sigh, let me help you
>Definition of sex
>1.
>either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures

Definition of gender
>1.
>the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

Tell me your interpretation of this then

>>738736159
>If it's a made up thing why do you take it so seriously
What's your point
Should humans ignore mathematics and social culture as well because it's made by humans?

>>738736203
It goes into much more detail than that before a conclusion that inherently doesn't exactly even matter

>>738736287
You're thinking about physics
I meant numbers and such
Infinity is a man made concept related to math, things greater than infinity are impossible physically but not in mathematics because well, humans made the rules for them and allowed such a thing to exist

>>738736011
Check'd
Homo here.
I can watch straight porn and still get turned on and fap to it.
Fantasy and reality are defo different things therefore i agree with you.

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>>738735663

>>738735840
>if it looks female, it's gay
>if it looks male, it's gay
Dude, did you stop and think that maybe you're gay for obsessing over everything being gay?

I bet you're one of those losers that believe anal sex with women is gay too.

Only eternal virgins cling to traditional view of sexuality because they're insecure and would like to blame "le degenerate values" for their condition.

>>738736532
>It dosn`t matter what is gay and what isn`t
>You`re gay though
Topkek

>>738736391
>mental gymnastics

If you have to redefine how words are used in order to support your argument, you're wrong.

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>>738736391
>Should humans ignore mathematics and social culture as well because it's made by humans?

Gender and math are not the same

>Gender is a social construct
>Dressing as the opposite sex in order to fulfill a different gender role isn't

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>>738736532
If it's male biologically = gay
If it's female but looks male = gay

Anal sex with women isn't gay, being attracted to male features while you yourself are male makes you either bi or gay

>>738736607
It obviously matters to that Anon.

He's obsessing over gay things because he fears the reason he doesn't have a gf is because he's gay and girls can sense it.

>>738736746
I am attracted to myself, does that make me gay?

>>738736813
Nope, it makes you a narcisstic cunt!

>>738736813
Not sure...

What if I'm not attracted to guys whatsoever, but I love a girl putting a strapon in my ass?

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>>738736391
>math is made up
WEW
E
W

Math isn't made up, it's a universal language and truth. Every, EVERY society has some form of number system.
But not every society has made up bullshit genders.

>>738736746
>If it's male biologically = gay
>If it's female but looks male = gay
Please expand this to cover all possible cases.

Logically, it would be like this:
>If it's male biologically = gay
>If it's female but looks male = gay
>If it's female biologically = straight
>If it's male but looks female = straight
Would you agree? If looks matter more than biological sex in "female that looks male", then it should matter in "male that looks female" case.

>>738736975
You're attracted to female domination and probably have mommy issues then

>>738736985
Not the last one

>if it's male but looks female = straight

If you're aware it's a male and you're not immediately repulsed by the fact then you're probably bi or gay

>>738736983
>Math isn't made up, it's a universal language and truth.

actually, no. Math is just an abstraction. There are cultures who doesn't have math. There are different maths around. Learn before you take a stance.

>>738736391
To your point of physics, it's ruled and defined by math.

>thus you could say that gender is ruled and defined by whether your genetically male or female.

/thread

>>738737194
>there are different maths around

Yeah some people say uno instead of one

>>738737194
Not samefagging, but to add to this guys comment.
If math is universal, prove that 1+1=2 in mathematical terms. You can't. Someone wrote a book 60 pages long trying to prove 1+1=2, but even that book had flaws.

>>738735489
>Attracted to girls.
>male
There are no male girls you mentally unstable monkey.
You are a faggot.

>>738737194
If they know one banana and one banana means they have more than one banana, they have math

>>738737259
Are you acting like a moron, or are you really one? Ever heard about e.g. non-Euclidean geometries? Basic on your choice of axioms, you get different math systems.

>>738737355
no, that means they have a concept of quantization. Math is usually based on quantization, but it doesn't have to be (e.g. real numbers are uncountable from their definition - see Cantor's diagonal argument).

>>738737194
i'm a giant retard for even asking, are you talking like standard vs metrical shit.

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>>738737417
>different math systems

And what makes them differ from one another kek

>>738737148
So let's expand.

When you know:
>If you know it's male biologically (and looks male) = gay
>If you know it's female but looks male = gay
>If you know it's female biologically (and looks female) = straight
>If you know it's male but looks female = gay

When you don't know:
>If you don't know it's male biologically (and looks male) = gay
>If you don't know it's female but looks male = gay
>If you don't know it's female biologically (and looks female) = gay (it could be male looking like a female)
>If you don't know it's male but looks female = gay (it could be male looking like a female)

Would you agree? The only thing that makes it not gay is you knowing for sure she's female and she looks female.

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I'm not going to have the old exhausting circular argument about gender vs sex. I will say that no one in this thread on any side of the argument has nearly enough understanding of language, math, or physics to be making such confident statements about them as you all are.

>>738737618
And in comes the centrist

>>738737194
Are you 8?
All, ALL cultures understand if they have one rock, and they get another rock, they now have two rocks. I know math is hard for you, but c'mon now. Even dogs understand if you show them two treats and you only give them one, that means you have the other in your hand.
You're dumber than the average mud hut African of you think numbers aren't real.

>>738735489
The real question is:
1. Does it matter?
2. Do you care?

>>738737533
choice of axioms.

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/2175034/choice-of-axioms

>>738737509

no. see above.

If you are attracted to females you are not gay. Which is OK.

If you are attracted to males, you are gay. Which is OK.

If you are attracted to mentally ill males trying to look like females by means of clothing, makeup, injections, and mutilation of their bodies, you are not straight, but a specific breed of degenerate homosexual. This is not OK, and everybody involved needs therapy.

>>738736684
>Gender is a social construct
I'm fucking stuck on this now thanks /b/ro

>>738735489
>girls
>(male)
What?

>>738737582
Yes, except

If you're not aware it's a male but it looks female then you're probably not gay

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>>738735489
If you're a guy and you're attracted to another guy dressed up as a girl you're gay.

>>738737659
no. not all cultures. You are both inane and retarded.

https://www.amazon.com/Anthropology-Numbers-Cambridge-Studies-Cultural/dp/0521438071

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/brazil-s-piraha-tribe-living-without-numbers-or-time-a-414291.html

etc

>>738737618
sadly, you're almost right. still, it's kind of fun to see how much confidence can be stored in complete idiot's brain.

>>738736985
You're poisoning the under educated.

>>738737483
Math is our way of seeing the world and interacting with it in an abstract way that also has real defined boundaries. It's what we use to rationalize an otherwise irrational reality. Think about it, we see one thing when we look at water, but in reality it is two separate things come together to form something else. That's irrational. Quantifying it is outside of what math does, but you were right, something has to be quantified first before math really begins to work. But math isn't a construct of man per se, but what we've learned to use from the universe itself, incrementally small advances in understanding how the universe works. That's true no matter where you're at in the universe or what you call it, math or vermikle on another planet, the rules are the same.

>>738737657
No faggot. Hear what I'm saying. I'm not between you, searching for common ground. You are all assholes spouting propositions with no grounding in actually knowing what the fuck you are talking about.

*Exception to the late-arriving anons who are speaking with some understanding about the various possible constructions of math, i.e. Non-euclidian geometry, the inability of mathematical philosophers to explain how math works, etc. Another example is base 10 marhematics (the so called "universal language" you are all so convinced just exists in the natural world) vs the existence of mathematical systems with other bases (most notably base 12, although this is not the only other possible system). Anyway, carry on, I've already contributed more than I intended.

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>>738738140

>>738737043
Not at all. I don't particularly like to be dominated. I just like the sensation of my ass filling up with a dildo.

>>738738140
Only on /b/ can a thread go from, "am I gay for liking "x"". To what is math.

>>738738447
/b/ is a social construct existing on a spectrum.

>>738737483
>>738738124
Are you guys Carl Sagan?

>>738738124
Math is not universal, because there ain't a single "math". Again - math is a system defined by a choice of axioms. That's all that can be said with 100% confidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_mathematics

If you're saying "I know what math is", you're basically saying you know what math is better than matematicians, logicians and philosophers.

Frankly, I find it doubtful that is the case.

>>738738445
I guess that doesn't make you gay ass long as you don't like the sensation of a live pulsing dick filling up your ass. In that case you're just perverted

>>738737785
Ok, so:
>If you don't know it's female biologically (and looks female) = probably straight
But this is essentially the same thing:
>If you don't know it's male but looks female = probably straight

So if you thought you were attracted to a woman, but if it was ACTUALLY a biological male, you happen to be gay because you were in fact attracted to a guy (even without your knowledge)?

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The definition of 4chan
>pic related

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>>738735489
It's not gay as long as you suck the cum out of her asshole when you're done.

>>738738501
>social construct

pls stop saying that.

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Glad to see everything is in check in the "Gay Singularity" department.

>>738738604
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ANON

>If you don't know it's female biologically (and looks female) = probably straight

If someone looks female you naturally assume it's female therefore you think it's female and you're not gay

>If you don't know it's male but looks female = probably straight

If it looks female you're gonna assume it's female and you're not gay until you find out it's male and are still attracted to it

>So if you thought you were attracted to a woman, but if it was ACTUALLY a biological male, you happen to be gay because you were in fact attracted to a guy (even without your knowledge)?

If you're not aware it's a male you're not gay

>>738737194
>numbers work different in different cultures
>the sun revolves around the earth

>>738737618
what a brave neutral stance great contribution super insightful

>>738738560
No matter what rules you use, or where or when you conceive and then perceive what frame work you're gonna use, once you begin that, then the rules of how you work with it become more solid. Whether base 10 or base 12, or pairs, or using skip digits to base what you're trying to do the rules are the same. It doesn't matter what you use as reference to the conceptualized numbering system you use, the rules when you begin, are more solid. I think that then you can combine math systems to gain a deeper understanding of the universe. All I'm saying is that the rules for each system of math you use are set by natural laws. And like all laws they can be bent and broken in ways we can't begin to fathom yet.

>>738738642
He's right tho, that's the sad thing

>>738738124
>Think about it, we see one thing when we look at water, but in reality it is two separate things come together to form something else. That's irrational.

babby's first attempted deep thought

there is nothing irrational about molecules you simple fool

>>738738622
Hey anon, screen cap this post here of yours, that this post is referencing and post that cap, that is basically 4chan

>>738738802
Math is an abstraction. Physics ain't abstraction. Mathematics are based on arbitrary rules. Physics are based on observation.

If you think that numbers are universal, explain imaginary unit in universal terms.

... QED, your argument is invalid.

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>>738739067
Basically 4chan in a nutshell
>pic related

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>>738738786
>If it looks female you're gonna assume it's female and you're not gay until you find out it's male and are still attracted to it

>>738738883
no. The rules for mathematic system are set by axioms, not by natural laws. see >>738739141 ; you're mistaking mathematics with physics.

BTW, are you on drugs?

>>738739141
incorrect usage of QED, see me after class

>>738739197
Antboy, is this you?

>>738738970
Yeah there is. The whole concept water, it's two different atoms that under a relative normal atmospheric conditions are immaterial gaseous fluids coming together to make a more solid fluid. And while the science behind it is well understood, you're gonna sit and say it's rational? Maybe it is because we understand the why, but by its very nature it's an irrationality that shouldn't exist.

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>>738739262
What is drugs?

>>738739197
Thank you kind anon

>>738735992
>>738736022

still gay.
like... really gay.

>>738736391
holy shit dude how can you be this retarded

>>738739463
not understanding something != something is irrational

gas is not immaterial

water is not a concept

it's time to stop thinking you're smart

>>738738786
What if you were gay and slept with a post-op female-to-male tranny and you later realized she was a woman once, but you still liked her big cock, masculine jawline and manly build?
Can traps turn you straight?

>>738736011
Except math is based mostly on the real world, has practical use in literally every single job, and mathemtical tricks and laws are essentially "discovered," not made up.
"Gender," by your definition, is literally completely made up, based off of fantasy rather than reality, and has no practical use whatsoever.

>>738739892
Traps can't turn you straight, once you're gay it's over, there is no turning back. The only thing you can do is fight it, find a wife and have kids and do your best

>>738735742
fUCK OFF WEEB

>>738736391
>Infinity is a man made concept related to math, things greater than infinity are impossible physically but not in mathematics because well, humans made the rules for them and allowed such a thing to exist
Renormalisation relies on the fact you're wrong

>>738739999
The Red Turtle doesn't even look like an anime, it has a french vibe to it, like it was made by the french actually

>>738739262
Try this a different way then,

you observe two planetary objects interacting in space. You observe the effects of gravity on the pair to such a degree that you can see the bowing of the crust on each object, you can plot with great accuracy what the effect of each pass does to the planet's, how much does the crust move in three dimensions four if you have a stop watch. You use math to try and understand the why it moves the crust 31 feet upwards and a forward movement of of three inches per whatever amount of time you want to use with a rear downward angle of 28 degrees. Whatever axiom you use for your calculations, unless you switch the starting point of your math, the rules become fairly fixed in your use of that particular math. I'm trying to say, it doesn't matter which math model you use at the start of your calculations, once you begin using it, the rules that govern it are set, unless you switch to using a different model.

>>738739892
>Be me
>right now
>Do i look like i know what a jpeg is?
>>738738622.....

>>738735663
Fagget in denial once you engaged in any sex that involves a penis while you having a penis makes you a fag no matter how femine he is.

>>738735774
Wrong your gay srry if he has or had a penis your gay

>>738739652
Could you be any more condescending in your shit talking? Grab a hand full of some oxygen and feel it. Can you? How about hydrogen? Do you even know which definition of immaterial I was using? It's the one where you can't grasp something, you don't know it's there, unless.you know it's there in an abstract, irrational way. Wanna keep going?

>hurr durr, unless I think it's irrational, it's not irrational

The whole concept I was talking about is beyond your ken.

it's only gay if the balls touch

>>738739949
Wait, so:
For straight people:
>if you are straight but you like traps = actually gay
>if you are straight but you find out you've been liking a trap and you still like it = actually gay
>if you are straight but you find out you've been liking a trap and you don't like it anymore = straight

For gay people:
>if you are gay but you like traps = gay
>if you are gay but you find out you've been liking a trap and you still like it = still gay
>if you are gay but you find out you've been liking a trap and you don't like it anymore = gay

I see a lot of asymmetry in your views, Anon.
Most scenarios are gay and there are some complicated rules about becoming gay. You use different criteria in different cases just to prove people are gay. You should think this through.

Also I bet your rules don't work the same way for men and women.

>>738735489
Why label yourself. Explore! Be creative.

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>>738740969
>don't do the thing your ancestors did which is the reason you're alive right now

>>738740544
I feel like you're the kind of wannabe intellectual that believes in intelligent design because "cells are so complicated!"

>>738741091
No, but like I said, the whole.concept I was explaining is beyond you. Reality is not rational.

>>738741035
How does it feel being an Amish 16 year old kid exploring the free world?

>>738741473
My God if that person is Amish, and here, well, they're going to hell and gonna be kicked out of the tribe. Lel

>>738741473
all the best to you mate

>>738736340
kek