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>>738049583
<3 EU boy

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>>738049583

Dick wilson best shota. Briefs best boy undies

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can you believe it's now 2017 and science STILL hasn't proven 2.5x13?

>>738049583
Is this going to be another retard fest or an actually good thread for a change?

The last one was absolutely terrible with all the anime bullshit.

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>>738050495
>shota thread
>anime bullshit

>>738050495

If people post than yea

>>738050592
>>738050382
Go fuck yourself with this bullshit, retard.

You're a fucking cancer.

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>>738049583
>>738050037
>>738050382
>>738050592
Stop posting cp

>>738050729

Kel

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daily reminder that shotas are for humiliating

>>738049583
>What are we going to do on the bed?

>>738050970
The hips on that bunny... and breedable... he fucks like a bunny.

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>>738051270
i prefer the one on the left

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>>738051661
is that what's his face from death note

>>738051717
He's not nearly cute enough to be him

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>>738051859
what can i say, they all look the same to me

>>738051717
Also, why are you so into books today?

>>738051898
>Doesn't get it
Links expression is u rn

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>>738051948
purely coincidental
except for earlier when it wasn't

>>738052024
oh i get it now

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What was your first ship, shotabros?

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>>738052182
me and you mum

>>738052182
First ship?

>>738052497
shit*

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>>738052108
This looks potentially rlly cute, will have to try and trade in some moonrunebro points for this one.

And good, all ya had to do was mello out for a moment and you'd get it.

>>738051661
I wanted to see near get fucked so bad. The show was devoid of sex so when they introduced a cute cocky shota i was like okay this kid is seducing one of his henchmen. Wasted.

>>738052398
Fuck, I need to change my answer then too.

Well played

>>738052497
First qts you wanted to have touch each other's balls

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>>738052722
there are some funny ones i found that are great without context but i think may be funnier translated

like what is happening here

>>738051497
Left is cute and would be nice for true shota but the bunny youd remember that orgasm for the rest of your life

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>>738052182
NaruSasu

Was a year or so before i realized that i was only into because of that sexy sexy fucker Naruto.

>>738052983
>Choose 5 star pic to illustrate his point
You learned your lesson, you pass with flying colours

Damn that a cocky mf

>>738052638
Also a decent otp.
Li was a major reason to watch that when I was little.
When I found out later on about her brother and the white haired guy being Canon couple in the Japanese version.
FFS
Fuck you 4kids tv editors, fuck you.

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>>738052965
And it fits their personalities perfectly, been rinko's

Maybe hey won't mind one more.

>>738052270
See me after class.

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>>738053908
>making me search for the gundam wiki to see if you meant sei's mum
do you really expect me to remember this shit

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numba 1

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>>738054479
taiwan #1

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>>738054479

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>>738054587

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>>738054619
4

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>>738054664

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>>738054772
6

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>>738054875
7. Moar?

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>>738055081
would rather you didn't

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>>738055081
Ty, but that's ok for now.

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captcha: close calle

>>738055081
Hell yeah dude

Futa/Shota is top tier

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>>738054124
I would say I am disappoint, but we both know that sentiment was depleted quite some time ago

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>>738056181
i'm more impressed these days when people aren't disappointed in me

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?

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>>738056496
??

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?!?

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?!?!

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NANI?!

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Sorry I'm late to the party - I've been waiting for my ban to expire.

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[JUST JACK]

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>>738056791
>Anon didn't just Let Go
Now you're here forever.

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aren't the matsus all like 20+

Why is it so much easier to get with lolis than it is shotas... homophobia ruined boy love :(

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>>738057073
Fucking censorship. One of these days, I swear..

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>>738057205

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>>738057205
it's actually even easier to put a 12 gauge shotgun shell in the roof of your mouth

just a suggestion for what you can do instead of molesting children

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>>738057374
Second.

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>>738057253
Yep, one day, by the time the U.N. forces global normalization standards on the Japanese to the point that Loli/ shota is illegal and acted on/enforced, then they'll probably ease off on the mosaics and bars
Problem solv-

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>>738057810
this is captain UN speaking, please stop.

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∆Faggotry -> +infinity
∆Hetero -> ?

-infinity?
Hetero?

i r confus....

>>738057810
oh cmon, globalization is so 20th century

>>738057374
>>738057485
doesnt this seem just a little bit ironic?

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>>738057933
Come on guys!
I need your help!

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>>738053207
Iknowright?

Cocky, bratty, boyish, energetic, mischievous. I think Naruto made me gay and gave me my fetishes.

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>>738058114
no not really because i hate lewd posters

>>738058147
i was never good at physics

but as fagginess approaches infinity you fucked up

>>738057374
Agreed

>>738058147
what do the little triangles mean?

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>>738058114
No, because we support gapping to art, not molesting real children.

>>738058250
but he didnt post anything lewd

>>738058291
Delta, " the change in"

>>738058250
Not physics, math

Any 3D?

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>>738058395

>>738057923
Did not notice reflection when I saw that earlier, nice.
>>738057957
Well in ways, but they are a special case, didn't help they had no penalty for possessing pizza in parts of the country until after the 20th century had been closed out, and they compete with sjw flooded eu, and surrounded by much more conservative neighbors, plus all the tortured succubus futa tentacle family reunion orgy hentai, there is serious pressure to un-japan Japan's libido

>>738058310
well some of you dont even support fapping to shota

i just think its ironic to say "whoa wanting to have relations with young boys irl is so weird lmao" while at the same time posting pics of shotas

some people would say what you are saying to him, about you, simply for posting any type of shota in the first place

>>738058599
Fapping to drawings isn't the same as child abuse. Idk how many times people have to hear that

>>738058394
so "the change in faggotry leads to positive infinity"?

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>>738058394
i'm used to seeing it in physics, like delta-t and shit

>>738058599
>relations
sexual abuse.

>>738058697
i know but some people think that simply fapping to drawings is immoral

there are even people that think that in this very thread, and that is also kind of ironic

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>>738058531
talk shit about the EU and i'll bash u irl kid

also yes the reflections are some pic that was posted in the thread

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>>738058709
"As faggotry grows to positive infinity"

In other word, if my faggotry grows constantly, how does it affect my hetero (I'm bi)?

Is my hetero unaffected?
Do the two have an inverse relationship?

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>>738059014
well considering most people aren't truly bi you're probably looking at a gradual change moving towards infinite faggotry or infinite straightnes, but it'll take some time.

>>738059014
if your gayness grew infinitesimally large your hetero would grow infinitesimally small

but i mean thats only because heterosexuality and homosexuality are opposites

i dont even think math is necessary for saying something like that

all you have to say is "one thing is infinitely big so its opposite has to be infinitely small"

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Wait, people are fapping to this?
The fuck?

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>>738059227
there are some sad people out there

>>738058114
You're wasting your breath pal.

These people are way deep into this role of pretending they're not pedophiles.

They really believe fantasizing about drawings of children makes them "normal", even though they would NEVER mention to anyone how much they enjoy it.

They know very well what they're doing, but you're really talking to ideologues here. If they ever admit fantasizing about drawings of children makes them pedophiles, their whole world collapses. They have to keep the illusion going if they want to claim moral superiority, or some shit, even though they're looked as just as low and degenerate as any other pedophile by normal people.

>>738059383
well im in the same boat, i fap to shota ( i would never touch a child )

the problem is the idea "child" what counts as a child? how young are we talking here? that is the main problem that everything else leads from, the ambiguity and disagreement about ages

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>>738059383

MODSMODAMODSMODSMODS

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>>738059227
Nigga do you even know something about shota?

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>>738059383
>They are ideologues!
>Listen to MY ideology!
Fucking idiot.

>>738059916
i really wish more people would actually talk about shit like this instead of it being so incredibly taboo that everyone just instantly picks a side

>>738059556
If you're fantasizing about children you're a pedophile.

There's no way around it, no matter how much you try to twist it to fit your distorted perception of the world.

This claim of moral superiority is just silliness that only people who agree to adopt such mindset would ever "respect". Deep down these people all know they're the scum of earth, so they try to make themselves feel better because they can't come to terms with their own pedophilia.

It's sad, really. You're watching people struggling to accept who they are because they're so scared of being labeled "monsters", so they leash onto other people, and claim to be "superior", even though they all want the exact same thing.

It's kinda sad, really.

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>>738059776

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>>738060053
>fantasising
why do you keep insisting that everybody in these threads is fantasising? fantasising about what exactly? you're projecting so much it's hilarious.

>>738060053
gtfoo here lmao, this aint moralfag 101 its 4chan, this will never leave, same with loli, youre wasting your time and while youre at it looking like a lonely bored prick, go do something more worthwhile like getting a job.

>>738059916
Not an ideology pal.

I'm merely explaining what is going on to people who are still new to the whole "shota community thing" and are not yet familiar with the idiots within, who want to twist things to make themselves feel better.

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>>738059892
Plenty

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>>738059776

>>738060034
>Communicate
>/b/
Pick one.

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>>738060053
This guys funny.

>>738060053
you sorta lost me dude, you sound more interested in persecuting people than actually helping me figure out whats going on here

being a pedo is not so bad, molesting kids is what is bad. fapping to shota isnt even at the level of being a pedo, kids and shotas dont look the same. thats all true, but there is a relationship, a correlation between "having pedo like thoughts" and "being interested in shota"

>>738060442
pretty STRANGE thing to say about a MESSAGE board

>>738060034
People need some intelligence to philosophize about such things.
One side are moral purists who just completely deny that people who consume shota can also be pedophiles and the other side are fucking edgelords who think they are right because they are more cynical. Both are retards.

>>738060297
You're an edgelord who is even worse than the guys you're shitposting against.

>>738060034
They refuse to accept because they can't come to terms with the fact that they ARE pedophiles.

They're trying their hardest to avoid it, which is why they're so strong about what they claim are their "ideals", while at the same time failing to realize everyone else around them knows pretty well what is going on.

They're lying to themselves. You can't really talk sense into someone who is trying to convince themselves of their own lies, man. You just try to understand, walk away and let them figure themselves out on their own time.

>>738060626
i think you overestimate people's reluctance to call themselves pedos

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>>738060626
i'm a paedophile for liking cute anime boys in that same way i'm a dogfucker for liking cute animals, that is to say, i'm not. you're retarded.

>>738060451
You sound desperate.

Do you need help accepting yourself, man? I'm here if you need to talk out a few things that may be bothering you. No judgments I swear.

>>738060626
You're even more stubborn. Fucking autismo.

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>>738060712
youre trying to mop up a beach. youre achieving nothing here. but please, entertain me.

>>738060703
youre right i dont think youre a pedo for liking shota, because shotas and real kids dont look the same

however (and this is where i am really focused) is there a "connection" at all between the two ideas? not a hard "causal" connection, but a correlation? is there no link between the idea of kids and liking shota at all?

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>>738060888

>>738060703
I'm pretty sure dog fuckers use the same argument to justify fucking dogs.

You're not doing yourself any favors by comparing your "kinks" to other people who have similar kinks, mate.

People who like dogs don't fantasize about kissing their dogs in the mouth.

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>>738059139
I don't see how I could be anything other than by. I love cock I love pussy and I love titties. I'm married to a woman but I jack off to gay porn.

>>738059216
I think you mean infinitely: infinitesimally means to be infinitely small.
That said, I see your point. But since I'm by doesn't that mean that I can be both infinitely gay and infinitely straight? Or does that mean that I can only be infinitely by, treating by as its own entity as opposed to a combination of gayness and straightness?

>>738060980
if youre bi you can only be bi, you can't be gay or straight

>>738060053
Oh my, this dude is total Godlike-being, totally pure and perfect! Oh man, why did I not become like him?!

Tl;dr: Asshole

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>>738060928
of course there's a connection, look how many fucking paedophiles come into these threads to try to normalise their child abuse fantasies.

>>738060972
there you go with the projection of fantasies again, please point me to someone in this thread fantasising about anime boys that ISN'T fantasising about them in a sexual way. oh wait, that doesn't happen.

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>>738060972
>>738060972
Looking at cute shota = Looking at cute dogs

is not the same like

fucking children = fucking dogs

You're embarrassing yourself.

>>738061218
even if there is a connection, i dont think it means that "people who like shota (or even fap to it) are pedos" that is way too simple

the idea of "shota" possesses within it the idea of "kid", the ideas are linked but really the question is how

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>we're 2/3 the way through the thread and we're this dumb
We may be too far out to change course before crashing

>>738061358
this is the "philosophy of shota" thread

>>738060723
I'm not stubborn, I'm just stating what is right in front of you.

It's your choice to accept reality the way it is, or twist it in order to justify the unjustifiable.

Anyone knows shotacon "fans" have pedophiliac tendencies, and only shotacon "fans" don't think that's the case because they're scared shitless that people will call them pedophiles if they admit it.

Normal people don't have the need to sexualize cartoon characters, and call them "shotas" if they don't have any sort of perverted thoughts towards the idea of having sex with kids.

If anything shotacon and lolicon are obvious gateways for actual pedophilia.

>>738061218
i think we're quick to say "liking young people isnt normal" but really aren't young people often the most beautiful? isn't it normal and healthy and human to like beauty?

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>>738061090
I think you have answered my question, bi-sexuality is its own separate thing, and should not be seen as a combination of gayness and straightness. I like that. However it does bring up another question: in the context of how Society sees me and not in terms of legitimate sexuality, reread the original question. If my faggetry approaches Infinity, does society see me as an infinite faggot? Does it affect societies views on me and being a straight person? Or do they see me as being a bisexual?

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>>738061450
Look man, you gotta understand. I don't give a shit what you post. Your showing me that your a immature little shit that most likely has no friends. Also, I don't give a fuck about your comments, when I'm home I'll delete them and block you. So here is my advise to you: Don't be a ass to people you don't know, you don't know who they are or what they are capable of. Now if you don't remove your comments, you will regret it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkIq98Mi8IQ

I dont understand why people click on the thread if it does not interest them, is it just to stir the pot once theyre in it or are they secretly into the material too? This shit happens every day, we come together as a community and share things we like, what happened to the camaraderie that used to permeate the very existence of the interwebs. I think you all need to chill, if you dont like the thread then leave. You will never change what someone likes, its pointless for you and the other person to argue, they wont change and neither will you. Instead of fighting try to understand they like things they like and leave it at that. Let it be bro. Be on your way.

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>>738061504
yes, to an extent, that's why we have age of consent laws.

>>738061339
'Shota' is a token of 'kids', not a type of it.

>>738061450
Dear Lord, you're a stubborn edgelord. You accuse others of denying reality but you just assert your own ideology without any basis. Retarded summerfags.

>>738061218
You are the one who compared shota with dog fuckers, I don't think many dog owners/lovers really post pictures of dogs hugging and kissing and touching each other's genitals thinking of how "cute" they are.

You're trying to draw parallel lines where none exist, just in an attempt to stir away from the fact that you have clear pedophiliac tendencies if you're posting drawings of children "hugging" or "touching" each other. That's a given for anyone who isn't trying to justify himself.

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>>738061415
I demand to see the Dean about the grievous errors and gaps in the curriculum then, immediately.

>>738061450
ok come off it, theres a link but its soft

if loli is a gateway for being an actual pedo then the world is about to get a shit ton of pedos in the next 10-20 years

>>738061595
>>738061595
infinity and faggot really dont make much sense if you put them together, most people just see you as gay if you are bi (in my humble experience)

>>738061692
right which vary from country to country and state to state

>>738061618
blee blee blee bloo bloo

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>>738061894

>>738061635
>what happened to the camaraderie that used to permeate the very existence of the interwebs
that's why people click on the thread if it does not interest them and beleaguer the anons

i mean i knew you were new but not this new

>tfw i started all this shit because i said i fuck lolis
Feels good

>>738061635
reminder that some of them are paid to do this.

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>>738061999
Never knew this was a two-parter ->>>738061894

>>738062241
i actually started it because i was the one who tried to "defend" you

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>>738061838
>touching each other's genitals
wow look you completely ignored the point, i hate lewd images and don't post them. and yes, people do post images of animals cuddling and being cute fucking EVERYWHERE on the internet.

>>738061595
Came so many times to that pic

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>>738062265

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Hahaha this thread has way too much redneck/egelord triggering going on,just ignore rednecks and egelords and post more shota you good people.

>>738062241
>>738062243
rlly splatters the old walls

>>738062313
do dog owners who like dogs or love dogs post pictures of dogs hugging and kissing and touching each others' genitals thinking of how "cute" they are

if so don't you think they might be lowkey dog fuckers

>>738061731
How is it an ideology?

I'm stating facts. Shotacon is merely a depiction of pedophilia, just like a greentext story is another form of representing pedophilia without actually being necessarily illegal.

Calling yourself just an "anime fan", while at the same time fantasizing about those same anime characters in romantic relationships, just isn't honest.

I don't expect honesty when it comes to people admitting their pedophiliac tendencies though, because I understand this is a very sensible subject.

The same way "straight" guys like to claim "traps aren't gay", the shotacon "fans" like to claim "shotacon isn't pedophilia".

This isn't really hard at all to understand if you're actually being honest about the subject.

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boy look at all these cute animals, guess that means i'm secretly an animal abuser and just don't want to admit it, right?

>>738062286
Aka i started it...

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>>738062415
Second that.

>>738062415
so which are you?

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>>738049583
WTF is wrong with you ppl?!

>>738062286
No, I am Spartacus!

>>738062459
its not a 1:1 depiction of pedophilia though

its maybe 1:1000

>>738062467
well no you jumped to that conclusion on your own

>>738062467
lol you might be

>>738061595
>people in this thread legitimately claim to looking at this pic and never once thinking about being there in real life.

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>>738062614
well no that's what the other anon said, posting non sexual images of cute anime boys means you're LITERALLY a paedophile but just can't admit it. obviously that means if i post cute non sexual animals that makes me an animal abuser.

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3rding, not even going to try, if it's shota when I land on it, postin

>>738062459
what would you say to the person who says "liking shota isnt the same as liking a real kid because shotas and real kids don't look the same"

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>>738062805
>3rding
what did he mean by this

>>738052801
the show was a crime drama which included strategy battles between geniuses

and you expected sex? you need to turn down the prevert knob my friend

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>>738062459
Okay, one last try:
'Pedophilia' is not an intrinsic property of 'shota'.
One does not need to follow the other.

I'm honest, but you should consider that you're too retarded to actually participate in any discussion about that topic.

And I'm gonna ignore you edglelord from now on. Pic is related. It's where you can kiss me, you illiterate faggot.

>>738062313
You're trying to make a distinction using a shitty analogy.

Shotacon is BY DEFINITION:
shotakon (uncountable)
1.A sexual complex where an adult is attracted to a young (especially underage) boy.

People posting cute animals are merely posting cute animals. Just like anime fans post anime characters posing and being cute with one another without the sexual element that is entrenched with the whole "shotacon" idea.

Unless you're talking about normal anime, or "ships" where people merely admire the art styles and the fiction elements of a production, then you're right, but if you're talking strictly shotacon, then you're talking pedophilia. PERIOD.

>>738062900
i kekd at that pic and comment

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>>738055039
I will never be able to get off to this.

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>>738062912
haha try to find a post where i call them shotas you retard, you can't, i don't call them that.

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4chan has become fumblr.... full of butthurt SJWs

>>738063051
we're not being sjws we are just talking about stuff

Just want to add, I do like shota, and I am a pedo, I'm not proud but that's who I am. Shota gives me a way of enjoying what I like without hurting the real thing.

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>>738062994
Then you have a really cramped comfort zone.

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>>738062795
Of course we fantasize about being there (although most of us fantasize about being the kid), but our fantasies stay fantasies. We don't go around in real life diddling chillins buttholes

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>>738062981

>>738062894
It was about that and it was also about flaunting misa in front of the viewer and making you think about sex, then they drop the drama when L dies and bring in a cute shota who literally solves everything instantly and the rest is him being cute playing with toys and teasing cocks. How could i not expect him to get fucked?

>>738062801
no that would make you an animal fucker not an animal abuser otherwise you would have to be a child abuser if you posted the non-sexual images
in other words a pederast
but i also think that you're a lowkey pedophile and are ashamed of it to the point at which you refuse to identify with it but feed your obsession with artistic depictions of small nubile boys

you have to remember that nobody has called you a pederast yet so your passive aggressive bawwing is pointless but for the fun of it let me call you a pederast you prederast

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>>738062313
>>738062360
>>738062467
>>738062591
>>738062801
>>738062883
>>738062994
>>738063023

Don't fight it.
You're here forever.

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>>738063188

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>>738062978

>>738063201
holy god help me

>>738063117
its ok man, like i said before "child" is a fairly ambiguous term

>>738063282
>but i also think that you're a lowkey pedophile and are ashamed of it
oh look it's more projecting and ignoring the point

>>738063182
But you would if you could. If you knew youd never be caught and the kid was "consenting" youd do it. How is this not end of conversation?

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>>738063293

>>738063377
FURRY DEGENERATE

i just want to say that i love everyone in this thread

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>>738063402
Just ignore that illiterate faggot. It's like discussing with an autist.

>>738063402
no it's more passive aggressive spittle
if anything you've projected and missed a lot of good points i just made in your favor alone
and also proven that you have thin skin and are actually insulted or threatened any time i call you a pedophile to the point of potentially sincere bawwing

it's like you might actually be a pedophile

>>738063431
thats not true man

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>>738054596
More shota naruto please

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>>738063573

>>738063573
it's like discussing with a deranged mentally handicapped child molester
oh wait

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>>738063665

>>738063182
>being the kid
Fuck yessss i used to play with my brother and cousins all the time so shotas getting fucked is just nostalgia to me

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>>738063671
Don't upgrade to a salty faggot. Nobody likes sore losers.

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>>738063474
I actually really love gay Cubs stuff, so I have a ton of it. Sorry, that picture just seemed to fit.

I would be posting faster, but I'm on the road in a rainstorm and I don't have my 4chan pass anymore.

:-\

>>738063627
Youre telling me if you and a cute shota were the last two people on earth you wouldnt try anything? Whatever you say.

>>738058531
This is true actually, Japan used to be the world's top provider of genuine CP, because it was legal until like '99. They were the provider of more than 80% of the world's child porn, and almost half their porn websites (this was the 90s, so thats only like 3000) had CP on them. Fucking crazy how different it is from western culture.

source:
https://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2054271,00.html

>>738063431

No, never. I don't want to get raped in jail no matter how little the risk.

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>>738062480
Neither i'm just here for the shota, shits good for my depression.

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>>738063767
/r/ing new thread with qts like this

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fuck you guys, i'm finally going to sleep.

>>738063852
im saying that there is no "necessary connection" between fucking little boys and liking shota

>>738063898
LIE

you know what they say, if youre at a poker table and you dont know who the sucker is, the sucker is probably you

>>738063931
DONT DO IT

>>738063931
Good night

>>738062894
Butt turning the prevert knob downwards only makes it harder, and stickier

>>738063431
Because I don't want to Diddle Kids, I want to be a kid being diddled, so the idea that you're putting out doesn't even appeal to me. Even if I was into it though, I understand that children, by definition, cannot consent. Fantasies are fantasies. Are you saying that people with rape fantasies, which is actually very common, would absolutely right people given the chance? I highly doubt they all would.

>>738064199
>doubt they all would
so what are you saying

>>738064199
>738062894
you could also give the "cuck" example

lots of "cucks" simply like the fantasy and would never actually let their wife fuck another guy

GOOD THREAD BROS

>>738063201
Sauce????

>>738064477
its from a short film

go on gelbooru and look you'll find it

>>738063931
In that order?
Night, don't worry, I won't delete posts to counter cap this time.
Promise.

we need a new thread

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/06/new-jersey-teacher-sexually-assaulted-teen-adopted-court-documents-say.html

>>738065768
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>>738064199
>I don't want to Diddle Kids
That's a lie.

If you're fantasizing about children having sex, it doesn't matter how you try to paint it, you're a pedophile.

It doesn't matter if you're fucking the child, if the child is fucking you, if YOU are the child being fucked, it doesn't matter, you're fantasizing about children having sex, and that's the DEFINITION of pedophilia.

You're really doing some mental gymnastics to explain yourself for something that doesn't really require explanation, you either ARE a pedophile and have sexual fantasies about children, or you're NOT a pedophile and even the thought of children having sex kid of weirds you out and makes you feel sick.

If the idea of children having sex doesn't make you feel sick, but actually arouses you, you're a pedophile. It doesn't matter if it's just the drawing of children or if it's just a movie of a child, or a picture, or a real child, the idea behind it is that you're sexually objectifying a child. Plain and simple.

>>738065953
I'm not gonna feed you mister troll.
Toodles.

>>738063273
>not reading the manga
dude just leave 4chan already

>>738063746
greentext now

>>738065953
>>738065953
>Overcompensation: The Post.

Me thinks thou doth protest too much, anon. What other dude said was reasonable and made sense.

>>738066201
I know....
But at least my wife and I do ageplay. Sometimes I'm able to get into little-kid-being-molested-by-his-mom headspace. That's really nice.

>>738066164
Then be my guest. I never expect a pedophile to admit he's a pedophile under any circumstances, why would you be any different?


Every single pedophile tries to justify his desires as something "normal", it really doesn't come as a surprise to me when some people use the "it's just a drawing" excuse as well as "it's just a video" or any other.

>>738066463
I am a pedophile though, I know that.
I just don't see any moral problem with it so long as I don't act on my fantasies.

New thread?

New thread
>>738066789

>>738066625
That's the same excuse all pedophiles who hoard child pornography use to justify themselves.

I'm not a lawyer, nor am I a moral crusade, but trying to claim pedophilia isn't pedophilia just because you want to feel better about yourself is just dishonesty.

Blame the media for the feeding into the hysteria, not me for spreading their message.

>>738066938
How am I being dishonest? I'm agreeing that I am a pedophile.
The only place we disagree is that you believe it to be morally wrong and I do not.
Because this is a debate of opinion, nobody will budge. Therefore, end of argument. You can fuck off now that we are at a stalemate.

>>738064199
>children can't consent
lol at your deluded brain

>>738067164
I never expressed my thoughts on the subject. I merely stated the facts and what is widely known and common knowledge in regards to pedophilia and shotacon.

You don't know what I think or my stances over the subject whatsoever.

>>738067299
It's in the definition of consent dude. Look it up.
Note that I'm talking about consent from a legal and moral standpoint, not a literal one. Of course a kid can say "jerk me off mister!", But they cannot legally consent.

>>738067451
Is it true that murder is always wrong because the law says so?

You need to stop being so trapped inside the box dude.

>>738067388
It's very obvious what your thoughts are on the matter. Just because you haven't explicit stated then doesn't mean they aren't implied simply by your presence in this thread and your "point".
Regardless, there is no argument left so kindly fuck off please.

>>738067607
You are correct, but most children cannot consent as they aren't mature enough. Some certainly can, but a line needs to be drawn. If there are some stragglers left on the wrong side then so be it. I'd rather make a few kids who are mature enough to fuck wait a few years than left kids who aren't mature enough be taken advantage of.

>>738067607
>Is it true that murder is always wrong because the law says so
yes because that is what a law is

>>738067809
But someone had to define 'law', where did he get the idea that killing people is wrong?

>>738067809

law is not ethics

laws are made with ethics in mind, after all. "being ethical" is the goal of laws, unless we mean of course some kind of "natural moral law", but a "natural moral law" is not the same as a legislature and a senate and etc.

>>738068146
probably when killing whoever you felt like started causing problems in the community like more killing and nobody to tend to the crops or animals or legal tender or fires or do math

probably that

>>738068525
law is not ethics but as you have said laws are dependent upon ethics and are thus crafted from the result of ethics being discerned by the society at large
and so if being ethical is the goal of laws, murder is wrong because the law says so, because you live in a society that entertains those kinds of ethics such that they would entertain the law that relies on those ethical principles

murder isn't anything in nature so of course murder is bad if you look to the law
the law says murder is bad because murder is bad in the eyes of society
thus it is true that murder is always wrong because the law says so because if you take away the law and the concept of ethics you have raw nature that posesses no innate qualities of
>good
or
>bad
or
>rightness
or
>wrongness

>>738068942
murder cant always be wrong, because like you said it depends on the eyes of society

all that is required in your scheme for a murder to be just is if the society where it occurs thinks its just, if the society thinks murder is just, then it is. but if murder were really "always wrong" then it WOULDNT DEPEND ON THE VIEW OF SOCIETY OR OF MAN

>>738069573
murder is always wrong if the law says so

>>738067607
>Is it true that murder is always wrong because the law says so
read that shit
read it
it says
exactly
>because the law says so
so if the damn hypothetical law you make reference to says that murder is bad
the damned law says murder is bad
murder is bad because the law says so
why
because it's a law and you're regarding it in a scenario where society acts upon it

christ

>>738070239
Law is more like guidelines, you follow it, you are fine, you don't follow it, you end in trouble if you dont know better

>>738070637
would you like your crayons back

>>738070239
>a scenario where society acts upon it
*this* society.

>>738067807
At what numbered age does one cease to be a 'child'?

>>738068942
is the individual bound into thinking of wrong within the ethical lines drawn by society? Even if it affects you adversely to disobey laws and do wrong, there is nothing that can define 'wrong' on an individual level.

We might TRY to loosely bind together some codex of 'do's and 'don't's, but you cannot monitor every individual, even now, to make sure they adhere to the law. More people 'get away with it' than are caught. Laws are like a feeble cry into the night to stop being dark.

>>738070637
>>738070870
he's stupid but don't ignore the validity in that. just address it if you're so much better.

>>738070239
no, murder is always ILLEGAL if the law says so, the law doesnt determine morality as we already said

if you say "when i say wrong i mean illegal and not in a moral sense" then ok, but even then you still can't say "murder is always unethical"

>>738070870
With pleasure

>>738071364
this IS a shota thread after all!

>>738071095
>is the individual bound into thinking of wrong within the ethical lines drawn by society
>there is nothing that can define 'wrong' on an individual level
when you do something bad do you feel bad
do you have things you would never do at the risk of feeling bad
these are morals
sometimes they exist for people

>you cannot monitor every individual
>Laws are like a feeble cry into the night to stop being dark
great we agree

>he's stupid but don't ignore the validity in that
>just address it if you're so much better
it has already been addressed

>>738071289
>no
you nigger
read you nigger read
read

>>738067607
>Is it true that murder is always wrong because the law says so
>murder is always wrong
>law says so
>law
>murder
>wrong
>wrong
>law
>>738068942
>it is true that murder is always wrong because the law says so
>law says so
>wrong
>>738070239
>if the damn hypothetical law you make reference to says that murder is bad
>says that murder is bad
>murder is bad
>why
>because
>law you make reference to says that murder is bad

i wonder what kind of interpretation you should choose
is it
>when i say wrong i mean illegal and not in a moral sense
it's probably that one right
probably maybe could be
it's like i haven't mentioned morals until just right now
really makes you think

and you can say murder is always unethical if there is a law is dictating exactly this

>>738072156
when you say something is wrong, you make an ethical claim, not a legal one

>>738049583
>>>/co/93682264

>>738067807
Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.

Old enough to count, old enough to mount.

>>738072156
if i make a law that says "no triangle has 3 points" is it true just because its a law?

>>738072156
what if we have two laws that contradict each other?

>>738072290
>Actual pedophile comes in to ruin the thread
Fuck. Thanks for trying anon. That thread isnt going to last long.

>>738072261
>ethical claim
>legal one
what is a law

>>738072523
yes
because that law is redefining what is and isn't a triangle
with that law in effect anything that can be a triangle cannot have 3 points
i don't see how this is hard to grasp
you made a hypothetical law defining something and you purport that in this hypothetical it is regarded completely as it is a made law that goes into effect and is regarded as an actual law
of course it's true in that scenario
what exactly would not be true about a hypothetical scenario where there is a law forbidding triangles from having 3 points
so either there are following laws that redefine what a triangle is and isn't, or triangles no longer exist and are can only be illegally depicted as having 3 points
or are the descriptors of shapes abstractions at best

>>738072727
then you have two laws that contradict eachother

>>738071289
>>738071289
It would be nice if BOTH of you looked up the word "murder", it's "To kill with malice aforethought." Malice is the intention or desire to do evil; ill will. That is what the difference between murder and manslaughter is. Both are killing which is the word I think you two should use.

Kiplings "Law of the Jungle" says: Kill ONLY to eat or to avoid being eaten. Killing is sometimes wrong or right. Murder is always wrong.

>>738073007
a law in the sense that we are talking about is basically an agreement between people

>>738073007
what defines a triangle isnt a law like what we were talking about, a legal law

>>738073007
isn't that a problem? how do we know its a contradiction?

>>738073198
all im trying to do is show this poor man ethics

Testing 1 2 3

>>738073261
>what defines a triangle isnt a law like what we were talking about, a legal law
so why exactly is there
>>738072523
>if i make a law that says "no triangle has 3 points" is it true just because its a law
and furthermore why can we not enforce a legal law that prevents triangles from having 3 points
it's a legal law
remind me what legal laws entail when they are being interpreted by the state

>isn't that a problem? how do we know its a contradiction
we don't really know because all that was said was that there were two laws that contradicted one another
so
there are two laws
that contradict one another
gee i wonder
what happens when two laws contradict one another
i guess they

contradict one another

>>738073545
how exactly would you enforce a law like that?

well both of the laws can't be true if they both contradict each other, so laws can't always be true

if you have an either or choice between one or the other, both chooses can't be true

>>738073545
>what happens when two laws contradict one >another
>i guess they

>contradict one another
Goodness you are pedantic.

>>738073261
>>738073198(Me)
Please just stop. Your replies are irksome at best.