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Fresh pictures from Hamburg

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Fresh pictures from Hamburg
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>>738125931
>Hamburg

Can I have an unbiased answer as to that they are protesting against? Not what entities are being protested, but what is the message?
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>>738126272
Anti-Globalisation

>>738125931
That's not fresh, it's afternoon over there
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It's hard to give an unbiased answer, but the "protest" against the G20 nations is being made by the same people who protested in front of the European Central Bank in Frankfurt.
They want to protest greed, wars, corruption, etc. by destroying innocent people's cars, attacking policemen who are hired to do their jobs and nothing else and they just shot a police helicopter down.
Just like the looting "protests" in Baltimore every year.
Long story short, people are looking for an excuse to be as violent as possible and the G20 summit is the perfect one...
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>>738126421
>Anti-Globalisation

Oh so anti-social assholes with a chip on their sholder. Got it.
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I live in Hamburg downtown and l can tell you it looks like the fucking Purge. These leftside bastards destroy the City and attack Police officers. Why don't they shoot the comunist scum?
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I mean, setting a city on fire is the only way to show how you're just innocent people trying to make the world a better place, right?
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>>738126272
The message is: turn to violence if you haven't achieved any meaningful with your life and blame others for your failure
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>>738126638
*in your life
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>>738125931
It's the middle of the day in Hamburg, I highly question the freshness of that picture.
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>>738126708
What do you want? 10 minutes old pictures or what?
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>>738125931
water cannon anon from last night reporting in slept 3 h its getting worse and worse
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>>738126272

Protestors are mainly against capitalism and globalisation.

Main groups who are protesting are from far-left example Antifa.
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LOL Yuropoors
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>>738125931
>>738125952
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>>738126972

this tbh

it' antifa and other far-left nutjobs... again...
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>>738125931
It's a black lives matter protest right?
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>>738126473
>just shot a police helicopter down
absolute bullshit, somebody shot a flare gun at a helicopter, that`s not the same thing
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>>738126272
was watching coverage on cnn, a reporter asked this question to some random protestor.

he said something along the lines of "all these wealth and power in one place is not good" and said general stuff about anti capitalism.
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who was this group of protestors / people dressed in all black?
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>>738127906
>anti capitalism
>Capitalism is what funds corporations like CNN that allow his shitty, uneducated opinion to be heard in the first place
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>>738128030
they re called "schwarzer block" the part of german antifa known for being aggressive and fighting the police
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>>738128252
oh shit. so theyre like extreme leftists or whatever?
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>>738128132
But I thought CNN were bad and a bunch of meanies?
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>>738128132
yea capitalism is what built todays world.

but when all the top leaders and powers in the world gather together it might scare some people to think that decisions made here and consequences following those decisions have the power to change the world in favor of the already rich.
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>>738128288
just search schwarzer block on youtube and you ll see to me they re just a bunch of well situated kids that want anarchy
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>>738128422
so more like a bunch of edge lords then.

ill pass on the video.
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>>738128422
>bunch of well situated kids that want anarchy

wie gerne ich so nem spasten mal klarmachen würde was anarchie in wirklichkeit bedeutet
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>>738126694
Lol
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>>738128538
Fundgen hausen munchenflausen
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>>738128538
recht hast du sollen sie protestieren solange sie wollen aber autos von unbeteiligten anzünden und polizisten verletzen manchmal hoffe ich die würden das mal in anderen ländern versuchen
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>>738128538
Anarchie= libertärer Kommunismus
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>>738128538
>>738128621
>>738128643
halt fresse and fucking speak English, skide tyskere.
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>>738126473
>>738126491
>>738126585
>>738126626
>>738126638
>>738128132

Why are post-millennial kids such unrelenting PUSSIES?

Grow some balls. Go outside. Be a teenager and smash some stuff up so that you can rebuild the world in your own image, rather than hanging around doing nothing waiting for a hand-me-down world from fat men on viagra.

When they showed the battle for Seattle in 99, it was seen as a very cool thing.

Of course, the globalists then had to issue a punishment beating to America, and two years later the country began dismantling its own civil rights from within.

This will happen to Germany, now, too. Within two years it will suspend a huge chunk of civil rights.

You don't protest against the globalists and escape the humiliation beating. But that doesn't mean you submit either.

Pussies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfrOUkjObl0
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Speak American goddammit
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>>738128739
language of the pussies
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>>738128739
american LUL
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>>738128758
You speak it well
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>>738125931

I like the way Rush limbaugh claims the protestors are "bought and paid for"

He's can't possibly comprehend that that's actually people protesting g20 on their own free will.

That seems to be the new GOP talking point, that protestors are paid actors.

I wonder how long until they start claiming that the hippies were all paid actors protesting the vietnam war.
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>>738127906
the earth has been done with capitalism in the broad sense for a long time. capitalism is supposed to allow any willing individual a chance to support themselves by joining a common market. globalism however, has forced capitalism to exist outside the boundaries of competition to ensure their persistent survival. now-a-days, capitalism only exists juxtaposed from national sovereignty, creating a privately held market kept solvent by extraordinary laws that circumvent the need for competition.
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>>738128739
American =/= English
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>>738128699
>>738128648
>>738128643
>>738128621
>>738128538
Mudslimes are raping pure German chicks on the daily and destroying your country
Why the fuck aren't you angry at this, why would you protest the G20 instead by acting like monkeys
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>>738128758
speak pussy then
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>>738126272
>Comes to b
>Can I have an unbiased answer
Because they're niggers faggot.
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>>738128701
this
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>>738128814
>>738128758
>>738128791

> what is a joke?

Good fucking Christ, faggots, lighten the fuck up.
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>>738128828
I dont and never will
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I just Hope our police will kick thier asses as much as possible
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>>738128701

hahah i always think this stuff. kids today are the biggest cunts alive, scared sniveling little brainwashed cunts, they're like a bunch of tucker carlson's in the making.
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>>738128828
please don't post again.
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>>738128810
.. it's the /pol/ narrative, everyone not aligning with their world view is a cuck shill ctr shareblue false-flag paid-for-by-soros double agent and something about the jews.

not much news there.
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>>738128888
>>738128924
>not angry at this
Fuck me no wonder your entire country is a nation of cucks, hope you enjoy the middle-east expanding to your country
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>>738128811

there's still local economies in effect. Sure Walmart really fucked rural america over, but there's still sustainable local economic networks.
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>>738128828
go /pol/bot elsewhere
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>>738128621
The faggots thinking this is Kaiser dialect.

Lulz
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>>738128875
sure they're not faggots, nigger?
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>>738128701
t. Edmund
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>>738129002
Isn't your stepfather Ahmed calling you rn m8
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>>738128987
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>>738129074
speak English, nigger.
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>>738129051
who?
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>>738129027
Fuck me I didn't think of that.
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>>738129074
His name is Mohammed Shabib Shabab, not Ahmed, you islamophobe.
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>>738129188
kæk
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The Police should better use some 9mm against this fcking left fags.....
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>>738129188
fucking lost
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>>738129155
>Fuck me
post boipucci first plox
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>>738126272
We have some different groups attending the protests:
>Anti globalists: they don't want those international trade agreements (TTIP, CETA) which may lower product standarts and damage their respective local economy.
>Environment activists: they want that more is being done to reduce climate change (according to a certain president this doesn't happen at all), also the usual mix of "get rid of atomic energy" and "stop industrial meat production" etc. This is mostly greenpeace and their allies with their usual demands.
>People with a grudge against certain people of power: they're mostly against Erdogan and Trump and their respective human-rights and environment violations, but also against politicians who don't do enought against them.
>People living in Hamburg: they're mostly against the huge waste of money and interruption of their daily lifes for prestige reasons. Public transportation will be heavily hampered, getting into the city with a car next to impossible. A suggestion by these is that such a meeting should have taken place on an island which could have been isolated with much less manpower, which would be much more safe against terroristic threats.
>Violence tourists /anarchists /hard line communists: they barely conceil that they don't have a message at all and are only in it for the violence. Some may have one, but it's safe to assume that most don't since they turn up at random events and cause trouble. (I remember them attending to a students demonstration against certain fees and wrecking havoc for no aperrent reason - they do this all the time.)
/german living in Hamburg
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>>738129228
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>>738129248
I'm to old to accept transgenders, go fuck yourself.
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>>738129260
>trump
>human rights violation
Bitch where?
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>>738129260
>Violence tourists /anarchists /hard line communists: they barely conceil that they don't have a message at all and are only in it for the violence. Some may have one, but it's safe to assume that most don't since they turn up at random events and cause trouble
well, they... prolly want communism and shit, one might think?
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>>738126421
>Anti-Globalisation
So they support trump?
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>>738129352
I don't give a shit about your gender, perceived or not, I just wanna see your asshole.
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>>738128828

raping and killing no less. WHile the government sweeps it under the rug.

it's a fucking complete disaster.
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>>738129439
>Trump
>globalist
you have to pick both, anon.
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>>738128828
>pure german girls

hahhhhahahaahah
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>>738129490
>not germany but sweden
>webm related
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>>738129439

What, you believed trump when he said he was anti-globalism? But you're ok with the fact that he has acted to support globalism at every turn since he became president?

lol, whatever happened to actions speak louder than words? I guess it's lost on you lot.
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>>738128814
Hey yo nigga, wacca doin'?
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>>738129490
samefag
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>>738129389
Something along the lines of supporting terrorists [moderate rebels] in syria, trying to wage war against russia something like that. The "human rights violations" were also mostly targeted against Erdogan.
>>738129409
Well, but they accept that communists and anarchists fight together, even though they can't be achieved together. That's like a meat eater fighting together with a vegan because the meat eater wants more tasty bacon and the vegan wants meat banned.
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>>738129590

germany does it too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

too bad about sweden. Finland and norway won't stand for that shit.
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>>738129741
Oh really? Was it really the case that this incident wasn't still publically discussed month's after it happened? I remember otherwise.
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>>738129674
>Well, but they accept that communists and anarchists fight together, even though they can't be achieved together. That's like a meat eater fighting together with a vegan because the meat eater wants more tasty bacon and the vegan wants meat banned.
the end goal of communism is anarchism, read the manifesto and Das Kapital -it's how Marx laid it out. They only differ in how to achieve the stateless society, and in various theoretic bullshit no one cares about anyway.
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>>738126272
Anarcho-Socialists. They hate that you have nice things. They would rather tear everything down, and everyone be equally poor.
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>>738130010
wow, really? oh shit, that sucks!
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they aren't "anti-globalization" but globalization critics, which is different. And most of the people are just protestimg how the world has been run during the last decades, not installing communism. So when you think, this is shit, go home, watch porn, crank one out and shut the fuck up you worthless gaycunts
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>>738129949
Nah, i'm not reading that crap. I know enought about communism to know that the average person supporting it is an under achiever who wants more free handouts. Just take a look at any area with high leftist influences - notice anything? There's a lot more garbage, sprayed shit, stickers, illegal posters, smashed windows etc than areas around it. I sure as fuck don't trust these people to take care of my money when they can't even take care of their own living areas. It doesn't work period, so does anarchy as a concept because the majorety of humans are essentially selfish niggers. As soon as everyone works their ass off it may work, since the people proposing communism won't do that because "SmASh CaPitAlisM xxDD" it won't.
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>>738129590
is that supopsed to be showing that Sweden censors the DM website?

If so, fucking kek, you just failed to configure your VPN properly. DM works fine in Sweden you drunken cuck.
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>>738130655
>i'm not reading that crap
>I know enought about communism to know..
>i'm not reading that
>I know enough
>i'm not reading
>I know
lol gtfo
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>>738131840
>successfully avoiding all points that were made
And thats what its like to argue with any extremist.
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>>738132035
you made no points, anon. You told me that you're not interested in learning about something, and then that you know enough about said something.

in other words, you bragged about being ignorant. How very American.
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>>738132439
Ok, let me break it down so you can understand it:
Thesis 1: People supporting communist ideas are under achievers with averagely little or no contribution to society.
Proof: Areas where leftists are present become shitholes which is an indicator for low education and low income.
Thesis 2: People don't change their behaviour over night. That being said, a supporter of communism/ anarchy who didn't work a single day in his life will not be as efficient as any other worker under comparable conditions (>implying he works at all) when suddenly starting to work under communist rule.
Proof: I don't feel like finding a paper that people are stubborn and usually sloth's.
Thesis 3: People will not suddenly be nice to each other and get their shit together in order to work for the greater good.
Proof: All communist systems died. (Well maybe except North Korea, i'm sure it's nice to live there.)
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>>738133187
>Thesis 1: People supporting communist ideas are under achievers with averagely little or no contribution to society.
classic strawman, discarded.
>Areas where leftists are present become shitholes which is an indicator for low education and low income
Scandinavia is socialist, and is the riches part of the world with the highest standards of living -opinion discarded.
>>738133187
>Thesis 2:...
more strawman babble, discarded.
>I don't feel like finding a paper that people are stubborn and usually sloth's
because you can't, is why.
>Thesis 3
pointing to North Korea, a feudal authoritarian state, as "proof" of the evils of communism only further paints you as an ignorant, sorry -opinion discarded.
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>>738133187
>North Korea
>communist
Ahahahhahahahhahhhaa

The rest of your arguments are just shit, but that one made me laugh.
Not the anon you replied to btw
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>>738126743
wtf
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>>738128701
Cringe: The Post
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>>738126970
Terroristenabschaum
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>>738133929
Impotence: the post
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>>738133697
>classic strawman, discarded.
This is just one picture of one of the popular leftist meeting place in Hamburg, i know what most of that area looks like there, if you expect me to find a detailed report then no, i don't feel like providing scientifically accurate sources if you ignore the obvious. I'm sure you can show me a leftist area that doesn't constantly smell like piss and weed / is covered in garbage.
>Scandinavia is socialist, and is the riches part of the world with the highest standards of living -opinion discarded
But never tried to be communist. Opinion double discarted.
>more strawman babble, discarded.
Really? Do you really think a lefty that never worked a day in his life because he doesn't want to support capitalism / is a sloth, will work with the same efficiency as someone who worked before under capitalist rule?
>pointing to North Korea, a feudal authoritarian state, as "proof" of the evils of communism only further paints you as an ignorant
Feel free to show me working "good" communism then, will ya?
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>>738134254
My bad, didn't know you had autism.
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>>738128701
I dont think post-millenials are old enough to protest.

A Millenial is anyone born between 1982-2002
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>>738134935
The definition of the "generations" is way too fluid to be exact.

The baby boom is 20 years, 45-65.
Gen X is then often only 14 years: 66-80
Millennial is anyone 81-00; 19 years.
Post Millennial is '01+

Either way, 16 year olds should be out protesting and breaking stuff.
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>>738127380
Nutjobs protesting nutjobs.
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>commie dumbasses fighting a globalist government
will there be plenty of rekt vids soon?
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>>738135106
Breaking stuffs that their mommy and daddy tax dollars have to pay back later?

The other anon was right, you have autism.
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>>738129389
19.902559, -75.101862
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>>738135759
>tax dollars paying for private property

You're not so good at economics, are you, PUSSY?
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>>738131620
Stupidity?
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passend zur Situation in Hamburg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVrvqR5X7oQ
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>>738135918
Your argument is shit, repeating your ad hominem won't change that.
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>>738134386
So, just to sum everything you said up quickly, it's roughly;

>I'm 12 and what is this

You're completely ignorant and proud of it. You source no proof, you throw nothing but strawmen, and then talk about how you won't read a book on the subject because then you might feel slightly less ignorant.

8/8 i r8 u g8 b8 m8
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>>738128963
not speaking about rush, personally im not a fan but he has a historical precedent and all that jazz but i height how reactionary both sides have gotten. the best debate politically of the entire past 8 years was cruz vs sanders AFTER the election. its sad to see the country turn into shitflinging "im not the other party" antics like the uk
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>>738134386
Tbh your destroying the anarcho communist shill
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>>738136439
What argument? Learn the difference between logic and rhetoric then come back to talk with the humans.
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>>738136806
Yfw you were the one who claimed strawman before anyone else
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>>738129531
be that lefty idiot. If you would read your left wing newspaper you would know
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>>738136998
do not worry, anon. Astroturfers forget everything they have read the instant they close the tab.
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>>738137237
>can only respond with insults and memes

confirmed meatbot.
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>>738136998
Lol. I'm not the guy you were arguing with.

Just because we both think you're as sharp as a bag of hammers doesn't mean we're the same person.

Protip: you can tell because the other guy went out of his way to even humour your argument and everyone else thinks you're a blithering retard.

Source: Me, duh-huh, books r bad and they might give me the communisms
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>>738126421
>Anti-Globalisation
bullshit. If you are aginst globalisation you are an evil protektionist. They are commies and you know it if you speak with them. They are the well feed kids of the middle class that just want to see the world burn.

They never build sth. and never sold sth, they never worked (like Karl Marx, who they never read) They have no plan what comes after a revolution because they can't build, can't sell, can't work, can't lead

They support the refugee crises but never show up when there are social helpers needed because there is no beer in the refuge camps and they are lazy fucks

They are supported by goverment and NGOs under the eyes of Merkel to keep the opposition under control. these are Merkels babies
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>>738126972
Antifa aren't really far left. They have a range of views, some liberal, some communist, some anarchist, some conservative etc. They are purely in opposition to fascism.
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>>738137455
nice try fag. antifa is the most far left. there are no real liberals or conservatives in antifa bc it is completely opposed to the core beliefs
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>>738137647
You clearly are just ignorant about the history of antifa. They aren't one homogenous group. It exists in different forms all over the place. Some are far left sure, but look at the neoliberal centrist counter-protests against far right marches in the UK and Europe.
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>>738137455
>purely in opposition to fascism
they are the definition of facism
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>>738137850
Blah blah blah
Next up you'll try to tell us not all Muslims are pedophile worshiping fascists
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>>738137890
Fascism is by definition far right wing authoritarianism. How can anarchists or communists who don't believe in a government be authoritarian?
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>>738126638
So Columbine
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>>738137439
Reading commie books doesn't give you the edge on your arguments, so tell us again where has communism been tried and has worked.
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>>738138062
Or, indeed, George W Bush.

Oh wait, he was Prez. Hmm, so maybe there is no direct link with being a failure, then?
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>>738137850
there is no far right in the uk; they are all moderate big government left of center or big government centerists. and neoliberal isnt classical liberalism it is populism without respect to morals
>>738138048
communism is the same as fascism on all account of outcomes and is also on the right. learn to philosophy
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>>738138103

>Books are evil so I don't read anything except those little blurbs on Fox News and the red pill on Leddit. XD sO RaNdUmB
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>>738138342
>communism has zero good examples so i better start building more strawmen!
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>>738128875
>Because they're niggers faggot
They are fellow whites, idiot.
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>>738138226
Clueless. We've had 2 far right terrorist attacks in the last year or so in the UK. There is a growing number of neo-nazis.

Learn some basic definitions and then get back to me.
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>>738138542
those are individuals the entire uk government is big government left or big government centrists. there is no right party in the uk except ukip which is barely right of center
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>>738125931
>hamburg
>not in the states
Yeahhh, I could care less lol
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>>738138494

You realize I'm not the same person right? Like, your itty-bitty, little head can handle that right?

I'm not going to provide you with anything except shots of my cock. I don't really care if you're just so gosh darn mad about those liberals and communists. Maybe if you'd read more books you'd be able to provide me with something compelling to argue against, instead of

>muh feelings
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>>738138103
Read your own infographic, you might learn something.

Capitalism and free markets can only exist where consumption is voluntary.

Any form of government or legal coercion to consume is therefore statism, or cartelism.

So we go back to Plato's Republic. Here, he builds up the bare essentials for a society: a farmer, a soldier, a shoemaker.

In the modern world we have millers, road builders, bridge builders, electricians.

Face it - in the most "free market" capitalistic nations on the planet, you are coerced into consumption in infinite small ways. Vagrancy acts, the need for a social security number and a bank account to take wages for labour.

Licenses for any number of basic human tools, from cars to guns to televisions, depending on where you live.

People have a very selective thought process when they fantasise about the Thoureaux-esque "rugged individualism".

They believe they can set out like a pioneer, find a flat plot of fertile land in a forest next to a fresh water lake teeming with fishes, and believe they can live forever in that self-realised Eden.

They don't consider for a moment that literally everyone else is thinking of the same thing.

What happens if you stop acting as a society and call it a free-for-all tomorrow? Everyone goes charging off to stake their claim and you have untold conflict and collapse of the basic social contracts.

No food, no safety. Oh look - life is much worse.

This is what is so pathetic about it. That it takes five minutes to think through precisely why states are not some huge conspiracy, but a vital and benign form of self-discipline.

But people are so pandered to and intellectually lazy that they feel they are too good to have to work this situation out for themselves.
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>>738138839
>still not one example of success from communism
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>>738138839
>You realize I'm not the same person right?

Why do people keep saying this?
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>>738139041

Read
>>738139010

He cares so much more about educating under-privileged adults like you. If you work hard though, you can go to school, just like all those liberals that make you so impotently mad.
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>>738138660
You conflate right wing with small or no government.

This is entirely wrong. It is amateur political theorist crap that became "fact" on American TV.

The political right is a term originated in the French revolution. It means those members of parliament who saw themselves NOT as servants executing the will of the public, but as a superior class of leaders who dictated policy to the public from their elevated position.

Small and anti-statist people are not on the political spectrum of Left / Right politics.

They are also in a fantasy land, having not even read Plato's Republic, which is like week one of every political programme on the planet.

As such, anti-statists are an irrelevance to any kind of political debate because anarchy as a concept is just an adolescent fantasy.
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>>738126970

It's a shame that you Germans can't organise like this when your women are getting raped by "refugees"

Instead you bend over for Mustafa and conserve your anger and energy for Starbucks
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>>738139010
Every country has a state, but it has nothing to do with communism. What kind of autist are you rambling away about thoureaux and a pure libertarian society, even libertarian need laws in protecting properties.

What I don't get is how communism will work in society as there is another factor which no one ever brings up, individual freedom. Can a communist state allow such freedom for someone to take the risk, whether or not he's living in a control-illusion to become what he wants, or he's forever to be what the state forces him to be because that is the essential of survival. Capitalism at the most basic is exchanging of goods and services. You seem to jumped from one argument to the other

>In the modern world we have millers, road builders, bridge builders, electricians.

to

>Face it - in the most "free market" capitalistic nations on the planet, you are coerced into consumption in infinite small ways. Vagrancy acts, the need for a social security number and a bank account to take wages for labour.

It doesn't even make sense what you said. Free-for-all tomorrow? Unless I personally have the skill and energy to do everything, I don't, therefore I trade my skill for money and trade that for whatever.
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>>738139532
i was simply adding an additional adjective not qualifying the term left and right. i understand what your saying but i think you are going over what my intended statement meant, and additionally i think my adjective of both expanding gov is correct about the uk. having said can you share with me what part of the goverment is not centrist in the uk?
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>>738139469
If you work hard though, you can actually go and study at school, learning a useful skill other than muh political philosophy.
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>>738139532
>but as a superior class of leaders who dictated policy to the public from their elevated position

This is a very old doctrine, its like saying democrats were once slave owners and republicans were liberators because of Lincoln.
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>>738139800
I am not providing theories on a communist dystopia any more than a corporate-fascist one.

I am saying that a decoupling from social contracts is just pure adolescent fantasy.

You are not locked into agreements with the state because of some massive global conspiracy. Those contracts are formed because they work.

So you believe my post jumps from one argument to the next because a disconnect in your own thinking does not let you see how one stage leads - inevitably and organically - onto the next.

So, all I say makes perfect sense - it is simply a description of things that already happened. If it makes no sense to you, then history makes no sense to you. It doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that your comprehension of it is in some way flawed.
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>>738125931
As a guy who lives in Hamburg im so happy that at my place everything is peaceful
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>>738139870
I did actually. Went to school for a horticultural degree where it just so happens they also teach you a course of philosophy. I guess you wouldn't know that because you've never been to post- secondary education though, right?
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>>738129843
Yeah, it took it like 3 days to become public, then was the topic for a few months and gets mentioned all the time.
No idea what this >>738129741 cockgargler is about
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>>738139992
That would only be a valuable analogy if the demo/rep alignment still existed today. Then your example would work.

The politics of the right wing however has never changed. It exists in three layers.
1. secure the continued existence and authority of those in power

2. gain the support of a sufficient section of the obedient public so that they will protect us should we be tested. We can achieve this by promising them entry to our elite class if they show sufficient obedience.

3. Marginalise dissent to the point of becoming invisible.

Group 1 takes from group 3, hands a tiny slice of that to group 2, and then tells group 2 that there is nothing to worry about because group 3 never really existed in the first place.

It's a simple trick. If right wing politics was truly about no authoritarianism, then group 3 would not exist. However, if group 3 truly did not exist, the right wing system would collapse.
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>>738140568
you are pretending that anything right of no borders is totalitarianism. why do you have to lie like that just have a conversation damn
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>>738137448
You had three good points, then threw it all out of the window. Great job, fuckwit.
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>>738130655
>only reading literature that you are comfortable with
Are you serious? Fuck you, Hayek.
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>>738140391
Lol, I'm an actual horticulturalist and your degree is worthless.

You did a two year and took a philosophical gen-ed, you faggot.
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the fuck is going on in Hamburg?
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>>738140704
I also wrote this one:
>>738139010
If you read that and still think I am a proponent of zero-state anarchism, then I really don't know what more I can say to help you.

All I can assume is that you are so conditioned now by memeing that you have reached a point where anybody who can see things in any way different to you, you are programmed to read their views as the direct and polar opposite of your own.

It is called solipsism.
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>>738140866
G20 because one of the biggest German cities clearly is the best choice for a meeting of the 19 most powerful countries and the countries of the European Union.

Instead of doing that on one of the many norther islands or something they just HAD to do it in the metropole.

And, big surprise, anti-globalists etc arrived, some went violent. Gee, who could have expect that, certainly not the G20 participants.

Result: The left is demonized and G20 is ending without any real deals.
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>>738140863

If you think horticulture is worthless then you are so much more stupid than I thought.

The world is literally begging people to grow plants and you're too fucking stupid to figure out how to apply your own degree. I can't believe you actually just said that.

You're now, conclusively and quantifiably, retarded.
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ITT: 20 something year old faggots argue about what political ideology is the most fucked.
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>>738141134
thanks for explaining that anon. I appreciate it. it's really wonder why people continue to riot. throughout history and today.
>we don't like you so we're going to destroy our own town and businesses
what has that ever accomplished? makes them no better than niggers
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>>738140139
You're right, maybe the Right-Libertarian info-graphic wasn't so ideal but it was for that anon who couldn't give his case on communism.
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>>738126491
anti globalisationin an anti capitalist way.
they are also for open borders and all that stuff.
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>>738141446
Well, besides it being fucking retarded (muh extremism), it's not just locals. Ironically enough the open borders we have in Europe thanks to the globalization allows rioters from other countries, too, coming here and destroying shit.

Nonetheless, the police already took a lot on the borders in cuffs. It is odd. What saddens me most is that this violent minority is now representing the protests despite the vast majority of the protesters with their legit concerns are peaceful.

Not to mention that it doesn't spread violence in a similar way like the right extremism and it's protests for the rest of the year. These fucks burned more buildings down than the left ones at G20 could burn down measle trash cans.
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>>738138103

>1 quote from Kropotkin, making no argument, summarizing the goal of syndicalism

>several small paragraphs by Tom Brown also making no argument, and describing the general goal of syndicalism
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>>738129439
holy shit, turmptards really are stupid. the's in the swamp rigt with them, the "draining" rethoric was just to get your idiots votes.
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>>738142177
Care to add your own?
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>>738140739
What i could find in 10 sec for you
http://www.taz.de/!5020381/

fuckwit
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>>738142705
This may not be relevant in today's term but it may be useful to add to your point.

https://theawl.com/literary-magazines-for-socialists-funded-by-the-cia-ranked-93e65a5a710a
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>>738141952
>Not to mention that it doesn't spread violence in a similar way like the right extremism and it's protests for the rest of the year. These fucks burned more buildings down than the left ones at G20 could burn down measle trash cans.

Examples?
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The next time some asshole is telling me what a wonderful perfect place Europe is, I'm going to remember this thread.
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>>738128699
Halts maul du verkommene polensau! Im internet grosses maul. Haben ja 39 gesehen was dahinter war. Kurwa polska.
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>>738126421
They have signs calling for open borders. Pretty sure theyre only anti capitalism.
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>>738129589
best post in thread tbh

For all the bootlickers in this thread, let me quote Comrade Jimmy Dore:
>If you're doing a protest that is sanctioned by the people you are protesting and the police, you're not in a protest - you're in a fucking parade

Rioting isn't going to end capitalism or dismantle the state apparatus but it's good to remind the elite of capital that not everyone has bought into the liberal-capitalist 'consensus'
Tread lightly, dear rulers.
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>>738143318
The official police reports for 2015 and 2016. Arson with political right background multiplied and was around ~1000 per year.
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>>738135918

Tax dollars will pay for damaged public property and damage to private property will be paid for by mommy and daddy's increased insurance premiums or businesses passing their increased insurance premiums on to their consumers.
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>>738127248
LOL Yuropoors, the american writes while he weighs half a ton; but its okay because according to american standars thats pretty normal, so he continues to eat his triple cheeseburger
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>>738128963
This
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>>738145229
>insurance companies will raise the premiums of customers who did not claim, thereby hobbling themselves against competitors who were not claimed against and therefore do not need to raise premiums
>businesses will raise cost of products to recoup losses, thereby hobbling themselves against competitors who were unaffected by damage

It's funny how, in a post-string where you tried to spit on the cold hard economic facts of life, you ended up looking like a guy with a permanently opened google tab, and no life experience whatsoever.
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>>738126473
>Just like the looting "protests" in Baltimore every year
I live in Baltimore, it's not EVERY fucking year.
Definitely a shithole & when there's an excuse to loot they will chimp the fuck out without a second's thought, but it's not nearly that frequent of an occurrence.
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>>738126638
Islam has taught us that nothing fosters both respect & compliance like violence & the threat of it.
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>>738128739
>they can speak my language as well as their own
>I can only speak my own and theirs is unintelligible gibberish to me
>therefore I am superior to them
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>>738129439
Hello my friend, you seem like the perfect person to help my formerly powerful family regain our Nigerian wealth. I come from a long line of royalty...
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