your thoughts on trump's healthcare bill?

>>736826437
Is good

>>736826490
only if you're rich.

Middle class and poor get fucked out of healthcare

>>736826586
Na

>>736826437
It's shit just like Trump

>>736826437
Not perfect, but compared to Obama's it's fucking heaven.

>>736827114
Obamacare is basically free healthcare

Trumpcare is basically "if you can't afford it, sorry. Have a nice funeral...Oh wait you can't afford that either"

>>736827114

I'm not a yank, but everyday Trump fucks you yanks and I love it, some of you even thank him for shitting in your mouth and then robbing you, just because the last dude was black. I love it so much.

>>736827481
such an incisive grasp of American politics

>>736826437
Pretty fucking shit. It kicks 20 million people off their health insurance, and people with with pre-existing conditions in red states are fuuuuucked. A universal healthcare system would be much better solution.

>>736827328
>Obamacare is basically free healthcare
What? No it isn't.

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GOP ploy to cull the poor and the sick. Little do they know that the primary beneficiaries of Medicaid coverage are uneducated and under-educated whites living in rural areas i.e. the base.

They're going to kill off the trailer trash that enables them to win elections.

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DESE REPUBLOCANS GOINA TAKE MY HEALTHCARE

>>736827328
Obamacare is a tax they charge the "free riders" (i.e. people who can't afford insurance) that rich shits like Nancy Pelosi despise

>>736828488
Posting an obese man doesn't change the fact that this healthcare bill is shit.

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>>736828642
Excuse me, loyal viewers. I don't usually make videos on this topic but I feel it needs to be addressed. The new healthcare bill made by the Republicans is going to literally kill me and other people like me.

>>736828905
First solid argument in favor of the bill that I've seen

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>>736828934
You want to get rid of my healthcare? Oi can't survoive without my medications!

>>736829195
Is someone getting "rid of your gas" when you go the station and they refuse to fill up your beater when you're broke? No.

>>736827114
tell me whats your favorite part about it

>>736827328
>Obamacare is basically free healthcare
Are you fucking retarded m8?

>>736829856
>not knowing how taxes work

>>736827328
Obamacare is by far better than nothing but it is far from free

>>736827481
Rather deal with that then taking muslim cock in my ass and mouth all day in Europe.

>>736829195

Fuck I hate this nasty, sugar-rotted teeth.

FUCKING DIE.

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Obamacare caused premiums to double. It fucked a hefty portion of the middle class out of their healthcare. There are states that once had 15+ providers that are now down to their last one.

Watch this, or be ignorant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBFoC1gkExI

>>736830002
It's pretty clear you don't.

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>>736830174

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>>736830235

>>736830104
It's not better for the poor who have to pay a penalty because they can't afford insurance. It's not better for the general consumer, who has seen their premiums skyrocket and the number of providers drop as they've been forced out of the market. It might be better for the small sliver of people who were able to get insurance because of the subsidies (though many of them can no longer afford even that, because of the premium jumps), but it fucked over everyone else.

>>736830174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMuXcuudvCc

>>736830174
>Obamacare caused premiums to double.
No, that's a misconception. Premiums have been going up even before obamacare. Most economist and healthcare experts agree that without the ACA, premiums would of gone up much higher. Also, the ACHA doesn't fix the high premiums, they're still going to go up for old and sick people, and after a few years for young people as well.

>Stefan Molyneux
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>736830104
People who are poor and can't afford the healthcare gets it free..."medicad" mate.

Im just so happy I live in a developed country with healthcare.

If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free.

>>736830403
If you want to sound smart that desperately, at least try to come up with an argument instead of just insults.

>>736830550
where are you getting this information from fox or Infowars

>>736827846
Medicad/medicare

It's great m8...

Of course once I graduate and start getting a good paying job I'll pay my own health insurance

>>736830632
>Most economist and healthcare experts agree that without the ACA, premiums would of gone up much higher.
[citation motherfucking needed]
And when you come back with Salon and Vox, I'm going to laugh at you.

>>736830640
not free is comes from taxes

>>736827328
>Obamacare is basically free healthcare
This is such a moronic statement that I'm going to assume you're trolling.

>>736830740
I haven't watched network television in decades, and I don't even know what Infowars is. Try harder.

Only reason we europoors get free heatlhcare and education is because of high taxes

So either you amerifats can pay higher taxes and get free healthcare or

pay low taxes and get expensive healthcare.

>>736830782
Hold on, i'll find it.

>>736830831
No shit.

>>736827481
Yeah it's awesome. Like the coalmining bit, only 3d world countries still fuck around with that shit. Who in their right mind still wants to walk around in a tunnel, chopping for coal for some fat fuck

>>736830666
Back, Satan!

>>736830704
kek
> understands Bernie

>>736830749
unless your premium is too much. What if you have a child and she has special needs or cancer. Theyre going to either drop you or raise your premiums to the point youd literally have to be billionaire to afford. Fuckin twit

>>736829856
America in a nutshell

>>736827481
>yank

Found the fake Brit

>>736830910
>pay low taxes and get expensive healthcare.
GOP doesnt understand that. They would prefer we all just circle jerk ourselves until we all die.

>>736831018
Well that's true...

But in general its either cheap or free depending on your situation


but regardless trumpcare is really shit. Even GOP themselves are against it..

>>736830910
But...but muh taxes...

>>736831148
I'm sure they would just prefer millions of americans die if it means making a profit

>>736831018
There are alternatives to driving. Whats the alternative to getting sick dumbass. "just dont get sick"

kys

>>736830902
>>Try harder.
SUCC

>>736831275
I'm sure millions of Americans would prefer that millions of other Americans would die instead of having to pay more tax. GOP's onto a real winner.

>>736831442
Just move to Canada and get it for free

problem solved HAIL THE LEAF!

>>736830782
not the guy you were talking to but.. LA Times?
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-obamacare-premiums-20160726-snap-story.html

Do you think they're biased too? I honestly don't really know anymore who different people think are the "fake" sources. Can you give me some examples of sources you'd consider reliable? Not even about this argument in specific, just where you'd prefer citations to come from.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/health-insurance-premiums.aspx#State_by_State

This includes a section headed "Analysis of 2015 Health Premiums Finds Average Nationwide Is Flat". I haven't done a cross-comparison to states that refused federal medicaid expansion dollars but I think some people have.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/10/15/448729327/states-that-declined-to-expand-medicaid-face-higher-costs

>>736831356
Pretty sure that's Obama's fault. I mean Kentucky. Kentucky is Obama's fault. Nigger.

>>736826437
Badass

>>736831018
That's exactly what insurance should address -- catastrophic needs. Unfortunately, they've confused health insurance with holistic all-in-one coverage of every elective thing under the sun, and left the people with real needs high and dry.

>>736831640
I think I basically agree with you, but then what do we do about the absurd cost of basic health care services?

>>736827114
Giving 800 billion dollars to the already-rich and screwing everyone else is a good idea??

>>736830782
>>http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-obamacare-premiums-20160726-snap-story.html
>An important new study by Loren Adler and Paul Ginsburg of the Brookings Institution adds another key factor. Their finding is that, even with an expected spike in premium increases for 2017, rates are still lower than they would have been without the Affordable Care Act. They calculate that premiums would have to rise by more than 44% for next year to approach where they would have been given the pre-ACA trend line. In fact, Adler and Ginsburg are being conservative — they calculated a rise of 5% a year from pre-ACA rates, even though the actual annual increases ranged from 11.7% in 2010 to 7-8% in 2011-2013.

Thanks Obama.

As a veteran I can't even use obamacare or trumpcare. I don't qualify for the tax credit unless I also forfeit VA healthcare, which only covers my service connected disabilities, so 2 things.

So either I pay full premiums and have VA healthcare or I just buy whatever care like everyone else but forfeit the VA plan. But wait, if you use the GI/Bill and go to school full time, your MHA isn't income, so you fall below poverty unless you also work full time as a student. Then you aren't covered by either plan anyway.

Both bills have/had gaps tons of people fall into and are just political pissing matches. It's like choosing between trump and hillary again, they still both suck dogshit. We lose again.

>>736831742
I'm not sure, the system's really fucked up because of the bizarre incentives. The one thing I'm sure about is that the politicians -- both parties -- just keep making it worse.

>>736831768
If it doesn't affect Joe Sixpack to do so whilst allowing him to keep more of his paycheck, then yeah. Not my opinion, but a commonly-held one, i think.

>>736831794
I think that describes one of the root problems -- this shit's way, way too complex. Nobody really knows what's going on or how to fix the mess. Which is to the politicians' advantage (they can make promises, and shift the blame), but fucks over the voters and general public.

>>736831640
Wut, no. A Good healthcare covers from family doctor to expensive cancer treatments. You cover all or nothing.
BUT what I don't get is that a country can complain that gasprices are rising (half of the price of any european country), that they can basically print a world currency and still don't manage to supply basic needs.. Like a healthcare system. How can you pretend to be a 1st world country

>>736830749
and aside from the premiums, you'll have to first pay a $6000 deductible before the insurance pays a penny

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>current year maymay
>not having medicare
>developed country

>>736831742
Part of it is on what they charge for the services. If i am the hospital and people have insurance I can charge you 10 bucks a pill of asprin and Ill get it I can charge you whatever I want because your insurance will pay it. So in theory government healthcare would help bring those costs to light and bring them down. Because if they dont they could be taxed harsher to make up for their overcharging of materials. But with this clusterfuck we have now nothing will change. We have so overcomplicated it to the point its hard to make those changes in one swoop ya know?

>>736831794

Don't you qualify for Medicaid as someone below the poverty line?

>>736830104
80% of us were happy with the coverage we had before ACA. Now I can't even afford to pay my huge deductible so it's like I don't have insurance

>>736832129
and then we write more bills based on a party line and fuckin se how complex we can make it apparently

>>736832159
You're an idiot who should learn what words mean. Look up the word "insurance".

>>736832159
>and still don't manage to supply basic needs.. Like a healthcare system. How can you pretend to be a 1st world country
Because people here have been brainwashed into thinking universal healthcare and welfare is "socialism"

>>736831885
Because they're hamstrung by the nation's implicit faith in the virtue of profit. I'm sure we'd all like to do something about everybody being greedy shits all the time, if only we weren't so busy being greedy shits.

>>736826437
>trump's healthcare bill?

This isn't Trump's healthcare bill. Presidents do not make legislation. This is the Senate's healthcare bill.

>>736832320
Uncertainty and confusion helps the incumbents. Look at the tax code, for instance, and how much resistance there has been to making it somewhat rational.

>>736826437
britfag here. u guys fucked up whenever u wouldn't accept obamacare. the best part of our society is our NHS and free healthcare. guess american's are too stingy to share their money cus muh freedomz

>>736832413
Do you also disagree with people calling the ACA obamacare?

>>736832265
Depends on the state. The majority of states have very limited medicaid available for anyone not over the age of 60 or pregnant. Medicaid funding is pretty much shit too, so it's another huge gap people fall through.

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>>736832451
Enjoy your diversity you fucking faggot

>>736832296
but thats the problem. We know it wasnt good before either but you cant make all the change at once. It has to happen over time. Right now you might not qualify for ACA. Now lets assume costs keep rising as they have been. Eventually you will qualify becuase your private insurance wants too much and you have to have coverage. Thus you have now begun to phase out those companies who cannot compete. you have to take steps toward making things better it cant all happen at once. Not with how complex its become.

>>736827328
Obamacare is a federal law that forces people to buy private insurance. Since everyone must now buy private insurance, they have jacked the prices way the fuck up. It's a compromise between public healthcare and private healthcare that takes the absolute worst from both worlds and taxes the everloving fuck out of small businesses and citizens.

>>736832522
Wrong thread. We'll talk later.

I don't live in America so not really sure about your system. But, if a person fell really really ill and didn't have health insurance, what happens? Are they left to die in their homes? Would that happen often?

>>736832522
what has diversity got to do with the state providing the universal right of free healthcare?

>>736826437
Low education Republitards who live in Buttcrack County will be the first ones to feel the pain when the bills come in. Zero shits given.

>>736832487
The ACA was specifically about expanding Medicaid coverage though. Specifically to cover exactly the hole you're talking about. If you're in a state in which you fail eligibility for credit in the exchanges AND also make too much to be eligible for medicaid, you're probably in a state that refused federal funds for medicaid expansion. 60+ is MediCARE though, different beast.

>>736826586
Explain in detail how.
I bet you can't
I bet you havn't even read the bill and you just assumed that because
>Republican bad
>democrat gud.
Brainwashed faggot

>>736832601
No money, no help. Your life is literally worthless in the land of the free.

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>>736832566
Wut?

>>736832601
You get crippling health bill debt.

>>736832345
Yeah, that's the problem indeed. You see Healthcare as an 'insurance', gl with that

>>736826437
Fucking horrible. We need Michelle in the office, not some fucking unqualified reality tv star.

>>736832601
under this bill yes. due to preexisting conditions they would be left to die. there is nothing they could do. if they get help and get dropped their kin are left to foot the bill. Its up there with electing this dipshit with dumbest shit weve ever let happen.

>>736832551
While there is some truth to that, certainly in terms of the effects it's had on some Americans, it's a lot more complicated than that.

>>736832462
>Do you also disagree with people calling the ACA obamacare?

Not really. He was heavily involved in its creation. Do you really think Trump was involved in creating a health care bill? Not so much.

>>736828106
THIS

I can't understand for the life of me why Republicans want to support policy that could quite literally kill thier supporters. So when all the old conservatives die, and the young ones are poor and shrinking in numbers, who's gonna vote them into office?

>>736832698
That genuinely upsets me.

>>736832699
Damnit Larry, I said later!

>>736832601
No, they are required by law to help and treat you. But the bill would be so high, you'll probably go bankrupt and go into poverty. You do not want to go into a hospital here without insurance, you'll be fucked by the bills.

>>736832223
The uninsured in particular get totally screwed, because of how the system is designed. For instance, hospitals charge $100. Insurance companies negotiate, and say "I'll pay this much". The government is worse, because every time the politicians look for cuts, they just arbitrarily decide to pay the hospital less. So to cover their costs (and make a profit), the hospital has to keep increasing their rates, because no matter what they charge they know they'll only get a tiny fraction of what they bill.

But if you're a self-payer (hate that term), you get stuck with the whole cost and end up in bankruptcy court.

>>736832686

If the eligibility for medicaid gets narrowed a bunch of people who WERE poor enough to qualify will STOP qualifying.. Do you not consider that "getting fucked out of your healthcare"?

>>736832812
<¬<

>>736832725
I see health insurance as health insurance, and healthcare as healthcare. I know different words have different meanings.

>>736832737
Again, more complicated than that. C'mon now.

>>736832177
Better than trump's bill.

>>736832911
Some times different words can have the same meaning. These occasions are called "synonyms". Learning!

>>736826437
it's gonna be hilarious when the rich piss off the poor enough for them to use those second amendment rights they're always using to distract from their shitty bills.

>>736826437
Garbage like Trump.

>>736833005
Except you're pretending that cat and orange are synonyms.

>>736827481
Not all of this. Only republicunts like being fucked in the ass without lube and no reach around.

>>736832911
The fact you see them as different things says enough though. But maybe I get you wrong. All I'm saying is. The american system is fucked up. Everyone should have acces to medical care, unconditionally. Hell, we get people from spain, france, portugal, italy, poland, wahetever to make use of our educational system. And that's a good thing

>>736830174
You're a rube. The billionaires have you twisted around their dicks.

>>736832487
You mean red states. Most blue states expanded Medicaid to cover low cinema people. There isn't a limit in my state. You get what you vote for.

>>736832984
Dude, Trump doesn't have a bill. Trump doesn't have a clue. Trump is not the problem. Trump is a symptom. An avatar. An inevitability. He is King Shit of Turd Mountain. Kick him as hard as you like, you'll only smell worse for the effort. Thing about Turd Mountain, is some people are just happy to live near the summit instead of in its shadow. Some people think maybe you can just blast a hole and build a road through it. I don't think so. I think you've gotta level it. It can't be bombed away, it can't be fracked away. It needs to be painstakingly dismantled by a million hands. Only when the reeking rubble of Turd Mountain lies across the soil of every state will we ever make anything grow.

I'm from the UK

Dislocated my kneecap at a rock concert.

Went to A&E and they fixed it for free.

It's great, you Americans should try it.

>>736833823
Deep, and true

>>736833110
Yep. Hilarious.

>>736832850
Good. Those lazy fucks can get a job then.

>>736826437
Your political system is a joke to the rest of the world.

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reality is that you will be better off if you are young, but most provisions don't kick in until 2024... most young people today will not see the benefits. In other words, you retards are fucked

>>736833836
They do the same thing for you in America, but only if it's a Toby Keith show. Or a fag stomping.

Canadian here dropping in. I live in BC, where our medical service premiums are about $70/ month, which are expected to drop in the next year or two. This covers any doctor visits, any diagnoses, any surgeries, any operations, any treatments. I'm grateful every day that I don't live in a third world shithole like the states.

>>736834019
Did you just Google "trolling"?

>>736834019
Ok ayn bland.

Everything is just that simple right? Or are these things
>more complicated than you can imagine

Kek Lord God emperor #maga #redpilled

>>736834344
How's the weather? If I move from Wisconsin will I notice a big difference?

>>736834019
"Fucks" (plural) and "job" (singular). That's actually a brilliant analysis. Job sharing is the future. If they all work hard, maybe they can pool their take-home pay so one of them can afford to get his appendix out before it explodes.

>>736834459
I get health insurance through work. I went to school. Got a good job. And I'm fine. If other people can't not get pregnant and drop out of high school that's not my problem. They take money out of my paycheck to pay for their free shit.

>>736834344
How hard is it to move from the US to Canada?

>>736834721
topkek

>>736834817
You...you don't understand how health insurance works, do you?

>>736834817
this... the stupidity keeps amazing me

>>736835296
Ladies and gentlemen, two anons, one keyboard. Sort your shit out before you post, you two. It's confusing.

>>736834472
Where I live in BC it is about 25 degrees Celsius in the summer. In the fall it rains a lot on the coast, and gets between negative 5 and 5 Celsius on average during the winter season which lasts about 7-8 months of the year.

>>736834833
I have no idea. Our government is focusing on admitting refugees because they're in greater trouble than you and your government refuses to take them. We are more worried about the influx of Americans than about refugees.

I think that if this passes, enough people think this bill will kill them and they will start a civil war

>>736836122
So we need to help the poor and middle class a little so they don't rise up and take even more from us than they want now?

>>736826437
just another washed down version of obamacare.

obamacare needed to be repealed fully.

they took funding away from planned parenthood which is good since that needs to be a charity donated organization and not a government payout.

>>736827762
they are not. ppl with pre existing conditions could easily get covered under group coverage just like before obamacare.

i never had a check up to get coverage for any insurance before. so this pre existing coverage bullshit is just apocolypse politics.

>>736832451
>"free" healthcare
>tax rate of 40-50% depending on income that pays for those "free" services
You're a dumbass.

>>736828106
You never understood healthcare before have you?

You also dont understand how conservatives feel about entitlements.

Another thing, the Republican base isnt infested with HIV/AIDS and they tend to not be heavy drug using alcoholic party goers like the left wing base is. So a majority of the Republican base is very healthy, has a job with group coverage (not obamacare) and will not be affected by Trump's changes.

I don't care about anybody but my immediate family and friends, and they all have jobs and pay for their own healthcare. Now I have to pay for Jamal and his wife Janiqua and their 9 children's healthcare because they decided it would be a better life choice to have 9 fucking kids while they both work at Wal Mart part time as an "inventory specialist". Fuck you.

>>736833005
Health insurance and healthcare are not synonyms you absolute retard.

>>736837111
trips of truth

>>736833836
free to you but not to the taxpayers that were forced to pay for your knee.

>>736837177
dubs of verification

>>736836769
Nothing is fee dipshit, but spreading out the risk is pretty smart

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>>736832451
>too stingy to share their money
this guy gets it

>>736837273
You pay taxes to invade other countries, how is paying for healthcare more retarded

>>736837273
His irresponsibility cost UK tax payers thousands but hey... "YOLO."

>>736837407
there could be a reward for that invasion. not for an idiot's knee.

>>736837407
you're implying that i support the decision to invade those countries, when i really don't. we shouldn't be in any foreign war that doesn't directly threaten us.furthermore, i have no obligation to pay for anyone's surgeries or medical procedures. i work for my money so i can spend it on what i want, not so you can get your heart replaced. i couldn't give a single fuck if anyone dies because they can't afford their hospital bills.

>>736837495
That idiot's knee being fixed means that your local dentist, teacher, coalminer, whatevs is sure to be able to do their job. Instead of losing it because you cant walk straight. But hey, Amerika first

>>736837633
Unless you are the one who can't afford their hospital bill

tis grear We need to reduce the Poor population in the US so im for it

>>736837071
>the Republican base isnt infested with HIV/AIDS and they tend to not be heavy drug using alcoholic party goers

Fucking made me laugh

Golden memes dudes, take this medal

>>736837778
i'll deal with my own problems as they come. your problems are not my problems.

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>>736826437
It's awesome.
So many dead amerifats.
Won't be surprised if ISIL backs it up.

Everyone could just shut the fuck up, we all pay taxes. How about having taxes that go to politicians go towards healthcare instead of filling pockets. People who work for the state shouldn't grossly benefit from it. Trumps healthcare has been no better or worse than any other, it's still not what we actually fucking need in this hellhole of retardation called democracy. Almost every politician starts and tries to make a difference, but stays to make a payroll after they realize they're just as useless as the rest. Everyone talks about taxes but the people with money are the ones who control the parties and choose who pays. Instead of bitching about what the president tries to do maybe people should think about actual reformation of our corrupt ass system. All this talk of gerrymandering and such is just a distraction from actual issues and causes that allow them to benefit from lack of focus.

>>736838088
y tell me all about that when the time comes grasshopper

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>>736837071
the republican base is a bunch of meth and opioid addicts. Top ten states with opioid abuse per capita are
Alabama
Tennessee
West Virginia
Kentucky
Oklahoma
Mississippi
Louisiana
Arkansas
Indiana
Michigan

All which happen to have voted for Trump. I guess you need to be on heavy shit to think that voting for Trump was a good idea

>>736838348
k

>>736838281
this

>>736838400
This doesn't prove shit. What demographics suffer the highest rates of addiction?

>>736827114
>but compared to Obama's it's fucking heaven.
I'm educated, wealthy, and work for a fortune 500 company so hell, I'll probably benefit from Trumpcare, but I'm curious why all the Trump voters somehow think it's a good idea when they're the ones getting raped.

>>736836751
Nnnnnope. You go in for treatment, file a claim, then they work to determine whether or not it's a pre existing condition. If so, they can just not pay.

>>736838400
>States with highest average ages.

Using number of prescriptions to display drug abuse is retarded because that's not how that works you dumb ape.

>>736826437
I like it.
As long as you have a job you can afford to pay for a step up and you're pretty covered at that point with dental and eyes.

If you don't have a job and you're poor as fuck you gotta take the bare minimum and at that point you better not get sick.

Not sure what you people are expecting this health insurance is bare minimum because it's barely going to cost anything at all

>>736837111
See >>736835026

>>736838802
because breitbart told them it was good.

>Buying something in the hopes of never using it

Must be fun to be so insufferably retarded that you can't just invest the money you'd put into insurance and have a savings to cover you in case something does happen. Insurance is just using peoples fear of injury expenses to make money through a scam made to look like a good deal.

Wage gap and insurance are like two peas in a pod, couldn't have one misery without the other to help make more problems.

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>>736826586
>>736826946
>>736827114
>>736827328
>>736827481
>>736827762
I love how we now NEED universal government provided health care... If i'm not mistaken, the country wasn't exactly on fire and bubonic plague wasn't decimating the population in mid 2005 when such mandatory federal services went provided......?....

>>736826437
>trumps
thisis why the world thinks usa is retarded. they know more about how our government works than we do

>>736839478
George W. Bush was president in mid 2005

>>736826586
>>736826946
>>736827328

I'm a Democrat and I'm glad when people die. It's the only way to save the planet.

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>>736839602
any modern time period pre obama care works for my point, if you want to be picky...
cunt

>>736832451
you sound like a communist, are you a communist?

I'll fix healthcare in one fell swoop.

If you're obese, you don't get healthcare. Lose some weight or you don't deserve it. That would fix everything.

>>736826437
Trumpcare is absolute garbage. just another one of the things he lied about

>>736826437
It's a tax cut for the rich, and pushes millions off of health care.

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>mfw we have "free" healthcare in my country
>mfw it's falling in pieces and the government decided to increase a 1% tax to save it but in the process provoked an uprising of workers who don't want to pay that fucking 1% and are rioting in the streets.
>mfw they had to add free hormone therapy for faggots because they sued the government and won, now our healthcare is fucked beyond repair.
I hate faggots so much

>>736841464
this is retarded haha

>>736826437
Its shit

But then again the world has become accustomed to yanks having slightly better than 3rd world healthcare.

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>>736832686
Both are neoliberal cucks who suck wallstreet's big fat cock any chance they get.

And thanks to your shitty media you have been convinced that you get an actual choice in this two party system, while in reality those choices are about non-issues.


get rid of first past the post and get an actual democracy faggots

>>736827114
so your ideal healthcare would be no healthcare?

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>>736826437
>>736840756
Let's raid
>A bit spanish forum was dick around the 4chan's work in pixelcanvas. We will destroy his logo here: http://pixelcanvas.io/@-88,2228

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>>736826437
Hah, the last time the US had decent healthcare they still had a king.

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Government doesn't have the right to give health-care (unless of course you work for the government). Even if they do, you should not be penalized for not having coverage.

For all the internationals here, while the US is not a fantastic country, I'd still rather live here than get raped by Muslims 24/7.

>>736843611
lived in europe for 21 years, never been raped.

>>736843368
>libs sucking wall street's cock
>cons elected wall street into office

>>736832522
Hahahaha you're a fucking retard

>>736843751
you did when you were very young tho, you just don't remember it

>>736827114
How so? Have you even read the new bill, or are you just assuming because Trump is your Godking, and anything the Democrats do is the devil.

Go ahead try top explain how the new bill is better. I dare you. You couldn't even if you did read that pile of garbage.

>>736842763

t. Fatso

i like it because it destroys the retarded fan base of trump.
and makes dipshit liberals whine about how lazy invalids being special. which in turn makes retards who support trump "drink liberal tears."

the alt-right is fucking pathetic though, seriously.

>>736841464
What if a fatso gets shot at one of those school shootings?

He needs healthcare unrelated to his obesity, and these things happen more often than muslims killing eurocucks.

>>736842721
What country is that, friend ?

>>736844211
Don't reply to trolls using fascism to further their point.

>>736844497
>not realizing it was a thinly veiled way of making fun of yankistan

>>736826437
Jesus christ this thread is nearly 5 hours old

>>736826586
>Middle class
so nobody of importance then

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>>736826437

>>736844959
Implying you're not a poor fag

>>736844959
Dude middle class people are the majority

You lose the middle class the rich loses money

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It's a pile of shit! A handout to the rich. EAT MY SHIT TRUMP!

>>736844938
Longest thread i've seen is 10 hours I shit you not

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Trump is a lying sack of SHIT! He is robbing Medicare to pay for a tax break for the rich! FUCK YOU TRUMP!

>>736830000
Holy Moly! Nice quads m8!

>>736826437
Trump's bill? He didn't have shit to do with it, honestly, just like he didn't have shit to do with the house bill. McConnel and Ryan get all the credit for this abomination.

Obamacare was not especially good, but this bill is a heaping pile of shit. Hopefully single payer is coming. inb4 retards saying too expensive because basically every fucking civilized country on earth has it.

Obamacare was bad no arugment there

but this bill a huge pile of dogshit that looked like it was eaten then shat out again.