bottled coke vs. canned coke You faggots will argue about anything

Glass bottle > Can > Plastic bottle

Can > anything

>>738332228
Glass bottle is the purest form of coca-cola. It's the original. Plasticfags can enjoy their leeched petroleum products and canfags can enjoy slicing themselves on the can opening.

>>738332302
This

End of thread

>>738332302
/thread

glass is best for everything it doesnt react and change taste

>>738332228
Coke is amerifat.

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>>738332348

>slicing themselves on the can opening

Are you special needs?

>>738332228
Glass bottle is overpriced and for hipster faggots.

Can > Plastic bottle

>>738332302
This.

It over faggots, go home

>>738332228
Glass bottle (hecho en México) > McDonald's fountain > can

>>738332444
You are either a kid or muslim, you have no idea how stupid that reads back

>>738332408
> plebian doesn't lick every drop of coca-cola out of the container

lol typical canfags.

>>738332444
> poorfag

lmao go fuck your aluminum fleshlight you mong.

>>738332302
first post is literally right /thread

>>738332524
The glass bottle is overpriced though.

>>738332408
Im envious of this mongoloid's balls.

i'm nsurpried no one has yet mentioned how they accidentally the whole bottle

>>738332563
Enjoy paying over the odds for a lot less.

>>738332228
Glass is the healthiest option. Plastic and aluminum are detrimental to one's health. Arguing has now ended; reason has entered.

>>738332228
bottle. this is not an argument, cans are for retards. op is retard

Lame

>>738332228
glass master race
then cans
then plastic

straws +1

>>738332665
>aluminium has harmful effects?
name one

biggest > smallest

>>738332228
Fountain coke >bottled coke> canned coke>glass coke.

Anyone who thinks Pepsi is better should be beheaded by Isis.

>>738332228
My nose does not judge.

It will even snort it if its been stored in someones ass

>>738332838
Swap bottled and glass and I agree with you.
On taste, not cost efficiency

>>738332838
Wrong faggot
Glass is way better than plastic. Fountain > glass > can > plastic

>>738332738
>alzheimer's

Aluminum is linked heavily to alzheimer's and the use of cans is pretty insane when it comes to containing anything that has acidic content. You will never see fruit in an aluminum can as a result but fruit juice doesn't matter? Insane really

I make my own coke, everything else is for peasants.

>>738332738
Aluminum is dangerous to the human body...even in small amounts. Those aluminum coke and pepsi and beer cans leech aluminum into your drinks. Your aluminum cooking pots leech aluminum into your food and so does aluminum foil that you wrap your food in.

Once ingested, aluminum accumulates in various tissues in the body, including the kidneys, brain, lungs, liver and thyroid. Aluminum competes with calcium for absorption and it can result in reduced skeletal mineralization. In infants this retards growth. It also interferes with phosphorous absorption, zinc and selenium.

Eating foods cooked in aluminum cookware can cause an inflamed colon. Consuming antacids that include the toxin aluminum hydroxide, distresses the digestive system to the point of disrupting healthy bowel function. Living cells make no good use of aluminum. Aluminum can make you very ill. Some people are allergic to aluminum and will develop a skin rash, also known as ,contact dermatitis. Just a few symptoms include: Malfunction of the blood-brain barrier, stomach & intestinal ulcers, gastrointestinal disease, Parkinson's Disease, skin problems, hyperactivity, mental retardation in infants, learning disorders in children, liver disease, headaches, heartburn, nausea, constipation, colicky pain, lack of energy, flatulence, etc.

>>738333075
http://mobile.dudasite.com/site/ehso2?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ehso.com%2Fehshome%2Falzheimers.htm&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F#2640
Do you drink water, anon?

>>738332620
> a lot less

You mean for the experience of drinking coca-cola the way it was intended to be drank?

I guess I'm getting a lot less leached chemicals. You've got me there.

>>738332302
> soda fountain > Glass bottle > Can > Plastic bottle ***

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>2017
>not owning a SodaStream

>>738333075
Fag

>Despite its widespread occurrence in the Earth crust, aluminium has no known function in biology. Aluminium salts are remarkably nontoxic, aluminium sulfate having an LD50 of 6207 mg/kg (oral, mouse), which corresponds to 500 grams for an 80 kg (180 lb) person.[10] The extremely low acute toxicity notwithstanding

>aluminium is not as toxic as heavy metals, but there is evidence of some toxicity if it is consumed in amounts greater than 40 mg/day per kg of body mass

I don't like coke but bottled Dr Pepper is better. I will only drink glass bottled coke

>>738332228
that shit is so bad for you.

>>738333002
Research in this area has been inconclusive; aluminium accumulation may be a consequence of the disease rather than a causal agent.[118][119]

>>738333075
If alluminum were toxic you should be much more concerned about the water you are drinking than the container it comes in.

Everybody knows that coke out of a soda fountain is the best way to consume it.

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>>738332228
>drinking the fizzing fatass at all

>>738332228
bottle for the fact you can put the lid back on. bigger bottles equals better value per glass.

cans are good for storage but 1 can is never enough for me

bottles on logic id say

>>738333203
Wow, I read your URL link and whomever typed that has not been reading a journal for the last five years. They aren't even attempting to dismiss actual studies, just a collection of loose references. I'll post an actual study for you as of recent origin.

>>738332228
>You faggots will argue about anything
no we won't

>>738333595
>inb4 propaganda website
Listen, point is that aluminum already exists in the water table. The amount that cans would leech off is negligable compared to that.

>>738333469
>Wikipededia
>not an actual recent study

KILL YOURSELF, NIGGER. You think Wikipedia is truth.

>>738333469
>40 mg/day

Easily done if you drink tea or work with aluminium. The link was so strong and effects so clear that the tea industry has to ditch old leafs on plants and not harvest them lost them a fortune. Tea leafs collect aluminuim and can get rid of it, many plants we consume do this.

It aint DDT or fukushima isotopes but its something people should be more aware of

>>738333744
>too stupid to scroll to the bottom of the page to see the sources for the information.

>>738332228
They're all terrible for your health and I hate it for tasting good.

Also mexican coke in a glass bottle.

>>738333744
Notice the citations? I'd link them but you wouldn't read them or have access to them

>>738333779
40mg/day per kg = ~3.2g for an 80kg person.
Learn to read

>>738333585
There's Zero too, educated european.

>>738333203
>>738333469
>>738333532
>>738333714
>>738333799
>>738333937
You guys are idiots. Proof that aluminum is detrimental to your health. I guess you want to appear like you know what you're talking about. Here are the studies proving you're fools:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19568732
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19436852
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993346
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12214020
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21473383
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23261179
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22575537
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12520766
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782734/

-Signed Biology Chemist

>>738332228
TL;DR? Glass bottle>can>plastic shit

Glass bottles are sealed air tight and don't let any carbonation seep out. No chemicals from the container can seep into the drink.

Cans are alright, they aren't airtight due to the perforation on the lid that allows it to open easier. Can will go flat, but you don't get any chemicals seeping into the drink besides the aluminium from the can which is seemingly harmless.

Plastic bottles are fucking dogshit. The bottle is not completely air tight, if you find a bottle that's a few years old, it will be flat. On top of that, there are tons of chemicals that seep from the bottle into the drink, especially if they've been left out in the sun at any point, which they likely have.

Regardless, all drinks that use high fructose corn syrup are fucking awful for you. Your body can't handle the ridiculous amounts of processed sugar you're dumping into it. On top of that, the shit is ridiculously addictive. If you drink more than 20oz a day, try quitting for a day or two and enjoy your withdraw symptoms.

>>738333002
>>738333075

references?

also harmful for harmful, so is water, do you even science?

>>738333937
Nice try...the old paywall defense. You've got nothing. Now go read those links posted here >>738334109 and shut up.

>>738334192
They're over here >>738334109. Water is not harmful. And yes, I'm a chemist of biology in my 5th year.

>>738332302
/thread
Go home faggots

>>738334109
Dude, 3g/day is fuckin heaps. No one's getting that much aluminium without supplementing it.

>>738332302
/thread

>>738334301
Of course they are. It accumulates in the body over time. The whole point of the implication.

>>738334065
If you are cutting and filing aluminium that can be done. You can make server Kg's of aluminuim dust with a lathe minutes.

Clearly a desk rider here.

>>738333287
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of a delicious ice cold Pepsi, which is the king of Colas.

>>738334310
You're an idiot. Read >>738334354. You all must be in high school.

/thread

>>738334109
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19568732
>It has been proposed that it is the functional impairment of mitochondria that may be responsible for the generation of ROS which may be implicated in the oxidative damage to mitochondrial proteins and loss of their functions. This in turn may explain the possible involvement of aluminium in the pathogenesis of neurodegenerative diseases such as AD in which the presence of aggregated forms of some of the proteins is well documented.
Got to love the soft conclusions
>has been proposed
>that may be responsible
>may explain

signed a biochemist

>>738332302
Beat me to it

>>738334354
>it accumulates in the body over time
>3g/day
>/day
you would need to actively consume 3 grams of aluminum every single day of ur life to feel negative effects is what you're telling me
jesus christ you're retarded

>>738334278
>water isn't harmful
Fucks sake.

>>738334160
I drink 500ml everyday, but I have no problems not drinking it for a day. My problem is that I always have my first smoke in the morning with good music, a glass of coke and the sunrise, to the point where it feels wierd to have my first smoke without coke or drink coke without music on... addiction is a bitch.

>>738332228
at my local shop.
canned coke-about 300 ml- 99p
Bottle of coke-2 litres- £1.20p

>>738332228
if the bottle is glass, then bottle. if not, then can.

>>738334579
yeah but asda does packs of 30 cans for 7 quid

>>738332228
Mexican coke.

>>738334109
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19436852
>It must however be kept in mind that the concentrations of the relevant metal species in neuronal tissue or liquids are often below the limit of detection of the currently available instrumentation. However, the large number of patients suffering from neurodegenerative diseases will hopefully stimulate advances in analytical methods and instrumentation both for metal-complexes and free ligands to improve diagnostic tools and therapeutic strategies in the near future.
Aka they can detect it and therefore cant make conclusions

>>738334579
Because the plastic variant has been tainted, so they sell the more pure form in other mediums like glass or can

>>738334278
well, then you suck. get another job

>>738334640
oh no wait it's a tenner. just checked, it was 7 quid a couple weeks ago but that deal ended

>>738334640
never really liked asda, its a green tesco with more chavvy staff in my opinion, last time i went i got yelled at by a landwhale with mascara.

>>738334419
You failed reading comprehension and also failed to read the other studies. What you've presented is an excerpt from a study showing possible indication for an influence. Again, continue with the other links. Though, if this is the only objection you have, by reading so much into a carefully worded research scientist's tentative description of an experiment, I doubt you'd be worthy of comprehension regarding any study.

I say you're grasping for straws and you can't admit what everyone today knows: aluminum is detrimental to the human body. Over time small quantities accumulate in the organs and present problems once we reach our elderly years.

Been fun chatting.

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>>738332228
Fountain drink Master race here . Preferred McDonald's for some reason they always get it right and for only a dollar

Then
Can>glass bottle > everything else (garbage)

>>738334375
oh so its only can happen if you work in the industry and not drinking from Al cans?

Non-scientist detected

>>738334278

https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/10901/aquagenic-urticaria

>>738334703
You sound like your smartphone is still on a family plan. Say hello to mother, Jacky boy.

>>738334758
>you failed reading comprehension and also failed to read the other studies
sorry, cant sift through 10 papers behind pay walls that i have to remote access through my works library in ten mins.

Key words from you post
>study showing possible

> I doubt you'd be worthy of comprehension regarding any study.
I have multiple degrees in chemistry and work as research biochemist....

>>738334786
retard alert

>>738334973
> Being right
>makes you retarded
Only on b

>>738334787
You serious? Leeching from a can will never compare with inhaling dust all day.

>>738334791
You're posting URLs you happen to find on the internet without any understanding. Urticaria is an allergic reaction. The causation is unknown.

From your link:

A substance dissolved in water enters the skin and triggers an immune response.

In this theory, the hives are not caused by water, specifically, but rather an allergen in the water.
An interaction between water and a substance found in or on the skin generates a toxic material, which leads to the development of hives.

...

>In this theory, the hives are not caused by water, specifically, but rather an allergen in the water.

Hominids, meaning us, need water for survival.

No results from your link proving water is harmful.

>>738335110
exactly my point

>>738334923
Then we are done here. Go read from someone who has.

>>738334923
>Key words from you post
>>study showing possible

You're desperate. I also convey my thoughts better than you do.

>>738332302
fpbp

>>738335159
this fag
>hur dur i know you cant read all this papers and most so far use soft conclusions using words like "maybe" "possibly" etc in their conclusions but they are right
kek, learn how to critically read sci papers

Depends on situation, I'd say glass on a nice sunny day, then a can, then plazzy bottle. Do enjoy a can of it tho

>>738335116
So you agree that the amount of aluminum dissolved in all drinking water is safe and not harmful, and also acknowledge that the amount of aluminum leeched from soda cans into water is negligable compared to this, yeah?

>>738334923
Science will always say possible or likely because science is a process. It was not know that cigarettes caused lung cancer until research was conducted. Before the research delivered a result, people had a right to be concerned as a relation by observation made people question their own actions. We have a great deal of research regarding the ill effects of aluminum over a time span, not a short term study. Short term studies would show none of the degenerative effects.

>>738332228
can > glass > plastic > fast food place dispenser syrup shit

Can you faggots really say can > plastic bottle?

Have you never once had the experience of trying to drink from a can just to realize it tasted like actual rust?

Because of that I can say that can is inferior.

>Glass bottle (no contest) >>> Plastic bottle > Can.

>>738335408
It didn't say likely.

Small glass bottle is best, its the intended serving and it tastes better

>>738335193
funny how you say desperate, when it called critical reading. Using soft language in conclusions does not mean its a firm conclusion. When you prove something, in a manuscript we dont say "this maybe happens" or "its a possibility" you say " we demonstrated"
or use other definitive words.

Youd know the difference if you ever wrote a publication yourself

>>738335320
Your link never mentioned aluminum. Here is your URL link: https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/10901/aquagenic-urticaria

No where does it mention aluminum.

You don't understand. Aluminum accumulates in the human body. Over time, in the LONG TERM, is posses a problem, in the SHORT TERM there are no noticeable effects unless you have a sensitivity to it. This is how most toxic substances behave.

>>738335408
using soft language in conclusions does not mean its a firm conclusion. When you prove something, in a manuscript we dont say "this maybe happens" or "its a possibility" you say " we demonstrated"
or use other definitive words.

Youd know the difference if you ever wrote a publication yourself

>>738335494
I'm not interested in petty semantics.

>>738335580
I'm not that guy that suggested that. I'm the original anon that just wanted you to drop your point about aluminum in cans being a problem because there is way more dissolved aluminum in drinking water, whether you have a sensitivity to it or not.

All coke is shit, but Mountain Dew is so much better from a can than anything else. The other shit is gross.

>>738335116
>You're posting URLs you happen to find on the internet without any understanding. Urticaria is an allergic reaction. The causation is unknown.

the name is water urticaria. it's cause is WATER you dense fuck

now you can twist concepts all you want, but the truth of the matter is that everything is a bit harmful a bit good.

now there is the concept of hormesis (in radiation for instance,,, yes, radiation may be good) or on digitalis - which you can use to kill or treat people

now, most of the surface of the earth is covered in aluminium. if it were really toxic do you think life as we know it would exist?

A tip: dont assume everyone you meet is an idiot.

>>738335570
You're desperate because you're focusing on trivial matters. The fact you can't realize the important parts of a study reveals how incapable you are to reasoning. Take a political science/philosophy class. You're a fucking joke.

>>738335621
>Argues semantics
>I'm not interested in semantics

>>738335655
I just responded. In the short term, you're fine unless you have a sensitivity. In the long term, an acute accumulation posses a risk should it express itself as a result from long term exposure. Small amounts in a short span of time is fine for most people.

>>738335580
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/165315-overview
educate thyselves

>glass bottle
Best taste, pure, best when cold (like every other form of packing but you know, it's better)
Must drink immediatly, can't drink over the course of a day.
My favourite
>plastic bottle
Not the best taste, but it comes in handy when you're on a trip or whatever. Least favourite
>can
Metal kinda ruins the taste a little bit but it's convenient when you want to drink cola but not a lot. You can rub it against your neck/forehead when hot.

Glass>can>plastic

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> not drinking any and every kind of beverage from bags

>>738335732
>You're desperate because you're focusing on trivial matters.
kek, you obviously never had to defend your research, a thesis, a publication, etc

>the fact you can't realize the important parts of a study reveals how incapable you are to reasoning.
Again you posted 10 papers, expect me to rad them all in detail and comment on ever experiment? Get real with your self, the time it would take to do that would out last this thread. I only have time to read the conclusions and discussion.

>Take a political science/philosophy class. You're a fucking joke.
Kek, have you ever critically read scientific papers and discussed with with any scientists? The fact that you cant tell soft conclusions from firm one is laughable. You are the joke here

>>738335793
I argued it because you brought it up. I felt inclined to expound upon your reply.

>>738335966
he made you reply, tho

>>738334109
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23261179
Journal title is "Medical Hypothesis"
kek

>>738335949
fucking canadian

>>738332228
And you post bait threads every day of your useless, meaningless, pathetic life.

>>738335991
I didn't, that was someone else. Just needed to point out your misleading statement. Your whole argument is shit. You are an educated retard.

>>738336054
thats how you have a discussion on /b/

>>738335938
> such small quantities that it is not a significant source of concern in persons with normal elimination capacity

>All metals can cause disease through excess

I agree

>No known physiologic need exists for aluminum; however, because of its atomic size and electric charge (0.051 nm and 3+, respectively), it is sometimes a competitive inhibitor of several essential elements with similar characteristics, such as magnesium (0.066 nm, 2+), calcium (0.099 nm, 2+), and iron (0.064 nm, 3+). At physiological pH, aluminum forms a barely soluble Al(OH)3 that can be easily dissolved by minor changes in the acidity of the media

Prove my argument

>if a significant aluminum load exceeds the body's excretory capacity, the excess is deposited in various tissues, including bone, brain, liver, heart, spleen, and muscle. This accumulation causes morbidity and mortality through various mechanisms

Correct

I should add

Well over 90% of aluminum that enters our GI tract is excreted. Except when it binds to fluoride, which allows it to be readily absorbed by the body. Absorbed aluminum has a half-life in the body of over 7 years, a good portion of it deposited in the brain.

Interestingly Rats with 0.5 ppm AlF3 (aluminum fluoride) in drinking water and rats with 2.1 ppm NaF (sodium fluoride) in drinking water had increased levels of aluminum in the brain.

>>738334485
500ml is less than 20oz bud.

I'm talking about people that drink more than one 20oz bottle a day, every day.

There are some people that literally only drink soda. They are physically addicted.

>>738336192
No, the difference is I read studies send me, such as as my reply here>>738336367. You're just an imbecile labeling others as "retard".

In this thread, aluminum supporters got their asses kicked.

>>738336367
>Interestingly Rats with 0.5 ppm AlF3 (aluminum fluoride) in drinking water and rats with 2.1 ppm NaF (sodium fluoride) in drinking water had increased levels of aluminum in the brain.
Funny how typically fluoride is used a 1ppm in water supplies

>>738336578
They didn't

>>738335949
why??

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>>738332228

You're all missing the point here.

It's an age, time thing. During early Coka~Cola consumption the 7 oz cans are the best. There's just enough to satisfy. Then progress on to the 12 oz can.

Then to 10 oz glass bottles, but these somehow do not provide the same satisfaction (even though almost everybody says that glass is the best).

After the glass most go to the plastic variants. 12 oz, 16 oz, 1 liter, 2 liter. Most find the the bigger plastic bottles satisfy better.

Pic related.

>>738336578
Not even close.

>>738332563

>licking every drop out of can.

Wtf? Special needs cinfirmed

>>738333370
Those soda fountains never get cleaned.

water

>>738337478
in a can, plastic or glass bottle?

>>738337887
where do they sell water in a can/glass

>>738338613
have you never been to a restaurant? all water there is in glass bottles.

>>738335580
Hope you don't use antipersperant deodorant.

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GLORIOUS ALUMINUM BOTTLE MASTER RACE

PERFECT PACKAGE POWNS POSERS.

>>738332228
Coke is fucking terrible
Dr. Pepper is the only acceptable cola

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ceramic jug master race reporting in

You can buy like 24 glass bottle of coke with 20$ in Mexico I go there like every other week or so