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Can /b/ give a good reason to hate black people, without being plain out racist?
>totally not a nigger
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>>738271843
Alright, thanks.
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>>738271962
Samefagging but thx for the lulz
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Lol, It wasn't a samefag. But thinking about it would be hilarous.
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>>738271737
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by and large they are obviously less intelligent, violence prone, and nuisances in general.
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>>738271737
Black men age 18-35 commit about 50% of the violent crime in the US despite being 4% of the population.

It's not racism to identify who in society is dangerous and antisocial.
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>>738271737

They smell bad
They steal
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Theres only so much you can blame on muh culture and socioeconomic status, also they have high testosterone levels which make them prone to violence
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>>738273784
>Without being plain racist

Looks like you can't read
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>>738273871
>Theres only so much you can blame on muh culture and socioeconomic status

Actually you can blame almost all of it on racism in America and socioeconomic status

> High testosterone levels which make them prone to violence

/fit/ here reporting in to confirm you are retarded.
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>>738273631
>Less intelligent violence and crime prone

This is a socioeconomic/racism issue. If your entire race came from slaves 150 years ago, and JUST got equal rights ~50 years ago, while still facing blatant racism from people in power, and you expect the entire race to bounce back in that time?

Yer fucked in the head m8
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>>738273744
Convicted of crime =/= committing more crime.

How are you so dense that you think "It's not racism to identify who is dangerous and antisocial", yet you don't understand this this thought process leads to a self fulfilling prophecy that leads to the statistics you justify your racism with in the first place?

Go eat a brick.
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>>738273554
You people need to get out more. I see red neck cunt do shit like this all the time.
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>>738271843
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>>738273744
It's a poverty issue. Look at appalachia. Same problems.
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>>738274045
Racism makes black people gun each other down in record numbers, commit assault, sell drugs, commit robberies, and enact random acts of violence against white people?

Fuck outta here.
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>>738271737
we dont hate black people, we just hate niggers, and everything that isn't a trap
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>>738274209
Lets go back further than 150 years. How dumb does an entire group need to be to get enslaved in the first place. They were caught with nets and treated like farm animals. That right there shows low intelligence.
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>>738274489
Appalachia has a similar crime rate to Chicago, or Detroit, or the Bronx? That's just... completely, ludicrously untrue.
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Being poor and fucking stupid makes you do that.

There are a disproportionate amount of poor and stupid black people in America because of it's history of, and continued racism.

Take a statistics, history, sociology class, and go outside. Then you'll understand how much of a fucking dolt you are.
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>>738274699
Meant for
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>>738274612
How dumb does an entire group need to be to get enslaved in the first place
>implying all empires are created equal
>implying they all have same natural resources to develop the same way Euro countries did
>ignoring all the variables in front of you, and picking race as the reason out of all them.
>Doesn't understand the difference between correlation and causation
>Thinks they aren't being racist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-4V3HR696k

Dumbass.
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Sometimes I think the main issue here in America is how blacks people got here. Most other demographics arrived to America because they were the most ambitious of their previous nationality (making big changes in hopes of a better life). Blacks are the only ones who are here because they were the worst of their previous nationality (ones literally sold and enslaved by their own people). So maybe we just have the worst genetic pool of blacks here.
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>>738274699
Look, your SOC 1020 class doesn't mean shit to me.

I think it's a major crisis, that the black community loses something like 2000 people a year from intraracial crime, and that tens of thousands more commit crimes that land them in prison with no hope of rehabilitation after they get that felony on their record.

It is certainly in part because of the history of racism and segregation. However, it is also no longer 1950. Black people can succeed if they choose to, but many choose not to. They choose to stay in the ghetto, they choose to be criminals, and their choices get them killed or get them locked in prison. That has to change and it's not whites that can change it. The black community has to change.
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>>738274955
Poor countries are poor because the population is low intelligence. Rich countries are rich because the population is higher intelligence.
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>>738275075
topkek. Go reread guns, germs, & steel then jerk off to it..
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>>738275135
>Implying the black community is a telepathic network of people connected across the US

It's a race, not a community you shitass.

The black community loses something like 2000 people a year from intraracial crime
>Be way more likely to be born into a poor family and shitty community because of the history of racism in my country
>Grow up in poor shitty community riddled with drugs and abuse because of said poverty
>Be expected to perform at the same level of middle class Jimmy who has never had to deal with drugs and abuse, and can thrive with better education
>Hey maybe we should solve the issue of disproportionate amounts of black being being born into this life because of history of racism
>"Niggers need to help themselves"

Get the fuck out of here.

>"Look, your SOC 1020 class doesn't mean shit to me."

Glad you throw facts and logic out the window to justify your racism

>"They choose to stay in the ghetto, they choose to be criminals"

Yeah, because this is the lifestlyle a sane person would choose. You're so fucking stupid.
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>>738274699

>stupid blacks
>white peoples' fault

got any other infallible arguments?
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>>738275283
What if money doesn't interest them level of intelligence and amount of currency don't correlate
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>>738275283
Good. You understand the first step.

What you don't understand is the corruption, poverty, and lack of wealth distribution creates a caste system where people are too fucking stupid and opressed to get out of their situation. There's a ton of correlating factors, and if you decide race is the cause, without exploring the rest of the factors, you're racist and stupid.
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>>738275671
That's not an argument, so I'm glad you're coming to terms with your racism.
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>>738271737
They hate you and they think it's perfectly fine to do so.

All the reason I need, but there are so many more.
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>>738275934
What he isn't seeing for one is the lack for a need of money you make everything yourself why need money
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>>738275671
guns, germs, & steel are liberal BS.
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>>738275771
>it's a race
Black people generally choose to hang out with other black people rather than people of different races.

>something something socioeconomic status something something
Just because somebody tries to sell you drugs and/or bully you into joining a gang doesn't mean you have to do it you fucking retarded cunt

>being a criminal is the lifestyle a sane person would choose
>jobz iz fo suckas, lemme rob white boiz who contribute to society instead
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>>738274209
so that shit that happened to the mexicans, the irish, or the chinese somehow doesn't matter? are you just pretending to be retarded? there's no top level conspiracy to keep the black man down, despite what they'd have you believe.
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>>738275934
>Too oppressed to get out of their situation.

Except lots of people do it. They join the army and get the GI Bill and go to college and succeed in life. They figure out a way.

People still have free will. Even systemic issues like you describe doesn't rob people of basic reasoning. If the inner city is so lacking in opportunity and riddled with violence and drugs, what stops people from just leaving?
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>>738275804
>Straw man reduction argument

Hey nice job. Listen. I know it's hard to follow, so I'll spell it out.

>America has a history of racism you can't deny. The FIRST black person who was able to go to 'white' school is in their 60s. This shit isn't ancient.
>This leads to a disproportionate amount of black people being jailed and poor. Either by being born into shitty communities built post-slavery, or being identified as dangerous, hostile, etc.
> Being poor leads to the increased crime, worse education, etc.

Also, where did I say "white people's fault?"
I said its because of America's history of racism. If you associate that with white people, the majority race in this country, how the fuck can you deny institutionalized racism?
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>>738276228
>Black people generally choose to hang out with other black people rather than people of different races.

All human races are instinctively driven to seek out and hang out with their own race. It's a survival instinct.
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>>738276320
>citation needed

this is why no one takes you seriously. if you claim there's some system in place to keep black people out, then you need to provide evidence that it exists.

the problem is, it's illegal to do so now as it directly violates the rights given by the constitution, aka the highest form of law in the US.
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>>738274421
>You people need to get out more
You first
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>>738271737
What's to like??
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>>738276298
I'm a black 19 year old, and I make $50,000 a year. I worked out of it. But don't you fucking tell me institutionalized racism doesn't exist.

Now, i'm privileged as fuck, but I'll never fucking deny that the privilege and institutionalized racism exist.

The idea is that it's easier said than done. The point of privilege is that it is an obstacle that on a large scale leads to the oppression of the unprivileged, and is not the equal opportunity people think we live in.

I'm not saying "Black people can't succeed because their lack of privilege". I'm saying, "Black people shouldn't have to work twice as hard to succeed because their lack of privilege".
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>>738276069
You're painting a picture of black people that doesn't exist.

This goes from "Racism is Evil" to "Kill White Pigs"

The fuck is wrong with you? Nobody thinks that way, and if you went outside and knew more than 10 people you'd understand that.
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>>738276685
Actually black people have more privilege in America.
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>>738276320
You're right. It is no secret that slavery and institutionalized racism were real things that did happen. It is also known that most of this institutionalized racism was perpetrated by whites against "colored" people. So my saying that the past contained racism by whites is not racism against whites; it's the truth.

>being poor still leads to the increased crime etc...
People are still able to reason. You cannot tell me that a black mother will tell her kid to go commit a crime. In fact, most black parents who are there for their kids try to protect them from making mistakes, and only tell them to stand up to themselves. Why then do generations after generations of blacks keep on making these same mistakes? Because they give in to peer pressure and wanna be "hood", or whatever word they use nowadays.

I went to a predominantly black high school; I've seen the environment these people live in. I'm not saying blacks have an instinctive need to commit crimes. The problem is that the black communities (that blacks form) encourage criminal behavior for reasons that are beyond me, and that is why so many blacks behave this way. THEIR COMMUNITY. Not institutionalized racism.
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>>738276228
>somebody tries to sell you drugs and/or bully you into joining a gang

That's how you define poverty? Wow. I can't even reason with a person this fucking crazy.

Go to community college and outside your little bubble for once kiddo.
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>>738271737
raceb8 thread raceb8 thread!
go back to /pol/ jesus christ, nobody wants your shitty pasta here
sage
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>>738276320
To be honest that's an oversimplification of the history of racism and segregation in the US.

Yes, southern schools continued to be segregated until 1965, but schools in the rest of the country were not. The Great Migration brought several million black people to the north, especially Chicago and other industrial cities, where they had opportunities far exceeding the life of their sharecropper contemporaries.

Things continued to improve during the early 20th century. There were black millionaires who had begun as the children of slaves. There were black lawyers, judges, politicians, public figures of all kinds.

US race relations are not solely determined by Jim Crow and the legacy of slavery. There have always been people willing to better themselves, and they usually succeed.
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>>738276261
The point of racism in America is that it's built on bias people don't recognize it. If a judge is twice as likely to convict a black man then a white man for commuting the same crime, because he associates black people with violence and hostility, then it creates a self perpetuating prophecy for black people to stay in fucked up situations.

There doesn't have to be a conspiracy to be biased, and have that show on a larger scale. Take Psy and Phil 101 summerfag
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>>738276931

OK this is just scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to whine about.
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>>738277073
/pol/ is toxic
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>>738277077
If a handful of extremists represent what you think of an entire race, you are by definition, racist and dumb as fuck.
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>>738271737
Hating black people for what democrats and the leftist propaganda corps have done to them is like hating the police because they enforce laws that politicians create.

Put your hatred where it truly belongs, on leftist media corporations and democrat politicians who collude with them.
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>Nigger are extremely stupid and uneducated

>Statistics say that niggers are more likely to mutilate there own genitals, they call it a disorder in the dsm, dont ask me idk

>98% of black people hold anti americanism and anti white views

>Niggers segregate themselves from normal functioning society because of there crippling social anxiety.

>89% of black people have been sent to jail for serious crimes (rape, murder, robbery, arson)

>Niggers lack social skills and the only way to compensate for such social failure is to praise there big black cock, which they have got. But it is typically mutilated looking and most girls i know wouldn't touch it

>89% of niggers have islamic tendencies and terroristic tendencies. (snoop dog, nigger cube)

> Niggers tend to be confrontational act like chimps instead of resolving matters in a civil and polite way
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>>738277030
That's how I define the way that kids get into crime. Go learn how to read before you fling your shit around.
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>>738276931
You're just showing that you justify your racism by jumping to conclusions and only paying attention to the smallest inconveniences and insecurities that you find in your own life.

Read about bias for 10 minutes on wikipedia.
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>>738274699
There are well over twice as many whites living in poverty than blacks, yet blacks are convicted of violent crime by a huge margin, something like 10% of the population committing 50% of violent crime. And most of that crime does not involve financial gain. Explain that.
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>>738271737
No
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>>738277446
So poverty is just "Kids getting into crime"?

What experience do you have with poverty? What experience do you have with drugs and abuse? What experience do you have as a poor black kid in Chicago?

If you're defining "how kids get into crime" from 90s PSAs and movies, then you need to go the fuck outside and get a reality check.
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The propagation of voodoo magic kills innocent animals by the truckload as they are used for blood scrying and divination of roots.
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>>738277385
/Pol/ fucking sucks. A bunch of angry virgins that don't know how the world works.
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>>738277786
I went to a predominantly black high school and this is the community that I witnessed with my own eyes.
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>>738271737

Their violent crime rate is about 10 times that of whites
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>>738271737
creating a sub-society promoting violence and anti-social behaviour. the whole "nigger" culture was a mistake.
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>>738271737
Being a nigger?
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>>738277707
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>>738277875
So your expose to a small black community represents how your ENTIRE worldview works?

And you still don't understand how you're susceptible to bias, and conscious and unconscious level?
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>>738271737
Okay lemme say it in a nicer time of voice instead of spouting out racial slurs. Black people, most everyone of them steal and kill giving any black person a shitty name, we get tired of picking through and seeing who's a nigger and who's actually human and just jumble them up together. The same is done with white people and im pretty sure if you're black I offended you just by saying these words, and most likely you play the victim and act like you haven't met one nigger who wasn't a piece of shit. The more racist you are the more black people who keep on getting triggered.
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>>738271737
my ex-girlfriend tried to convince me that her child was mine. It was born black. white + asian =/= black. I've hated black men ever since.
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>>738274955
You fucking what mate? The entire fucking reason that Africa as colonized was for its resources, one of them being African people. The African tribes also enslaved the fuck out of each other but we're too dumb to extract any other natural resource so they got taken over by the superior Europeans and Asians. They were constantly at war with each other but didn't develop guns, bombs, nor even fucking swords. And Mozambique has the audacity to put a fucking Kalishnikov on their flag.
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ITT: A first year psyc student tries to justify niggers acting like niggers because of his white guilt.
>Stop making excuses for them
>Start helping instead of perpetuating their bullshit
If you'd ever been around black people much you would quickly realize that a lot of their problems are problems that they create for themselves.
>Fuck the popo
>Fuck school
>Fuck a job
>Fuck all that shit that the white man wants you to do to make you a contributing member of society like the rest of us
>Why the fuck you acting so white? You got a job now so you think you better than us?
>Look at Andre acting all white because he went and got a job and a new car
They shame each other into perpetuating their niggotry. Whites have given blacks more opportunity than most whites get. Blacks have their own funding, associations, month, holidays, colleges, groups, scholarships, grants, assistance programs, etc. simply because they're black...but it's racist if the same were true for whites and we had white only programs, etc.
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>>738278011
I could accept that if the difference in violent crime convictions between races was a few points, but 50% is way to high to high for even your thinly veiled conspiracy against blacks. Try again.
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>>738278346

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>>738278221
i had a friend who had been convinced that the kid he had been calling his son was actually his even though he was clearly half black. he finally had to admit it wasn't his when the baby's real father filed for custody. it was sad but also interesting in how someone can be convinced of something when their emotions are involved.
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ITT - Dumbass racists who used warped facts and fcked logic to justify their racism, without understanding the difference between correlation and causation, and don't know how to identify their own biases. Creating a model of the world based on their small, statistically insignificant amount of experience with the rest of the world. You people are helpless. Eat ass.
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>>738278011
I don't think you understand what you're trying to link together there friend. 2x whites live in poverty. %50 more blacks convicted of committing crimes due to poverty. So, either the whites are just smarter about the crime they commit since crimes are committed due to poverty is your argument OR the blacks are just more crime/violence prone.
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>>738278588
And here comes the name calling. The last resort of someone losing the argument.
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>>738278357
crime statistics are obviously junk. it gets even worse when you get into the court system. if i had to guess, as a former cop, about 50% of the time a white person should be arrested and jailed, they aren't.
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>>738278588
>warped facts
Lol, you can't dispute plain facts, so you call everyone racists and start sucking your thumb? Cute.
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>>738277632
Beats by Mom
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>>738278588
Actually, I've traveled all over the place both in the USA and out of it. Niggers act like niggers wherever you go. It's not just here where muh reparations and the white man puts us down is a thing.
See >>738278346
We may have put the blacks here in the US into the position that they're in now, but we have also given them every opportunity to better themselves and get away from that situation yet they choose to continue in their ways. The causation is gone and thus there is only the correlation of facts and numbers in comparison to their behaviors that they themselves are now self perpetuating. Us whites have absolutely nothing to do with the current state of how blacks act. Racism is hating someone based on their skin color [and for nothing else. Prejudice, however, is dislike based on a pattern of behaviors and actions.
SUCK MY WHITE CACK. YOUR ARGUMENT IS SHIT.
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>>738278741
Yup
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>>738278746
Just because you disagree with the results of statistics does not imply they are "junk". Again, even if there was a conspiracy by the Department of Justice to put out "junk" statistics to make blacks look bad (and why would they? What do they gain?), again 50% higher conviction rate is an insanely high margin for 10% of the population. I would be more inclined to believe it if it was like 3% or 5% higher, you know a more realistic margin of error. Your anecdotal evidence does not hold up in the face of these numbers.
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Black people hate black people. I was working security with this fella from the West Indies and he didn't have a lot of good to say about black guys. It probably seems to be more an American issue, in the UK most black guys I've seen and spoken to are pretty decent guys.
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>>738278746
They are less likely to repeat the crime committed. They are more responsive to treatment programs. They are much less prone to being back in that courtroom either because they learn from their mistakes and stop fucking up or they get smarter about committing crime. Either way, statistics show that blacks are much more likely to repeat crimes and gain nothing from treatment. So, it would stand to reason that whites are less likely to be given as harsh of punishments.
>Factual numbers are bullshit
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I'm sensing a dwindling in pro nigger arguments
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>>738279270
I work in a highly technical field for a fortune 50 company, we have a diversity program and the only blacks who last longer than a few months are non American. One of the nicest guys I work with is from Senegal and he's been there for like 20 years. We also got a lot of Indians in the last few years, one was telling me how some black girl on the bus was trying to take her iPhone and she asked me, "What is wrong with black people?" I had to tell her she can't ask questions like that here lol.
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>>738279659
kek. I've run across this too. I've worked with a lot of foreign workers. Most of them are uber politically incorrect and it's fucking awesome because they get a free pass. Some of the shit that they say is hilarious and some of it is mind blowingly true yet we have to tell them shhhh
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>>738273554
Around blacks never relax
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