God tier hip hop albums only
>>737349018
>God tier
>Rap
Choose one.
A culture built by uneducated fuck ups, who's vibrant shortcomings are celebrated by other uneducated fuck ups. In a world where hard work isnt respected, someone rhyming words with absolutely no idea of how to play an instrument or the theory behind it can be considered a musician.
>>737350076
Shut up and enjoy the tunes, guy
>>737350220
There are no tunes. Some one presses play on a computer and another guy talks into a microphone. If you want to call it poetry fine, however it is not music, and rappers are not musicians. In fact, they have ruined black musics, and potentially culture.
>>737350076
>culture built by uneducated fuck ups
>culture built by some of the richest and smartest businessmen
Choose one.
How does it feel to be the least cultured person on /b/?
>>737350220
Anything from DOOM is god tier
>>737349883
>>737349678
>>737349454
>>737349018
Fuck yes.
>>737349579
>honorable mention get
No more (You)s for you
Prolly some death metal fan anyway lmao
>>737350372
Ha fine, call them businessmen, as long as youre not saying its about music...deal.
Obligatory
this.
>>737350368
Nah. What ruined black culture is people living on the same stereotypes as they did back in the 60's. In the early 90's gangsta rap was weaponized in order to keep the divide between classes as wide as was possible. Since then, rap's taken a turn for the better. Even in the bullshit era where guns and drugs were all rap was known for, there were still true poets and musicians doing what they could to get the right idea's heard.
That you have a bias against "black musics" is more about you than it is about the actual state of "black musics".
>>737350430
More of a classic rock fan. You know, people sacrificing time and energy to become great at playing an instrument. As opposed to as has already been stated, to become rich.
>>737350477
>rap isn't music
>fat bearded guys in their 60's slapping a guitar and screaming into a mic is
I didn't know you could choose what music meant my guy.
Also plenty of rappers and producers know how to play instruments or at least basic music theory. The good ones at least.
I like soft rock, too. I can some Christopher Cross with Kanye West on the side. Go away, I don't want your terrible (You)s
>>737350707
It takes an equal effort to become good at anything. Spoken word poetry takes skill, timing, know-how and understanding of your audience and how they'll react to certain stimuli. That's not something you're just born with.
Plus, plenty of classic rockers made music just for the money and status. That's a weak argument, my friend.
Disagree completely. Look up a book called "Blackout" by Paul Porter. He was one of the original executives at BET. He says that Mtv and Bet ruined black music. There were black bands, black musicians (piano, guitar, drums), so of the best ever. However, once all that was needed was some cool words and a cool look, there was no longer a reason to learn instruments. Rapping was EASIER. Sorry gang.
>>737351010
Read my above post. Their was not always money in music friends. Now its the point of music. Additionally, if youre calling rappers poets im on board, called them musicians or it music im not.
>>737350564
This.
>>737349018
>>737350725
Right. Totally. Thats why they bring speakers out on stage instead of instruments.
Stevie wonder, jimi hendrix, j. johnson, bb kind, carter beauford.....all black people in the period your discussing...wouldnt call them fat bearded guys.
>>737350368
Tell me about one thing music wise that is popping without having black influence in it, black culture is bigger than it has ever been.
>>737351041
>some rappers not giving a shit about the art rthey put means all rap is bad
>some rock artists not giving a shit about the art they put out means at least their interests reflect what I think of as valuable and tha they should be excused for it
Music mixing and writing/reciting 5 minute songs without choruses isn't easier than playing guitar, unless you don't actually practice. But in that case, you're gonna be shit at what you do, just like if a guitarist never practices, they'll be shit at what they do. SOmetimes the ones that don't try get picked up because their image is what's in right now. This is true for all genres. This is true for all ages.
>>737349018
>>737351206
It is the point of music because that is what people wants it to be,
if people told rappers they will not get rich of their 16 bars about bagging bitches from left to right i shit you not it will stop happening and they will try to find the next thing.
What the people wants they get, not that hard of a concept
>>737350076
>>737351422
Is that a joke? My point is rappers arent musicians. Society has been dumbed down and no longer respects hard work, it respects cool more. If you sound cool, or talk cool, or look cool. People like you...spending 30 years learning the piano at this point means nothing...i can drive a nice car, make words rhyme and make you feel cool while you drive your car...means Im great in todays society.
>>737350921
Yes
>>737351598
As long as your admitting thats exactly what it is, and not some musical genious' at work...im with you.
>>737351767
Except you can't do any of that shit you faggot.
>>737351767
"society has been dumbed down and no longer respects hard work"
I mean yeah your room is probably a cool place but damn how hard did you get bullied to get these kind of edgy 12 year old phase opinions from. What kind of people are you hanging around with?
>>737352095
Why would I want to? If the crowd is going in the wrong direction, I dont follow it...unlike you it appears.
>>737352198
>>737352047
That is exactly what most of it is, not all. There are musical geniuses in hip hop.
Why are people complaining about "shallow" music? it is like a job these days, if it feeds a family or two and people sit here and complain about it they need to go get some hobbies
>>737352155
Ha....you have no idea who I am...which is almost deserves 2 ha's. There is a very good chance I have more money then everyone you know combined, and my social status would make the paper if I visited your shit hole town. Its ok though, youre forgiven, fore you dont know.
>>737352402
pull up then, make the papers
>>737349018
Lord Infamous - King Of Horrorcore
>>737352645
Again, why would I? Im having a conversation with a bunch of dildos on b, except for one guy who seems pretty rational, about the tenants of rap. While Im admitting talented and brilliant poets they may be, musicians and music they are and it is not. Most in this thread just argue that im wrong without conceding the obvious points. Most likely, as is statistically shown the more hip/hop rap you listen, the lower your likely income. Life sorts you out for being a sheep. Im guessing your language changes, the words you use, what you think is cool is also influenced by what rappers say. "Fleek, turn up" and the rest. Signs of a weak mind easily influenced. Which is what people like myself need to become wealthy. So while I argue with you on here, in actual life I would be encouraging your idiocracy. Two kinds of people, People run things and people who work for them. Rappers make fun of the people who work, and are poor and who dont have what they have....keep on lapping it up...I know they love it.
>>737349018
>>737349454
abso
>>737350157
not god tier but def a worthy mention
>>737350667
i agree
>>737350730
sweet jesus chris
>>737351594
get this horseshoe out of here, only good songs were the singles
birds in the trap sing brian mcknight travis scott
days before rodeo travis scott. kind cutis first two albums
>>737349018
weezy weezy just jumped over jumpman?
You guys seriously not mentioning J.Cole? He revived HipHop where it died. He is the one.
>>737353228
So you need to be able to play an instrument to be a musician?
>>737353228
damn g who hurt you??
>>737353484
Hip hop is what killed rap
Hip hop is the problem, it should stay dead
>>737350667
+1 for this
>>737350076
>>737351767
>>737352402
whoever you are mr. famous, you can fuck off to hell and die. Your opinions on "society" as you see it, and you position in it, are greatly askew. Who do you think you are? You think because you have money you are above everyone else, but you are miserable. What skills have you mastered? Do you know any Philosophy? Have you ever taken lsd or mushrooms? i would highly recommend that you do so. My point is you are a single cell in a massive organism that operates on its inevitable programming. But you have allowed your ego to completely overwhelm all of the obvious signs that you are just on of billions. you think you have never been done before? I guarantee you there was a snotty little shithead in 250 B.C. that looked exactly like you.
Check your self.
pic related to original topic
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>>737353516
Yes, the definition of the word is someone who plays a musical instrument.
>>737352402
"there is a very good chance i have more money then everyone you know combined"
you would make a great rapper mr "NOBODY RESPECTS HARD WORK EVERYBODY IS DUMB MY GENERATION SUCKS"
kill yourself
>>737353838
Im tryna take you serious its kinda hard with that image boy. hopsin is doo doo
>>737352402
holy shit the bait is strong in you
>>737353965
so you say without putting up anything of your own even though you are anonymous.
>>737353228
I think you need to think about the word instrument.
Music has changed with digital. I argue production tools could be referred to as instruments.
Some project nigga doesn't just steal an 808 and make an album, does he? He has to learn that shit. there's an art to it, no?
Learning and artistry? I'd say its close enough to an instrument
>>737353873
So a singer definitely isn't a musician?
>>737354296
Ergo it makes them musicians.
Forgot my own point. I'll show myself out
>>737350627
Hell yeah
>>737354296
You dont need instruments to make music
People have been singing acapella for literally thousands of years, nobodies saying its not music
This retard talking about rap not being music is a fool who knows nothing of the subject matter or music in general
>>737349018
>>737353228
I read law at uni and gained a 1st.
I work in logistics and earn the equivalent of around $200k per year.
I have and always will love rap/hip hop.
Your environment has nothing to do with what musical tastes you have it's about what moves you, what gets inside your soul, what makes your foot tap your head bop.
Your sounding very pretentious anon, to rate a subjective thing like musical genres objectively, makes your comments pointless.
Wiley -playtime is over is one of my personal faves. Ukfag out. Peace. Brap brap
>>737355987
RIP
>>737355987
RIP
>>737349018
No such thing. Take your nigger music and shove it up your ass, faggot.
>>737350921
feel like i have to add this.
>>737356206
this
>>737356142
>>737350627
Great but GKMC is a better album
>>737354091
abso-fucking-lutely
>>737350076
Imean, i understand what you are saying, and i agree to some extent. It's alot about image when we are talking 'mainstream rap', including videos and all. Honestly, the producers do the work and make it happen, create the vibe and catch - obv except the fucking reverby bell melody trap fuckarony.
>>737349018
9
>>737349454
8.5
>>737350157
8.5
>>737350220
8
>>737350430
8.5
>>737350564
9
>>737350627
8
>>737350645
7.5
>>737350730
8
>>737350847
8
>>737351069
8
>>737351594
7.5
>>737352015
8
>>737352466
7
>>737353484
3
>>737354091
9.5
>>737354429
6.5
>>737354471
7
>>737355987
7.5
>>737356083
10
>>737356206
10
>>737356262
7
>>737353838
I can respect Hopsin for being self sufficient. Can't please everyone. I don't dig it tho.
>>737349018
Tennesse mofackas
>>737349883
Hell yeah. Event 2 is amazing as well.
These guys have so many hidden gems in there sad clown series.
>>737356876
fuck you
>>737356464
I like this Anon. 100% agreed
Enter The Wu-Tang and Madvillainy as your only 10s? Did you just hop off Bandwagoning 101? Read enough Pitchfork to form their opinion --I mean your opinion? Man, must be sad thinking those are 10s
>>737357148
>>737357331
I'm sorry if my opinion made you upset.
>>737349018
That wasn't your opinion, though. That was a Pitchfork opinion and the opinions of many others who claim Madvillainy to be the greatest album in Hip-Hop
Hell, it ain't even DOOM's best. 8/10 at best. It's TMTYL
ITT: stupid niggers
Funcrusher Plus
The Cold Vein
The Godz Must Be Crazy
The Future is Now
Vaudeville Villain
Audition
>>737357136
Excellent choice my dood
literally anything this dude puts out
dre barrs - kody knows
I generally listen to older rap, underground o r local
>>737357935
this fuck cant freestyle for shit and i pure fucking trash
the only good shit he sings is the shit put infront of him dumbass
>>737358237
you're a dumbass
>>737356876
Go fuck yourself bro haahh a 3? go troll somewere els
To all of /b/ that's complaining about what real music is, look up the definition of 'music'. It's forms of sound that express beauty, harmony, or emotion. Since we all face different emotions at different times, one cannot be easily moved by a certain genre in a quick instance. It is sometimes a thing you must live to feel. Therefore, when rappers are dealt the hand of an ignorant society that revolves around rebellion against the government in the forms of guns, drugs, and violence, one can't fully see the meaning unless they want to listen or have been in those predicaments theirselves
No bully please
>>737349018
>>737355987
RIP Prodigy
>>737357935
mfw im getting baited hard
>lil yachty disses dead rappers
>lil yachty cant freestyle
>lil yachty is media trained
>lil yachty thinks that cellos are woodwinds
>lil yachty mumbles in all of his songs
>lil yachty isnt deep whatsoever
>lil yachty has a golden and rainbow grill
literally he is the worst rapper of our time
but he has cool hair so that evens it out
>>737358965
cellos are woodwinds you stupid bitch
>>737359121
>im getting baited so hard
The wickett shit will never die,,,,
>>737359299
That just says musical instrument nothing for your stupid wrong argument
>>737357042
Sick...
>>737359326
Literally his worst album, nigga was like 16, I love esham but that shit sucked
>>737349018
>It was written was better
There I said it, fight me
Also this was a damn good album too
>>737357696
My niggera
>>737359956
Yeah man, but dead flowers was the shit. I keep it in rotation
>>737356876
this fucking guy, always this fucking guy with the mass rate.
danny brown and yeezus on the same level as liquid swords, ready to die, and ATLiens?
go to hell anon youre drunk
>>737356142
>>737350076
>>737355987
Well, this is how we gonna do this: fuck Mobb Deep! Fuck Biggie!
Fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label and as a motherfuckin' crew!
And if you wanna be down with Bad Boy, then fuck you too!
Chino XL: fuck you too!
All you motherfuckers, fuck you too!
All of y'all motherfuckers, fuck you, die slow!
Motherfucker, my .44 make sho' all y'all kids don't grow!
You motherfuckers can't be us or see us
We motherfuckin' Thug Life-riders, Westside 'til we die!
Out here in California, nigga, we warned ya
We'll bomb on you motherfuckers! We do our job!
You think you mob? Nigga, we the motherfuckin' mob!
Ain't nothin' but killers and the real niggas
All you motherfuckers feel us
Our shit goes triple and 4-quadruple
You niggas laugh 'cause our staff got guns under their motherfuckin' belts
You know how it is: when we drop records, they felt
You niggas can't feel it, we the realest
Fuck 'em, we Bad Boy killers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qC3w3UUkU
>>737360177
kkkill the fetus
>>737349018
GOD TIER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eocpbmUCRK4
Help me here
>>737360304
>>737360304
>>737360304
No such thing cause hip hop is ooga booga bullshit
>>737353228
I'm super rich and famous but I'll never tell you who I am you just have to accept my bullshit upfront fag
my new mixtabe