Not a fur thread Volume 3

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>>736866061
I do not own or wear skirts, it is just a meme.
This is me in a skirt.

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Who else would completely plow this canine beauty?

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Not everything is about you, Eisen. Also hello.

>>736866051
Demos is pretty grody.

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eisen more like shotasen

>>736866213
that is far to cute to be you, but I will let it go

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>>736866067
At least your art is something different. I've been here too long and I just don't care for reaction images.

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>>736866291
Fishdogs improve my mood.

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thankfully most things are about me

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>>736866341
I can see why, just post them forever

>>736866221
Why do you shitpost animals in a furry thread? Zoophiles are already ubiquitously hated. You just make us look worse, and even make avatarfags look decent.

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>>736866306
But Peter Lorre was a brilliant actor.

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>>736866442
Fuck off faggot, hardcore animal fucking should be the national past time.

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>>736866406
Thankfully I could fill hundreds of threads with them before running out.

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>>736866546
thank god fish dog is popular with the autists

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>>736866713
For good reason.
They are adorable and amazing and Darwin hates them and makes me cry.

>>736866501
No. This is why I hate myself. Haven't you heard the saying "a bad apple can ruin the whole bunch"? These are already bad apples that you're making worse.

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>>736866796
Why do you hate yourself? Let's talk through it. I can help you.

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>>736866548
I like you anon. I'm going to bed but I hope to see you on here again.

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>>736866952
Thanks dude best wishes to you too.

>>736866921
Because everyone is already disgusted with zoophiles, and you have to go and fuck it up more. This is why no one talks about it. You make us look far worse than we already are.

>have seen crossdressers in stores
do you mean like 40 yr old in pastel dresses or

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>>736867096
Ultimately, anyone will always hate you for any reason. Try to pay less attention to what other people think. It will make you happier.

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I saw someone you could possibly consider a crossdresser on the street. He was a man, in a dress, and carrying a purse, wearing combat boots on very hairy legs, and he had long curly hair and a beard. No makeup.

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>>736867063
I used to think you were an alright guy. You gave me some good advice once.
You're lifestyle is unorthadox but I've never been one to stop people living how they want however since you're bringing those pics to a g/fur thread it's clear you're just a shitposter.

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>>736867317
>It will make you happier.
No it won't.

>>736866774
>>736867218

>>736867469
>you're bringing those pics to a g/fur thread

>literally name thread "not a fur thread"

YOU
CANT
WIN
WITH
THESE
PEOPLE

>>736867317
No it won't because animal fucking is still illegal in most places, and dipshits who do stupid shit like that makes it illegal in more and more places. Stop flaunting the fact that you're a zoophile. It's not something to be proud of. Whether your a zoophile or not doesn't change the fact that it's morally reprehensible. If you want it to become normal, start acting like it.

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>>736867469
It's s/fur dude. Why are you posting gfur in a sfur thread?

Glad to know I Helped at least one person.

>>736867596
Yes but before gay rights became a thing it was banned everywhere too. This is the push against it before zoos eventually push back. Once you start getting public zoos coming out, it will be legal in no time.

I love being zoosexual dude but you seem pretty self-loathing about your desires, similar to gay people in the 80s. Why not just accept it without stressing about it?

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>>736867554
Yes those, not the ones that come even close to passing.

>>736867586
Well shit, my mistake. For some reason I thought it was marked as g/fur.

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>>736867747
I saw a passing in walgreens the other day
fortunately my gaydar went off and I noticed.

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>>736867586
Calmate, chico.

>>736867746
You know there is an actual s/fur thread up right now.

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>>736867750
Terrance programmed those shitty markers to auto-assign based on the OP creator.

It will mark any thread I make as G/fur.

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>>736867863
The funny thing is it's not actually marked as g/fur.
Since I don't know what the fuck this thread is I'm going both ways.

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It's actually most likely based on IP address, so even if I shed my tripcode I wouldn't be able to escape it.

>>736867987
"Not a fur thread" would encompass both types.

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>>736867833
Yeah it's this one. I don't see gfur anywhere.

>>736867746
This isn't even close to gay rights. Homosexuality exists in nature and was only illegal because of Christian fucktards. These aren't even in the same order of creatures.

Maybe because I want to be able to express who I am without being judged? I can't do that if people just flaunt it and shitpost with it. It's that attitude that keeps zoophilia from being normalized. Extremism only leads to more extremism. You're just going to make the punishments worse.

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>>736868108
Well do whatever you want. It's clear now that this isn't a g/fur thread.

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>>736868198
I don't think so man. Punishment will get bad up to a certain point, but just like the gays people will eventually publicly protest in the streets.

There is more at stake for us than for homos to be honest. For a homo, you could get put in jail or whatever back then, but for a zoosexual, they could literally KILL your wife in some shitty kill shelter while you rot in jail awaiting trial. That's worth fighting for, and many people will put their faces on the news to save their loved ones from death.

More publicity only helps it in the long term.

>>736868236
Yeah I only tend to post in sfur never gfur. Not sure where you got that idea. I never used to post in sfur but I saw other zoos doing it so might as well.

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>>736866774
just beat darwin up till he likes fish doggies

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>>736868528
It's okay when i'm feeling sad he compliments them to show he cares.

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>>736868495
It's because the thread before it was g/fur and it was linked as the next thread.

>>736868495
No it isn't worth fighting for. I'm pretty sure you don't go announcing to the world that you fuck animals, and no sane person would. And would you really want to risk your life over this? Because I sure as fuck wouldn't. And I'm pretty sure you know who Whitney Wisconsin is, and all the backlash she got. No one else is going to do that because no one is stupid enough.

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>>736868714
No one said it was a continuation

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>>736868495
They often don't kill the animal in instances of zoophilia. What they opt to do instead is find a person to adopt the animal and prevent you from owning animals from then on.

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>>736868588
adorable
its to bad you will never meet him irl because its darwin

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>>736868761
I probably would if my soulmates were held prisoner awaiting euthanasia in a shelter. Like I would give a fuck what people think.

>>736868847
In most cases, nobody wants to adopt a dog with a history of sexual abuse. If you don't know what you're talking about don't say anything. We zoos know dogs die most of the time after those news stories you see.

So the police "save" them from sex by killing them. Fucking barbaric.

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>>736868787
I don't know then. I wasn't paying much attention. Too many namefags for me to feel comfortable posting there.
I make stupid assumptions sometimes.

>>736868944
Clearly you do if you would only do it in a certain instance.

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>>736868942
That's okay I don't do IRL anyway.
I avoid pictures and voices and anything else similar like the plague.

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>>736869008
I wouldn't go public now, but if some shitty bigot took my dogs I would start a website and start marching in the streets. Loudly.

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>>736869150
brb sending webm of me with voice

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>>736868944
I do know what I'm talking about because I used to actively research fetishes when I was in college. Animals who have been abused are more often than not adopted by people who feel it is wrong to kill an animal for a thing that isn't their fault. It's the same with fighting dogs.

In the incident involving Kenneth Pinyan and a horse which resulted in the death of Pinyan, the horse was castrated and adopted by another person who took care of it.

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>>736869273
I will gouge out my ear drums.

>>736869335
but what of your eyes?
you shall still see my purity

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Anyway this isn't the thread I was looking for so I'm out. Enjoy whatever this is supposed to be.

>>736869168
Why not? You want us to have rights, don't you? Why not start now? Don't get me wrong, I don't want to have to hide a huge part of who am, and will fight if needed, but until I start seeing people forming militias for/against zoo, and we start getting lynched, I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.

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>>736869419
I just assume gazing upon you will cause them to boil or burn out in some way.

>>736869506
im a fraid knot
you will be filled with new, vigorous energy
to masturbate

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>>736869630
Sounds unpleasant. I will start scooping them out with a rusty spoon right away.

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>>736869305
Bullshit, they are usually euthanized. Fuck off with that feel good propaganda shit. Nobody takes in a dog with sex history. They rot in a cage for a few weeks, then get legally murdered by "animal lovers".

Horses may be different though. I know for a fact dogs often die.

>>736869478
Because it might result in my dogs getting MURDERED by people who want to "protect" them from sex. Don't you understand the risk involved?

People against it don't give a shit about the animal. They just want to hate on something so they feel their superior in their pathetic lives. It's always been that way since the dawn of time.

>>736869305
I don't even think it's worth it talking to this guy. He even tried to say that "I know" all about them euthenizing dogs when I've never heard of that. This is why I hate myself: it proves that we're all fucked in the head anyway.

>>736869688
I never heard of any such thing.

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>>736869676
ill rust spoon you

To be fair, it's not really worth ever talking to Dash either so they're both wasting each other's time.

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>>736869824
b-be gentle

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>>736869899
b..but my edges are jagged!

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>>736869700
Do you even frequent any zoo boards or forums?

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>>736869688
Just like nobody wants to adopt a dog with a history of being used in dog fights? I want you to provide hard evidence that dogs who have been specifically sexually abused are euthanized more often than dogs abused in other ways.

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>>736870053
That's alright, cut me to ribbons~

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>>736866027
reminder to avoid cutfags like the fucking plague

>>736870077
Why the fuck would I ever want to associate myself with you people? It's the same reason people don't want to associate fursuiters with people who just enjoy the art. I fucking hate myself for being a zoophile.

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>>736870121
slice slice, baby

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>>736870099
Dog fights are pretty different. I think they would be adopted pretty easily because of the pity.

I have no real hard evidence, just a lot of zoos on various forums and boards saying they see the same thing. I'm inclined to believe them. I'm not prepared to see it for myself obviously. No thanks. But I feel bad for those zoos whose dogs were killed while they awaited trial.

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>>736870243
Our store plays the same like 40ish songs over and over again all day and that is on there.

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>Since the dawn of time
Okay, so you're VERY clearly full of shit. Are we forgetting the Greeks, Romans, Indians, Cambodians, Japanese, etc. all practiced sex with animals and produced graphic depictions of it? We're also clearly ignoring the depiction in a few paleolithic rock art sites that feature human beings copulating with animals.

>>736870321
So you have a bunch of people just like you yelling into an echo chamber with no hard evidence at all? Gotcha.

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>>736870227
If you don't know what happens to zoos dogs then don't comment on the matter. Many have lost their soulmates due to bigoted laws.

I don't get why you hate zoos so much and honestly I doubt you are one. Fapping to feral art is not zoo by any means.

>>736870417
Damn I feel your pain. Start a business man.

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>>736870435
I'd take the words of people who experienced it over one non-zoo with no experience on the matter.

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guys stop

>>736870449
And that is very unfortunate, but until I have a reason to fight, I'm not going to say a damn thing to anyone.

I don't hate zoos; I hate myself because I have to associate myself with the loud, obnoxious minority that ruin everything for everyone else. No one gets with zoophilia is about. Imagine trying to defend yourself when literally the world is against you, and no one is at your side. That's what you're doing.

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>>736870417
retail truly is cancer

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Zoophilia is one of the oldest fetishes known to man. The only one we know as old is animal role play, also depicted in rock art sites.

>>736870524
One person who isn't a zoophiliac yet who actively researched fetishes for the entire time he spent in college over some weirdos on the internet who are just repeating the same thing over and over? Sure, you do you, bud.

Also, if you are talking about an emotional/romantic as well as a sexual attraction to animals, it's not zoophilia, it's zoosexuality, which is gaining some traction in field of human sexuality.

>>736870894
>zoosexuality
Wait, what? Didn't I have an argument with you a year ago or so defending it as a sexuality, and you saying it's just a fetish?

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>>736870879
It is the worst.

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>>736870796
I grew up in poverty and built some kind of life for myself so I'm used to the world being against me. The world sucks, so it can't possibly intimidate you. It's more focused on fighting itself than on fighting you. Remember that.

You shouldn't say anything to anyone obviously. I mean, if you only fap to feral art that's hardly zoo. You'd need to have your own animal and treat her like an equal to call yourself an actual zoo. Until then you're just a feral furry.

>>736870894
Many people have lost their dogs. That much I do know. Especially in Arizona.

Yeah, zoosexuality is more specific. Zoophilia is kind of an umbrella term so I don't like using it because you ALWAYS get these asinine responses about "hurr Im zoo but I dont fuck animals". Well, if you don't have anything sexual with animals then you're just another normal person. Don't call that zoo. I got tired of arguing with those people.

It's zooSEXUAL because it involved fucking animals, not just non-sexual animal lovers REEE

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>>736871125
I'm not willing to state whether or not it is a fetish because I am not qualified to do so. I am saying that there is growing support within the field of psychology that specifically deals with human sexuality that states that there is such a thing as zoosexuality, which is the romantic and sexual attraction to animals just like homosexuality is the romantic and sexual attraction to members of the same sex and so on.

>>736871294
Again, I'm going to need to see some hard evidence that states specifically that dogs with a history of sexual abuse are euthanized more often than dogs with histories of other types of abuse.

I have literally never heard a person state that they are a zoosexual because they love animals and don't also have sex with them.

>>736871294
Yeah, me too. That's why keep my mouth shut: I'm tired of fighting, and just want to live in peace.

I don't fap to feral art at all. I don't like it. I occassionally fap to videos in my folder which I keep on a separate drive, but I generally try to distance myself from it as much as possible. But, when it comes down to it, I still pleasure my dog when she's desperate and in heat. She lives with my parents and the rest of my family, but I still call her mine because I love her.

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Let me rephrase that. It IS a fetish, I am not willing to say whether or not it is ALSO a sexuality.

>>736870215
>implying i had the choice to be a cutfag

>>736871193
at least you now have money!
how much an hour?

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>>736871612
I used to debate with zoophiles who were against animal sex, which was just completely as asinine as you would imagine.

Like I said, if you want proof, you'll have to browse beastforum and the old zoochans along with the older forums. There were lots of stories on there.

>>736871715
Well that sounds nice I guess. What could be the problem? Not like you'd ever tell anyone about it. Treat her like an equal adult, not a stupid animal or a kid, and you will truly see everything her soul has to offer.

She's gonna die way before you will so don't waste her limited years on earth suppressing it. You'll look back and only see regret.

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>>736871995
Stories are not evidence.

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>>736872203
I think actual zoo boards over a period of years are a bit more credible than your isolated examples.

What makes it so hard to believe that an average family of a white picket fence and 2.5 kids would intentionally choose a dog who has literally fucked a human over any of the other dogs widely available from shelters? You can't possibly be that self-deluded.

Zoos talk about it among each other because it actually does happen.

>>736871612
Well, that's interesting. I'm not going to hold it against you, but I definitely remember you saying that zoosexuality doesn't exist, or at least until there's more proof. But hell, I guess all I can do is compliment you since I'm not the only one saying that anymore. That makes me feel better about being zoo by itself.

>>736871773
Ah, alright. That's what I remember. Well, as long as people are spreading the word, I don't care.

>>736871995
The problem is that I'm an extremely empathetic person, so I constantly feel all the burdens of the people ashamed of being zoo.

I treat animals with the utmost respect, far more than humans. I definitely know that animals can love in ways others don't understand, but that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of people still don't. It's that burden that I have to bear constantly, and why I get so angry when people spam zoo.

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>>736872495
Don't worry about it dude. The jews at the top are pushing bestiality and pedophilia pretty hard in the media, so it'll be legal in no time. At least those fuckers do one thing right.

Why does something have to be popular for you to not feel bad about it? Who cares dude? Just take care of your dog and enjoy your life. There will always be haters of some kind in your life. Are you going to feel depressed because some asshat is cheering for a sports team that opposes yours?

Just relax more.

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>>736872434
Because it's an animal that needs a good home. They very rarely tell you about the problems of the animal unless it requires very specific ways of homing, such as with fighting dogs not being allowed around other dogs.

They talk about it among each other for the same reason that there was all that talk about Obama creating death camps to kill Christians back in 2008. It's one person who said something crazy, or misread a thing, and then they spread it around the people who think just like them. So no, hearsay isn't by any means credible, especially when we are talking about statistics, psychological studies, and so on.

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>>736871813
Only 10.
It keeps me afloat.

>>736872908
more than enough tbh, I make the same

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>>736873197
I only get 27 hours a week, but I do not really need money the job is mostly just a luxury and a practice in responsibility.

<3

>>736872749
I haven't seen anything about zoos in media, but I don't pay attention to it. Although I do believe the Jew stuff, and see how that could have influence.

I have a lot of problems. Even the slightest bit of negativity can make me completely depressed in the best of times. This is especially true of people. I'm going to spare you my life's story, but a lot of it was unwarranted hate, so I feel like I have to make everyone happy and friendly, to me and everyone else because I don't want anyone going through what I did. I just want everyone to like me. It's impossible for me to relax.

Ewe

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>>736872851
Look I seriously doubt that. I used to work in shelters and their histories were always disclosed. I never came across a sex abuse case but they always gave you details about their history from whatever was available in their file.

You don't know what you're talking about. Period.

They fucking kill zoos' dogs after kidnapping them from their loving home and then imprisoning them in a cage feeding them LITERAL DOG MEAT from whatever discount giant brand cannibal crunch cereal mixes they carry.

https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-industry-exposed/euthanized-pets-dog-food/

How do you think that makes us feel? It's pretty fucked up. Something worth marching for if it ever came to that.

If that happened to me I would literally not be able to handle it. I would shoot the shit out of the faggot trying to kidnap my dog, no questions asked. Badge or no badge, I don't give a fucking shit. Nobody will do that to my dogs.

>>736873415
Well, bestiality references are in everything from Family Guy to Geico commercials and even on the radio I heard something about fucking sheep. I couldn't believe it.

>Even the slightest bit of negativity can make me completely depressed in the best of times.

This is usually a sign of past stress or bad history. It all comes back when something hits the tipping point. It happened to me too. The only cure is money, trust me.

I grew up the only white kid in a black ghetto so I understand dude. Don't worry, things will be fine as long as you have some money. Start a business.

I want a horse pussy

>>736873274
it is better than doing nothing, at least
money to spend on degenerate sex toys

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>>736874525
I don't need any sex toys though.

>>736874615
any MORE sex toys*

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>>736874725
I do not have any though.

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>>736873649
>I grew up the only white kid in a black ghetto
Yep, same here. I don't want to brag, but I honestly have the purest heart of anyone I've ever met, and it's impossible to deal with the fact that people hate for no reason. That's why I don't talk about my being a zoophile: they'll have an actual reason to hate me.

While I did grow up in the ghetto, my parent's business has been very successful the past few years, and I can speak for myself and say that money doesn't make you happy. Pic very related.

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>>736875200
Zoos often have pure hearts which is why we connect to animals and fail to relate to people. Be careful because most people see that from a mile away and instinctively take advantage of it.

Don't talk about it in public dude. You can be quite vocal online but public is a different story. People already have had enough of the LGBT shit pushed on them, so don't add a zoo thing. It's rude.

Lol your dog looks like quite a high class stripper. I hope you have fun with her. My business is working too so I'm really stoked on the future possibly not sucking as hard as the rest of my life has so far. We will see. Only time will tell.

>>736874779
oh, fucking nerd....
go to bed~

>>736875433
Too late for that. I'm already fucked up beyond all repair.

I know, but I hate that I can't talk about it, and that people just don't get.

I do. She's really sweet. Good luck with your business but I'll tell you the key to happiness: it's within. Now, finding that is a whole nother story.

>>736876067
I will soon

>>736876248
let me join you pls -.-

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>>736876317
No, it is too hot for bed sharing.

>>736876373
we can fill the room with AC and a fan, so hot+cold

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>>736876490
I don't own AC or a fan though.

>>736876704
oh.... just move to a better house then ~.~

>>736877059
It almost hit 100 today, I could see the gates of heaven.

>>736877533
my room can get to 130. but it was a cool 70 here all day :3c

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>>736876173
Come on dude, this is 4chan. You can talk abot your problems. Not like anyone cares.

You remind me of myself when I was younger, but more financially well off. You literally have nothing to worry about. Make some good investments with that money and you will be retired at 25 with whatever dogs you choose.

>>736876704
That sucks dude. I bought my A/C for $30 on craigslist and it has worked great this summer.

>>736878062
I don't have any money myself. I don't live with my parents anymore. I'm broke as fuck, but I know from experience that I wasn't happy when I did have that money. I don't think I'll ever be happy. I sure as hell won't be able to accept myself ever.

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>>736878715
What exactly is wrong though? You seem to be fine. Won't your parents help you?

>>736878976
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SLEdsI731J4

Not really. I don't like my mom either. Again, I'll spare you the details.

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>>736879161
Lol, you are funny man. Why are you depressed though? Bad family? I had the same too but we worked through it after years of running a business together.

You seem like a smart guy. I think you will be okay in life. Just try to get to the root of why you are depressed.

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>>736878057
We are already steam friends you dunce.

>>736879314
I don't fucking know, man. I don't even know where to begin. Being a zoophile is a good start.

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>>736879581
Not sure why that would depress you. Maybe try dating human women and see if it helps you? I never felt the need to do that myself but if it hurts you so much then maybe you might need to move away from it I guess? Or maybe you are just struggling with acceptance. Trust your instincts.

>>736879698
How? We're one of the most hated groups of people on the planet, second only to pedophiles. That makes me feel extremely guilty by itself. I don't know how people can live with that.

>>736879423
I am told you are never on steam tho

>>736879988
This is true

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>>736879987
I don't think that's true man. We may be the brunt of many Irish jokes about sheep, hillbilly jokes, etc but we're hardly the 2nd most hated.

>>736880313
That's because people are disgusted with us. Animals aren't even human. Remember when I mentioned Whitney Wisconsin and all the backlash she got? And I have seen plenty of articles involving zoophilia, and all the comments aalways talk about how sick and disgusting we are, and how we need help, even if it's good, like the guy and the dolphin. And you can live with the fact that just about everyone on this planet would torture and kill you because of it?

>>736880183
I just wanna talk with you more -.-

>>736881127
I am just very difficult to get in contact with, you can find me in these threads I visit sometimes. I am on the other board more than this one lately.

>>736881207
that is a lot of effort, and our schedules dont mix well
I will try, though

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>>736873649
Yeah, sure thing. All of that is totally true. You worked in animal shelters, all dog food is made from dead dogs, yep. Totally.

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>>736881374
Either way is fine, I pop up places with no real pattern. I am on less now that I work.

>>736881831
understandable, what is your usual work schedule?

>>736881831
These stupid ass images are cute as hell.

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>>736880738
Well yeah but even though backlash is bad now that doesn't mean it won't change. When I was a kid being gay was like being zoo today. It has changed extremely quickly in 20 years. Not that I necessarily agree with that, but it does seem likely to favor zoos in the near future.

I think people have too many of their own problems to think about torturing and killing others. Except maybe terrorists and the like i guess. And who cares what they think, they'd probably do it for any reason not just zoo.

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>>736881978
changes from week to week.

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How I miss you
When you comin' home?
Where you been to?
You can telephone
Since the time when I still find it now
That our love is
Just a passing thought
I kissed you on a Saturday
I miss you even more today

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You know it kills me
When you're gone so long
I said I'm sorry oh I was wrong
I kissed you on a Saturday
I miss you even more today
Even more today
Even more today

>>736882858
oh, right, retail

Stay in my mind 'til it's my time
And may you be there when I see the light
Something we found on hallowed ground
Your memory will never be put down...

They say the good they die young
They say the wicked live too long
I hope yer hearin' this in heaven
Now that yer gone I hear a song
Sung to me ten angels strong
It hurts to leave but at least yer free...

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It's hard to see things how they are
Look in closely but it's very hard
I kissed you on a Saturday
I miss you even more today
Even more today
Today
Today

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>>736881710
http://www.snopes.com/pets-in-pet-food/

https://www.fda.gov/aboutfda/centersoffices/officeoffoods/cvm/cvmfoiaelectronicreadingroom/ucm129131.htm

http://truthaboutpetfood.com/epa-document-proves-euthanized-dogs-and-cats-are-rendered/

>ctrl+f
>euthanize

I feel so alone on a Friday night.

>>736883308
I'm sorry.

>>736883353
>Forgot to refresh this page so the filter would work

Why are you sorry?

nini Zac, I'm going to sleep

>>736883425
I don't know. Whatever I did to make you cringe hard enough to filter me. And then twitch texted me saying he wasn't happy about the thread as if he was an authority figure, which made me lose my shit and started a fiasco there.

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>>736883285
Yes, I'm aware that some dog food companies have done that in the past and still continue to do that. What you ought to be doing instead of bitching endlessly about what dog food is made from you should instead try and increase the funding of animal shelters so they don't have to purchase cheap dog food manufactured in substandard conditions. Also the reports of transmissible spongiform encephalopathy occurring in dogs and cats are so rare that they may as well be non-existant. And as such there is no danger found in the feeding of dogs and cats to one another as the very few reports of TSEs in dogs and cats have been of the bovine variety. There is no naturally occurring TSE in dogs or cats.

>>736883673
You're just very dramatic, I can't always keep up anymore.

nini water doggy

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>>736883703
If you think feeding our pets the chemically euthanized remains of other people's pets is okay, then I'm sorry but you're sick.

>>736883915
Ethical.
>>736883703
Logical.

>>736883971
Youre nuts lol. Seriously. I bet you think human cannibalism is okay too right?

Its like soylent green but its happening right now. It's only a matter of time before they start using people in hamburgers.

>>736884140
Ethical still. Not bad, but I'm pointing out how both of you are debating.

If I was on a plane that crashed atop a mountain, I'd eat someone to survive. Does that make me a cannibal? I don't care what people think of me, so long as I survive.

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The only known TSEs are-

Human:
Cruetzfeldt-Jakob's Disease
Variant Cruerzfeldt-Jakob's Disease
Kuru
Fatal Familial Insomnia
Gerstmann-Sträussler-Scheinker syndrome

Scrapie is found only in sheep and goats

Chronic Wasting Disease found only in Elk and certain types of deer.

Transmissible Mink Encephalopathy found only in mink.

Mad Cow found in cows, as Variant CJD in humans, and as Feline spongiform encephalopathy in domestic cats.

Exotic ungulate encephalopathy found in nyala and greater kudu.

There is no naturally occurring TSE found in domestic cats and no TSEs at all found in dogs.

>>736883915
>>736883971
We are talking about animals that do not contract prion diseases (TSEs) from cannibalism. And the only prion disease found in domestic cats are because of the consumption of meat tainted with Mad Cow.

We are also talking about animals that, when you are alive and feeding them are happy little campers, but if they were locked in a room with your dead body would eat your god damned face after a day.

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>>736884235
Dude are you serious? There is an overwhelming abundance of food but they use euthanized dogs and cats to save like 2 cents per pound.

You are fucking retarded dude. This shit needs to be exposed and made public.

>>736884378
Agreed.
>>736884405
As true and sad as it is, that's corporate greed. I hate the thought too, but logically, nothing will change.

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>>736884472
I think it might change if more people get the word out. I doubt most people would think it's "ethical"

>>736884703
Once you manage to fix Foxconn or any other child labor area or unsafe living conditions, then it really must be logical instead of ethical. Because it's all about saving costs and gaining money, even pennies at a time.

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Just because you don't like to think Fido or whatever being ground into meat to be eaten by other animals or people etc. doesn't make it inherently wrong. There is no morality in the animal kingdom, the natural world is brutal. WE as human beings need to stop imposing OUR ideas of morality upon things which it does not apply to.

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>>736884841
Well I'm against Foxconn and other places like that too. When workers are committing suicide that's a problem.

>>736885266
But logically, that's how the company can keep their profit margins high and their expenses low.

Morally, that's not a way to live. But it is the world we live in. People murder for a higher financial status, and so on.

I'm super tired so I can't debate, keep your hopes up kid, but realize the truth.

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>>736885409
We can lobby for better laws so that every pack of Iams and Purina will have emboldened on the front "CONTAINS DOG AND CAT BYPRODUCTS". Then maybe their profit will have to align with a common sense of human and animal decency.

The truth is we can change what these shitty corporations do to us and to animals.

>>736885710
Then go start your Kickstarter.

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Being against something is not the same thing as being for something else. Would you be willing to pay more for the same product if it was manufactured in working conditions that are considered both safe and where the workers were paid a living wage? I would, absolutely, but the fact of the matter is the vast majority of people aren't. Who gives a shit if some poor Chinese kid on the other side of the world is working 18 hour days in horrendous conditions with no medical treatment, barely any food to survive, etc? You don't know the kid, and so long as you don't see it, it isn't a problem. Hell, even if you do see it, it's only a problem until you forget about it and move onto the next distraction.

I am entirely for the paying of a livable wage to workers, to the raising of working conditions into something that is not literally toxic, to reduce greatly the amount of hours worked into a six hour shift, to providing regular breaks, medical attention, etc. to workers. I am also entirely willing to pay more for a product to ensure these conditions are met. And as such, since these conditions are not met for the vast majority of the places in which most products are manufactured, I purchase next to nothing.

>>736885710
That wouldn't change anything. People would go, "OH NO!!! ...It is the cheapest they have available though..." People are fundamentally disgusting. At the end of the day, it's whatever will save them the most money and fuck everything else.

Girlfriend wants her laptop back, you guys are all right. Have a good one.

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>>736885758
You know maybe that's a good idea.

>>736885834
I really hope you're wrong about that but you're right that normal people don't look at animals the same way.

A law requiring it would still be nice though.

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>>736886004
It's not just animals. It's everything. Clothing, phones, etc. People do not give a shit. We live in a culture that upholds greed as the greatest virtue there is. We reward the greedy, we look the other way when corporations do horrendous things so long as it saves us a fucking nickle on a pair of jeans. It's already been exposed that the major manufacturers of dog and cat food use dogs and cats in their food. I remember when that story broke. And what happened? Moral outrage, it was in every newspaper, on every news show, and then? Nothing happened. People stopped caring and started paying attention to some new thing, Kanye West's baby, or what's Caitlyn Jenner going to do about her dick, or whatever.

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>>736886340
>It's already been exposed that the major manufacturers of dog and cat food use dogs and cats in their food.

No it hasn't. When you tell people they are honestly surprised. It's not exactly common knowledge. I don't think it will be legal much longer if it does get exposed.

Just think about it. Dog food should have the same hazardous for health warning as cigarettes with the euthanized dog meat label on the front.

With more publicity it will happen.

It's not deadly like cigarettes tho

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>>736886466
Not because they didn't know, but because they forgot. The story broke, there was moral outrage, people swore they'd never buy that stuff again and then they forgot all about it and went out the next time they needed food for their pets and got the same shit. They forgot because they stopped giving a fuck after a week. Nothing will change. They put warnings on alcohol and tobacco, people still smoke and drink. Those industries alone bring in billions of dollars in sales annually. We just don't fucking care. I mean hell, I was a five pack a day smoker. I only dropped down to a pack a day because I couldn't afford to smoke that much anymore.

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So long as greed is seen as a virtue in this world, nothing is going to change at all.

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bump

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>>736886793
See but that's the thing. Information must be spread over multiple generations. If it happens once it is easily forgotten. It must be reapplied for a number of years until everyone finally knows the truth.a

Those warnings prevent a lot of deaths, so it still does some good

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>>736888917
How long have we know about the dangers of smoking? Or of drinking? Generations. Hell, we've known that drinking was dangerous since the beginning of alcohol. We still drink. It won't matter.

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>>736889646
Yeah but way less people do it now than in the 50s.

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>>736889979
Smoking only because it's harder to find places where you can smoke. Drinking not at all. They're both billion dollar industries. They're both going to stay billion dollar industries because at the end of the day nobody gives a shit.

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Also, coffee causes cancer, smoked meats cause cancer, a lot of things cause detrimental health effects over an extended period of time. None of those things are really slowing down in terms of consumption.

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I'm upset that there isn't a lot of material written about Chaim Soutine.

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It somewhat disgusts me that an artist's legacy is measured almost entirely in the amount their work sells for at auction.