Why can't atheists define atheism?

>>736724787
Because it is an abstract type of feeling rather than something that can clearly be defined. Like you just feel that there can be no god.

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@736724988
Aren't you people all about """logic?"""

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>>736724787

>>736725443
"what do you mean, YOU PEOPLE" -blacks

>>736724787
it can be, it's the absence of faith in god or a higher power, now fuck off with your shitty bait

>>736724787
Because axioms are base philosophical assumptions 1=1 0=0

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@736725815
Define "god" then. You still haven't defined atheism.

>>736724787
its been months already. why are you resurrecting this pathetic thread?

>>736725911
>>736725443
>@

fuck off back to twitter

>>736724787

A-theism.

Without theism.

(Any)one who is not a theist.

Define semantics

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@736726083
Define theism. You have to do that if you're going to define atheism.

>>736724787
How long is this shit posting going to last? How many years has threads like these been around? I've lost count. All the days and months blend together in a blur.

>>736726245
God is apparently not fulfilling enough for this lunatic.

>>736726138

Are you a theist?

You define theism.


--

I'd define it as:
(Any)one who believes in at least one god.

>>736726329

Aaaaand because I've not heard any good definition for a god, that makes sense from any knowledge we currently have, I am not a theist.

>>736724787
It's lacking a belief in god(s). That's it.

>>736726138
theism

belief in a god or gods

from the greek "theos" which means god and the suffix -ism which denoting a system, principle, or ideological movement.

the prefix a- means without so atheism literally means without a belief in a god or gods

philosophical bump

how can i bump this thread if my eyes arent even real?

Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities

>>736724787
Easy:

Deism — Belief that God exists.

Theism — Belief that we know what it thinks.

Adeism — Certain knowledge that God doesn't exist.

Atheism — Certain knowledge that people don't know what God thinks.

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Was this thread supposed to go somewhere..?

>>736727764

Replace "certain knowledge" with "lack of belief"

>>736724787
>absence

I don't know what's more retarded.
This shitty old stale bait, or the fact people still fucking reply to the shitty old stale bait.

>>736728277

How about the fact that over half the fucking world is religious?

Q: Waht do you call a person who plays golf?
A: A golfer

but what do you call a person who doesn't play golf??

>>736725911
neverewnding story final scene

>>736728380
If you're going to state things that are even more retarded than the two options I presented, we'll be here all day.

Atheism is a label used by religious folk to define those who do not share their beliefs. An athiest calling themselves an athiest generally is a angsty troll. A true non believer does not need or use this label

>>736724787
What is this girl

>>736729129
she is the never ending STOOOOOOORIIIIIIIEEEEE

ba-da-daaaa da-da-daaaa ba-da-daaaa

>>736728435
agolfer

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@736726329
Can you define "god?"

How can you claim to be an atheist if you can't identify theists?

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Since you're putting the burden on me:

A theist is someone who wouldn't bang chick in pic related.

An atheist would bang chick in pic related.

>DEFINED.

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@736726725
What is it exactly that you don't believe in? Define "god."

atheism is a religion which requires resounding faith in oneself. While they use the argument of "It's unlikely" to say god is 100% definitely not real, the exact same thing could be said about god NOT being real. You can't be sure about either, but atheists are so full of themselves that they say they they are absolutely and resoundingly correct in their assumptions about the nature of the universe, despite their arguments being just as disprovable as those for religion. It seems that most atheists are still stuck in their teenage rebellious phase, and the entire belief system is mostly based on built up hatred for Christians cause they don't like gay marriage and fucking everything that moves without consequence. Grow up dickheads.

>>736724787
Atheism = autism

>>736724787
Fuck you that's why

>>736729468
a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity. Or a supernatural being with great or all encompassing power.
Either of those. I'm sure there are other definitions, but those would be closest to what I do not believe in as an atheist.

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@736726814

You don't understand. You still haven't defined atheism, because your definition of theism is based on the concept of a god.

So tell me, what makes a god? What is this category of things that you don't believe in?

>>736729468
Define "define".

>>736729428

That is not how this works.

Atheism is a non-position of theism -- for the most used definitions of theism.

I've yet to hear a convincing definition of theism -- which is WHY I'm not a theist.

For all purposes, the definition of theism would be:

The belief that there exists at least one god.

Where god is magical or metaphysical sky fairy.

The lack of a convincing definition of a god, that seems plausible with our current knowledge about the universe, is the reason I'm not a theist:

No definition of theism that I've heard manages to construct any definition of a god that seems to be a more true answer to "How did this universe come to be?" than "We do not know yet."

Not all gods are claimed to be the creators of the universe, by their believers, but in the modern world -- creating the universe, from nothing, having not been created themselves, seems to be a common definition of a god.

>>736724787
The whole idea of atheism and what is criticises religion for is extremely ironic when you consider atheism is also a belief.

>>736724787
Atheism is a lack of belief in God or Religion. It stems from the Greek "a-" implying a lack of and "theos" meaning "god." Personally, I'm totally okay with an oblivion of nothing after I die. It makes life that much sweeter, knowing that it is all that I have.

>why cant atheists define atheism
>defines atheism
>but you cant define it
>defines atheism again
>but you have to define all these other words
>all other words systematically define
>but you still havent defined atheism

please at least get creative no one likes a broken record

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>>736730126
Then who are you talking to when you say "God Damnit"

>>736729622
Burn your straw-man and gtfo

I'm not absolute about God not being real. I personally don't see the evidence for her. Many others do not either. Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Matt Dilahunty, Aron Ra, and others do not say they are 100% sure. They just don't see enough evidence for god and see plenty against her.
If anyone atheist or theist says they are 100% sure that god is not real or real than I wouldn't agree and prob call them fags.

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@736727567
What is a deity?

>>736730454
when people say "god dammit" they arent referring to any actual god, just like when they say "holy shit" they arent referring to any actual shit

>>736727951
>Adeism — lack of belief that God doesn't exist.
>Atheism — lack of belief that people don't know what God thinks.

You are literally retarded

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@736730126
You categorically deny the existence of a "god," but don't say what "god" means. That's pretty dishonest.

>>736729622

In 10th grade, I learned that I was an atheist.

NOT believing in something requires zero effort.

I didn't know what atheism was:
I just lumped the story about Christ and his father, the angry sky fairy, and the holy poltergeist, up in the sky, somewhere, alongside the stories about Santa Claus on the North Pole and the Easter Bunny.

Lack of belief is passive, and the only time you ever HAVE to think about it, is when someone who believes brings it up -- or it's late at night, and you try to figure out why the easter bunny brings eggs.

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@736729840
A tiger is superhuman. It can run faster than a human and it's stronger. It has power over your fortunes when it eats you, and some people worship them. So do you believe that tigers don't exist?

What a retard.

>>736730270
>lack of belief =/= belief
Are you an athlete because you don't play football?

>>736730667
It was clearly sarcasm lol

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@736730381
Right, but what is a god and what is religion

God damnit is a command against the almighty.
Holy Shit is a proclamation that someone produced an incredible turd. Probably Andy Sixx.

Why do people still reply to these fucking threads? Stop posting.

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I'm pretty sure OP is some kind of amnesiac retard. He actually doesn't remember making this thread every day for months on end.

>>736730958
I don't need to believe in tigers because I can see them in the zoo. Do you believe in tables?

>>736730636
>>736730808

Deity, or a god:

...a character, or many characters, from various sources of fiction and fan fiction, normally associated with magical powers, the ability to create life from unliving substances, sometimes immortal, sometimes timeless, sometimes metaphysical.

There are a wide variety of gods, but most theists only believe in one or a group of gods.
Atheists just go one god further than those that only believe in one of the gods.

this was the most pathetic attempt at a troll that I've seen in a long time. Congratulations for winning that award.

>>736725443
Nigger you are so new I just Wana drown you in my semen.

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>>736724787
>>736725443
>>736725911
>>736726138
>>736729428
>>736729468
>>736729970
>>736730636
>>736730808
When you see these pictures, please take a step back and look at how terrible the posts with them containing arguments are.

They have taken a class or maybe two on how to debate and do nothing but try to twist rhetoric.

Enjoy feeding the troll. Nobody cares if there is a God or not.

Posting boobs because I like them.

>>736731026
i dont know ive heard this argument used pretty damn seriously before and people are really just that fucking stupid. Either it wasnt sarcasm or at the very least it wasnt *clearly* sarcasm

>>736725911
Get out of here newfag Noone loves you and they never should.

>>736731246
we reply because we are bored as fuck and like arguing shit and its hard to keep up a good argument in a porn thread

>>736731238
It's like the Flat Earth or Climate Change hoax threads. People just can't help themselves

>>736730974
You BELIEVE there is no God. Atheism is a belief. It's not a fact. I'm not religious I just think atheism is stupid. What's after death is probably too complex for any of us to understand.

>>736731246
woops
>>736731505
was meant for
>>736731238

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@736731302
All I'm saying is by your definition of "god," tiger's shouldn't exist, so your version of atheism is idiotic.

I'll ask you again. What even is atheism?

>>736731570
I OBSERVE that their is no God. I OBSERVE tigers in the zoo. I OBSERVE the table in the room. I do not believe in any of it.

You have the mental acuity of a stunned rodent

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>>736731606
>@736731302

Fuck off back to twitter, dumb fuck.

>>736731570
no you're twisted the grammar it's not that we "believe there is no god" it's that we "don't believe that there is a god" and if you don't understand the difference you need to go back to school and learn english

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@736731313
>from various sources of fiction and fan fiction
So you don't believe in fictional characters? Neither do I.

What if you don't know if something is fictional, like you don't know about every single religion out there? It seems to me that you could stand to refine your viewpoint a bit.

>>736730958
By superhuman I mean a man/woman with capabilities beyond not just the norm, but approaching godlike abilities. Supernatural abilities. Achilles would be a good example.

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@736731791
Nice """""argument."""""

I rest my case, atheists can't define atheism. So let's get the point of the thread, why can't they?

>>736731606
Atheism is the little to no belief in a god or entity of certain "divinity"

>>736731606
Atheism is denying the existence of a god or supernatural being that created the universe and believes the universe was created through natural means

>>736724787
Atheism doesn't describe a belief but rather lack there of. I'm an atheist but don't believe in anything. String theory might be the best guess of how the universe started but it's a guess with not much in the line of physical evidence.

My view on a higher power is this personified version of god perpetuated in modern religion doesn't make sense. Maybe there's something maybe there's not but im sure sure it's not the biblical god or any other fairy tale.

Science is all about putting forth a hypothesis and then proposing an experiment to test that hypothesis. The results of those experiments are then used to format a theory. The better the evidence, the better the theory.

Science is wrong about many things and will continue to that as that is it's nature. It doesn't require you to believe anything and encourages you to question and try to dis prove

>>736731606


Do you know what people mean when they talk about the sense and the referent of a word?

We can define the sense for the word 'god' without assuming there is a referent.

To put it another way; if you ask an atheist to list the things they believe in, none of the referents that they list would match a theists sense for the word 'god'

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>>736731606
Where's your god now OP?

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>>736724787
Chill. Come to daddy.

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@736732066
So it has to be a human? The Egyptian gods certainly weren't human, and yet I assume that as an atheist you don't believe in them.

If they're close enough to them there were also Egyptian gods who weren't even closely related.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apep

You trolls are such idiots. Why is this even a thing?

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>>736724787
God is dead

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@736732161
Define "god."

>>736724787
Oh look, it's this thread again. I once refused to believe anyone with an IQ at or above 100 could be baited this easily, but then they started to genuinely believe and integrate all of these retarded memes in place of rational thought. This is the 4chan experience, here to weed out the weak minds. You're all doomed.

You want a nice clean definition that everyone can easily understand? Ok here you go.

There is no god. It doesn't exist. There, that wasn't so hard now was it? You are welcome.

>>736731820
"we" lol.. Okay

>>736732557
Even with the simplest answer, OP is too brain dead to comprehend

>>736732557
Prove it. Autist

>>736731848

Is there any specific god you think of?
Define that God, and the reasons for why I should believe in it.

...

I am an atheist BECAUSE I have yet to hear any definition of any god that is plausible to the point where it's worth believing it exists.

It's mostly fiction from medieval and even prehistoric times -- and we have little to no reason to believe otherwise.


I could've read 1 000 000 000 pages about gods -- or other works of fiction, without learning anything new about this world that these works of fiction explain, with verifiable explainations, that are unexplainable without religion:

My atheism is CAUSED by the lack of a good definition for a god, followed by the lack of evidence for gods:

There is no reason to believe, until there is verifiable evidence for gods.

>>736732462
No... I didn't say it had to be a human.

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>>736731820
>You're

>>736732639
ok i will admit i cant speak for *all* atheists but most in general think this way

do you happen to be an atheist that firmly believes there is no god?

>>736726036
Hello new friend you have been baited

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@736732212
The Greek gods didn't create the universe and yet I assume you don't believe in them. Shitty definition.

>>736732857
it means you are...the typo their was i typed "twisted" instead of "twisting" so what's your point?

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@736732296
You don't understand the English language or logic.

>>736732877
oh i knew it was bait, there is no way they didn't intentionally remove the arrows and replace them with that symbol....they still need to fuck off to twitter

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@736732853
>By superhuman I mean a man/woman with capabilities beyond not just the norm, but approaching godlike abilities. Supernatural abilities. Achilles would be a good example.
>a man/woman

Yes, you did, because your definition of superhuman implies that the subject must be human. Want to try again?

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@736732557
Sure, but what do you mean by "god?"

>>736732859
I would consider myself agnostic. I don't firmly believe anything. I think people shouldn't be so quick to claim they know things that are way out of their depth.

How can you be so retarded people?
God - a concept of supernatural being created by uneducated people to explain the surrounding world.
Theists believe in the existence of such a being, atheists - don't.
Done. Now gtfo.

2/10 bait, made me reply.

All you're doing is trying to have atheists define what they do not believe in;

They don't have to.
The reason many atheists don't believe in gods -- is exactly because the theists have no coherent explaination for what a god actually is, and how to test and prove that this god exists.

Without any way to test if something exists, with no scientific theory predicting the existence of such an entity, there is no reason to believe it does.

Do you have any reason why we should even consider being theists?

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>>736733239
then you happen to be an agnostic atheist (goddammit i fucking hate all these "im agnostic" types dont realize that they are, by definition, atheists and just try to make atheists look bad)

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@736732787
I assume that even if I defined my god, you wouldn't just disbelief that but also all the others.

So what I'm asking you to do is tell me what this nebulous category of things that you absolutely reject is exactly. Is that so hard?

>>736733239
also for the record that is literally the majority of atheists (even the hardass atheists and militant atheists dont literally claim to know there is no god)

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>>736724787

There is nothin to "define" in atheism. You simply do not believe in god and are not part of any religious group. Or maybe you're in one for different reasons but not because you actually believe in it.

Like me, I'm catholic not because I actually define myself as "christian," I just fucking hate muslims.

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@736733451
What do you mean by supernatural?

>>736724787
Why can't I define how much I want to ram my 8 inches of twitching man meat over those young lips and feel my hot member pump rope after rope of sticky spooge down that lovely throat? Why can't any dictionary help me express how lewdly I'd grunt as I covered those sweet eyes and nose and cheeks with my steaming sperm and mixed my potent babygoo with her flowing tears?

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@736733677
>be Christian
>know God exists because of Faith and the bible

>be atheist
>know nothing
>admit you know nothing and still argue the point

Why are atheists such idiots? If they don't know their beliefs are true, then why do they still insist on disagreeing with people who do?

>>736733952
supernatural
ˌsuːpəˈnatʃ(ə)r(ə)l/
adjective
1.
(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
"a supernatural being"

Banned by Google?

>I assume that even if I defined my god, you wouldn't just disbelief that but also all the others.

I can only believe or disbelieve arguments which I hear -- and I can't become a theist until I'm convinced at least one exist.

Theists deny the existence of all sorts of gods on face value, because they already believe another exists.

I don't believe in any god, because of the lack of evidence for the god.
For all gods I've heard of so far.

And that's a lot of gods.

How can you believe in something, until you have heard a plausible explaination for how that god COULD exist, in the first place?

Typically -- introduction to different gods goes something like this:


My god is great! He grants wishes, cures diseases, is all good, loves everyone and created the world!

But once you actually try to test the statements, none of them actually hold true.

...
and all that remains is "God created the world" -- in the case of christianity, islam and judaism.

But why believe the god exists?

>implying the bible is proof of anything more than a brain dead faggot

>>736724787
Atheism is a word. Theism is a word. Words describe information. Information is lacks bias. This arguement is comparble to a child playing the "Why?" game. Good luck OP.

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@736734286
I'm just trying to point out that you don't know what you're saying.

Are you truly so arrogant as to think that everything in the universe follows our currently established scientific knowledge? I guess we should shut down out universities then, since you don't believe in anything that is beyond our current understanding.

>>736724787

>b8?
A(meaning not) thiest(someone who believes in a deity, god, or higher power/spirit)

To be an athiest is to not believe in the "divine"

>>736733163
I assumed that by-
>So it has to be a human? The Egyptian gods certainly weren't human, and yet I assume that as an atheist you don't believe in them.

-you mean that I said god has to be a superhuman.

I got that wrong I admit.

If you're simply asking whether or not I think a god in the sense of "a superhuman" pertains only to humans than yes. I hold it as only pertaining to humans. However I would include the Egyptian gods under that category as human like.

I would also add into my definition the idea of animalistic gods with supernatural powers.

>>736731302
>Do you believe in tables?
Periodically, yes.

I love that this bait is always so successful. This time they even @ people instead I quoting them.

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@736734657
What does "divine" mean?

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@736734745
Well in that case you still have to define what supernatural means.

>>736734842
you'd think people would catch on after so long

>>736735005
Remember the audience /b/rother

>Are you truly so arrogant as to think that everything in the universe follows our currently established scientific knowledge? I guess we should shut down out universities then, since you don't believe in anything that is beyond our current understanding.

Arrogance is believing you already DO know the answer;
Believing gods exist -- when there's a potential infinite amount of other explainations that we've yet to discover.

Atheists don't claim to know gods don't exist;
Most of us just fail to see why we should believe in any gods, when "I don't know" is more intellectually honest than "Goddidit".

>>736734979

Stop trying to get atheists to create arguments for the existences of gods, and realize that it's the lack of arguments that support the existence of gods that cause people who have been introduced to religions to not believe -- and try to argue for WHY atheists SHOULD believe in a god.

>>736734979
...
You know you have google right?

*sigh*

But fine. Here:

(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

If I may ask, do you believe in a god(s)? If so, what do you consider the strongest evidence to back up your god(s)? Or even just 1 strong evidence?

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>>736734623
That's literally the way of religious morons: shut down the science because of one book written by several humans of the Bronze Age.
Normal people call that belief retarded.

Also "think that everything in the universe follows our currently established scientific knowledge?" - who and where said that?
Stop making shit up. If not for the science, you'd still be sacrificing lambs to an imaginary friend.

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@736735119
I am not debating the merits of theism. I am showing you the stupidity of atheism.

How can you reject the existence of something when as you just said, you don't know anything about it?

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@736735369
>gods
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

>>736724787
because atheism is just as undefinable as theism.

Find a theist that can define theism...then a-theism follows the pattern of the prefix!

C'mon mate. Try harder.

>>736735477

Do you believe in hertzwilligers?

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@736735393
I refer you to this post: >>736734623

>>736731484
this perfectly decribes my feelings when i see the childish porncess.

>>736731351
Ah, nice tits.
Good, now I don't regret coming into this thread. The only thing it was good for.

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@736735699
I don't know. At best that makes me an agnostic.

>>736724787
What's the point ?

>>736735477
>I am not debating the merits of theism. I am showing you the stupidity of atheism.

No, you are not.
You are showing how stupid religion is, by having atheists explain it.
And by mocking the most accurate descriptions:
You're actually mocking religious thinking -- the reason we don't believe; the lack of evidence, and lack of good explainations of the existence of gods.

>How can you reject the existence of something when as you just said, you don't know anything about it?

I do not reject the existence of.
I simply do not actively consider the position of belief to hold any value what so ever.

If you are a theist -- how can you believe in something you don't know anything about, without any evidence for it being true?

If you know anything about it -- actually KNOW -- what do you know?
If there is evidence -- what is the evidence?

...

You're essentially asking us why we don't believe in Tinkerbell.

>>736724787
Atheists CAN define atheism.
readily.
with gusto and vigor.

>you're just a pretentious shit who wants to bait threads.

>>736724787

It's the non-belief in mythological/super natural beings

>>736735919
You don't know if you believe in hertzwilligers? Okay, then surely you should believe in them, because you don't know what they are?

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@736736059
>I do not reject the existence of.

Then, by the most common definitions, you are not an atheist.

So begone!

>>736731777
You sounded 13 just then lol

>>736732510
Bump

>>736736467
>by the most common definitions
So, you're telling me you can define an atheist after all?

>>736735711
>Are you truly so arrogant as to think that everything in the universe follows our currently established scientific knowledge? I guess we should shut down out universities then, since you don't believe in anything that is beyond our current understanding.

NO! I'm sure there are plenty of things which we know next to nothing about, and that would change our views greatly.

But, why should we believe in something we cannot show to exist or that is not true? It COULD exist sure, but a pink unicorn in my living room could exist too. Or a teacup floating around Mars. What we would need is evidence that such a thing is probable.

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@736736147
What is a myth? What is supernatural?

>>736727776
It's the never-ending shitpost, it never goes anywhere.

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@736736162
Well no, but certainly I shouldn't reject their existence outright, as atheists do.

Now do you see why atheism is dumb?

what does /b/ think about the idea of non-equal dimensions of time.

>>736736467

I'm a theist then?

Define atheist.

>>736736918
Why is someone as new as you perpetuating this thread?
I mean heck you don't even know how to properly reply to posts.

why can't christians define true christianity?

>>736737147

He thinks agnostic is a position of faith, and not a position on the knowledge of said faith.

>>736736918
Okay, so a hertzwilliger is a sort of involute gear train, designed to cause maximum vibration under constant rotation.

Do you believe in them now?

Because God is a woman, and She voted for Trump.

>>736737399
Well the op of these thread usually does.
I was just wondering why someone this new took up that mantle.
The guy who usually posts this at least knows how the site functions.

It's shows how beaten down theists are when they resort to philosophically asking what definitions even mean.

@736737430
Well I've never personally seen evidence of one, but I still can't reject their existence.

I ran out of pictures

Define "thing!"
You defined thing by using "Junk"
Define "Junk!"
You defined junk by using "WORD!"
DEFINE "WORD!"

fucking fuck man.

>>736724787
Why can't religious people clarify where their creator came from?

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>>736724787

>>736737863
Okay dude, this is annoying me now, if you want to answer to a specific post, left click the post number with your mouse.

>>736724787
You gonna answer me?
l
V
>>736736738

>>736732877
no, baiting is a meme. you virgins don't get to fuck up and then claim it's a bait every time someone calls you out on your stupidity. there are hard limits in this world, you don't get to be autistic and just hide it by saying it was bait

>>736737044

Somewhat related:

WHAT if (sentient) life actually is a force, like a ring, that follows strands of quantum events in one specific direction -- and our existence and choice being an result of the chemistry of our sentience...

time* being the specific direction this force follows the threads of quantum states -- space folding into three dimensions plus time, because that is how our sentience breaks down the chaos that is timeless space?

...

Death -- end of sentience -- means a return to the timeless chaos of complete randomness, until the time occurs where one strand leads to sentience and a timeline.

>>736737863

So what you're saying is that you, personally, are too ill-informed to be able to recognize something as logically inconsistent, and therefore don't reject its existence. We, on the other hand, can recognize something as logically inconsistent, and so can reject it.

Anyone with any engineering knowledge should be in a position to reject the existence of the hertzwilliger. In the same way, anyone with experience of existing on Earth should be in a position to reject the existence of gods.

@736738152
:^)

SAGE this thread. Google how to. You will see this garbage less if you do.
Also, you can click the little triangle to hide it

@736738286
Why would you outright reject the existence of such a thing?

>>736738152
he isnt going to i just dont re[ly to that guy, even if i did know when he addressed me, all "@" posts are completely ignored as he is doing it on purpose to show he doesnt even respect other people

>>736738737
So you're being deliberately hard to follow.
Ass.

>>736738808

Why would you believe in such a thing?

Know
Believe
Not believe
Reject

>>736738737
Obviously you don't know how to read.
Ok, lets make this more simple.
OOOHHH see the numbers on an anons ID?
Pretty number huh?
click them.
Then spew shit.
Whala! Now you're not a tard!

>>736739034
He's being deliberately dense to disrespect people.
In fact I wouldn't even put it past him to create this very post I am replying to, just to stir some shit.

>>736729462
> Theist here
> Would bang
> Would bang very hard
....You were saying???

>>736738808
...Because I don't have evidence to believe that it is even minutely probable. Not unless you... PROVIDE SOME? oOo

If I said I had a million gold bricks you would want evidence before believing me right?

>>736739034
dumbass you really think he's typing those numers out? he fucking knows how to reply, in fact he is clicking the numbers and getting rid of the arrows just to annoy fucks like you

>>736739174
how do we know he didnt make your post just to pretend to be stirring shit up? How do you know he isnt making this one as well?

>>736739357
I don't, but I've got this book that claims op is a fraud and I tend to believe it.

@736739034
Ok I did it

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>>736739357

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>>736739518
ken ham:the post

though your book sounds interesting i would love to read it

@736739564
Perfect

>>736739657
I was basically making light of myself for acting like a tinfoil hat guy just now.
If I had proof of op being wrong and how to prove it for yourself, I would've shared it with the world long ago.

>>736738808

Let's try a little experiment. I assert that if you post in this thread again, you will cause the deaths of all humans except yourself. If you choose to post again, what possible conclusions are there apart from that you rejected the assertion outright, despite not knowing if it was true?

I contend that, the next time you post, you have invalidated your stance regarding the outright rejection of unproven statements, through your own willful rejection of an untested assertion.

>>736739905
How will you know if it's him?

>>736739905
I predict this post dies after being underrated during its entire lifespan.
>>736740001
There's a way to tell who posts what... .I forget how, myself... but I have been called out on /b/ for samefagging.

>>736738380
interesting to read but still inside the gilded cage imo.

i see life as constructive self-organisation.
sentinent life as a kind of self-perception of the system itself.
but this way wont answer if there is more than one time dimension.

i like the idea of disaggregate dimensions. we have good knowledge about that there are 3 space dimensions. what about time dimension(s) are totally different?

assume a critical density(black mass) and planck quantum of action as limits for interaction and compare units. imo there has to be some sort of unit balance. therefor i think time is also 3D but in contrast to space these are non-equal dimensions.

@736739338

Should I choose to not believe you?

>>736740258
How do we know it's you?

>>736740258
Huh, I'm still alive.
You play things fast and loose op.

>>736739881
>If I had proof of op being wrong and how to prove it for yourself, I would've shared it with the world long ago.

...

There is literally zero evidence, and zero reason to believe in gods.

The lack of evidence SHOULD have made the majority of the world population NOT believe in gods -- just like adults do not believe in Santa Claus.

But just like a heapload of people believe in ghosts, people believe in gods.
Probably for the same reason:
Their world view is built up to accept supernatural explainations, in order to solve cognitive dissonance, and continue on without existential crsis which might occur if one wasn't religious, and couldn't handle not having solutions to important questions the mind could inquire.

>>736740258
Yes.
That would be the logical course of action.
Such an extraordinary claim requires equally extraordinary evidence.

>>736740001
>>736740089

I don't have to know it's him though. This is just another brick in the wall of my argument.

>>736724787
oh wow i thought you quit
welcome back

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>>736740528
you can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat, though

have a hot pic

>>736740449
But that was what I was saying, if I could prove that there in fact were no gods, instead of just telling people that I find them unlikely that I don't believe them, I would share that proof to rid this world of the silly notion of religion.

>>736740681
them so unlikely*

@736740451
But it could be true. God or gods could be true. Would you stick your existence on a could? Why not just believe it, if even in the slightest amount it could provide some enormous benefit?

>>736730454
not talking to anyone. Just like when theists pray.

>>736740681

And I was saying, people should have realized that they should not base their lives on stories which they only have faith to support -- especially stories that don't actually improve you as a human being, help you or your family or society to survive.

...but they believe their religion DOES these things.
Without any evidence.
On faith alone.

...

The majority of them would probably reject 100% irrefutable proof, especially if said proof was structured over several arguments, with requirements for mathematical knowledge, or knowledge about physics or philosophy.

>>736740849
Why not believe in Zombie Hitler who is coming back from the grave to give everyone 1 trillion dollars? You're pathetic.

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lets all fight ot make this thread better and only post with boob pics

>>736741070
I would build a visual representation, call it a God-O-Meter and show it idling at the zero mark.

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booooob pics

>>736740849
>implying a god would think or even think like a human.

>>736740849

And what are the odds this god is good, and reward his sheep?

I'd think the odds of a god being good, or evil, would be 50/50.

There's a greater chance that a good god forgives you for not believing, due to lack of evidence, than for an evil god to spare you just because you hoped kissing his ass would make him not torture you:
Betrayal is more evil than not betraying.

>>736741628
ever watched two different ants fighting to death?

>>736740666

No, I mean that this is part of the demonstration of the argument. I have established (with the hertzwilligers) that princessposter claims to be unable or unwilling to reject an assertion, even if it is logically impossible. My assertion that posting will kill everyone but princessposter is an example of an assertion which simply cannot be logically rejected (it can just be demonstrated to be vanishingly small). Princessposter has already claimed that if one cannot logically reject an assertion then one must believe the assertion, ergo princessposter is either no longer posting in the thread, or is a lying faggot.

We, can deduce that, if princessposter has stopped posting in the thread, anyone else sharing princessposter's views has also stopped posting (for the same reason). Therefore any post consistent with the princessposting stance on belief is a demonstration of the validity of rejecting an unfounded assertion, even without the ability to demonstrate its logical inconsistency.

It is the worship of the ego

>>736724787
quit yer 2016 memes

>>736742158

Thus, we are left with the view that rejecting an unfounded assertion (one without satisfactory evidence) is valid without recourse to demonstrating the logical inconsistency of the assertion.

An atheist is one who rejects the unfounded assertion 'at least one god exists'. It is not necessary for anyone to define terms in this statement in order to reject it, as it lacks sufficient evidence in the first place.

>>736725443
yes, feeling is completely logical. If you feel it you think it ergo it is logic. You need some philosophy lessons

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>>736726245
Oldfag here. These threads have definitely been around for over a decade.

Atheists are the easiest to troll, they go nuts if you bash their religion.

Well, Atheism is what gives an intellectual his power. It's an euphoria field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.

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More tits

RELIGION IS LIKE A PENIS
It's okay to have one
It's okay to be proud of it
HOWEVER
do not pull it out in public
do not push it on children
do not write laws with it
do not think with it

>>736744522
>Atheists are the hardest to troll, they actually enjoy philosophical debates.
>The low hanging fruit tastes sweet, none the less

>>736744895

Do you happen to know slowpoke?

Slowpoke remembers a person who loved tits like that.

>>736731421
if you don't know what this type of trolling is then that means you are the newfag

>>736744895
those nipple are so THICC and suckable

I bet they make perfect milk on demand

>>736724787
Why can't muslims stop bombing ?

>>736746619
the day will come they wish they had.

You're all wrong

Love, the agnostics

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>>736726124
This post gave me a sensible chuckle.

>>736726083
Ooooo no comeback from op, thread