Space stuff.

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>>738377730

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>>738377771

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>>738377830

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Can some faggot that believe there's no life on any other planet, come with some arguments?

>my favorite space wallpaper

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>>738378371
nice...

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muh fuckin Messier 42

>>738378509

Squint. It's a vag

>>738379005

The original is fuckin huge

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>>738379057
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>>738379181
>chrome ran out of memory while loading this page
lol

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did you know that for every galaxy traps are still gay

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>>738379005

Slightly bigger

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>>738379416
There are planets where traps are the norm.

>>738379582
false. Traps are still gay.

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>>738379639
Not false. I'd even wager some of these trap-societies are space-faring.

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>>738377730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItnCGRsMjw

>>738379761
nasa apod?

Also: Sleepless Astrophysics and Cosmology Master Student here. Might be able to answer some questions if you have any, although I don't know shit about astronomy

>>738379923

What's your money on?

Betelgeuse or eta Carinae? Who goes first?

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Anybody have that webm of the black hole sizes comparisons? It was posted on a creepy thread awhile back but I didn't save it.

Posting this because it's the closest I have to space content

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>>738377730

> Space stuff

you got it

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>>738377730
There are actually 4 or 5 nearby stars in that photo- albeit 'nearby' is within100 thousand light years...

But you missed the most important part, which is that the photo represents a patch of sky smaller than a pin head held at arm's length.

>>738380044
Gotta go with Betelgeuse. God forbid Ford Prefect gets it easy once in a while.

>>738380697
speaking of which

How much damage would a meteor the size of the chrysler building do?

>>738379923

>>738378371
life on other planets? of course there is
animals, trees and an ecosystem? nope, not for millions of years

>>738381004
Depends heavily on impact velocity, shape and what it's made of. The shape and consistency will determine how much of the meteor "burns away" and is slowed down in the atmosphere.
But assuming a sphere should give a rough estimate. Wouldn't know what material to assume, and would need to look up some constants/measurements of typical atmosphere heights/compositions/pressures, material constants and typical meteor velocities to make an estimate.

>>738381377
most boring way to say i dont know ever
assume it has made it to earth and it is chrysler building sized made of typical meteorite stuff

>>738381377
Okay, uh..Iron core and a few thousand km/h?

Is that usual re entry speed? I don't know shit about shit

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I feel so small and insignificant

>>738381004
>>738381694
>>738381709

Ok, let's not overthink this and consider a hevily simplified case.
Neglecting the atmosphere,shape and material, the energy absorbed by the earth upon impact can be calculated with classical energy conservation, meaning that
E = 1/2 * M * v_0^2 - G M m_{earth} (1/r_0 1/r_earth )
where M = Meteorite Mass
G = Gravitational Constant
r_0 = some position of the meteorite before impact
v_0 = radial velocity of the meteor at r_0
r_earth = radius of the earth
m_earth = mass of the earth

>>738381970
shit, forgot a minus between the 1/r:
E = 1/2 * M * v_0^2 - G M m_{earth} (1/r_0 -1/r_earth )

>>738381970
oh ok, by my calculations it would absolutely wreck the planet, good stuff you made this really fun

>>738380976
More of this man please

>>738382249
gimme a sec to type it out, might really turn out fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFTaiWInZ44

space is the biggest thing in the world

We are so godamn insignificant.
Yet, muslims and christians still believe we have some special purpose im Gods "plan."

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You know NASA artificially (and artistically) colors these photos so they look dazzling, right?

NASA is basically DARPA's PR wing.

Fuck NASA and fuck you neck beard. Your ideology is based on lies because you have no intellectual self-defense.

>>738382249
So a quick research on Wikipedia tells me that we can estimate the mass of the chrysler building to be ~3 x 10^7 kg.
http://www.amsmeteors.org/ says mean meteor entry velocity should be ~4 x 10^4 m/s.
So assuming the meteor enters the atmosphere (which is 100 km above the earth surface) with that velocity, v_0 = 4 x 10^4 m/s with r_0 = 100km + r_{earth} = 6.5 x 10^6m, we get

E = 2.4 x 10^16 J [Joule]

Now wikipedia says a Tsar bomb releases 210,000 TerraJoule of energy, meaning 2.1 x 10^17 J,

So the impact would be roughly 8.5% of a Tsar bomb. Admittedly, this doesn't look thaaaaaaaaaaaat impressive.

But it gets better if you compare it with "Fat Boy", which released around 90 TJ energy.
Then we have an impact of ~267 Fat Boys.
See kids? Physics is fun.

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>>738383444
Better tighten your tin foil hat there.

>>738383596
Yeah fun. You sound like a great guy to sit and have a beer with

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i cant handle these threats because everytime i´m loosing myself in this, getting kinda depressed that there is so much around us, and i am stucked here.

>>738383837
don't worry, we'll all die soon enough.

>>738383802
Beer is always tastier when you ponder mass destruction.

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I posted this in earlier thread, 300+light year void in space.

>>738383978
True but its the constant equations that really add to the excitement

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posting obligatory pale blue dot.

>>738383887
thats not the point i mean, man, we´re not even able to see nearly everything that is here on earth, and in the water.
We only can look up, see things that are billions and billions kilometers away, imagine how it would be to fly next to pluto, or saturn.

>>738384093
That's a dust cloud.

>>738384100
pondering mass destruction is always tastier when you have a grasp of the mass to be destroyed.

What kind of life is there in the darkest regions of the universe?

>>738384225
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/11550868/Giant-mysterious-empty-hole-found-in-universe.html

>>738384093
That should be 300+ million light years

>>738384131
Fuck no we don't. Don't come here with that pussy-ass attitude. "We can only dream" my ass. We're gonna go up there and fuck shit up. The question is not if, it's when.

>>738384323
Still a dust cloud. Dumb journalists picking an unrelated picture.

>>738384313
>>738384323
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard_68

>>738377730
Get me some more of that shit this isn't enough to masturbate to.

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>>738384398
>>738384398
nah, its not "dreaming" (i hate this too when ppl say dreaming about space and shit), im trying to say its more like 99% of the ppl will never see the earth from the outstide, including us.

>>738384649
So= 90% of humans that ever lived thought the earth was flat. And the sun was a god. And the stars are just small glowing dots.
Count your blessings, son

>>738379181
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this thing loaded like i was on dialup.

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>>738384866
that's far back in history and i think it wasn't bad that they did think like this about it, they didn't know it better.
But now, because all of the science we know more things and we have (i have) more options to be sad about what i am going to miss.

>>738384532
It's called the bootes void

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Void_(astronomy)

>>738384649
When you think about the vast distances in space and the relatively simple space vessels we have, yeah I'd say it is dreaming.

>>738385109
for me its more like the imagination. Yes, our mind cant understand this size and length, maybe its a mix between the thoughts and the dreams about the space. trying to find the answer for the questions we have.

>>738385126
That's very beautiful.

>>738385102
Doesn't change the fact that the posted image shows Brnard 68.

You can even see some stars poking through.

Sheesh

>>738383444
Which lies exactly? That space exists and the earth is round?

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>>738385268
yeah, i think OPs pic is a piece out of this hubble picture, the original size is over 15mb

>>738385126
That's hubbles deep field view isn't it? A patch of sky the size of a dime held at arms length, so many galaxies.

>>738383444
wasted trips. they are colored by element e.g. oxygen, nitrogen

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>>738385442
yep, it is. the attempt to understand how many planets, stars are in this picture, gg.

>>738385306
It's not 100% completely void, it's just extremely sparsely peppered with around 60 or so galaxies.

>>738385556
Did you even visit the wiki page. The picture's right there.

>>738385637
When I google it, it keeps showing me that pic.

>>738385759
It's space journalism done by hacks.
Said nebula is 500 light years from us.

>>738385548
I've always wanted it blown up to 10'x8' and put it in my wall.

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>>738381836
>>738383071
>>738383887
"If people looked at the stars each night, I'd bet that they'd live considerably more different -- once you look into infinity, you get a good sense of how small things really are." Our sun. Our home planet, Earth. You. People often look at these elements of the universe, and somehow it makes them feel insignificant. I wish people would consider this life thing to be more valuable. More valuable than the time which limits its experience. We know so little of the universe, but one thing is certain - it is undeniably beautiful. Isn't the ability to just experience this more profound than the black hole at the center of our own galaxy? More profound than the largest galaxy in the universe? More profound than the cosmos itself? We are all beautiful arrangements of dust and gas, occupying space and time, making choices, falling in love, reading, writing, thinking, stealing, murdering, betraying. With beauty, something must be ugly. For without ugliness, the beautiful parts of life would become dull. Unenthralling. And that, in itself, is beautiful in its own way. A strange, but beautiful way. I would never try to do something ugly to this planet or anyone trying to experience life, but ugliness is necessary to make something beautiful, beautiful. We may need to remember that from time to time. To encourage us to not dwell on the little things. To truly admire ourselves, our insignificance, and our significance.

>>738384093
It's where the galactic federations head quarters is based but they have like a 'Prime Directive' like in Star Trek so won't interfere with the development of primitive life. This is why we see a void, its just a means of concealment to prevent exposing themselves to us.

>>738385874
Fuck sakes man I don't even care anymore thanks to you...fuck the picture then...

There is a void in space 300 million light years across...WOW cool eh? Now let's move on with life.

>>738386230
It's not "void" as in "empty", it's 20% less matter than elsewhere and no larger structures.

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>>738386141
nice text man

>>738386230
Sorry to disappoint.
It just bugs me there's so much bullshit floating around nowadays.

>>738385375
It only appears to be round because of the warping of space-time by gravity.

>>738386356
See--->>738385556
And maybe read threads...

>>738386575
The eye of god, or Ra

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>>738386540

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I like this one

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>>738386230
It's not just "cool eh". When you say get on with life, as if space has no meaning, you realize the hypocrisy right? You're probably getting on with a life of paying taxes, going to work, partying, having relationships, and so forth. But it's all superficial. Humans made this part of life up. Tryig to give themselves meaning, and everyone has clung to it. So much so, that they can no longer derive meaning from a star in the sky when they look up at night. At how humbling it is to even see something so mesmirizing. There are bigger things than what you think you have to get back to. Don't discount it because you think you have enough to worry about... we are pioneers to exploring what you think is "cool eh". Moving forward in discovering our true meaning. Enjoy it all, and all you can. Time is short, so make it count.

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>>738386904

>>738379373
HAL 9000 in space

>>738379718
Imagine a spaceship full of traps landing on earth

Any old fags remember late night space threads? Used to love those, they need to come back

>>738379373
Giant deflector dish

>>738384093
Whats in the middle though?

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Just remembered that I have something relatively new to share:

http://www.media.uzh.ch/en/Press-Releases/2017/Virtual-Kosmos.html

"Researchers from the University of Zurich have simulated the formation of our entire Universe with a large supercomputer. A gigantic catalogue of about 25 billion virtual galaxies has been generated from 2 trillion digital particles. This catalogue is being used to calibrate the experiments on board the Euclid satellite, that will be launched in 2020 with the objective of investigating the nature of dark matter and dark energy. "

>>738387161
Lets make one every night Anon

>>738387355
ya man if you make one tonight I will be on there getting drunk

>>738387411
Fuck it ill do it
Also checked

>>738387507
When is "night" for you? Its 3am here.

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What bugs me the most is knowing how much further we could be if we had more public interest and funding towards space exploration. If you look at what was being built over 50 years ago during that petty space race, I mean really look into it, it just makes you think where would we be now if we had some form of universal space programme in place. Even without that and just with NASA alone we could still be in such a better place when it comes to our aerospace technology.

>>738387551
Just about 9 pm here

>>738377730
how good are the books from that black guy with a moustache?

>>738387551
Man i just mean in an hour or two haha

>>738381249

>a trillion trillion stars in the galaxy
>most have a system of planets of some kind
>but none of them have animals, plants, or ecosystems
>I know this for a fact even though we can't closely observe the planets orbiting the closest star to us

Fuck off, you don't know shit.

>>738388159
>>a trillion trillion stars in the galaxy

I obviously meant universe.

>>738388159
ya I agree theres probably aliens all over the universe, some of them gotta be extremely advanced but if they haven't landed on earth yet is long distance space travel even possible?

>>738388454
>is long distance space travel even possible?

Not for us. Everything human science has come up with tells us that traveling at or faster than the speed of light is 100% impossible.

If you wanna get into wormholes, then it's theoretically possible, but then you'd have to deal with having a spacecraft capable of folding the actual fabric of time and space, like the Planet Express ship in Futurama.

>>738388159
Space, especially outside the solar system, is a very dangerous place. There are things happening galaxies away from Earth that affect us. A gamma ray burst can be detected at a range of hundreds of millions of light years. One, a couple of years ago, blinded high-orbit satellites. Imagine being within a few thousand light years of that thing. Cubic parsecs of space would be sterilized. A few of them and life's opportunities are limited.

>>738389131
>>speed of light is 100% impossible.
For now. Imagine a hundred years ago that instant communication was just a fantasy.

>>738387551
Night for me is 10pm
Its 8;11 here

>>738389131
We could do generational ships, or figure out cryogenics

What if plasma/fire is just a local speedup in time?

>>738389360
Thats really interesting actually, but I'm sure a fair amount of other planets ended up in a perfect place for what ever kind of life to evolve like earth is for us

>>738379416
Like legit, is that a butthole?

>>738383444
Checked

And also, it's in case there are any alien structures in the photos
They have to shoop them out before releasing the photo to the publicy

>>738389421

Yeah but we didn't have science and math telling us it couldn't be done. We just didn't have a way of doing it yet.

When it comes to FTL, we know that it would take a source of literally, not figuratively, but literally infinite energy just to match the speed of light.

You're right, there's no telling what we'll discover with time, but it is pretty discouraging to have proof that we're not getting out of the solar system that way.

>>738390167

It is.

>>738385490

The photos are black and white when they get them back, anon. They are then colored later.

>>738384225
ya if it was a real hole you would see galaxies behind it , thats some shit which blocks light , otherwise its 14 billion light years long

What happens inside a "black hole"? Do you think matter is being condensed in there?

>>738390436
It's arrogance to think that what we know now is the end all be all of knowledge. A true scientist isn't afraid to say he doesn't know.

>>738390818
You'll find Matthew McConaughey mumbling behind a bookshelf.

>>738391013
I love that movie man

>>738389818
Our planet, as far as we can tell, has been around for about 4.5 billion of the universe's 13.5 billion years. For 2 billion of those years, as far as we can tell, it was sterile.
Then, bacteria. Probably something else before that. Not viruses, they are basically parasites, so they need a host.
It wouldn't take much, in cosmic terms to reset Earth to barren again. We've been involved in a planetary colision once already, which rendered the Earth's surface molten. Let's see you survive that.
The axial tilt, necessary for seasons. The huge, and probably unique Moon, required for tides. A benign Sun. A radiation belt deflecting all the nasties from space. All these and more are unique to Earth. We also needed the right selection of amino acids in space around our planet as well as the right oxygen levels down here.
There are so many prerequisites it's a wonder we're even here.

>>738377730
Universe is so fucking big its so incredible.

>>738391013
Why didn't he just push out some books and crawl back home?

>>738384113
that my favourite picture ever

>>738391353
So many coincidental prerequisites, it's almost as if it was designed that way.

>>738390167
>>738390436
It looks more like the interior view of a sphincter. It is too fleshy and indented to be a butthole.

>>738391353
Ya I get that, but what if theres other, non carbon based life forms and there planet developed 'perfectly' for them like ours did?

>>738391571

There is no question in my mind that it is just a closeup of a butthole, anon.

>>738389131
>>738389421
>>738390436
Could be possible by creating a "wake" in gravity. If manipulating gravity is possible. Just ride it like a wave and it's no different than sitting still.

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>>738382390
I don't know why I made this.

>>738389131
What about Alcubierre Drives? It's theoretically possible and every once in a while someone finds out a flaw in the hteory, corrects it, and it's even easier to achieve afterwards.

There's so many possibilities, I refuse to die in this star system.

>>738392075
Yeah right. You'd just have to turn half of the universe into negative energy to run that drive.
Whatever negative energy is.

We're stuck on this rock for the time being.

>>738386540
fuckin kek

>>738383444
Lol you have never looked through a telescope have you?

>>738392075

That's pretty much like what the Futurama ship does. Distorting space and time, essentially moving it around you rather than moving through it.

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>>738385682
kek

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>>738386792
It's the same image, dumbass.

Space is big. Faggot

>>738384875
I've heard that this one is actually gone already, but the light we are seeing is thousands of years old.

>>738392287
https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00760456/document

>>738393304
mann thats crazy

>>738393304
Yeah that's one funny bit about space. I remember this one pop sci article about two galaxies lined up in the sky, not oen person was commenting on the fact that those galaxies were millions of light years apart from each other and from us, which means that to produce the effects visual effect of being "lined up" they would have had to be in a line at different points in time, literally millions of years of difference.

Also I love it when people talk about Eta Carinae dying soon. Eta Carinae died thousands of years ago, we just haven't seen it yet.

>>738380132
Interested in this

Anyone else like to think about space while getting drunk?

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>>738377730
If you want to feel tiny and insignificant, watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udAL48P5NJU

What if the bliss and release of death is heaven?

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hey guys, I wanna share some of the astro images I have taken. This is Norh America Nebula NGC7000.

>>738394270
you took this, how? Also looks really cool man

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M31 Andromeda Galaxy

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>>738394470
this is the exact setup I have used

>>738394617
Nice dude, ive been thinking about gettin a telescope with my new job. You an astronomer

>>738384093
likely a dust cloud that absorbs infrared / light

>>738394617
how much did it cost you? very nice

>>738394749
amateur astrophotographer. You should buy one

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Sky pepe reporting in

>>738394894
cool, got any crazy or cool space facts? Kinda drunk adn love reading about that stuff

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>>738394888
I have made some of the stuff DIY, so cheaper if you don't count my time. But still not so cheap. Just that scope is around 900USD.

M16 Eagle Nebula. With the Pillars of Creation at the center.

>>738395315
Thats sick dude, damn though that cost!

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>>738395179
Sorry not really. but there is a good youtube channel deepskyvideos for that.

M8 Lagoon and M20 Trifid Nebulas

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>>738395812
That's the entry level :) so it gets more expensive from there on. But visual astronomy is cheaper.

M101 Pinwheel Galaxy

>>738386792
I always get annoyed when people post this shit. There is absolutely nothing that cells and galaxies have in common structurally if you know the slightest fucking thing about either of them.

Wow, if you look at them a certain way they sort of look similar. So what?

Cells are a bag of water full or proteins with a nucleus full of nucleic acids. The outside is a lipid bilayer with proteins embedded in it. What does a galaxy have in common with that? Nothing.

A galaxy is millions of stars separated by light years of empty space. Some have planets some don't. Sprinkle in some some nebulae, black holes, pulsars, neutron stars etc.

>>738386141

Yep. Unfortunately most sheeple are dumb and/or just programmed into their dolt routines. Unless independently wealthy, most people are unfortunately thinking about there life, job, money, stress, other shit. When they do have a break, most would rather watch the sheeple tv, or other human dopamine-stimulating shit. Yeah. I try not to think of it all too much. Don't get me wrong, I'm fascinated by it all. But, depending upon what direction the human race takes, there will be questions that will never be answered. Things we will never see. Depressing, I know.

>>738396121
good to hear kek, still tho thx for the pics. Whats your thoughts on space travel and aliens?

>>738395315
900 seems very cheap for such a nice looking scope. I would guess that at several thousand by looking at it.

>>738396714
Universe is electric, forget everything you know.
https://m.youtube.com/user/ThunderboltsProject

>>738397232
>https://m.youtube.com/user/ThunderboltsProject
What a load of shit.

Fast forward into the first video and they are talking about a hollow Earth. With zero evidence of course. What a steaming pile of shit.

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>>738396907
There is life in others parts of the universe thats for sure, maybe even in our own solar system. But no green aliens visiting here with flying saucers.

And moon landings were fake as fuck.

M45 Pleiades Star Cluster

>>738396714
>they're made out of different things so the fact that they look similar is meaningless

you're missing the point. nobody's saying "they look the same so they're the same thing". it's the fact that systems on an incredibly small scale and systems on a massive scale can look so similar

>>738397480
Ya I get the aliens thing but never landing on the moon? I think we did (althoug im not sure) land on the moon but may not have seen everything there

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>>738397185
God bless china for that. Yes the japanese/european/american scopes cost that much.

M27 Dumbbell Nebula

anyone here listen to chris webby?

>>738378371
The silence is astonishing -- with so many stars and a universe that's more than 13 billion years old, why has SETI turned up nothing? We should be hearing signals among the stars, maybe see evidence of large-scale structures, and possibly even have a visit by von neuman probes. But there's nothing.

Which suggests that life (or at least technological life) is astonishing rare, or there's something out there killing life before it can spread.

>>738396714
Somebody never heard of fractals

>>738397881
cool to think about something killing life before it reaches here, what would you think it'd be or be like?

>>738397630
Its called cherry picking and coincidence.

I can show you literally thousands of things that on a small scale and large scale look absolutely nothing alike. The fact that you can look at cells selectively stained a certain way under a microscope, and look at astronomy through a certain wavelength filter, and they look somewhat similar means nothing.

It is a coincidence, nothing more.

>>738384113
If you didn't, I would have posted it

Have a safe trip, Voyager

>>738398000
Neither of them are representations of fractals. A fractal is something that looks the same no matter how far you zoom in or out. Neither of these things hold up to that.

Zoom in on the neurons and you see a single cell, proteins, DNA etc. The shapes totally change. Zoom out and you see whole tissues.

Zoom in on the galaxies and you see individual stars that aren't shaped like that at all etc.

Not fractals.

>>738397881

NDT (the cool nigger) has good theories on this.

>>738398243
You must be fun at parties

>>738386904
That picture is very definitely photoshopped.

>>738397684
there are lots of documentaries about that on youtube. while you are at it watch "loose change" also. that's about 9/11.

http://www.astrobin.com/users/KemalOz/

you can see the rest of images here.
I'm going to bed.

>>738385647
What's that? It doesn't quite look like the pencil nebula.

>>738398408
Stop using words you don't know the definition of then.

>>738398243
Sounds like someone's just here to argue, you're explanation of a fractal is flawed but oh well I'm not getting sucked into your guys little dick measuring contest.

>>738394475
Muh neighbor

>>738398031
Saberhagen's berserkers.

I.e. some kind of von neuman (self-replicating) machine that's spread throughout the entire universe, or a good chunk of it, and activates when it detects the signs of life, like picking up an I Love Lucy broadcast.

(The Earth started emitting star-level quantities of radio waves starting roughly in the 1950s, so we just woke everything in 50 light-year bubble.)

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Other direction, space looking down.

London, as seen from the ISS.

>>738391353

I've read some recent shit that indicates that the universe is much older. Then consequently the earth as well.

Are the dark regions of the universe dangerous?

>>738399084
damn bro thats awesome to think about, i imagine it as an organic/mechanic life form built by an older alien race long dead meant to take care of their over population issue

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>>738399285
And Tokyo.

>>738377730
space is a lie created by liberals to raise taxes for "space exploration" and really they are just subsidizing fake jobs like astronauts, seriously how do you become an astronaut? you gotta know some people thats how

>>738384093
There is actually a theory (one of the more far fetched ones) that this is from an advanced alien race building Dyson spheres around stars.

>>738399503
Saberhagen's version was a final solution, developed by one of two ancient races that were engaged in a genocidal war. Only the berserkers were too efficient, and wiped them both out.

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Earth from voyager 1

favorite image of all time

>>738399794
haha man thats dope, what if theres some kinda kthulu type creature ripping galaxy apart and now that i has sensed our radio broadcasts its coming???

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If we have to go to space, I say we look at Dr. Mann's planet. I think he's sending good data about it

>>738399790
I alluded to it earlier in the thread, but that's exactly the kind of thing we should be seeing if any other life exists in the universe. Because if alien life does exist, odd are that it's billions of years more advanced than us (because it took us roughly 4 billion years to develop since the solar system formed, and it's been 13+ billion years). And while we probably can't imagine how they do it, energy is energy, and they'd have to eventually start capturing the entire energy output of stars and then galaxies. (I.e. further up the Kardashev scale.)

But none of the existing black spots seem likely candidates.

>>738399933
I think a more modern take would start looking to the folded dimensions in string theory, the multi-universe and mega-universe theories around the big bang, dark matter, dark energy, and things like that. Really weird shit, some on scales that make the universe look insignificant.

>>738384093
It turned out there was just shit on the lens when they took that picture.

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>>738399971

>>738400048
I'm partial to the theory that any intelligent life went extinct hundreds of millions of years ago. We're the new kids, along with others on par or behind us in evolution.

>>738380132
>>738393924
It compared the sizes of the black holes to our sun, with the smallest being about the size of 3 I think, then it went on to stack the suns into cubes for the bigger ones, and the cubes into bigger cubes of like 100x100, and so on. It was really interesting and very "make you feel small in a way words can't begin to describe".

I heard the pillars do not exist anymore, is this true?

>>738400403
They are terrifying.

>>738377730
Come on! I can't be the only who fucking hates space and oceans!? That shit is boring, why is it so important to know if there is life on another planet? I truly hope we don't get to see if there is life somewhere else. God I hate it!

if these black holes are so big how big are the stars that created them?

>>738400708
cmon man....

>>738397881
Time is likely killing them. Our species will be another dead end, at this rate. Pessimisticly, but realistically.
But there fact we are here is evidence of life elsewhere. Think about it.

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Speaking of black holes, the movie Interstellar actually helped scientists figure out what they really look like. Though the movie did take some liberties, to make Gargantua look better on the screen.

This isn't a cap from the movie, it's from a scientific paper showing what Gargantuan would really look like, without the tweaks that were made for cinematic reasons..

>>738401185
Even in space, black things showing up ruins the surrounding area for everybody.

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>>738400824
About this big, or bigger.

>>738401185
one of may favorite movies man thank you!

>>738401174
That's the pessimistic view. But while we might ourselves, we're also right at the edge of being able to colonize other planets. Which would greatly diminish our chances of going extinct. If other technological civilizations follow a similar pattern, then we'd expect some of them to spread through space before they nuked or ecologically destroyed or whatevered their home planet.

And our existence is just evidence that life happened, once.

Can agree, my favorite movie

>>738396714
They all follow the same laws of mechanics, thermodynamics, physics, etc. Things are much more similar than you think.

that blue dwarf, how does its density compare to the two larger stars?

>>738400824
Look up the Chandrasekhar limit, anything larger will collapse into a neutron star or a black hole (or explode, as a nova).

Smaller black holes can be created, but require extraordinary circumstances. The Big Bang likely created micro black holes, but those have probably evaporated by now.

>>738397480
We definitely did go to the moon. Most of the footage of being on the moon is faked though.

>>738401185
>the movie Interstellar actually helped scientists figure out what they really look like

WTF are you talking about?

>>738401830
How in the fuck balls does a black hole evaporate?

>>738386904
Good post anon

>>738401475
Welcome, though I wasn't a big fan of the movie's plot myself.

you guys are full of shit. if there is life outside of earth then prove it. all of miss universe winners came from earth and no where else. 'mic drop'

>>738401739
Yeah, that much is obvious.

Doesn't change the fact that they have nothing in common in the way they are constructed other than being made of atoms.

Galaxies are 99.99% empty space. The same cannot be said about a cell at all.

>>738401978
It fills up with space dirt retard.

>>738398243
>not understanding what an actual fractal is or its significance

correct me if i am wrong but so are cells, being made of atoms and such

>>738401959
The special effects team used equations provided by Kip Thorne to model the appearance of Gargantua, which showed that black holes actually look nothing like the traditional depictiion

>>738401978
Hawking radiation

>>738399882
Saturn that close is fucking narly

>>738400597
Absolutely, but as unholy as they seem just by description, they're so fucking interesting it's ridiculous.

>>738402409
One of the few completely remembered dreams I have had was about a black hole.

>>738400597
If you're scared of black holes, don't look up quasars. They're basically huge ray guns that get their power from eating an entire galaxy.

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Locations of the Voyager and Pioneer spacecraft

>>738401495
If it can happen once it can happen twice or an infinite ect. That's the very reason multiverse theories are influential. But logically I suppose its not evidence of life elseware.
I don't want to get into world problems, but this species will die on this rock if we continue to profit from destruction, and education and advancement are on the back burner. Sure maybe a few entrepreneurs may touch mars, but without radical reformation that's it. The pinnacle is approaching.

>>738397881
I read a theory somewhere that stated that we humans in the span of the universes' existence have come along pretty early, which could be why we haven't heard anything yet. We're just simply happening first, and could well be the "aliens" that make first contact to another planet. There were several other theories but that's the one I gave the most thought to.

>hearing signals among the stars, maybe see evidence of large-scale structures, and possibly even have a visit by von neuman probes

As far as that goes, we have some pretty powerful equipment looking around out there, but space is fucking massive. Even with what we have, what we desire to see could just be beyond our reach, or just in one of infinite directions we haven't looked yet. We haven't seen shit compared to what there is to offer.

>>738402854
Wish I could find a more recent version

Whats your favorite galactic supercluster or GRB anomaly?
HCB Great Wall is my fav cause it's real biggo

>>738402131
You're right. Space is 99.9999% empty, and that includes us. Most of the mass you see and feel is believed to be kinetic energy and bindings between subatomic particles, but in reality the amount of true mass a human carries is no larger than a speck of dust.

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>>738402954
nah

Science is advancing faster now than ever before. It only takes a few years for the most advanced computer to be an obsolete piece of junk. The next gen iPhone will be a piece of shit in 10 years.

SpaceX is doing what people thought was impossible only a few years ago.

Biotech is unraveling the secrets of DNA.

I'm optimistic.

It sucks to know that I won't live to see humanity explore the galaxy

>>738403195
Right, most of an atom is hollow. The nucleus is tiny and the electrons are far from the nucleus. But that's not what I was getting at.

>>738403132
The first stars appeared only 0.1 billion years after the Big Bang, and the universe is more than 13 billions years old. While life might not have been possible until 2nd or 3rd generation stars appeared and made heavier elements like iron more common, nobody really knows the earliest point at which life could have emerged. But it was probably billions of years before now.

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>>738403362

>>738403282
I've always had a glass half empty mentality. Rip george carlin. Don't set yourself up for dissapointment and see you next draft.

>>738403282
I think we'll certainly hit a scientific plateau. Humans can only comprehend so much of the universe in a 3-dimensional frame of view. Unless we're able to go beyond our current dimensional boundaries, theories like quantum entanglement will probably never be truly figured out

I've looked this shit up a lot.. but I digress - why are Hubble photos able to capture gases or structures in such colorful form? Why can't our eyes picture these without manipulation, and how would it normally look without processing the images beforehand?

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Holy shit, I started this thread 5 hours ago, and it's still going on.

>>738403416
I know exactly what you're getting at. Most of space (the macroscopic) is empty while things on earth are solid and appear to have mass. But, scientifically speaking, we are just as empty as the universe. An atom is 99% empty space. This is actually a prime example of the microscopic reflecting the macroscopic. There could be a reason for this or it could be coincidental, but we probably won't know in our lifetimes.

>>738403881
I believe it has something to do with light pollution

>>738403947
Space is cool, I've seen a few space threads today and I'm glad there are some threads just to talk/argue about it

>>738403539
First person on the Moon: 1969
Last person on the Moon: 1972, 3 years later
No manned landings on anything: 1973-2017, 44 fucking years

>>738403881
The atmosphere and limitations of the eye.

>>738404269
I think we'll see people on Mars before we die

>>738404397
We should have seen people on Mars in the 1980s