Why electromotors are not advanced like fossil combustion motors?

>>737349202
our battery technology is junk is why

>>737349202
define "advanced", Jürgen

>>737349202
You need some help with that bro?

Energy can be pulled out of thin air it is all around us nikola tesla has proven that

>>737349513
Explain that please.

>>737349772
there's a magnetic field around us (compasses, yo)
if you spin a metallic coil within it, it'll generate electricity
but you can't "create energy" like this fag implies: >>737349513
you can only transform it. Mechanical energy required to spin the coil is converted into electrical energy.

>>737349202
>combustion engine
>advanced
Surely your american

>>737350051
So, why people decided to invest into combustion motors instead electro motors?

>>737350321
us advanced europeans use advanced green electric power that runs on bad economics and cargo cult

>>737350321
henry the hoover dam fjord did invent the car y'know

Yes because internal combustion engines are soooooo efficient compared to electrical powered vehicles.... from burning petrol/diesel you only get around a 25%-30% burn efficiency meaning you are loosing 70%+ of energy created. Yes battery technology is average at the moment but it's the future of motor vehicles.

(currently writing my dissertation on future of internal combustion engines)

>>737350591
Because it's already been developed and is more convenient to own a vehicle like that compared to electric

>>737350591
because shitty batteries
also oil industry lobbying hard to keep pumping oil until there's none left
then they'll whip out all the genius battery patents they've been hiding

>>737350871
>more convenient
Yeas, but, how did it even came to that that internal combustion motors are more convenient than electro motors?

>>737350980
Citroen made an electro motor cars that can go over 700 miles with only one charge. How is that a shitty batteries?

>>737351059
because the energy is stored in a more portable form

>>737351059
The fact is that internal combustion engines are cheaper for the power they output and their range. Most if not all electric cars use lithium ion batteries which cost a fuckton, and can set on fire if misused.

>>737351059
Less parts to make, super factories are set up to make these engines and as the internal combustion engine has been around for over 100 years knowledge in the field is vast in the automotive industry, it's only now that country's are seeing negative effects coming from the exhaust pipes so they are trying to go for more eco friendly vehicles even though cows have a larger effect on the environment than all vehicles in Europe

>>737351175
Massive tubes are more portable than a copper wires?

>>737351283
Petrol can't be set on fire if misused?

>>737351386
>thinks fuel lines are stored in massive tubes
>doesn't know basics of cars

Gtfo

Because the world is cruel and unfair

>>737351382
I hope you are aware that electromotors have over 2000% less parts than internal combustion motors.

>>737350727

Wow. Sounds like your paper will be groundbreaking.

>>737351495
Needs to have a high voltage spark or something with a high enough heat to allow it combust, but in the atmosphere petrol evaporates quite quickly

>>737351171
>How is that a shitty batteries
because it takes hours to charge
a gas tank takes seconds
also you can cycle a gas tank forever
you can only cycle batteries a couple hundred times at best

>>737351059
jews make more money selling petroleum

>>737351495
Petrol is a lot more idiot proof than Li batteries as it is widespread knowledge that petrol is flammable. Also petrol doesnt spontaneously combust when you're fuelling your car; Li batteries can overheat and combust if overcharged

>>737351587
Not quite 2000% less parts it's seen as less huge parts like pistons etc but more circuitry and wiring, a normal road vehicle used up to a mile in wiring for sensors but for an electric vehicle it uses roughly 3.5x more

>>737351728
So why wouldn't you have two batteries. One to drive with and other to charge. The point is, you can drive for almost ZERO costs but you don't want it because you need to charge the batteries. You sir, are fucking retarded. Like the 99% of this world.

>>737351599
It's already well known stuff in the industry, you can find all these facts in Euro emission papers

This is my all time fave thread. Thanks Anon, I've learned quite a bit about electric vs combustion motors. (when all I thought I'd see is porn.)

>>737351999
>what are multi cell batteries
you are a fucking retard
the whole point is that batteries charge way more slowly than they discharge

>>737352233
Just fuck off faggot. Uneducated piece of shit.

>>737352024

Should've really put /sarcasm at the end there. The paper sounds like lazy uninspired shit that'll end with a load of gushing over Tesla and their marketing machine.

From an industry point of view battery technology isn't completely viable at the moment for these reasons:

New factory will have to be made to make these vehicles along with a trained work force to make and develop it.

Batteries doesn't last as long compared to a fuel tank along wjth a longer refueling time, yes tesla have developed a quick charge technology but it still takes 45mins to 3 hours for a charge.

Making of the batteries is a global scale manufacture as you need to get elements from one side of the globe to the other then it gets shipped multiple times over to make a single battery

Life span of battery in electric vehicles are between 6 to 10 years.

There are afew more boring things but /b/tards won't understand

>>737352767
Also the environmental standpoint is redundant as the energy to charge electric cars most likely (in my country anyway) comes from natural gas power plants

>>737352441
I disagree with replacing internal combustion vehicles completely but governments arnt helping themselves. Btw tesla arnt "leaders" of electric vehicles honda have been making electric vehicles like the stupid model jizz stains for almost 30 years . All tesla as a company is, is a rich bloke who has paid to be known as industrys best even though alot of the technology is out dates

>>737352355
>resorting to name calling
wow.
let me spell it out for you.
"one battery": drive a hundred miles, charge for four hours
"two batteries": drive two hundred miles, charge for eight hours
get it?
I'm sure you don't, you mong.

>>737352767
Charging time is not a problem if you have two batteries. Also, 99% of people would gladly drive a car with 34 HP for 0,003$ / 100 miles instead 150HP for 20$ / 100 miles. (prices are expressed as they are in Eastern Europe.)

>>737353001
Exactly to make a single battery for a tesla or a prius costs the same amount in emissions as driving a big v8 for 10 years constantly

>>737353001
>power of Sun. Power of wind. Power of water - electrolysis

>>737353207
>use a second battery

Ummm the whole chassis of the vehicle is one big battery not a normal sized car battery mate you can't just replace it

>>737353190
You stupid fuck. While you're driving on one battery, the other one is charging.

Unfortunately, or more importantly, you are wrong. Tesla wanted to transmit electrical energy through the air via High Frequency Electromagnetic Waves. Luckily His experiment met with certain obstacles that put a halt to His efforts. The main issue with His idea is that, that much EM in the atmosphere, would assuredly cause Health risks such as cancer. There is NO such thing as '"FREE ENERGY"! Learn it. Understand it.

>>737353282
what the fuck does electrolysis have to do with anything, that uses energy you tool

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Just to debunk the replacing the battery argument....

>>737353465
Tesla wanted to transmit electricity through particles, charged by the sun's radiation, in the stratosphere. As the stratosphere starts at ~50000', the health risk would be minimal to none

>>737353465
It's funny how Mr elon musk has more failed experiments compared to successful products

>>737351999
>multicell car
first, they do this but
lithium ion batteries at car sized are explosive when damaged so having a lot in a object that is subjected to random accidents is a dumb idea

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>>737349202
what we need is thousands of ocean floating solar arrays generating hydrogen and convert all existing petrol engines to run on hydrogen and create more efficient hydrogen engines.

>>737353799
>>737353465 was referring to nikola tesla not the company

>>737353687
>Implying you couldn't make replaceable batteries.
I hope you and your family will die from the worst kind of cancer.

>>737349202
because the energy is readily available as electricity, most of the engineering and shit of combustion motors go into dealing with the actual combustion and when you don't have that things get simpler

Because oil companies that's why

>>737353847
Hydrogen fuel cells are too dangerous at its current state... if you broke a hydrogen cell it basically makes a hydrogen bomb.... there's a reason why my university rejected my first dissertation idea as I wouldn't be allowed to test the effects without creating a bomb

You all should go to automotive college before you think about automobile technology. Pls and thx.

>>737354034
>if you broke a hydrogen cell it basically makes a hydrogen bomb

dont be ridiculous

>>737354209
Agreed or know the basics

Electric powered cars are a waste of time until we discover cold fusion.

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>>737354034
retard detected Small tanks gas stations everywhere very cheap fill up price no more dangerous than a propane truck whens the last time one of them blew up.

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>>737354034
O god i hope nobody wrecks into her around my house o no.

>>737354265
>>737354438
>calls someone in the industry a retard and over dramatic

Ummm read afew technical papers from bmw and Aston Martin and come back to me... when unstable at a large quantity to power a car the cells can explode making a mini hydrogen bomb explosion that can destroy 100m around the source.

>>737354793
Hydrogen bomb in the english language means a nuclear bomb

>>737354793
you dont have a clue what a hydrogen bomb is, do you

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>>737354701
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/03/technology/gm-chevrolet-zh2/index.html

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>>737354793

>>737349202

And get, they are.

>>737354974
>>737354988
Pressure builds up within the cells making an explosion now Imagine if that was a fuel tank holding 100 litres
https://youtu.be/gfk8jXVUF34

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>>737355087

>>737355354
Thats not a hydrogen bomb. However your concern is valid, but that problem is the reason why the hydrogen is stored adsorbed onto a metallic lattice

>>737349202

the combination of this sentence, picture and name of the picture is a work of abstract art and utterly hilarious

>>737355581
Fast and furious 1, nitrous explosion because of blue flame. It's an over dramatic Hollywood stunt

>>737355644
I said like a hydrogen bomb not exactly one. The problem is making a tank that is sealed and lead lined but then refueling will be a problem

>>737355748
what do you think they used to make it? Enough hydrogen to power a car for hundreds of miles.

>>737355890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfBeJbXf4w4

>>737355965
Congratulations you found the first video on YouTube now explain to me why it isn't in mass production already?

>>737355890
its nothing like a hydrogen bomb. a hydrogen bomb is the vast release of energy cause by a nuclear fusion reaction triggered by a small fission device. im starting to think your dissertation must be for a liberal arts degree because you know shit all about chemistry and physics

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>>737356143
https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/lianeyvkoff/2016/01/31/hydrogen-vehicles-are-here-and-expensive/&refURL=https://www.google.com/&referrer=https://www.google.com/

>>737356143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVeagFmmwA0

>>737355965

Can you actually see some dumb nigger doing this? kek This is not for the "common man".

>>737356351
Been around for 15 years Aston Martin raced one at le man. You can convert your car to hydrogen power by going certain specialist manufacturers but the way the industry is looking forward has alot of safety elements that makes it risky

>>737356542
https://youtu.be/sAFJTGfKp78

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>>737356696
lol niggers will never be able to afford a hydrogen car lol

https://youtu.be/c3PkgUcI4Z8

>>737350727
Problem with electric motors right now is that in most places the electricity is coming from combustion engines, so you loose even more efficiency than a modern stand alone car engine. Solar and wind technology is shit also compared to the area needed to power the. The future is going to be solar powered heat engines that take solar power and turn a working fluid into a vapor to power a small turbine and generator.

>>737357174
better

https://youtu.be/OFByDMRbucs

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https://youtu.be/I7ZeNZCfaEs

>>737357401
Pretty sure just using solar cells is more efficient.
A good cell turns 25% of the suns energy into electrical energy, whats the point in having 2 more conversions?

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>>737358847
because it gets dark eventually.

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>>737358847
Also you need batteries to store the power batteries are heavy and stupid no point in batteries. Hydrogen is light weight and renewable cheaper to make using solar power and ocean watter. hydrogen can be shipped and transported by vehicles powered by hydrogen. Its a no brainier.

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>>737359447
Also whatever country immersed its self fully in this technology could put its whole populous to work within ten years could amass the greatest war machines every made with the least environmental impact. hydrogen powered subs, plains, tanks, and off road vehicles. Look what the US did after pearl harbor with their hydroelectric damn.

>>737353439
Are you fucking retarded? That either means you have to constantly switch and load batteries, or that you can charge the secondary battery while you are driving, which completely fucking negates the initial goal of having multiple batteries