Are you afraid of death?

>>737441243
In general? Nah it's inevitable.
However, I would be scared of certain forms of death. Fire, water, etc.

>>737441243
I'm scared of ur mum sitting on my face

>>737441243
i welcome it with open arms

I'm not scared to die. I'm scared my kids will forget me and that I didn't really accomplish anything in life.

>>737442754
don't worry, she'll find another daddy for them soon enough

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>>737442656

not anymore after the doctors gave me 3 more years for the heart and 9 1/2 for all the other organs. So if its not one its the other

luckily i will be leaving a good amount behind for my family. Both a business and a hell of a life insurance. wife and 2 kids.

>>737441243
Not in general, but I don't want to be savaged by cancer or die too early.

>>737442879
Thats my fear man. Legit they are the only thing thats kept me here. Especially after my dad killed himself. I just hurt thinking that theyll forget me and im just a fart in the wind.

more afraid of leaving my family alone than anything. my parents are old, idk if they'd get over it by the time they died. husband would miss me too I think.

>>737441243
Not really, I'm afraid of a painful death

>>737443136
they still have your genes, very little keeping me here too, so can relate to that, sorry about your dad though anon, sucks

>>737443211
And also my family's reaction to me dying

nah, I've thought about it alot, just as long as it isnt gruesome and painful and hopefully when Im older

>>737443103
why is your body failing (if true)?

>>737441243
No because you won't be alive to be afraid.

>>737441243
I am afraid of what comes after death.

I don't know what to believe, I am confused,

I don't know if we live in a peaceful afterlife or we cease to exist.

It scares the shit out of me and worries me to pieces.

My life has been nothing but these thoughts recently.

No way to stop it.

Too scared and nervous to commit suicide, too scared and nervous to continue living.

Fuck me.

>>737443246
Thanks. He had serious demons. Hes probably better off now. I hope the genes keeps mus connected.

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>>737441243
What about you?
Do you fear death?

>>737443537
I don't know if it helps or not, but I have had that exact feel

>>737443442

High blood pressure, found out about it a couple of years ago when I had my first heart attack at late 20s. Ended up damaging most of my organs.

when I was in the ER i was running around 300/200.

>>737441243
yeah ofc, anyone who says "no" is lying to themselves.
Fear of death is literally the only reason we exist.

>>737443537
Remember what it was like befor you were born? I imagine it will be a bit like that.

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>>737443596
What got you over them?

>>737443591
Do you?

>>737443568
yeah, maybe, i think some people just aren't meant for this place, sounds weird as fuck but anyway, hang in there, sounds like we're both just doing our best to hang on

Not really, I'm more scared of not dying and becoming a veggie.

>>737443694
I see. Aren't there drugs for that?

>>737443751
I can't tell if this is shitposting or not.

I can barely remember before I was 4.

How am I supposed to remember if I existed or not before I was born.

>>737443781
Agreed. Keep hanging. Hope shit doesnt get too bad for ya.

>>737443826


Yes sir, 15 pills in the morning and 10 at night. and dialysis 3 times a week. without that they gave me 6 months.

>>737442275
Edgy

>>737442539
Pussy

>>737442632
Go back to 9fag kiddo.

>>737442656
Edgy

>>737442754
Beta fag. Go do something they'll remember you by/for.

>>737443103
Good man.

>>737443132
Truth

>>737443145
Show tits you fucking attention whore.

>>737443211
Pussy

>>737443391
Pussy

>>737443447
Faggot

>>737443537
Calm down pussy faggot.

>>737443742
Kind of true.

>>737443825
True

>>737443145
Post feet?

>>737443922
indeed likewise anon, think i'm mainly hanging on because my parents need my help, not sure what comes after that, guess i'll see!

>>737443832
Im just saying that you have been "not alive" for billions of years and very soon you will be again. We were all dead once, why are you scared to be dead again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AHe7LkwGyA

>>737443832
Different anon here, that's the thing, your consciousness ceases to exist and you feel nothing. At least, that's how I interpreted it.

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No, Im afraid of what is to come afterwards. I don't know what to expect and if I'm even ready for it. What if there is nothing afterwards, does my existence even matter then? Perhaps I wake up from some simulation and find myself in a state of constant torture. Maybe I receive infinite pleasure. I just don't know. But the process of death I am not scared of.

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>>737443757
I resigned myself to the fact that it'll be what it'll be, regardless of what I believe. so not knowing what to believe became less worrisome.

>>737441243
our whole lives death smiles at us, all we can do is smile back

>>737441243
Can't be afraid of what isn't real.

>>737444031

edgy faggot appears

>>737444031
I'm a faggot dipshit

>>737441243
I'd like to say no, but I'm pretty sure when I face death I will be.

>>737444171
Yeah, that's what I fear.

The aspect where you cease to exist.

How in hell does that work?
How will it feel to not exist?
What will you see if don't exist?

>>737444555
Mathematically the chance of eternal oblivion being true and we being aware only now in all eternity is slim.

>>737444335
Upset I offended you? Fuck off you pussy bitch.

>>737444373
Fucking disgusting cocksucker.

>>737441243
In a way we all are. I embrace it now that i have no heart.

>>737444708
Are you telling me there is most likely an afterlife?

>>737444721
feel better now? good.

>>737444555
Holy checked

>>737444789
Piss off, shithead.

using both math and science

I can honestly say that there is something out there

everything goes somewhere

>>737442673
Shipping costs like 12 $

Same Watch with free shipping costs 3$ on aliexpress

They must be making a bank with that scam

>>737444844
>Off by 400

>>737444778
Well... if you've ever taken the Lesser Key of Solomon and done its ritual to the tee then you have probably experienced the paranormal. Why would an empty room knock back? What I'm 'saying' is that we are probably living in a simulation, and nothing about a religious afterlife though.

>>737444864
you telling me that there is something after death?

not an afterlife where you feel eternal bliss, but just an area to exist?

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>>737441243
I am reconciled with my death. Following a meaningless life filled with loss, I don't worry about. I do not like pain, however, and I am concerned about that. The game now is to figure out the just right time to leave.

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>>737441243
I'm more scared of what happens after we die. Death is inevitable so there's no point of being scared of it. But what happens after is truly terrifying to me. Whether its heaven or hell, purgatory or just eternal darkness we simply cannot know.

I personally believe our souls gather energy from emotions we have during our lives and they use that energy to exist in the next life. In the next life we may take up another form of existence or just be in a 'universe' created from these emotions and experiences we had.

>>737445042

never done anything like that but my mother was deep into the accult when i was growing up

doors slamming an walls knocking became the norm. Hell even the occasional shadow person walking around the house was ok.

By the look of it when I moved the good ones came with me.

>>737444864
"Using math and science"
Stfu
Science tells us
'Yes your corpse decomposes and becomes wormfood.'

>>737441243
No, but I am scared of dying.

>>737445326
Of course your body decomposes, but that's body, not consciousness.

Math and science tells us that there might be a second place our consciousness goes after we bite the big one. (Not heaven)

>>737445131
Using the whole energy cant be created or destroyed. YES there is something.
Now from life experience. Man is it fucking beautiful in the afterlife.

>>737441243
/x/

>>737445541
how do you 'know' this?

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>>737445541
>Now from life experience. Man is it fucking beautiful in the afterlife.

Explain anon

>>737441243

Yes. Knowing our consciousness is a direct result of our brains, and knowing our brains will one day stop working, terrifies me to no end. You think to yourself "Oh, it's just gonna be black for all eternity. It'll get better sooner or later." Then the concept of eternity strikes in, and you're up the rest of the night with no way to sleep except alcohol. Fuck this entire existence, man.

>>737445788
Law of conservation of energy or whatever the fuck it's called

Death doesnt exist. It is just a moment of time where life is going to its end. Your fourth dimension is going to end there. Like your third dimension is going to end at the top of your head.
Are you afraid of top of your head?

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It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live

>>737445874
what about entropy

>>737445476
You are so agressively stupid you have no hope. Go on pretending there is something beyond this world and that you're not another religious nut. They way you say math and science demonstrates you have no idea what science you're talking about. Neuroscientists and neurobiology confirm that consciousness is purely biological. When your body dies so does every thought and feeling you have. Enjoy descending into the maw of oblivion you stupid worm.

>>737444069

check'm

>>737446013
>baiting this hard

>>737445476
Are you saying there is scientific proof of a soul?
Because if there is, mour "soul" is literally eaten by plants and worms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_MacDougall_(doctor)

like I said science and math

there is something

>>737445788
I died a few times, same guy from earlier with all the organ failures.

>>737445812
Well I used to have a reoccurring dream where I would be in a giant wheat field. then I would see shadows running at me from the distance. i wouldn't have anywhere to go but when I looked at my feet. There was a hole. I would jump in and be in an underwater cave. As I swam deeper into the cave More and more creature would appears around the wall and swimming with me. The colors would become brighter and more beautiful as I swam towards the depth of it all. Turns out that when I was having that dream I was dying every time when I was int he hospital.

It's ok you can respawn

Not afraid to die, just hope there is no afterlife. If it is, im glad my brain containing my memories and experience dies so I can start fresh.

>>737445991

when the universe entropies then yes we shall all die

>>737446013
Yeah, they also said that time travel was impossible.

Recently they proved that time flows forward while stuff exists.

When everything in the whole universe is gone, time can flow forwards or backwards.
There have been new breakthroughs that suggest another place in the universe that hosts consciousnesses.

>>737446200
Not a soul, it's just your consciousness.

After doing enough LSD I know truly that we are interdimensional time hopping aliens that occasionally occupy life on all kinds of planets for the crack. All other acidheads agree with me

I'll be glad to see the back of this planet, with its smelly ugly destructive humans.

>>737446253
As you die your bain is flooded with dmt. You should take some and post back here if the experience is similar.

>>737446253
when i was a baby, i died at least twice, not that i remember fuck all about it, only what my parents told me, i'm not afraid of death itself, and i don't 'think' there's anything after, the pain that gets you there, however brief, is an annoying thought

>>737446253
Im thinking life after death more and more lately. Im writing on it. Might turn it into a book or just into something for friends to read.

https://discord
.gg/e6MBbv

please follow that link so we expand on this. Its interesting as hell man. If you decide to join say its you in general and i will interview you.
Thanks in advance

I dread nonexistence; death is a great story ending in a cliffhanger and then never resolved.
But I guess I'm ok with being dead.
Dying is awful.
Unless that thing about brain going into overload and sending out shit ton of weird substances at the last moments, maybe your consciousness goes somewhere else.

>>737446253
This explains everything though, you have significant brain damage from oxygen deprivation as they kept restarting your heart. I'm sure you're terrible at math and science. Good luck with that low iq, guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

im with the lsd guy. Also I think this experiment is a way to find what we consider god and also the idea of multiple dimensions.

my 40th year riding motorcycles on the road...no way I should still be alive...FUCK DEATH!

When we die, our energy is redistributed throughout the universe according to the law of conservation of energy.

>>737446552

I have been thinking the same thing after I heard what it does to you. Maybe one day.

Dying? Depends on the situation.

Death itself? Hell no.

>>737445836
Is it though? Ants are conscious yet there's only a hundred thousand neurons in their brains. Even single celled micro-organisms display some awareness of their surroundings. Consciousness is not a product of large scale brains. Look through a microscope for once (on LSD)

>>737446462
Saying things like "recently they discovered" is further exemplifying my point. You're a stupid shit throwing out nonsense. Go have another stroke, dumbass.

>>737441243
i would consider myself someone who is concerned with the safety of things. i don't think i'm scared of death, but i would like to minimize the chance of it happening.

i'm scared of dying in some ways. i just don't want to die before i feel like i've accomplished something.

>>737446870
>Our emotions are physical in nature. Biological effects can have deep and profound effects on our true selves. Degenerative diseases of the brain can erode personality, brain damage can cause sudden changes in character, tumors can alter our feelings and biochemical imbalances radically swing our moods. Neurologists have delved deep into the brain and discovered that depression, love, niceness, politeness, aggression, abstract thinking, judgement, patience, instincts and memories have turned out to have biochemical causes, not spiritual ones, and can all be radically affected by brain damage and brain surgery. This is all only possible if consciousness and emotions are all physical, with no need for soul theory.

>If there was a soul, brain damage could not also damage our emotional feelings: but it does. Electrical stimulation of the brain causes actual desire to arise instantly. If memory, behavior and emotions are all controlled by the physical brain, what is a soul for? Any free will it exerts is promptly overridden by biological chemistry hence why so many diseases have an uncontrollable effect on personality. Modern science proves that the idea of souls is misguided. Everything is biological

>>737441243
no

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>>737442754
A common fear, and more legit than most among those who frequent this board.

>>737444188
nice ass.

>>737444031
A person more afraid than most.

The pain that might be involved in the actual dying process? Yes.

Am I afraid of leaving my wife behind to fall apart the same way my mother did when we lost my dad? Yes.

Am I afraid of oblivion? No. I won't know anything about it.

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>>737441243

>>737447097
Who is this anon?

>>737441243
no, why should i be afraid of something inevitable?

>>737441243
NO .. I will be ready for it .. got over that fear in war when every day could be your last ... do not think about dying at all

>>737441243
No.

If he comes near me I'll rip his nipples off

>>737441243
Nope. I've nearly died twice now. Once when I rolled my car and the other when I nearly drowned in the ocean. At this point I've come to realize that there is no point in being afraid of something that could happen in an instant.

>>737446870

Single-celled organisms are aware of their surroundings, but they are not conscious, i.e., there is nothing that implies they "know" of their existence and understand their influence on the world.

>>737447048
>How can there be survival after death if memory lies in the brain? If your personality comes from those memories, the hormones and electrical signals you produce that control mood and emotion, which themselves are dictated by your genetics and health throughout your life. If there's any form of existence after death, it would be nothing but a static inanimate picture.

>>737446552
This is likely false. Terrence McKenna hypothesized this, but there is no hard evidence to support. Your body does produce endogenous DMT, but the purpose for it is pretty much unknown.

Fun shit to experiment with, though.

>>737447048
does a new born baby have consciousness?

does it have emotions?

A soul?

people confuse one for the other too often.

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Annexx: Are you? Because it seems like no one here is. I like your thinking though. If you are interested look up Annexx Scribed on facebook and message me.

alright everyone it was fun

life is a calling

may you all have a nice day

>>737445225
To sleep, perchance to dream—ay, there's the rub, for in that sleep of death what dreams may come when we have shuffled off this mortal coil, must give us pause.

>>737447750

Not him, but what's your point?

To answer your questions:

>does a new born baby have consciousness?
Yes

>does it have emotions?
Yes

>A soul?
This doesn't exist, so no

>>737447750
I'd say all life have some form of consciousness as in reactionary awareness. (There's even Panpsychism).
Short answer is probably "No."
Then again the blank slate is a false. We are born with majority of our personality determined. (twin studies)

not in the slightest

>>737448158
but its nighttime in here

>>737447595
>At this point I've come to realize that there is no point in being afraid of something that could happen in an instant.

I've almost died at least a couple times as well. And I'm also suicidal but who isn't these days. Maybe a war kills us all..

>>737448204
Prove that souls don't exist. I'm not saying they do (they probably don't), but your belief that they absolutely don't exist is no more defensible than religious concepts.

>>737448719
>Maybe a war kills us all
Death by another human is unnatural.

>>737448894
>>737447048

I'm Chuck Norris. Death is afraid of me.

>>737443994
Maybe they will come up with more effective treatments

>>737448955
What if everyone around you is a p-zombie (look it up) and you're the only real consciousness? What if your entire reality is to test your soul? I mean, it's probably not, but it is an example to the contrary. Prove that you're not God.

>>737449349

This argument is silly. You can't prove that there isn't an invisible pink unicorn stretching its anus for me in my bed, that only I can see. You can't disprove a negative, it's a logical fallacy - look it up.

We only have our evidence to guide us, and there is no evidence of a soul, a God, or an afterlife.

>>737449643
Now you're saying it the right way. There is no evidence. You can't just say it doesn't exist. My argument is silly precisely to get you to this much less silly stance..."no evidence to support existence" is distinctly different than "certainly doesn't exist".

>>737449643
There is evidence of the supernatural. Anyone can practice magick and experience it. What does your materialism say about /x/ stuff?

>>737450183
no evidence for it.
And evidence against it
= ability to say it probably doesn't exist.

>>737450183

Sure, but saying something has a 1% likelihood of being true purely because you cannot disprove it is nonsense. It is nonsense because the same could be said about literally any statement, and so the argument loses its use and credibility.

>>737450440
Give me evidence of the supernatural then

>>737450888
True. But still can't conclude it definitely doesn't exist. Thanks for reiterating my point.

>>737450921
>>737450921
>Give me evidence of the supernatural then
Practice Robert Bruce's NEW and Modern Magick for a year.

>>737450921
When did I give a likelihood of it being true? All I'm saying is that you can't definitively rule it out.

Death is the ultimate form of peace. It is nothing to be dreaded. The only thing that is to be dreaded is dying without making any discernible change in the world. Most of humanity will suffer this fate.

>>737451282

If you cannot definitely rule it out, then it is implied that there is some unknown chance (however small) that it is true. If I could definitely rule it out, I could say there is 0% chance of it being true.

>>737450921
If you choose to close your mind to any possibility, no matter how remote the probability is, then you risk actually discovering truth. You can handicap odds all you want, but explain to me how completely ruling out a possibility, no matter how remote, is correct?

>>737451633
Why does making a change in the world matter when you die?

>>737451974

I'm not ruling anything out absolutely, simply because you cannot (as we have already established, you cannot disprove a negative). "Absolute" being the operative word here. But since there is no evidence of there being a soul, for example, there is no reason to live my life as if there is one, or even to give it much thought. Because if I did, I might as well be worshiping Zeus simply because no one can prove he doens't exist.

Do you see how we become trapped in a web of infinite possibilites with no way to sift through the nonsense, if we allow ourselves to think this way? Therefore, it is much more practical and genuine to abide by the rules we have discovered through evidence.

>>737451726
And if you say there is 0 percent chance that souls exist, are you correct? If so, definitively prove it. Statistics are calculations based on observable things, and are used as supporting evidence of an underlying fact. You can't observe a soul (that we know of), so there are likely no methods to calculate the odds of it existing. I'm not saying there is any likelihood of existence. I'm saying you can't prove it doesn't exist.

>>737452513
Why do you appear to be arguing with a point that I'm making while supporting the point I'm making?

>>737452513
> lives in universe with literally infinite possibilities
> worries about being trapped in a web of infinite possibilities

>>737452742

That was my point. I cannot say it doesn't exist with 100% certainty, or, alternatively, I cannot say that there is a 0% chance of it existing. But this is purely a result of us not being able to disprove negatives, so, again, the same could be said about ANYTHING. You cannot disprove Santa Claus. Do you believe in Santa Claus? Probably not, but by your own admission you have to agree that there is some small chance that he does exist simply because we cannot prove that he doesn't. So the argument is completely meaningless, and the same could be said about an afterlife. Stick to the evidence and science, and you'll live closer to reality.

>>737452858
Nuances. I'm supporting the inability of us to disprove negatives, but crucially, pointing out that this is the same for every and all arguments and that it is complete nonsense to say "x might be true because we cannot disprove it."

>>737453330
Which is why it's much more convenient to say "there is no evidence supporting that." (And also much more correct than saying "that is wrong" or "that doesn't exist.")

>>737453720

I would argue that it is more correct, but less convenient. If there is no evidence for something, it is convenient to live your life as if said thing does not exist.

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>>737451174
The deal with skeptics is that they are either literally stupid or just pretending to be stupid to troll.