I have some questions /b/. My gf is for the most part a normie,

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>>738124761

>>738124563
Nice kankles

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>>738125195
Thanks?

Also in the same boat as OP.

>>738125474
Bump

>>738124563
Every chick I've ever known who was into bdsm and cum denial like what you're describing, was emotionally broken and depressed whenever they weren't being degraded or abused during sex. They all had past abuse in their early lives, like one chick was abused by a family member for years, fucked her up in the head real good. These women aren't what you'd say are relationship material. That shit only works in the movies bro. If you have a normie gf, be thankful and accept that she'll never be okay with letting you degrade her like that during sex and if she did, there ain't nothing normal about her.

>>738124563
Why the fuck would you ask that question here? Not a very Dom thing to do.

>>738126020
This.

>>738126096
>I'm admitting that I need help
>I don't know where else to go for help on this matter

>>738126020
My ex wife was into all that stuff tho, but yeah she did have a fucked up past, but she was pretty good in the relationship.
>until she aborted my kid without telling me she was pregnant

>>738124563
You're not a Dom... there isn't such a thing as a Dom. People who refer to themselkves like that are fake wannabe dom faggots. You can be Dominant... but not a Dominant... its no ta nationality or some shit.
If you were Dom, as you claim to be, you wouldn't even be here asking this shit. Dominant guys into bdsm know how to teach because 90% of what they do is command. You should be having an adult open conversation with your gf, and telling her what you expect from her, and how you want her to act submissively for you.
Shes a normie... so are you. Its fine.

>>738127127
You sound like a huge asshole and contribute nothing to this thread.

Go slow be firm but gentle. build trust and over time increase intensity.
Talking from experience
GF wouldnt swallow, anal, or do bondage.
Now cops a slappin as well as the above mentioned.

>>738124563
>I'm a dom myself

kek'd

>>738126965
>but she was pretty good in the relationship
>until she aborted my kid without telling me
My point exactly

>>738127915
Nigger

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>>738129099
that's MR. NIGGER to you boy

>>738127566
He's right though. People with vanilla sexual appetites that develop a curiosity about bdsm often find that they're ill equipped for that level of kink because neither really understands the psychology of it. You have to be a little fucked up in the head to either get off on pain, or inflicting pain. Don't normalize it by dismissing the truth, if op was truly a dominate, he would have no problem emotionally breaking his gf into being a submissive. Normal people can be either dominate or submissive during sex. Those roles often change depending on the mood. And most normies that get into bdsm often think all it takes is wearing a little leather and buying a toy bullwhip at starship and suddenly they're playing shades of grey. Bdsm is either the pop culture version of a little kink designed to spice things up in the bedroom, or some shit that two emotionally damaged people do to find catharsis in an otherwise very skewed reality. The latter often seek each other out. Normies don't get into it like that. So what the anon said was completely true, if you were really a dom, you wouldn't be on /b/ asking how to break your gf down into a submissive. If you need a little kink to spice things up in the bedroom, just watch porn and make believe.

>>738124563
Fake it till you make it. Be decisive and demanding. 95% of women love being told what to do anyway

>>738124563
Start small, Bobby pins on her nipples, if she enjoys that introduce some rope. Maybe tie her to the bed and tease her. Basically just keep upping the ante until you have her fully submissive. I did that and in no time I was leading her around by her crotch rope and nipple clamps begging for me to relieve her.

>>738124563
look her up in your basement....

I have always been very dominant in sex (slaps, forced kisses, forced and unconfortable positions for her, unable her to move with my arms, etc) but we never talk about it with my partners and they all seem to love it.

My current gf now told my explicitly that she love the rought sex i give to her and want to be dominated even more (ropes, blind games, whips) In other words i havent seen myself as a dominant person before and i really dont know if i like that things, where should i start?

>>738129585
I'm asking what to do, not how to do it.
My ex wife came already well-trained so I didn't have to do any of the hard work.
WHAT
DO
I
NEED
TO
DO
TO
BREAK
HER
(legally)

>>738130844
Start small, tie her spread to the bed and slap her tits and pussy a little. Lead that into making her cum. Work up into tieing her up and flogging her ass and tits. If she's still enjoys that sky's the limit. Het crazy with, in bad my sub tied on all 4s with a right crotch rope and clamps on crawling around my place. She loved it and would start intentionally disobeyed so I'd give her some punishment. Was great fun

>>738131123
I had*

>>738131050
The public training works too, I had my sub wearing clamps under her shirts and ropes for panties. A couple times even a small vibrator in her. Was good training.

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>>738127127
>>738129585
These are some solid points. I was inclined to disagree completely at first probably because of the way they're worded, but after thinking about my experiences personally I agree 100%.


>>738131050
OP do you actually have a desire to break her, or are you just doing it because she wants it?

>>738131344
And what do you currently do with her that you class as "rough"?

>>738131286
Okay.
>>738131344
She said she wanted to try a bit of bdsm stuff, I want her to be my slave.
Basically trying to take an inch and go a mile with it.
The problem is that my experience as a dominant is with people who already know what they're doing, and I'm not sure how to proceed. Also nobody thus far has answered the second part of my question, how do I condition her so that she cannot cum if I tell her not too?
I'll accept that I'm a shitty dominant, but don't outright invalidate me for asking for assistance.

>>738131050
Take away her privileges. Don't let her leave the house without your permission, which you won't ever give. Restrict access to her friends and family- this is paramount, she can't know that what you do to her is "abuse", which technically it is, and her friends and family will pressure her to dump you if she tells anyone what you're doing to her. Be rough and callous during sex. Hold her down. Learn how to choke her without making her pass out. Whenever you want sex, walk straight up to her and take it. Never give her foreplay. Force her to give it to you. Start shaming her on her looks, her figure, dress her in outfits you choose when she's at work that are very conservative and don't show her body. Punish her for any disobedience by withholding food. Don't let her eat anything with any calories. Create a low carb diet and micromanage her adherence to it. Start introducing physical discipline, always in places that are hidden by the clothes you dress her in. Get yourself a good switch, something flexible yet strong, bamboo works well, about 3/8" thick. Concentrate on her thighs and ass. Make her cry, then immediately comfort her. Do this after each disciplinary activity. Instill in her complete obedience. Shouldn't take more than 6 months.

>>738131123
Thanks m8, if she disobey i would naturally go through untill she obey, you had some kind of safe word or something? Or she would just obey when its too much? In lther words, i wouldn know where to stop.

>>738131517
Mostly choking, biting, and scratching for now. We've only been together about 2 months.

>>738131907
Very good post. I like your style of thinking. The only problem is that she doesn't live with me.

>>738131969
Always good to have a safe word. Stops you from getting a little carried away

Can someone help with the last part of my post as well, how do I increase her sexual sensitivity so that she can reach orgasm more quickly and easily?

And how much benadryl gives a body high that makes sex feel better?

>>738124944
Please more of this

>>738132153
You need to control every aspect of her life if you want to totally and completely dominate her. That's difficult to accomplish if she's not living with you. Think of her as your child, but not in a pedophile way. You need to be her father, so to speak. A male figure in which she has absolute dependency on. You should think about moving her in.

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Bitch needs to get choked.

>>738132276
Also, whats your mental state about your slave". In my mind, i want my partners to be mine, i really dont want to hurt them, i just want them to give themself willingly to me, entierly, is it necesarelly vilolence and sex needed for that? What is in your mind, you wanna hurt them?

Bumping, thread is great, taking notes.
no op

>>738131670
I've been into kinky stuff since I can remember so I guess it just comes naturally to me, surprisingly difficult to put it into words however.

I'd reccomend reading some literotica stories, and just in general reading as much material on forums on how to dominate a girl. Or perhaps search tasks for submissive/slaves, how to humiliate a sub etc

Honestly the amount of times I've been "dominant" with a girl it includes an aspect of being degrading and humiliating towards them, usually just remember tasks or scenarios I enjoy that I've read about and then make her play them out, have rope to restrain her, command her around.

Try pinning her up against the wall, hand around her throat, let your hand explore her body. Start off with little commands telling her to open her legs wider while she's pinned there. Or perhaps make her look at the ground and not directly at you while you're doing this to her, tell her to get on her kneee or whatever the fuck you want her to do, my point is start with little things and work your way up to bigger tasks, excercise control over everything she does.

Punish her when she starts rubbing you through your pants when she's pinned against the wall, limit everything she does and only have her do stuff when you tell her too. Get her to the very edge of orgasming then force her to her knees, grab a fistfull of her hair and make her suck your two fingers, slowly push them down her throat forcing her to gag, before telling her to unbuckly your belt, then tell her she's only allowed to orgasm when you're satisfied that she's earnt it, threaten her with not being allowed to cum atall.

It's surprising how much power people will give up to you.

>>738133031
See, the definition of sadist.

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You need to watch the movie "Secretary".

>>738133980
r8 this

>>738133685
>>738132962
Alright, I gotcha on the control and building up the submission part, now how about the orgasm denial part?

And what about >>738132441

>>738132867
That's pretty much all of it I think.
Be glad you got that, it's all normally locked behind a pay wall on patreon

>>738129597
>95% of women love being told what to do anyway

kek

>>738124563

To make things simple without judging you or your gf (if she has a fucked up past like the others assume, burying you head in the sand won't make it go away), here's a few tips :
Make it a game that ultimately won't be a game. Set very simple rules to assert both your roles in the relationship outside the bedroom as well as inside, and keep in mind that it will take time for both of you to adjust.
The purpose is to set a rythm with commands and make her expect a reward by fulfilling a command, thus making her happy to serve you in whatever way you desire as long as you praise her for her efforts. (that's the part most people don't understand, in SM it's the sub who's usually the egomaniac whose ego needs to be stroked by being put on a -very degrading- pedestal)
A simple and very common one is the kneel command. Set the simple rule that when you're at home, every time you say KNEEL (or DOWN, or whatever codeword you want), she has to drop anything she's doing and drop to her knees in front of you. Keep her there as long as you want (a few seconds at first, then make it longer) and then part her on the head and say "Good girl, I love you, you may stand." When she stands she replies "thank you, I love you", and you both return to normal and go about your day.
This sounds simple but is actually very hard to do for a sub at first. Let it sink in a bit for a week or two, then when you both feel comfortable with it change the conversation. When she kneels, you say "I love you, I really want to dominate you", and she replies "I love you, I really want you to dominate me" before you allow her to stand up again.
Once you get that set in, you basically add more commands little by little to fix your roles in the relationship.
There's a lot more to it, google BDSM basic commands to find more detailed explanations.
But if you take the time to do this, ultimately she'll be your subservient slut for the rest of her life.

>>738131050

Be patient and do this
>>738134770

>>738134205
Here's the link btw for anyone interested:
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OP, you need to find out what your girlfriend is into, more specifically.

There are two components, that people talk about in this thread:
- Obedience (mental)
- Pain (physical) and more generally "being rough"

I have a girlfriend that likes it rough.
She loves it when I force myself onto her, and so we end up role-playing rape fantasies very often.
She loves being chocked, but you have to learn how she likes it. It don't grab her throat and cut off the air, I instead press on the sides, where the blood flows to the brain. It can enhance her orgasms (like the sick fucks that choke themselves fapping).

So that's an example of physical domination. I slap her but I don't go too much into the pain section. She just likes it "savage" style.

So that's where my knowledge ends.

>>738131050
>What do I do
So to start you have to find out if :
-she wants rough/savage sex.
So you should try out : Rape style, violent style ...
-she wants to be mentally abused.
So you have to treat her like a dog, and basically bully her into submission

Is this clear/helpfully?

>>738133715
As i said here>>738130844
I havent been into really hurting a partner for dominance, but it seems to be the things girls want, and abo>>738131050
ut what i have been reading here, sounds like there is another level of dominance i didnt know, i i must say, soumds exciting as fuck. Have anyone try to make your partner accept that you fuck another girls while she keep on accepting being your slave? That i would really really like, a lot

>>738134288
They really do, even if they get pissed. Especially if they get pissed. A woman loves and needs the man who holds her tight and tells her how it is. They love to feel protected especially if you're the bad guy.

>>738131907
>Don't let her eat anything with any calories
That's not how food works

>>738132005
Vanilla af

get her to read the 50 shades books. they're lame as hell but they turned my girl into a freak. very much recommended.

>>738135310

Seconded, my wife says she hates when I tell her what to do, but when I raise my voice and say that's the way it's gonna be she always gets way nicer the following days, and the blowjobs are great.
People who think equality is possible in a couple are fooling themselves, one always has the last say.