does anyone know how to make a anarchy tip?

Start posting true facts to everyone. Get a follower who will do that to. Explain to them how important it is to them and explain that the whatever country you're in needs a "wipe-and-reload". Join. The government that comes about after this and bat them off from trying to make the government work. I do t really recommend this as it is very hard to do and anarchy doesn't wouldn't work well as it requires all people to be good individuals, and most people would fall into a governing type of thing. Again, just like that punk movie said it is better to just infiltrate the system and try to make it run good. But before you do any of this make sure your ideals are correct, no just something you picked up. Review all of them and check whether their correct. Strengthen them and strengthen your pack (anarchists) as a whole. Make sure it is not just opinion or I want this thing

>>736899858
Oh, I should have asked in which direction. Which direction is it? I'm for a centralized global communist-like government where we don't use money, for many reasons. One being that it is a hindrance to the actual economics as it requires the use of certain objects to have values that are not there actual value

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>>736899858
Just make a regular joint you fucking nerd. That's the side that goes in your mouth anyway, retard. You won't even see it. Then, when you finish the joint, you'll just flick the tip away.

>>736901160
Fuck that, reuse the butt end and let that other weed shit in your mouth

>>736899858
Fancy mouth sucking device you got there.

I'm trying to make a star

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>>736902119
nailed it

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>>736900991
You fucking retard that's the opposite of anarchy.

Money is an extremely useful tool. Saying we shouldn't use it is like saying we shouldn't use the internet. The internet allows us to scale our interactions being people we are immediate irl contact with. Likewise money allows us to transact with many more people much more efficiently. Your primitive brain wants to act like a tribe member living in a tribal society but you also want to do it at a modern scale but without the requisite modern technologies like money. Your simple mind has not thought this through.

>>736902293
Money hinders economics. It would be better if we just did our jobs and just gave food, there less energy wasted

>>736902555
The use of currency leads to millions of jobs soley based on transferring money. These jobs are artificial and only usurp value from the real value producers.

>>736900991
>anarchy

>globalized communist government

what the fuck are you smoking m8

>>736902692
Yes, we should move them to actual jobs, even though those are usually nice to have because they are indoors

>>736902878
Anarchy tips

>>736899858
This is the faggiest shit ever. Are you a teenager?
>dude weed lol
>anarchy, totally brah

>>736902878
I wasn't promoting anarchy. I think anarchy would be bad

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>>736902555
whats to stop someone from giving someone else their excess food in exchange for something other than food?
food becomes currency you're back to square one kys

>>736902242
he really did!

>>736903250
No food becomes Barter material. Currency is not Barter material. A non currency economy is better

>>736902692
It's actually very valuable because money is valuable. There may be more efficient ways to move money around that would remove some of those jobs and that would also be a good thing.

Actual producers save a lot of time and effort by using money to complete their work and and live their lives. Someone who grows only sugar cane would have to negotiate trades of sugar cane with every other producer of goods he wants. Money makes it way easier.

I guess what you want is the cane grower gives all his sugar cane over to the government and the government keeps him alive. Haven't seen the outcomes of communism?

>>736903520
Wtf m80

>>736903520
>barter material
wtf do you think money is?

>>736902555
Money does not hinder jobs. Money CREATES jobs.

Imagine that you need food. You go to the local butcher. In this scenario, because there is no money, you would go "I need 5 lbs of beef". He goes "Well I need a new roof." You go, "Well I don't know how the fuck to fix a roof. Be right back."
Then you walk down to the roof guy and go, "The butcher needs his roof fixed, I need some meat, what do you need?" "I need a new tire." "Shit, I don't have a tire."
etc etc etc.

So you spend 3/4 of your fucking life trying to find food.

Money is simply "Proof of work."

The problem is when people get lazy and they let one person collect a whole lot of their "proof of work" without actually doing any work.

This is easily preventable.
1) Get off your lead ass and start your own company and don't go work for a government agency. For every government employee there is NEGATIVE GDP. NEGATIVE GDP creates wealth disparity.
Whenever you think "THERE SHOULD BE A LAW!" You just made a bigger wage gap.
2) End lifelong welfare and be willing to let those who are a drain on society simply die off. But this will literally never happen.

>>736903706
These outcomes could have been because of other governments involvement. There are some successful communist countries

>>736902555
You fucking primitive go find an African tribe that does nothing but gather food, sleep and fuck. It's a pretty efficient way to live until I come with my superior capitalist technology and force you to be my slave. Faggot. (I will also kill your children and take your women)

>>736903951
What's your definition of successful.

>>736903791
In the ideal situation he would just give the beef and the roofer would just fix the roof. Not I want you to do this for that but I need this done and so it will be done. I need this food and because we have it and you need it We will give it to you.

>>736904088
Why would someone do that? He just lost 5lbs of meat for nothing.

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>>736899858
Anon why would you want a anarchy symbol anywhere near you?

>>736904088
This is socialism basically. Not even a barter economy....

>>736904053
Able to take care of their people

>>736903520
You're fucking high.

Currency is LITERALLY bartering convenience.

You could either 1) Trade this table for a handjob. or 2) Trade handjob for $10 then buy the table for $10.

The issue becomes inflation and legislation.
If you trade the table for a handjob, no one knows.
If you trade the handjob for $10, no one knows, but now you have $10. Once you go to get that table...oh shit...heads will roll. You got the IRS involved, the DNR to get the wood, EPA, MMTA, state and local fuel surcharges, property taxes, electric bills, police and fire protecting that table, fuckin...military, insurance and payroll taxes, welfare, FICA...bitch that table is a fucking BADASS now. That $10 table is worth WAY more than a handjob. $50!

Then the handjob guy gets $10 and the other $40 goes to taxes and the other rich faggots who have built a society to protect the table. The privileges of the table can not and will not be infringed.

>>736904088
the problem is the people who make the food dont need roofers every fucking day they need em like one time and then the roofer is screwed unless he can find some other food guy to do the roof of.

Guess what not many people grow fucking food for a living.

>>736904157
Well because we have to take care of eachother. If we don't we fall apart

>>736904290
lmfao quality post anon

>>736904224
And how do you expect them to protect their people from this scenario
>>736904000

Maybe that's why communist countries waste all their resources on their site militaries.

>>736904350
Uh....what fuckin reality do you live in m8? I dont have to take care of you just because you are too useless to do shit for yourself...

>>736904224
This isnt the definition of success just btw...

>>736904423
Which scenario?

>>736904350
Like its the govt who tells me that I cant just go murder people and take their women as my own. Reduce that to rubble and you expect socialism to take place naturally?

Good fucking luck.

>>736904088
http://www.extremelysmart.com/humor/cowsexplain.php

>>736904516
The one where I rape your wife

>>736904441
No, sometimes you do. Like if you get a broken leg. We can't just leave you out of the running. You might be of more use later and more than that you are a person

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>>736904290
Better money is on it's way.

The world will be a better place when people can trade freely and all communists have starved to death.

>>736904634
Yea that requires that you consider me worth saving/spending resources on.

>more than that you are a person

that counts for nothing, I'd save a dog over a human at least you know the dog isnt going to take off in the middle of the night with all your shit.

Weaklings like you die first.

>>736900836
How to anarchy according to Anon:
>establish a hierarchy
>establish a political platform and enforce it, AKA exert power over people's opinions
>move to increase your own power
>protect the in-group, stabilize the system
If you think "true facts™" is going to lead to a stable society with no leaders and good morals then you're both ignorant, dumb and naive. Get your parents to send you to a summer camp or something next year, please.

>>736904793
yea except that money failing means the infrastructure required to trade those currencies wont be there....

>>736904908
>how to anarchy
>establish a hierarchy

kekles

>>736904918
It doesn't

>>736904441
We do.

This is the thing about Bernie Sanders that pisses me off so much.

His #1 talking point is, "Every single first world country guarantees healthcare except the United States." This is a 100% lie.

No countries guarantee healthcare. That is not possible. That would be like guaranteeing that tomorrow will be sunny.
Pretty much all first world countries promise you some kind of health INSURANCE though. The problem with this is that the US does this too.

In the US, it has always been the case that you could go to an ER, and be repaired without question. It is required by law. And every ER must have a Neurologist, etc. There's a level of care that is a minimum. If you're a hobo and you get shot, they fix you and you leave and don't pay, the government pays for it. That's socialized medicine.

We have socialized medicine. We just have a lower LEVEL of free care.

>>736899858
Only pussys use a roach

>>736905056
Ok. How do you trade those currencies minus the internet?

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>>736904918
Government database digits aren't money. When Monero becomes the de facto currency money will have finally succeed, not failed.

>>736905078
>If you're a hobo and you get shot, they fix you and you leave and don't pay, the government pays for it.

That explains why there are people thousands of dollars in medical debt....because the govt jsut pays for it....

>>736905186
When did the internet go down?

>>736899858
Well first you have to suck a lot of dicks.

>>736904793
Well...I don't know that this is better....it's different.

The problem with 'money' isn't the money itself, it's the government entities that are in the country that you live in.

If btc or eth ends up being hugemongous and everyone trades shit with that, it will likely aid in the manipulation of currency value but the simple fact that taxes are allowed is what causes wealth disparity.

In the US, if you make $50k a year, literally 40% of that money is just sucked right out of your paycheck. Just you don't even get it. THEN, you still pay tax on a lot of clothes, food, fuel, your car, home, personal property, sales, etc.

If you think about a fuel surcharge and how that affects the taxes on an item combined with a sales tax...you could pay $5-7 in taxes on a $10 item by the time it gets to your hands.

Even if you were paying $10 in btc, the company that is producing that is still paying those fees. It's just turning btc into USD or EUR and then it's going to the government.

The issue is that the governments need to be systematically dismantled into tiny, little, unrecognizable, states that are so small they have only the power to keep people from stealing shit from each other, putting out fires, and maintaining the roads.

>>736905251
The problem is its DIGITAL. Meaning it requires infrastructure to use. Like at the very least you need an internet connection, a device of some sort and power.

If you removed the USD right now that form of digital currency would disappear for a lot of people.

>>736903265
I'd wet that tip

>>736905320
My point I'm making is the USD is the reason most people have internet (or the euro I suppose) either way if you got rid of them you wouldnt be able to use digital currency because how are you going to pay for electricity when your currency requires you to HAVE electricity?

>>736899858
>anarchy
Cringed

Maybe you can ask some Antifa ticks.

>>736905506
>how warlords are created

>>736905528
The transition would happen gradually. USD won't disappear before new currency is ready. People will find a way to pay each other and the internet will stay up, it's too important.

>>736905294
are you implying that the hobo doesnt just leave?

>>736905294
It costs, on average, half a billion dollars to build a hospital. If all these people are in huge medical debt and are not paying their bills, where do you think the money to build the hospitals is coming from? Hrm.....let me think....

People are so bad at simple fucking math. The yearly discretionary budget for the US was about $1.1Trillion. This is literally ALL the money. That's about $3,666 per person per year.

My medical insurance, which I have had since before any of this bullshit started, covers 90% and has a $1k deductable. It costs $400 a month. That is $4800. Do you propose that we literally DOUBLE the discretionary spending in order to give everyone health care that they would still have to supplement?

>>736902555
Just gave food. Who's food? Someone produced that food. They invested time and energy and effort into making something of worth. Why should you just be given that effort? Money is a way of giving them representative value for the effort they invested. What would you give them for their work without money? More food? They have that. Some of the plastic bottles you made a 1000 of on a factory line? oddly enough, they might not need that. If only there were a way to give them something they could trade for things they might actually need and use? Like maybe currency? Idiot communist. Think through things before you jump on a band wagon.

>>736903791
become vegetarian, problem solved, no need of meat anymore

>>736905724
The USD did not cause internet, it's just currently a common method to pay for internet. I'm sure there are already internet providers accepting Bitcoin somewhere.

>>736905528
USD is almost entirely digital anyway. Only about 10% of USD is even tangible (If that. I don't even believe that number.)

24% of US GDP is just companies moving money around and not actually doing anything. They make interest, play holding games, stock tricks, whatever. That's 1/4 of US monetary growth....stupid.

>>736905506
I think control of money is very important for the government's control of taxes. Also eth is dogshit.

>>736905991
Well, that is a point. btc and eth will need a way to be traded w/o internet.

In the US (at least the east coast) there's really only 3 providers of internet and most places you don't have a choice. You have your choice of Verizon (government), local cable company (comcast==shit), or ATT (which is half merged with verizon now via ATT/time warner/yahoo/aol/disney/whatever).

So, if the US wanted to just ... release anti btc malware and fuck up crypto, then that's about it. Or shape crypto....

>>736905506
So the problem isn't currency then. It's bloated, out of control governments. Identify the root problem. I would agree governments are bloated and decadent. Most of those taxes they collect are also being put towards "public services". AKA everyone contributing to provide for someone that needs something that you neither know nor care about. So communism. So. Really. Even in currency based societies, the problem is communism. If we cut the service programs (welfare, food stamps, adjusted housing prices, etc.) you would get to keep that money instead of paying it to the government.

>>736906178
I don't honestly think I would be using any of the cryptos as actual money in the foreseeable future. I'm more interested in them as investment. I see them as a commodity or as insulation against foreign currency "adjusting me out of my money".

>>736906389
Thats what I've been trying to say is its all well and good to have another currency to replace the USD but its on the internet....so kinda inaccessible compared to paper money.

>>736905850
Yea but the USD is going to fail whether that new currency is ready or not.

>>736905855
No I'm saying the average person isn't a hobo.

>>736906595
I don't really see the point of investing in them besides betting on a future role as money. You could also bet on darknet markets becoming more popular. I think at some point enough people start using these to circumvent problems with traditional money and eventually people will stop seeing the need to trade back into fiat.

>>736906137
I get that but some of it is still availible physically right now bitcoin has nothing tangible physically so if the internet stopped being around that money would be untouchable. Even with the USD you can go to a bank and they can print you out some money in the amount the computer says on it. Bitcoin cant.

Also as an aside and this is really just a question because I dont know. How would the death of net neutrality affect bitcoin and all?

>>736906938
You could give someone a paper wallet as long as they trust that the bitcoins are on there and you haven't recorded it to take them later.

>>736907075
So literally no different than the USD or any other currency?

Is there going to be a bitcoin bank as well where I can save and store my bitcoins for safe keeping allowing large institutions to make unsafe investments with billions of other peoples bitcoins?

>>736906788
>USD will fail ready or not
Good thing these currencies already exist and are being used. Give it a decade and I'm sure Monero will be extremely capable with sencodary layers for scaling. If USD crashes sooner I'm sure crypto development will be greatly accelerated.

>>736906593
Honestly, while I do think a lot of social programs have their issues, I don't really think it's social programs that are the root of the problem.

It is centralized power.

Here's my analogy: Say you're a long time ago before government. Everything is essentially anarchy. Well, that's not really desirable because you have to sit home all day to guard your fucking house.
So, we all get together and go "hey joe, you're a good guy, we all know and trust you and you're not really a very good farmer, why don't you patrol the area for robbers and we'll just give you some food." Joe is now sheriff.

Well then one day, one of your shithead neighbors goes "I don't like that you have that thing on your property over there. Get rid of it." "Go fuck yourself." etc etc.
Shithead neighbor goes to the sheriff and pays him off to make you do it. Now we have a police state.

Now, if there's 100 of you, and you're in the wrong, you suck it up. If there's 100 of you and the sheriff is in the wrong, Then shithead neighbor and the sheriff are strung up in a tree.

The real problem is lack of accountability.

The Constitution says that members of the house will represent 30,000 people. That means the house should be made up of like 11-12,000 members? Well where the fuck are they?

And the states are supposed to have power over the federal government. But we have unfunded mandates. So, "you can do whatever you want...but if you don't we'll take all the money you have ever made in your entire lives away by force." Sounds fair.

>>736907226
Um no, it's pretty different. What is your understanding of how Bitcoin works?

There might end up being banks but you won't have to use them since you can fully participate in the network far more cheaply than you can with today's money.

>>736906876
Wellllllll
if you're an investor, btc acts like it is relatively stable. It moves as if it is a currency and it moves relative to shifts in USD vs Yuan and USD vs EUR etc but you can actually trade it w/o a super computer and an army of programmers.

It also gives you a decentralized "storage" location for money when you're trading currencies that move against each other in unpredictable ways.

As long as it trends up or remains stable over the long term it's better than gold as a commodity and as good as USD as a currency investment.

>>736899858

Developing autism is a good place to start

>>736907619
>As long as it tends up or remains stable
You are aware it likes to dip for years at a time?

>>736906938
There's a bitcoin atm by my house.

The biggest problem I have with btc etc as a currency is that the transaction fees and values are so erratic.

It could cost you pennies for a coffee today and your whole ass tomorrow. No one will use these for actual money until they're stable for YEARS.

Who wants to go to work for a week then not be able to buy a fucking pizza?

>>736906593
The root of the problem is centralized government but the root of centalized govenment's power is control of centalized money.

>>736907296
Crypto will not last a decade.

DO NOT FORGET HOW CRYPTO WORKS!

All crypto is based on a fluke of math that quantum computers can break! The mass production of the first quantum computer will render ALL conventional encryption USELESS! Including currencies.

>>736907414
I would agree that emphasizing state level power over central government would be drastically better. In my view the central government should provide a military, control borders and immigration, and maintain roads ( maybe schools, can't decide if privatized schools would be better or worse) and that's about it. I would say everything else should be at a state or local level to increase accountability and more directly address the local problems. But having no centralized government is a problem too. Because people like to gather in groups biologically. So let's say you choose to have no government, but the people one "country" over (I say that in quotes because there is no country if you have no government.) decides they want a government. Suddenly they have a huge power advantage over you and eventually they absorb you and force you to obey their government. So there needs to be one, you just want the most bare bones version you can get away with.

>>736907927
No there's plenty of research into quantum resistant crypto. I'm very confident quantum computers won't kill crypto currency. If it does though, there will be a lot of other things that are totally fucked.

>>736907922
Questionable.

It's pretty easy to live all cash if you want to. People are just too lazy to do it.

The root problem is that your average person is terrible at math and they're lazy.

Just about every mass uprising against the government in history is directly related to rising food costs. If you make food readily accessible to people, you can control them. The rest is just icing.

>>736902119
you mean batman logo, right?

>>736908145
If everyone lived all cash the government could still print more cash to cover it's every growing debt. Having unlimited money makes you pretty powerful.

>>736908015
Initially, the concept of the US was to have states as part of a union. The Federal government was ONLY to run the post office, manage interstate roads, and protect the borders. Several of the founders even though that the idea of a standing army was ridiculous. (Look back, during the revolution, the military was essentially rented from rich locals.)

In the case of a tax, the federal government was to determine their budgetary needs, then each representative was to be allocated "how much money their district needed to raise" essentially and they would go back to the state to determine how the STATE would raise the money then pay the state would pay the federal government.

This way, each representative had to attend council in DC, account for spending, then explain to those they represented what they were spending money on and then discuss how they would raise the money.

THIS IS ACCOUNTABILITY. Now they all just sit in DC and suck money from your pay and spend it on whatever the fuck they want. I would be willing to bet that 95/100 people don't even know the name of their representatives.

>>736908137
Quantum (entangled) crypto is more reliable and quantum computer proof.

When you see that come on the market (it's much easier to impliment than a quantum computer) then you'll know that quantum computers are close behind.

Most of the encryption we use now relies on semi-primes. That will all be fucked by quantum computers.

>>736908444
Printing more cash makes the cash worth less.

Using only cash makes it almost impossible to trace purchases. That's why they like the electronic purchases. Everything is taxed.

You can't be sure your handjob is taxed when you pay with cash.