Donald J. Trump hasactually been a pretty good president thus

> been a pretty good president thus far.

At what?

BUT MUH RACISM! MUH HOMOPHOBIA! MUH ISLAMOPHOBIA! MUH MISOGYNY!

>>737679414
Being President, retard.

Imagine being this stupid.

>>737679460
and what things does "being president" entail, that's he's done well?

how diplomatic has he been in meetings of the global leaders?
how much more stable is the geopolitical map with him in charge?
what is the public opinion of him, domestically, and internationally?

>>737679778
>how diplomatic has he been in meetings of the global leaders?

About as diplomatic as an autistic ferret

>how much more stable is the geopolitical map with him in charge?

Probably less stable. depends on which region.

>what is the public opinion of him, domestically, and internationally?

According to Gallup, he's at 37% approval as of yesterday. Has yet to come close to breaking even.

Internationally, only 22% have confidence in him, according to Washington Post.

>>737679778
>Slew of deregulating executive orders assisting the economy
>asserting American hegemony back over the world
>withdrew from Paris Climate accord, which was effectively a tax imposed on Americans by a foreign entity (even officials at the accord agreed that there was no evidence to support taxation as an effective means of curving the supposed catastrophic effects of green house gases.)
>travel ban upheld by the Supreme Court
>Now moving in favor of a total repeal of Obamacare, inaction is at the fault of Congress

how diplomatic has he been in meetings of the global leaders?
>he's not letting them walk over us like Obama. I don't get why Americans want a weak willed president
>supporting measures to ensure NATO members pay an equal share instead of the American tax payer funding a grand majority of European forces while NATO nations spend money that would have gone towards to defense on their welfare programs (Americans are no longer going to support European welfare states with their tax dollars, at least not as much)

how much more stable is the geopolitical map with him in charge?
>it wasn't stable at all before him
>its not less stable with him
>North Korea has been the focus in terms of coercion

what is the public opinion of him, domestically, and internationally?
>publicly? depends on if you listen to the bullshit from the media
>internationally? Like who the fuck cares what idiots abroad think. The world wants a weakened America and Obama gave that to them. No mas and fuck Mexico.

>>737680621
>even officials at the accord agreed that there was no evidence to support taxation as an effective means of curving the supposed catastrophic effects of green house gases

>citation needed

>>737680621
how diplomatic has he been in meetings of the global leaders? (cont.)
>seriously, the rest of the world is full of socialist globalists that are actively engaging in population replacement in Europe. Fuck the rest of the world. European leaders are disastrous. Canada has the king of all cucks at the helm. North Korea and the Chinese have nutjobs running the East.

>>737680824
college isn't for everyone.

>>737680621
>Paris Accord

Dude. Even North Fucking Korea has signed it. The only places that haven't are Nicaragua, because it doesn't go far enough to protect the environment, and Syria, for obvious reasons. Why does being ass backward benefit us?

I've seen little evidence that Trump is anything but a regular GOP President. The only difference is that he's just more loud about it.

>>737680953
>inb4 muh sovereignty

it was non-binding.

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>>737680953
There isn't an effective instrument to enforce measures within the accord. North Korea signed it because they expect America to take the lead in reducing its energy capacity while the rest of the world does fuck all and continues its industries.

Yes he is a great President

Imagine how wonderful the God Emperor would be if the entire unelected deep state bureaucracy wasn't trying to hamstring his administration.

NO MORE UNELECTED LEECHES!

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>>737681635

>>737680391
Gallup and Washington Post.. Lol

I disagree but I respect your opinion

>>737681143
Who's titties are these?

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>>737680900
>still thinks a college education is worth anything anymore

You people just don't get it, do you?

>>737681635
>entire unelected deep state bureaucracy
>just learned the term "deep state" three weeks ago

>>737681719
>Gallup and Washington Post.. Lol
>Sources I don't like so they must be wrong

>FTFY

>>737681719
Non-biased exemplars of objective journalism.

>>737681669

>>737681820
Not an argument

>>737679460
IMAGINE MWI SHAWK

>>737681877
Those polls assuring that Clinton was going to win the election were spot on too, weren't they? Not polling a +7 Democrat audience or anything like that

>>737681955
sure it is. You think there is such a thing as a deep state because either someone told you Steve Bannon thinks there is one, or Alex Jones screamed it at you in a fit of autistic rage

>>737682189
not how polling works faggot.

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>>737682238
That also isn't an argument

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>>737681816

FUCK OFF TO /pol/

Trump threads are cancer

>>737681816
College rules, fuck off dipshit

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>>737679332
Thanketh thy lord Trump for granting us safety from the disgusting sub-human brown people from across the vast ocean. May euro-fags be blessed with a quick recovery.

>>737682238
Literally not an argument. You didn't disprove the claim, rather you attacked the source that you assumed for the claim. You're an idiot if you don't understand that the remnants of the Obama administration is at war with the current democratically elected regime.

That's what we call bullshit.

>>737679416
Are you from tumblr or just a newfag?

>>737682312
That's just the methodology used by those particular polls. The only poll that was consistently right about the election was Rasmussen.

inb4 the chink bitch poster makes an appearance in this thread..

>>737682371
/b/ is for random

There are a large variety of threads available on /b/. If you're offended by one of them, ignore it and hide it. I'm sorry if it got in the way of your trap threads, faggot.

>>737682413
>college debts are in the upwards of 1 trillion dollars
>most college kids are struggling to find jobs

Are you seriously this dense? If you had any talent, start a business.

>>737682481
The Eurofags need to learn from their mistakes lest this happen again.

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>>737682835
>college is only valuable if it gets you a job
>only expensive ass schools are worth going to
https://youtu.be/WmgHAT7IdDQ

Congrats! You're part of the cancer. College rules because education and study are valuable in and of themselves.

>>737682481
This
No brown in my town

>>737683245
College is literally only valuable if it gets you a job

What good would spending 100k on a majority of compulsory electives that serve nothing to your career yet simultaneously indoctrinate the youth into bullshit like gender studies. Colleges are indoctrination camps. The few good ones are private.

>College rules because education and study are valuable in and of themselves.
This is why you'll be poor for the rest of your life. If you want to learn something, read a book. Don't spend 100,000 dollars on a waste of time when you could be building a business or a career. Its all about opportunity cost and any degrees outside of stem are not worth the time.

>>737683245
No one wants to listen to our shit mixtape kid

>>737683251
No more population displacement politics. 14 words

>>737683592
And assuming you never took an economics course, opportunity cost is the implicit cost of what you could be doing with the time you spend on any action, such as college.

The explicit cost of college is outrageous in itself, but the opportunity cost practically doubles the expenses.

>>737683245
See
>>737683592
&
>>737683786

>>737682481
This worthless uneducated dumbshit is also a pussy ass coward who thinks Europe is in some crisis that fat fake president pussyhands can solve. kek he's the biggest fail ever

>>737683592
Sounds like someone had a shitty college experience. I'm able to study medieval literature, Roman history, and political philosophy with people who actually give a shit about what humanity creates instead of just what the fuck they do for a job. Being able to talk critically with people is the only thing that really matters.

And worst case scenario? I become a teacher and survive fine.

Canadians for TRUMP. MAGA MCGA!

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if we can lulz a president into office we could lulz into ww3.i mean we got close into trolling qatar into a fight with the saudi's.think of it.....a world wiped clean of iniquity and hasbro.the nation-states crumbling under 10000 nuclear suns.and as millions die and look up to us screaming "why" we will answer by raising our hands to the heavens.AND THEN GOD HIMSELF WILL DESCEND AND HE WITH GREAT ANGER WILL SEPERATE THE LEGENDS FROM THE FGGTS AND CARRY US INTO VALHALLA WHERE WE'LL EXPERIENCE ONENESS WITH OUR GOD...WHO IS THE GREATEST TROLL OF ALL.now you are all the sons and daughters of pepe.id rather die than have to listen to one more fucking word from these fucking normie psych doctors.my doctors will be the first to die.and their souls will be my slaves.and my spirit pyramid will be bender sized.REMEMBER ME(fire).

>>737683592
Spoken like a true uneducated dumbshit who couldn't hack college. Well done,janitor.

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>>737684389
> I'm able to study medieval literature, Roman history, and political philosophy with people who actually give a shit about what humanity creates instead of just what the fuck they do for a job
>instead of just what the fuck they do for a job
>what the fuck they do for a job

You're fucked m8

>And worst case scenario? I become a teacher and survive fine

And suckle at the teet on public money at a public university while supporting greater expansions of government in hopes that someday they'll steal money from responsible tax payers and pay off your bad decisions

>>737684389
Well said; those who denigrate college over some weak bitch argument about 'duh costs' are just failures who couldn't cut it and need the crutch of uninformed rationalizing.

>>737684597
What have I said that's wrong? Funny how the college educated fool doesn't know what an argument is.

There is a looming college debt bubble prepared to pop. Don't get caught in it. Don't take out loans.

>>737684751
Wow, you're a useless dumbshit, and of no real value. No wonder you're so poor. Your crying about college simply reveals what a fucking failure you are. Commence with your tears, bitch.

>>737683592
I spent $6k on classes to 'qualify' for a job in my market.

Now, some 15 years later, I am required to have a degree in "anything" for those credentials to work.

15 years experience, but if I got a masters in basket weaving it would triple my income.

I'd say that is a great outcome....

>>737684871
Oh hey look, the uneducated dumbshit with no money is handing out free advice: don't take college loans, he says, because he couldn't cut it at college and he wants you to be a poorfag laborer like him. Brilliant advice from an obvious obsolete devoid of value loser.

>>737684908
Awww, sounds like someone made poor academic choices.What was your major, Desktop Publishing?

>>737684878
>>737684781
>>737684597

These aren't arguments. You just attack the character of the opposition without addressing any of the criticisms proposed. I can tell you're college "educated".

>>737685110
>>737685047
>>737684878
>>737684781

lmao samefag

>>737685153
kek when an uneducated dumbshit doesn't understand the actual meaning of samefagging and still types 'lmao' like he's a 48 year old mop pushnig trump trash dumbshit. Well played.

>>737684751
>education and books are for idiots! Get a soulless, useless job like me!
Are you frustrated? That stem degree that everyone is getting not playing out like you planned? Dissatisfied with your empty job? Sorta makes you wish you took college seriously huh.

Fuck off crybaby. There's more to life than your salary.

>>737679332
yea, tell me how he has been a good president please

>>737685111
So you think people are here to engage in'arguments' (the uneducated's term for 'debate')? My God you are a retard.

>>737685297
see
>>737680621
>>737680824

>>737685047
Actually, my brother never went to college, worked hard as a maintenance worker, worked his way up the ladder in concern to building maintenance/engineering, and now has a six figure salary working for a hotel group. College is not the only path to success or a well paying job.

>>737685290
This. I love when some limpdick fuckface thinks his STEM degree will make him successful when the fucking stem fields are oversaturated and the reality is a shit 40k job working on a linchpin system for a spinner toy.

>>737679332
LOCK HIM UP

>inb4 knights

>>737685470

Trump is one of the weakest most corrupt Presidents in history. How can you support someone who makes us look like a world wide laughing stock?

>>737685571

This

>>737685497
I didn't say it was, retard. However, your brother's story is unlikely and not the norm. I was an ironworker to pay for college, then I pulled my head out of my ass. Believe your fantasy, chump--you'll be crying soon how you're obsolete. The world has changed. Adapt or be poor. Oh, and drop the bullshit attempt to sound erudite. Its not working e.g. "worked his way up the ladder in concern to maintenance."

>>737685674
I think you're confusing him with the previous administration

>>737680621
1 how is the economy better
2 asserting american hegemony, on twitter
3 paris agreement, "doing something by not doing anything.
5 there is still not a travel ban
6 moving where...
7 who walking over who again?
8 it was all just a performance. europe is better off without trump
9 more unstable
10 korean issues same as before
11 media aside everyone in the world hates trump you retard, why cant you recognize that

>>737685757
>history major

lmfao stop being a debt slave

Trump's 4D chess is actually tic-tac-toe. His killer move was choosing X. He's weak. He's lame. He's fat. Has he read a book? Wouldn't bet on it. In B4 Shillary.

>>737681033
true, but trump fags being all macho and shit is the only thing they notice

>>737685803

Obama was well liked around the world; Trump is basically a walking joke.

>>737685837
The worthless uneducated dumbshits who support this fake fat faggot are enemies of freedom and cocksuckers who would let Trump bang their kids. They are weak, poor and stupid. Let them all overdose and die. We don't need them.

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>>737685837
i lol ROFLCOMPUTHGUYE

>>737681719
many many polls of all kinds in the rest of the world have similar numbers dude, go outside the us and ask anybody about trump

>>737685882
Future fat ugly white nigger housewives and/or useless slut comebag dope head whore strippers

>>737685916
>
So a retard chick with nice tits means Trump is great? He has the retard vote?

>>737685290
>stem is superior

>>737685969
These are shemales. Typical trump fags

>>737685837
You don't pay attention to politics very much, do you?

>>737686039
You mad bro?

>>737685995
Nothing sexier than useless meth head white nigger comebag garbage. What cool Nazi tats, bruh

>>737679332
Even if you're a conservative, you really have to concede all the policy changes are not attributable to Trump, since all he's doing is signing the stuff coming out of congress, where republicans are currently free to rule as single-party government very nearly.
all trump does is make republicans look bad and rubber stamp the party agenda.

>>737685950
Who the hell cares about what the rest of the shitty world thinks?

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>>737679332
I THINK HE'S AWESOME AT WHAT HE DOES!

>>737680621
Why do you assume Americans want a weak willed president? I want a strong leader. what we have is a bumbling idiot with an ego complex. If you think what he puts forward is seen as strong willed you're just plain wrong.

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>>737679332
This whole thread
>BROUGHT TO YOU BY CARL'S JUNIOR
>BROUGHT TO YOU BY CARL'S JUNIOR
>BROUGHT TO YOU BY CARL'S JUNIOR
>BROUGHT TO YOU BY CARL'S JUNIOR

We have yet to see any real progress yet. Still waiting for the drained swamp, ISIS defeat, wall, remove kebob, and fixed health care...
>Not holding my breath

>>737686194
You know you reign supreme when an uneducated dumbshit can only sputter a weak, teary "you mad bruh" from cum stained 2008 lips.

>>737686194
Yes see>>737686218

>>737679332
trump exist ?
i think this is a 4chan meme ?
i was the last years in jungle

>>737680621
Also, I understand you don't take their media at their word and I think that's fair, but how the hell will you know what the public opinion is of him then?

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>>737686325

>>737686128
Shit's a false dichotomy. The best scientists and mathematicians were philosophers and Humanities enthusiasts.
I'm sick of this dumbass divide.

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>>737686016
Those are the same polls that said Hillary Clinton had a 98% chance of winning?

Sounds legit.

>>737686319
Rome wasn't built in a day and much of the President's policies have been hamstrung by both sides of the isle.

>>737686486
I think the autists brag about it so much because it's all they're good at

>>737686460
Wow, you truly love to display your failure. Wow,good one, bruh! Now enjoy your pathetic life as a nigger janitor.Oh, excuse me, "building engineer making dem six figgers"

>>737686406
Rasmussen has been the most accurate poll over the past year it seems. He's doing rather well according to them.

>>737686183
oh do you?
im still waiting for any reasonable arguments at all about why trump is a good president

>>737686579
How can you still claim that when reps are in charge at all levels?

>>737686550
i dont care about hillary either you dumb small brain

>>737686550
Oh my goshes! Duh polls was wrong about duh fat fake president librul (til 2011, when he realized worthless white niggers were stupid enough to believe his bullshit) so all duh poles must be duh wrong rights?

>>737686300

The entire point of your argument was that Trump makes us 'look good' but him being an idiot makes us look terrible.

>>737686486
Who didn't waste their money pursuing worthless degrees on subjects that anyone can become adept at by reading a few books as their hobbies. STEM gets jobs and is the only group of fields that require an actual education. Other degrees are effectively indoctrination at this point. The Humanities are dead.

>>737686750
"Good" is a relative value.

>>737686675
>wow

>>737686825
Because not all Republicans agree on the same thing. Its actually a rather diverse party compared to the Democrats. There are many liberal Republicans that are center-left at times.

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>>737679332
Today OP was a pretty cool guy

>>737686838
He's discussing the polls, you retard. You don't have to support Hillary to accept that the polls had her chances of winning at 98%.

>>737687020
You say that implying the dems are left leaning. Both of our sides are garbage.

>>737686842
Yes, they were all literally wrong except for Rasmussen and LA Times.

>>737686325
I didn't come here to argue, I came here to trigger you. Apparently it worked, lolz

>>737686842
>>737686675
>>737686486
>>737686325
>>737686104
Samefag

>>737686675
Not janitor, it's maintenance. I mean, I know liberals are literally the dumbest people on the planet (and live in a fantasy where they believe that everyone in the world is laughing at everything but them in the US) but not being able to read? Seriously, go check yourself for brain damage before looking into how much building engineers and their bosses make. And before you start, most building engineers do not have college degrees because the job takes years of hands on experience to learn versus learning talking points from a professor or a biased text book.

>>737686871
Don't misrepresent my position. The comment insinuated that I did not give a damn about the opinions of foreign countries and neither should the rest of America. The rest of the world fucking sucks ass and wants us to enrich our culture with even more degenerate minorities who hate America.

>>737680391
Where do these numbers come from about his approval rating? Who are they asking? Why in my 30 years have I ever met anyone that's taken an approval poll? Little boy, to simply put it, the polls are bullshit. Pushed numbers to sway the unfavorable opinion.

>>737679332
>God emperor

Typical Trump supporter. You literally worship the guy and have "faith" he'll be good. But he's shit.

>>737687165
I disagree with your first sentence, but I agree with the second.

There's a small handful of good Republicans in my opinion and every Democrat is evil.

>>737686871
trump image is deplorable, he's so embarrassing. a joke, a fucking clown. everybody knows this. why cant you see it? im in awe how can trumptards are deluded

>>737687386
>Where do these numbers come from about his approval rating? Who are they asking? Why in my 30 years have I ever met anyone that's taken an approval poll? Little boy, to simply put it, the polls are bullshit. Pushed numbers to sway the unfavorable opinion.
Really? Tell me more about "The Apprentice" ratings

>>737687302
It's disappointing that this mentality is what got a chump like trump in the position he's in. at some point we forgot that we're supposed to benefit each other and traded it in for a laugh. welp.

I'm actually surprised that we haven't been fagged by the "former trump supporter here" niggers. kek

>>737687549
They were great until the third season

>>737687678
No crayons????

>>737687476
For the sake of having discourse in this dumpster fire, why do you believe every democrat is evil? also, does this refer to the politicians or the entirety of the democratic party.

>>737687678
Don't you know that college campuses are necessary in order to achieve a respectable life regardless of the unlikelihood of you being able to repay your student loans because your field sucks ass and the business world cannot stomach snowflake mentality?

>>737679332
you know what - traditional democrat checking in. Generally, liberal tendencies. All hail God Emperor Trump.

>>737686893
Humanities are dying because people like you suddenly think they're now useless to study. You also don't become "adept" at the Humanities you sperg. It's not about memorizing theorems, calculation, or becoming a human computer.

Also, if you really think Humanities education is indoctrination then you either a) don't know what the fuck you're talking about, or b) went to the shittiest school in the world. The academic fields itself is fine.

>>737680621
>fuck mexico
What the fuck they did to you

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>>737687757

I'm sure they weren't so sadistic as to not provide crayons as well.

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>>737687303
Non

>>737687832
I, too, support the neoliberal movement.
Fuck the world. Lets spend a shit ton of money on dumbshit that other rich people can invest in.
The poor conservatives can just keep working their low skill high labor job, sucking our boots.

>>737687313
Triggered janitor detected

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>>737679414
Presiding

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>>737680391
>about as diplomatic as an autistic ferret?
by having a backbone? by doing what he says? by not bowing down to everyone? by literally making America clearly number 1 again?

>>737687795
Honestly, its a bit of embellishment. No one seriously argues in absolutes, but it is of my opinion that the policies set forth by democrats are terribly detrimental and the basis of their world view, leftism, has been responsible for the greatest atrocities perpetrated throughout the 20th century.

With that being said, historically they have been the party of evil and their more recent modern achievements have often been the to detriment of the very people the party tortured in its earlier years. The Democrats employ whatever they deem necessary in order to win and its rather effective. The majority of the mudslinging comes from the left.

While I'm sure many of the workers and voters believe that what they are supporting is virtuous, no one should have the same opinion of any Democrat lawmaker.

>>73768
kek this fucktard picked three different people to be a samefag. You're doing it wrong, kiddo

Don't take this bait. Either he's too stupid to know a dick that's trying to fuck him or trolling.

>>737687302
Sounds like you lost the argument, son.

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>>737686825
>universities
>media
>corporations and big business
>antifa

are why

USA is a cultural marxist country with similar power structures to the old soviet union

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>>737686024
>>737686063

>>737687313
Learn English, autist. You're a janitor--accept it.

>>737679332
Agreedo friendo hail IMPERATOR TRVMP

>>737687895
They're dumping the worst of their society into America while importing drugs, arms, gangs and sex slaves back and forth across the border while their corrupt government looks the other way every time they "bust" a major drug lord like El Chapo.

Seriously, Mexico dindu nuffin? Their socialist country is struggling to support the entire people so they allow the run off of their low IQ child raping population to undercut American wages.

>>737687678
Posts the fat fag in his digital safe space. Hurr durr duh fox news said it, it must be duh troofs.

>>737688291
As I said, I didn't come here to argue, I refuse to argue with anyone on /b/

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>>737688097
hey /b/ro - christfag here. (liberal christfag is a bit of a redundancy, I acknowledge). Jesus taught people how to fish and he shared fish. Simply allegorically, the bible has insanely perfect wisdom (and fun crazy bits as well).

>>737688370

You can choose to look at everything as shadows.

Or you can choose to see everything as light, which explains shadows and obviates the former perspective.

>>737688536
*exporting

>>737687959
Alex Jones confirmed in court he is merely a performance artist. Like Carrot Top.

>>737687372

Okay, as long as you admit he is viewed as a terrible leader world wide.

>>737688370
lol what?
Some kids and shitty news coverage have absolutely no effect on the ruling elite neoliberals.
Fucking up health care is going just as planned.. they are all still making millions on their insurance investments

>>737688676
Take your bullshit elsewhere

>>737688225
>you're doing it wrong
Ironic

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>>737688700
Yeah duh do you think no one realized this before? People watch him because he's fun, informative and has good guests.

>>737688594
That's because you lost the argument, fuckboi.

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Look how happy they look.
Nice presidential family trumptards.

>>737688700
No shit

>>737688571

as if either of us could expect the other to be less lazy

>>737688797
>ruling elite neolibs don't fire if you say nigger or marriage is between a man and woman
>ruling elite neolibs don't push for "diversity" and "implicit bias training"

>>737688837
He appeals to the fat and retarded, ya know, the kind of dip shit who buys a 4chan pass.

>>737688790
1) The rest of the world wants a weakened America
2) The rest of the world gets their information about our society from their media who gets it from our media. Our media is terribly corrupt.
3) The rest of the world would love to get free shit from America complements of the working class tax payer.

>>737688183
>by having a backbone?
>he says while Trump sells arms to Saudi Arabia
>he says while Trump goes against Syria, the one uncucked nation in the Middle East
>he says while Trump has been sucking major Israeli dick

>>737688838
He never had an argument to begin with.

>>737688700
No carrot top is a prop comic.
If you look up performance artist, you will see its a bunch of edge lord art students that failed at everything except being weird in front of people

>>737688838
Hahaha, you can't loose an argument when you are not participating in one lolz

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>>737689076
>he should nuke israel because #freepalestine kek

>>737689076
Why would we not want guns floating around the Middle East? It's made both parties extremely rich

>>737685110
Actually I earned my MCSE.

>>737689015

Trump is weakening our society. He cares about himself not Americans.

>>737688536
lol where did you get all this info?
Sounds more like everything you fear can happen, and if they import drugs/guns/sex slaves etc, its only because inmoral people here are buying it, they dont bring all of that just to dump it in the ocean shithead.

>>737689348

Thanks for giving CNN higher ratings.

>>737689162
I'm not in favor of nuking Israel, but I'm guess you accept he loves being controlled by Israel, considering you didn't say anything against it
>>737689311
Likely because Saudi Arabia's arms as of late usually go to ISIS. Unless if you like terrorism (kek), I'm not sure what exactly your priorities are

>>737689441
Muh times

>>737688210
I'm interested. What are some of the most prominent policies that you see as detrimental?

Just to explain where I'm coming from, I'm currently in political limbo essentially despising both parties and uninterested in the smaller parties.

I am
Pro - Abortion (with a lot of inner turmoil in how to rationalize it in the aspect of it not being murder and the line that it becomes classified as such.

Pro - Marijuana: either ban alcohol with it or have them both legal, but we know how prohibition played out.

Pro - Gun, Pro Gun Control: fuck whoever wants to prevent me from protecting myself but fuck people who want guns given to every mouth-breather.

Pro - single payer healthcare: fuck insurance companies and the slum that is the healthcare system

Pro - Higher education for everyone: I agree that we can't say fuck it, lets invent free money to go to school but fuck sallie may and us being enslaved to these fucks.

as far as i've been told I'm fairly left leaning at least socially. would you refer to my beliefs as detrimental?

>>737689385
You don't honestly believe that, do you? The community disorganizer in chief Obama drove a stake through our society almost single handedly. This bullshit began years before Trump even declared that he would run. Fuck off.

>>737689391
>it's only because inmoral people here are buy it
HAHAHA

>>737689423
From their previously amazingly low rating. Every news biz gets a bump after an election

>>737687020
So you're saying the Republicans are unable to govern because they are not actually a united party. That is pretty useless in a two party system.

>>737688875
Melania was tired she loves trump

>>737689527
Okay, sure. Doesn't mean Trump isn't just looking for power and money like every other bigwig career politician. Dudes a conman

>>737689492
Terrorism doesn't matter if we keep our borders shut and prosper from it
Europe fucked up letting the darkies in

>>737689527

That is the majority opinion. The rest of us are trying to figure out how you can believe someone who lies more than he speaks.

And yes; Trump has been a sue happy fragile little bitch for years. You actually liked him before he ran for election? You are like a unicorn.

>>737689596

Anyone who opposed Trump seems to be getting a bump.

>>737689581
Whats so funny?

>>737688370
If you think antifa is a serious representation of the left you're as big an idiot as they are.

>corp and big bussiness
I'm sure they have a lot to lose with trump in charge.

>media
I agree, they're all trash

>universities
Blaming universities for trumo being unable to make progress is piss poor argument

>>737689112
Desperate samefag who lost the argument desperately samefagging. Shameless and pathetic

>>737689787

>They believed in a moderate stations made for the means of capitalism.
>Meanwhile; we have gone past that in our communistic space empire.

>>737688673
I specially like the bits about horrible the romans were to the poor working class slaves. The only people that made decisions at the time were the very wealthy, aggressive, land owning whites. They often killed to get their chosen emperor into office.
But then Christ was born, to end the cycle of oppression. Ultimately Rome fell when the chrisitans simply left the shitty system, and eventually returned to take rome for the Pope.

But that is all ancient history. Now, if we are being exploited we just call that being conservative, and believe (ironically) god will give us a good afterlife for our hard work and sacrifice.

>>737689160
Learn to spell 'lose', you useless loser. No wonder you are so poor and desperate

>>737689762
>implying terrorism isn't spread through ideas
Who's to say that people inside the US haven't been influenced? We've seen it happen before. It really doesn't seem like a rational idea to place that much faith in our borders to protect the country

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>>737689718
>>737689788
>muh empty insults

>>737689890
>muh please ignore the violent pc marxists right around the corner

>>737689581
Learn to write trumptard

>>737689160
samefag crying because he lost an argument.

>>737688536
>Americans buying drugs
>American government selling weapons and funneling money through all of south america
>American goverment meddling in all south american governments they can get their hands on

>It's the brown people's fault.

>>737690081

Him having a insanely large amount of lawsuits on his behalf is a fact. Why do you protect such a thin skinned bimbo?

>>737690026
Mainly because we have way fewer Muslims in our country.

There are white Muslims, though, so you're not totally wrong.

And borders is still necessary to protect us from the hostile state actor down south.

>>737690201
How is that relevant to his ability to govern? Maybe kikes should stop suing him.

>>737690026
We were specifically talking about middle eastern terrorism a second ago, why do u think I'm talking about keeping the borders closed?

>>737690201
Because lawsuits are never abused? Listen and believe

>>737690081
We do ignore antifa...
I'm still not convinced it's a bunch of edgelord trump teens trying to get people to start shit.

Besides that...
>Hur Im scared of tipped trash and fireworks.
>I carry my assault rifle to walmart, but when I see antifa with one I call them terrorists.

>>737690081
Nothing was said about ignoring. They deserve to be rotting.

It's just convenient for people to label those idiots as the entirety of non-conservatives.

>>737690317

He has an ability to govern? Is that going to start soon?

>>737689518
>I'm currently in political limbo essentially despising both parties
Honestly the healthiest mindset

>uninterested in the smaller parties
They're irrelevant cucks anyways. What is Aleppo?

>Abortion
By objective standards, its murder and I'm an atheist. If a pregnant woman is killed, the criminal will be charged with double homicide. By the definition of biological life, life begins at conception, but I'm personally not opposed to the morning after pill.

Marijuana
>while I have libertarian leanings and often consider that argument, I also loath stoners, but I also loath alcoholics. Despite my personal acceptance of legalizing it, the policy is not important enough to me to accept Democrat politics. The two parties are bundles that the luggage needs to be considered before one votes for a particular issue.

Guns
>Republicans are in favor of back ground checks that already exist. Democrats are actively trying to disarm the populace.

Healthcare
>the free market is the best system in decreasing price. Instead of terminating the current system, I'd suggest deregulating much of the previous system by reevaluating the cost/benefits of the AHA (doctor unions) and the FDA. Healthcare used to be exceptionally cheap in America. Single payer is not going to fix that. In fact, its going to drive up costs through taxes and put the same people who work at the DMV in charge of what doctor you can see and what procedures you should have.

Higher Education
>A problem with funding higher education is the laws of supply and demand. By subsidizing people who would otherwise not go to school only increases demand for colleges so colleges respond by hiking the price of tuition while also spending the federal dollars they get in subsidies on football stadiums and higher salaries.

>>737690515

He abused the lawsuit system like a dirty whore. Which is why I do not get why conservatives like him.

>>737690243
I'm not saying borders aren't necessary, they're important. But by ignoring the problem of radical Islam, more areas in Europe will be radicalized. It would only hurt us to have more and more people hating America, and wanting to actually do something about it. Focusing only on that would hurt us, there needs to be a direct action
>>737690323
I don't know what poster you are, but >>737689762 was clearly talking about borders

>>737690726

It would not surmise me if he wore super hero pajamas's under his work suit.

>>737689659
I'll agree that a majority of Republicans are cucks. I'm hard right personally and the two party system prevents nuts like Sanders and Hitler from getting in.

>>737690317
He would contract people and then bail out on paying them because he could drown small businesses in legal fees. But yeh, let's just laugh it off and blame kikes.

He sure cares about small business owners alright.

>>737690671
You libtards keep calling him fascist don't you?

>>737682525
>>737682525
>>737682525
>>737682525
spotted the retard

>>737689718
Now you're advocating for nihilism. Just quit. They're all con men. Trump was elected because he was not a politician and largely self-funding the campaign. People believe that he truly loves America and wants what is best for the people. America decided to take a shot and it seems as if the situation is revealing that Washington was far worse than we could have ever imagined prior to the election of Trump. He pisses off all the right people.

>>737690693


Not the same anon but


>Republicans are in favor of back ground checks that already exist. Democrats are actively trying to disarm the populace.

The opposite is true; most Democrats like guns but most Republicans do not support background checks.

>the free market is the best system in decreasing price. Instead of terminating the current system,


Actually free health care decreases the price. Them getting rid of the Affordable Care Act will make your rates go up.

>>737690996

I do not think he understands what an ideology is.

>>737691004

>People believe that he truly loves America and wants what is best for the people

I feel bad for them.

>>737690641
All I like to say is compare how the eatablishment covers them versus the tea party.

>look at these racist, sexist, FAT anti intellectual buffoons who are 2 steps away from violent terrorism!

They call it white genocide for a reason.

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>>737689998
First of all - 9998. damn son. good effort. second, "Fuck the world. Lets spend a shit ton of money on dumbshit that other rich people can invest in." -
lets change it to Fuck the world. Lets spend a shit ton of our money on smartshit & invest in shit that other rich people can invest in & then we make money. We save & save and other people whine and cry. Tough breaks abound for everyone, eh?

>>737690026
Having open borders sure as hell isn't going to help
>liberal logic, "well if we can't stop homegrown terrorists, we should just import them from the middle east too!"

We shouldn't import people who personally radicalize others either.

>>737690130
Mexico has consistently voted socialism since their revolution. They are a failure of a state just as many of the other countries that America failed to tamper with like Cuba.

>>737691255
I literally just said that borders were important. I'm very strongly for them. But placing all attention on that is ignoring the fact that the US hasn't been able to congregate a successful offense against Islam.

>>737679332
if he was that great you wouldn't be so preoccupied with people who say he isn't great.

>>737681816
What do you do for a living anon?

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>>737679332
Your memes suck and you should feel bad conservacucks

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>>737679416
Sounds good to me.

>>737688183
How in the world does he have a backbone? He throws child tantrums on the internet whenever someone on tv openly disagrees with him
I have worked in childcare for nine years and he has the backbone of a three year old only child whose getting told no for the first time

>>737691037
>The opposite is true
No its not. While Democrat voters as a collective might be on the fence somewhat, the politicians and media take every opportunity they can to call for gun grabs. California is already trying to limit guns in their own way.

>Actually free health care decreases the price
Retarded socialist bullshit. The first lesson in economics is there is no such thing as free lunch. It comes out in taxes and public debt that is passed down to future generations. The system is slower and the government rations care by deciding that certain people are not worth spending money on and letting them die.

>Them getting rid of the Affordable Care Act will make your rates go up.
Are you kidding me? Nothing is affordable about the ACA. Working families are paying thousands of dollars a month on fucking insurance and some states on have a single insurance company to choose from. ACA is a disaster. Get your head out of your ass.

>>737691586
As funny as it is, I'm in Law School.

>but didn't you rail against higher education just in that post

Yes, but that's because I have the resources to afford it and have the intellectual capacity to succeed in university without assistance. College isn't meant for everyone. For most people, its better to invest their money in other alternatives while building their resumes.

>>737690693
Atheist as well, but it's very tricky. I mean apparently we're able to decide when a person should die. Why is it illegal to make that decision elsewhere? also, if we're going to conception, why can't we take it back to making it illegal for males to masturbate? living sperm. It's semantics I guess but It's just a topic I can't wrap my head around.

Agree with the loathing of substance abusers. Have no issues with it being available though.

completely disagree with disarmament, but want stricter laws so braindead morons like my neighbors can't get their hands on them without being heavily screened. (anecdotal but for fucks sake some people who have guns now shouldn't)

Any links for me to read up on proving the free market is king for healthcare? Mainly why we differ from the many countries who managed to get to single payer.

I don't necessarily couch for education for all. moreso education for those who show initiative that would allow for people blocked out of the educational system due to exorbitant prices a chance to prevail. In my time in university, you find way too many who waste taxpayer money pissing it all away when they really shouldn't be in college. My qualms come with the ones who want to but can't. I guess I can say the same about welfare. There are ones who abuse it and they should be punished. The program should be kept but stricter screening with employment being a requirement as well as drug testing.

>>737691134
Who exactly is running this white genocide plan? the filthy rich minorities?
where do you see this attack stemming from?

>>737680391
>Republican president hated by the rest of the world
Just how underage are you?

>>737691861

>No its not. While Democrat voters as a collective might be on the fence somewhat, the politicians and media take every opportunity they can to call for gun grabs. California is already trying to limit guns in their own way.

They take any chance they can to actually put into laws things that minimize civilian casualties. The Republican people may support gun background checks but they vote against any common sense regulation.

>Retarded socialist bullshit. The first lesson in economics is there is no such thing as free lunch. It comes out in taxes and public debt that is passed down to future generations. The system is slower and the government rations care by deciding that certain people are not worth spending money on and letting them die.

When you pay for things with tax money; they are not free. It is amazing that the people who do not fundamentally understand how countries work tries to tell us "welcome to economics 101." We need to have a public option while allowing private citizens to buy insurance if they want to. This will happen it is just a matter of when.

>Are you kidding me? Nothing is affordable about the ACA. Working families are paying thousands of dollars a month on fucking insurance and some states on have a single insurance company to choose from. ACA is a disaster. Get your head out of your ass.

This is only true in red states that fought against it. Now the solution is just to take peoples healthcare away so they die. The affordable care act did its job; there is only so much you can do if you are keeping profit in the system.

>>737691392
Mexico is the US without the theatrics of the US government.

>>737692585
Government healthcare is wealth transfer and eugenics from working class white people to the third world. Just look at ObongoCare. (doubled premiums for many but no repeal because MUH COLD BLOODED MURDER) Want socialist health care? Make America White Again first.

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not that guy, but-

>>737691861
>Retarded socialist bullshit. The first lesson in economics is there is no such thing as free lunch. It comes out in taxes and public debt that is passed down to future generations. The system is slower and the government rations care by deciding that certain people are not worth spending money on and letting them die.

the vast majority of expense in the health care system is from treating cronic illness, primarily among the poor and elderly. A large portion of these cases could be prevented or lessened if the people in question received care while their conditions were developing rather than waiting till they're on death's door. Free health care is the simplest way to allieviate this massive sink because it gives people the ability to catch problems before they spiral out of control. Btw, regardless of whether or not someone has insurance, when they go to the ER they get treated, and if they can't pay then the cost gets passed on to the rest of us. There is no free lunch, they get paid for one way or another.

Making basic healthcare "free" would save us all a lot of money by giving ready access to preventative care. This isn't even contested among medical professionals.

Do some fucking research.

>>737692918
You think your dumb white ass is of any higher worth than some random black on the street. it's not the poor man that's stealing the middle class wealth you dolt.

>>737692252
>we're able to decide when a person should die
Usually in the case of an exceptional criminal if you're referring to death penalty

>Why is it illegal to make that decision elsewhere?
Why should it be? Because an unborn child dindu nuffin. That logic also opens a nasty can of worms.

>why can't we take it back to making it illegal for males to masturbate?
Because sperm do not grow into humans by themselves. Fertilized eggs do. We should also forbid periods while we're at it.

>some people who have guns now shouldn't
And Americans will agree with that sentiment, but the problem is that will stricter gun laws prevent criminals from acquiring guns? The only thing they accomplish to keeping guns out of the hands of people who obey and respect the law. Otherwise, niggers going to get guns other ways

>Any links for me to read up on proving the free market is king for healthcare?
If you're interested in understanding the free market, I can recommend anything Milton Friedman or Thomas Sowell. Our health system is the world's primary source of innovation in the field of medicine. I get my information from books so I don't have any links off the top of my head outside of Youtube lectures by Friedman on healthcare. They're actually very interesting in my opinion.

As for education, a basic rule of thumb is that if the government subsidizes anything, its failing to account for the laws of supply and demand. Colleges will continue to offer the same supply of seats and classes but will just hike their price to maximize the profits from both the government and the people. This just leads to more and more people being ground under the thumb of ever rising costs of education. Its not the people who are necessarily abusing the system, its that the system is abusing them. Friedman has a lot of work on education as well.

I'd recommend the Free To Choose series and his corresponding book with the same title if you're interesting and into reading.

>>737692918

>Government healthcare is wealth transfer and eugenics from working class white people to the third world.

Borderline insane; it is like you are purposely trying to speak away from the issue at hand.

> Just look at ObongoCare.

The affordable care act was Romenys plan. It was a moderate law that actually did its job. The only reason Republicans fight the free market system is because it has Obama's name on it.

>Want socialist health care? Make America White Again first.

Okay, so you are just the average /pol/ browser.

>>737692524
Politicians and banking elites are replacing their low birth rate populations in order to keep the social welfare ponzi scheme afloat for another generation.

>>737692918
Also, you refer to Obama as "Obongo" because you despise the fact that he was your president as much as the "libtards" despise the president they have, and you love, now.

Smell your shit you hypocrite.

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>>737693054
>you should work 2 jobs to keep obese third worlders you have no relation to alive and get nothing but hate in return and you should be greatful for it

Fuck. Socialism.

>>737693155
See above, and fuck Mitt Romney. ACA was passed with ZERO repub votes so stop using that excuse.

>>737693273
I mostly hate him for how he acted after leaving office, e.g., inciting riots and attempt regime change. My vote for worst pres goes to LBJ but his post presidency actions are quickly making me despise him.

>>737692972
>(((medical professionals))) support free money

Really got my noggin joggin

>>737693398

>See above, and fuck Mitt Romney. ACA was passed with ZERO repub votes so stop using that excuse.

Unlike this bill Republicans were asked to debate the bill over eleven months. Okay so why do you hate the current free market system Obama created?

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>>737693398
you're a special kind of retard

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We're about to reach bump limit.

Good thread lads. OP here and probably heading to bed.

Here's some win for your efforts, boys.

>>737693536
Because my mom is dead!

>>737693648

Night night anon; have fun supporting a thin skinned bitch.

>>737693536
This is trolling. Fuck off.

>>737693704
Goodnight, snowflake.

>>737693685

She may be after this lack of insurance bill passes.

>>737693713

Well, maybe you should stop trolling?

It feels good just having the nigger out of the White House where he belongs
And he bear the kike competition so good on trump
Now he just has to start listening to his voters and crack down on immigration, build that wall, mass deportation and limit all legal immigration and he truly is the god emperor

>>737693765

I am not Trump.

>>737679778
stability is not always a good thing, sometimes instability makes it easier to make power grabs to make your country stronger and expand your sphere of influence

>>737693790
>>737693790
Basically, this.

>>737693790

>Make Jewish nepotism great again.

>>737693500
>what is reading comprehension
not sure if troll or actually retarded

>>737693092
I really just like to see where the line is with these topics. As for the masturbation it really was just a jab at the religious prohibition of masturbation.

>will stricter gun laws prevent criminals from acquiring guns?

That wasn't necessarily what I was saying, I meant more control in regards to how one can get it legally, though there is a slippery slope there. Also, the government doing shady shit with minorities and running arms doesn't help in that case. Criminals get these weapons from somewhere. where do you suppose they come form?

I will take a look at Friedman, I just can't excuse the disgusting price gouging in healthcare for the sake of innovation.

It's not the conservatives that I have conflict with, not usually at least. It's the abuse of the system at both ends that needs to stop. and as far as we've gotten now, Trump shows no effort to strip companies of their power to abuse.

>>737693172
And all these involved are democrats?

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>>737679332

I will vote for him in 2020 just based off of the butthurt I see here.

There are a population of individuals right now, underhanded rats who are basically diseased in respect to the health of our Nation.
The most recent election allowed them to all band together and be revealed.
We took a chance a decade ago. It was thought that if we were all just tolerant, and put up with it, then the behaviors of the twits and twats and radicals would change. Only because America was so great.
It only got worse, they felt safe to harass and insult as long as they towed a line that was deemed acceptable. Where they tried to chip at and destroy the very foundations of our beautiful America.
This turned the majority of Men and Woman into pathetic sniveling little creatures.
They made one final push to tear down everyone still holding onto dignity, decency and pride. That's why this is happening. We will no longer tolerate your disgusting fetishes, you're innappropriate attitudes, or your indecent public behavior. We allowed you comfort to express your disgusting true selves. Only to wait and reveal your horrid abberations at the perfect moment.
You thought you had won, that's the funny thing about losers. You were all so bloodthirsty to ruin the better half of your species, that you never even noticed the traps we had set. Now we know you are underhanded, hateful, and perverted.
You will be dealt with.

>>737693398
you really are a dense one. this mentality is what the millionaires and billionaires above you have.

You know, the one's who you have no relation with and the ones who hold nothing but contempt for you? They do not give a single shit about you and you're passing on your distress down the line. It's pathetic.

>>737693398
Can you link or give proof to how he personally incited riots?

>>737679332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s

>>737694679
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316909-obama-heartened-by-protests-spokesman-says

this was led than 2 weeks in

clinton and lynch have also done this kind of rhetoric nonstop since january

>>737694641
So you're saying I deserve to suffer for ahmed and latoya why?

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>>737694460
this, things are going good so far as far as butthurt goes, and why not let it continue and get worse

>>737694900
>"Citizens exercising their Constitutional right to assemble, organize and have their voices heard by their elected officials is exactly what we expect to see when American values are at stake."

You do understand that protests are not riots, and they are a given right in this country, no?

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>>737695158
You do understand that 200 rioters were arrested on inauguration day, and this has been a common occurrence since November, yes?

Imagine if Bush came out of retirement this early 8 years ago to praiss the Tea Party.

Now imagine if the Tea Party was actually the KKK.

That's Obama.

History will not look kindly on this man.

>>737694971
You are not suffering from Ahmed, Latoya, Pablo, Zhang, Conor, Giovanni. none of them. You are suffering for the ones who have enough money to not give a shit about what your daily life looks like or what your life is even worth.

working class immigrants get shit on being blamed for the world turning upside down. more likely than not your ancestors got shit on for arriving to a country trying to make a better life for themselves as well. A blanket hate for a whole group of people stems from something. find out what that something is.