Thanks a bunch, Trumpkins, for ruining our once-great country.

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Someone's butthurt.

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He must fart constantly. Imagine the smell.

Why the fuck are the liberals and the conservatives on this site so fucking stupid, there's no middle ground here

>inb4 Russia Trump Defense Bot spams the thread

>>737881000
The intent is to divide

>Foundations of Geopolitics, a textbook for the Russian politburo teaches: "Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics."

u mad. i glad.

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How did the USA defeat Russia in the space race? Is it simply because Americans are more intelligent and work harder than Russians?

>>737880855
Hell, imagine how he smells even when he's not farting. Rancid aftershave, flop sweat, and McDonald's.

Hey, maybe that's why Melania refuses to touch him.

>>737881145
Этo нe пpoблeмa, и вы дoлжны вepнyтьcя к peгyляpным вocпoминaниям

>>737881556
English motherfucker do you speak it

>>737880855
You guys are *REALLY* obsessed with this guy...

>>737881780
I know right he's just the president of the USA I mean big deal right who cares? It's not like he makes decisions every day which affect the lives of almost everyone on earth or anything.

>>737881921

Name one thing he has done so far that has directly affected you in any meaningful way.

>>737882003
This

>>737880707
Hmmm still seems pretty great to me. Better even.

This generation needed a world war

>>737881921
>affect the lives of almost everyone on earth

LMAO

>>737881300
We captured more German scientists than they did.

I'll be voting for him again.

Also....CNN can lick my taint.

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>>737882003
>>737882069
Bombed Syrian government forces ensuring that America will never be able to align with the only faction that might ever stabilize it which will result in us continuing to spend my tax money on endless bullshit there.

Are you really so fucking retarded that you don't think the president does anything? Then why are you in this thread? Just go back to masturbating to tranny porn and stop wasting people's time with your moronic bullshit.

>>737880855
Let's get real. He smells like the most expensive and finest colognes on the planet.

>>737882193

Thousands upon thousands of people working on space projects, but 100% of the credit from dipshit internet faggots in 2017 goes to a few dozen Germans. Get fucked.

>>737882003
He, McConnell, and Ryan are doing everything they can to kill my mother by cutting her Medicare. That work for you?

Or how about putting Gorsuch on the Supreme Court in the hope of driving my gay friends back into the closet?

Or making Betsy DeVos Secretary of Education so that she can destroy the public schools that educate my kids?

Shall I go on?

>>737882332
>the only faction that might ever stabilize it
It's so nice to see someone with a more realistic view of Syria.

>>737882414
With an undertone of stale ass sweat and sharts

>>737882003
Obama was good to Wall Street, but my stocks and 401K have been even better since Trump was elected last November. The plant I work at is also hiring 200+ since we canceled production transfers to Mexico.

Remains to be seen how much this is going to end up directly affecting me, but I like his Supreme Court pick. Hope he gets one or two more.

>>737882457
Whole middle east is such a shitshow, I'm convinced that strong dictators is actually what they need right now. Arab spring was a huge mistake.

>>737882332
You fap to anime and f5 on interweb image forum at midnight on holidays. your economic and political footprint is microscopic. stop pretending that a bombing mission in syria affects your insignificant life in the midwest somewhere. stupid fuck.

>>737882620
It's funny because you missed with every swing

>>737880707
The only thing that has happened is less regulations and less lobbying. Sorry we cant have imaginary socialism as our form of economy

>>737882447
>Shall I go on?

Please don't. We get it - Trump and his underlings are going to destroy the world! Fucking tard.

>>737882003
Oh, and let us not forget that Mexicans, both legal and not, are fleeing the country out of fear of his immigration policies, which is already driving up food prices because white Americans won't work in the fields.

>>737882729
>less lobbying
haha! no.

>>737882808

Oh shit strawberries cost 1 cent more per truckload! Trump is destroying the universe!

>>737882775
>Gets evidence
>Ignores evidence
>Calls anon a tard
Welcome to 4Chan

>>737882808

lol, oh no, you mean people that are here illegally, i.e. criminals, are afraid that the guy in charge is going to punish them for their crimes by enforcing long standing laws? Trump = literally Hitler.

>>737882447
I'm sure your mother got by without medicare long before trump was in office, and if she truly needed it, you dont have to worry.
Society will drive your gay friends back into the closet, not the government.

>>737880707
>once-great

Where the fuck have you been for the last 10+ years?

>>737881780
No kidding dude. My fucking god.

>>737881921
Hasn't affected me in any way.

Why are you liberal fucking weirdos so obsessed with him?

>>737882863
Didnt he ban people lobbying the us on behalf of a foreign government?

>>737882930

That wasn't evidence. No healthcare legislation has been signed that's going to hurt dear old mum. The 2nd 2 were just sensationalist "my guy didn't win, therefore the universe is gonna collapse" bullshit.

>>737882775
Hey, you asked for how he's affecting me personally, and I gave you examples. Don't go yelling about a strawman now.

>>737883184
This

ITT: lol

>for ruining our once great country.

underage b&

>>737883184
Not signed, removed with no replacement

>>737883327
Hes moving to repeal obamacare not medicaid you tard

>>737883031
You are utterly full of shit. I'm just trying to figure out if you know it and are just trolling, or don't and are just stupid.

>>737882447
Gorsuch will actually rule by what the Constitution says rather than pull stuff out of his ass to promote an agenda. DeVos was a great choice, too - I live in Michigan and her work for vouchers and school choice has been a godsend.

You mean the hospital is going to eat the bill for taking care of your mother since they can't legally turn people away, right? And it's not like she can't get on medacaid or state-funded programs, right? If something isn't done to replace Obamacare the whole system is going down the toilet, who's fault will it be then?

I bet your mother is healthier than me with all kinds of insurance, you're just talking shit because you're still in denial over the election.

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>>737880707
I prefer my view of Drumpf than yours...just sayin

>>737883182
Yes he did, with exceptions.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1354/place-lifetime-ban-white-house-officals-lobbying-f/
But he also hired tons of them.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/06/21/president-donald-trump-lobbyists-hired/416749001/
It's hard to say whether what he's done will discourage lobbyists from influencing the government long term or not, I should give it a chance.

>>737883184
Personally speaking Obamacare ("affordable care act hurrr") destroyed my chance at ever receiving affordable health care. It is not in the cards any longer.

How can Trump possibly be any worse than Obama?

Keep in mind they are both puppets on the same string. They don't make any real decisions. If they were truly independent they'd get assassinated by the powers that be pretty quick. Just like JFK.

>>737882141
We are gearing up for a war with North Korea. You realize that, right?

You understand that Trump's inflammatory rhetoric, his attempts to support isolationist political movements throughout Europe, and his anti-journalist and pro-censorship attempts to turn a country against factual data and credible sources, mimic the propaganda techniques of the Nazi socialist system. That he carries with him not a shred of evidence to back up his facetious claims, but lies boldly and constantly, because the lies he spouts makes his base feel better about themselves at the expense of a minority. He decries any facts which disagree with his rhetoric, and repeats self-aggrandizing falsehoods borne from the hard work of political adversaries, because those who listen to him don't care about whether he is in fact just an insecure illiterate septuagenarian since a lie they can get behind is so much easier than a difficult truth.

Manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. Trickle-down economics has never once worked, and the rich do not freely spend their money at a loss to support the poor. A free market that demands tort reform is an oxymoron. And clean energy isn't going to destroy our precious wind and sun reserves, no matter how little you understand it.

>>737883031
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>>737882414
>>737882482
This. He needs the one because of the other.

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>>737883544
Oh does this thread bother you? Did you want us to stop posting in it?

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>>737883448
>point of view
>incredibly small detail
>useless by self
>requires someone with a wider view to be effective

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>>737880707

>>737883388
I'm trying to figure out if you actually believe taking away obamacare will hurt medicaid. They're two separate things you tard.

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>>737880707

>>737883327
>Not signed, removed with no replacement

Not signed, and not repealed. Not one person can claim that something Trump has done has affected their healthcare status.

>>737883428
Actually, my mother is 69, has severe heart damage from a major heart attack a few years ago, and is entirely dependent on Medicare and Medicaid. Hell, she's in the hospital right now because she had chest pains this morning. Paid for by Medicare.

So you can go fuck yourself, you heartless fucking bastard.

Honestly, for the first time in my life I'm fucking ashamed to be an American, and people like you are the reason.

>>737883637
>>737883487
Thanks for the other article, I tend to not go on usa a lot. Not biased I just have no reason to.

>>737883765
Jesus Christ man. Educate yourself before you have that argument with that guy. Do you not have the fucking internet? Took me 2 minutes to look it up. You're embarrassing yourself.
http://time.com/money/4649499/donald-trump-wants-to-cut-medicaid-heres-what-the-program-actually-does/

>>737883841
Yeah, MEDICAID and MEDICARE. Not Obamacare. Ffs theyre two different things

>>737883521
North Korea isn't really a threat dude so that doesn't affect your day-to-day in any way at all.

Manufacturing jobs going away are corporations' fault. Has nothing to do with either Trump or Obama.

>>737883841
You should be angry at Obamacare for making insurance impossibly expensive for most Americans. I used to have insurance on my mom's plan but since the price tripled none of us have healthcare anymore.

>>737883969
Obamacare tripled the cost of everything healthcare related, even prescriptions. Everything.

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you know what's funny, if it had been the other way around and Hillary won, we'd see the occasional anti-Hillary thread but it wouldn't be an hourly occurrence.

I almost want to go and put my tin foil hat on because it does seem like there are progressive shills, or at the very least some extreme butthurt individuals with nothing else to complain about.

before you start in on me
>I am a registered democrat
>I did not vote for Trump
>I do not like Trump

really any time of day, there's a whining/crying/bullshitting thread about Trump.

Well, he has done more than the obama-nation

>>737883969
Agreed with >>737883955. Educate yourself or STFU.

>>737882808
Well then get your ass out there, and start picking.

>>737884044
>triples the cost of everything
They're really this retarded folks. Let's give him a big hand.

>>737883955
This is saying he's putting in set money amounts, making plans less flexible. Not repealing it all together. Different thing.

>>737884144
This site has vastly more pro-Trump threads than anti-Trump threads.

>>737883489
The ACA was a plan first suggested by a Conservative think tank called the Heritage Foundation. http://www.heritage.org/report/s1936-the-chafee-bill-step-toward-health-care-reform
In 1993, the bill was introduced to the Senate, but did not receive enough votes to make it through the process.

The two major amendments to the bill which was added to the ACA was an expanded Medicare program and a plan to actually pay for the thing.

In point of fact, on a State level, the type of coverage offered by the ACA was enacted successfully in Massachusetts, by a Mr. Mitt Romney. And the health care act made it through a Republican controlled House and Senate before being signed into law.

>>737884327
lol
lurk more

>>737884251
Obamacare was a disaster, even Hillary agreed

If OP was baiting, he did fucking good, and i applaud him

>>737884409
I didn't say it was good, but anyone who thinks that the cost of health care tripled in the past 8 years seriously has no idea what they're talking about. These are the kinds of "facts" Trump supporters seem to operate on most of the time.

>>737884251
I saw the number on the fucking premium stupid. It was triple. used to be $300/month now $900.

Are you fucking stupid?

>>737884359
Not really sure all I know is it made it prohibitively expense for all of us. We are all without insurance now.

>>737881300
More along the lines of "we lost the space race in every regard, so we've moved the finish line to the moon" but ya know

>>737884409
Agreed. The way to change our health care for the better is with the original plan: a single payer healthcare system. All this ridiculous open market nonsense leaves insurance agencies with the ability to rack up prices to an absurd degree. Just take the god damn cost out of our taxes and give us access to free fucking hospitals already.

>>737884570
One premium went up (you claim) and you think that every single person's health care in America tripled? You know it would take you like 60 seconds to look that up and find out you're wrong don't you?

>>737884558
I will admit, I am a Trump supporter, but you are right, most Trump supporters operate on false facts, but so do Hillary supporters, humans in general love to think that something wrong is actually true.

>>737884654
The finish line was always the moon. If Russia won the space race then Atlanta won last year's superbowl.

>>737884247
Last year some ag companies in California did an experiment: they tried to hire non-immigrants to work in the fields. IIRC, they were offering $15/hour with benefits, which is far more than usual, and there's no way they could do it on a regular basis.

They did not get a single applicant.

>>737884670
There are actually free hospitals, but the care from them is bad, they are funded by the government, but not nearly as much as top notch hospitals.

>>737884558
Okay so when i see our premium triple with my own eyes on the bill they used to send us clearly it's some kind of lie?

The health insurance was lying to me about our premium being $900+? Are you seriously this fucking stupid? Do you even have health insurance? Did you see the effect of Obamacare firsthand yourself?

Shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.

>>737884705
A lot of people pretty much everywhere were saying the same thing. Yahoo, random forums, 4chan, everyone at my school, my professors complained about it. Everyone I knew.

If you didn't experience it yourself, then you need to shut the fuck up.

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>>737884722
Our brains latch on to information that is concise and pleases us. This last election has made me really think humans are incredibly primitive. I understand now why masses have been easy to manipulate by ISIS, Hitler, whatever over history. We just lack the ability to deal with the complexity of the world.

>>737884670
If you think tax funded free hospitals are great take a look at the VA

>>737884874
One person's bill tripling doesn't mean that everyone's bill tripled. You said:
>Obamacare tripled the cost of everything healthcare related, even prescriptions. Everything.
Are you standing by that? I really wish we could put some money down on it.

>>737884779
This is California, not a state like Iowa, where people would gladly take that offer.

>>737880707

Trump's a fucking fat ass jew faggot. Grats, you retards. you elected an orange faced mongoloid to the presidency.

>>737884943
This is true, and I believe your point.

>>737885066
Yep. Pills for depression costed about triple after a year of Obamacare. Everything went way way up.

I stand behind it because I saw it firsthand myself.

People who had no insurance to compare prices to pre-obamacare should have no say in the matter. They're just spouting liberal lies and rhetoric. Fuck off seriously.

Obamacare made me lose my insurance so I'm fucked if I I get a work injury now.

>>737884874
>In 2008, the average employer-sponsored family plan cost a total of $12,680, with employees footing $3,354 of the bill, according to Kaiser data. By 2016, the cost of the average employer family plan was up to $18,142 for the year, with workers picking up $5,277 of the tab.

http://time.com/money/4503325/obama-health-care-costs-obamacare/

>>737885101


It was Georgia. And they were offering $20 an hour and they got applicants, but they all quit in half a day.

In the end, millions worth of crops just rotted in the fields because they couldn't get anyone to harvest it.

The next year, they dragged their prisoners out there and made them do it.

yay white slavery

>>737885248
>I can't pay for insurance
>It's Obama's fault!
Why can't you take personal responsibility for your own problems instead of blaming everything on the government?
Anyway it's stupid, you can get insurance if you want. Ridiculous.

>>737885101
Except that California grows roughly half the nation's produce, which means that a labor shortage there has a far greater effect on food prices. Iowa can't pick up the slack.

>>737880707
doesn't matter who's president, the system is fucked up at it's core.
we've got two groups of people that can't agree on single fucking issue. the president is the least of our concerns.

>>737880707
your country has never been better, stop your bitching

>>737885248

Yea obamacare is not great and if anyone regardless of party comes up with a better one im all for it. But right now the healthcare bill proposed by the GOP is nothing more then a terrorist attack for profit by corrupt fucks.

>>737885248
fuck off anecdote

>>737885321
Shitty propaganda as far as I'm concerned. Just like the "4%" unemployment rate hurrrr.

My experience and the experience of everyone I know was much more expensive.

Fuck Time, CNN, CBS, and all those other fake news sites. I will not believe a word they say.

>>737885450
Not really Obama's fault. He's just a puppet and I doubt he had any idea what the bill contained. It's greedy medical insurance companies' fault for bribing the bill's way into office.

Also they started stealing our tax refund for not having medical insurance. Obamacare is just another tax.

>>737885608
To be honest I don't think it's Obama or Trump. It's just greedy pieces of shit running the insurance companies.

>>737885625
Fuck off gullible propagandist drone.

>>737885550
I have to admit you are right. Trump isn't really doing much that any other GOP president wouldn't have done, other than send out retarded tweets and be embarrassing on a daily basis. Nothing radical will happen. Deep state remains the same and things will shift only slightly until the blue team takes it back and shifts it slightly again. As long as he doesn't start any wars he really is irrelevant. Hopefully they just stick him on twitter and ignore him for the rest of his time in office like they have so far.

>>737885450
>you can get insurance if you want

Only if you can afford the plans that are available. Otherwise, your access is purely theoretical.

Of course, you being a Trumpkin, you'd probably be just fine if everyone who couldn't pay out of their own pocket just curled up and died. Just so long as YOU don't have to chip in.

>>737885321
If time is openly admitting that obamacare increased rates by 30%+ then you can imagine how much of a fucking disaster is really was in reality. I believe he is right when he says it tripled.

>>737885424
> implying prisoners were white

>>737885712
>anything that doesn't agree with my retarded worldview is a lie
You're a moron and you should be embarrassed.

>>737885764
If you can't afford it there are subsidies. MORE people can get insurance now than could before. You're not trying or you're just spending your money on stupid crap and being a whinybaby victim. That's fine. Don't get insurance. Hope you get bankrupted. Fuck you.

>>737880707
If you think that a country is made or broken by one man then you are a fucking weak ass faggot.