Muslim hate bread

terrorists don't follow actual Muslim idealogoy cunt

>>736161714
Typical terrorist sympathizer

>>736161598
...that isn't a chart showing religious affiliation

They don't even list it as "Islam" but as "Islamism" meaning a political dogma.

Other things listed on that chart:
>Irish Republicanism
>Communism
>Maoism
>Anglo Nationalism
>Militant Trade Unionism


I mean, fuck. Use a real chart

>>736161714
Yes they do, retard. They follow it a fuck ton more closely than their cherry picking nonviolent counterparts.

>>736161982
lol what do you know about Islam

>>736161714
says kill all infidels in the karan, faggot. maybe you should switch to christianity or something.

ITT: Asspained Paki goatfuckers

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>>736162113

>Being an sjw buzzfeed fag on /b/

Holy shit boys 4chan is done for.

>>736161598
I mean, I have sand niggers, but then again, there are a lot of terrorist attacks that are simply not deemed that because the fags ain't brown lol.

>>736162174
Donna Karan said that?

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>>736161956
here you go.

>>736162740
rekt

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>>736162740
sorry wrong pic (was right next to each other)

>>736162973
hey I didn't come here for the feels man

>>736161982
Actually most of the violent-sounding shit in the Quran is taken WAY out of historical context. Most often it's non-muslims that are cherrypicking.

The "kill the infidel" shit was about a tribe of people VERY specific to the time of its writing that were fucking with everyone else and is not a general statement about nonbelievers. Even regarding those people it says something along the lines of forgive them if they stop being dicks.

Honestly the Quran could really benefit from some updating.

>>736163315
see>>736162827

I hate it when people try to white knight Islam, and thats coming from a Muslim, especially when Muslims get offended at peoples negative opinions of Islam.
>the Muslims who defend Islam are the same Muslims who listen to music
>the Muslims who defend Islam are the same Muslims who share a room with the opposite sex
>the Muslims who defend Islam are the same Muslims who cherry pick the fuck out of Islam
I cherry pick my religion too, but the reasons I'm not blowing shit up is because I value life, and my familys life, it doesn't solve shit, ISIS is Jihading for no good reason, why the fuck would I join them and become a detriment to the world? I love Islam because it I believe in Allah, and its just comforting believing that there is a God out there who cares about me, also, I've made a lot of friends from Mosques I've been too.

Islam IS violent, but the Muslims committing the violence are doing so in vain, this is senseless Jihad.

Islam IS peaceful, but the Muslims living in peace like I am are painted with the same brush as the scum Mujahideen.

Ramadan Kareem fags.

>>736163354
Ask an Imam to give you the historical context behind those quotes and I guarantee your mind will change.

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>>736163527
That's called apologetics.

Attempt to rationalize religious bullshit to make it more palatable to normal people.

And guess what? It doesn't change what people actually do or believe. Nobody gives a shit why Muhammad got kicked out of Mecca, all they know is that he came back and conquered the city followed by the whole fucking region, enslaving, subjugating, and forcibly converting everyone he could. That's what people are still nostalgic for 1400 years later, not whatever overwrought apologetic bullshit a 5th columnist Imam uses to justify his tax exemption.

http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/
Here is a list of mass shooting terrorist attacks in America the vast majority of which has been committed by white right wing christian terrorists

Muslim people are not a problem in America
The problem is the alt-right white freudian cucks in America

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>>736165454
Be mad if you wish white people are the problem we need a white genocide

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>>736165362
>>736165581
>Muslim people are not a problem in America
Not an argument. How about in Europe where this shit (pic) happens daily?

>>736165884
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers_(Europe)

Again white nationalist freudian cucks
your race needs to be exterminated

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>>736165362
>White people do it too. So don't blame muslims when muslims do it

Your argument is shit.

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>>736166226
Never said don't blame Muslims I'm just saying blame white people more since statistically they do it more

I wish death to you and your pitiful race

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>>736165366
lost

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>>736163475

sand niggers are gay

>>736166098
you know, i'm looking through this list starting with the most recent ones, The ones with start out with unknown killer, second is an serbian third is an IRANIAN-GERMAN, fourth is an BOSNIAN-MUSLIM. I'm not recognizing this trend of whites in this rampage killer list, the only factor that actually seems to be present at a high rate seems to be mental health issues of the perpetrator

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>>736166408
>I wish death to you and your pitiful race
How long have you been part of the religion of peace?

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>>736167088
dubs for truth

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>>736167355
the serb is probably just traumatised from removing too much kebap, so basically also islam's fault

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>>736167377
come on, he really can't help it, it's like the story of the scorpion and the frog: it's in his nature

>>736167088
>>736162822
>>736163199
>>736165366
>>736167355
>>736167377
>>736167533
Dubs of truth

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>>736167697
also, checked

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They just don't get along with anyone.

>>736162113
I am a muslim

I love bacon

>>736167909
im ok with that, as long as you don't get triggered.

Hello fuckfags, I am a former Muslim, aka an exMuslim aka the artist formally known as Muslim.

Ask me anything.

>>736168165
How does feel that your family might want to kill you for leaving Islam (if you come from a muslim famiy)?

>>736167355
Are you able to read in terms of recency the first 12 are white you corn feed piece of shit

this is why your race needs to be exterminated

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>>736168165
was leaving islam a gradual process or did you have some kind of epiphany?

also, congratulations, while i do have less respect for people when they tell me they are religious, i have the utmost respect for anyone who managed to leave his religion after many years of indoctrination

>>736167377
I don't believe in any religion it turns a man into a mindless cuck

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>>736165362
>sites FakeNewsSourceLaTimes.com

>>736161714
no true scotsman

Educated Muslim here, you don't meet people like me everyday, so ill clear up any misconceptions/questions you may have.

>How does feel that your family might want to kill you for leaving Islam (if you come from a muslim famiy)?

My immediate family wouldn't kill me, but my mother would be heartbroken. My extended family would think i am an amoral retard.

>was leaving islam a gradual process or did you have some kind of epiphany?

I never really believed, even as a kid i thought it was just mythology but i never mentiond that because it would cause problems.

Most people go thru a gradual process though.

>>736168451
>that picture
>implying atheism has anything to do with electronics and thermodynamics
What I'm trying to say is, being an atheist doesn't make you smart by default, the majority of you guys are retards

>>736162670
This is fucking hilarious. Had to look it up to make sure it was true.

>>736168561
Okay all record of properly cited events are fake news
This is why the men of your race are being feminized and your women will be raped
I hope you live long enough to the the cuckolding of your race

>>736168615
Exmuslim here.

1. Are all nonMuslims going to hell?

https://quran.com/3/85

>And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.

2. What is the punishment in an ideal Islamic state, if two mature consenting adults admit to making love without a marriage license?

https://quran.com/24/2

>The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

3. What are your sources of information after the Quran? Do you accept Sahih Bukhari? If you deny it, on what grounds?

>>736163315
Can you really update the word of God?

>>736163527
>historical context
So, if parts of your holy book are irrelevant now because the same "historical context" is no longer valid; isn't it ALL invalid?
How can you cherry pick which of it you do & do not choose to follow?

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>>736168769
yeah, nice strawman there, who the fuck said that atheists are smart by default? studies have shown that religiousity correlates with lower iq, though.

>>736168960
The quran contains several verses stating it is the final revelation from god for the rest of eternity, and other verses saying that anyone who alters it by even a stroke of the pen will face damnation.

>>736168769
No one is saying atheists are smarter
We are saying religious people like christians are stupider

>>736168907
'anonymous sources' does not a properly cited event make.
Brought to you by LATimes-CNN-MSNBC-WaPost-ObamaNews.com

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>>736161598
Real muslim here, ama.

>>736169288
These are mass shootings are you tard
I bet you are one of those guys who say Sandy Hook is a lie

>>736168921
>1. Are all nonMuslims going to hell?
Its not really my place to say, Allah is the judge in the end. However, it does say in the Quran if you don't believe in Islam, the literal word of God, you are going to hell. I personally think there may be a distinction between rebellion vs need.

>2. What is the punishment in an ideal Islamic state, if two mature consenting adults admit to making love without a marriage license?

Yep, 100 lashes, you got it. But there also has to be four witnesses to attest that intercourse happened.


>3. What are your sources of information after the Quran? Do you accept Sahih Bukhari? If you deny it, on what grounds?

I haven't gotten to Bukhari yet, im still doing the transliteration of the Quran. Transliteration takes into account the historical contexts.

Essentially, the authenticity of the Hadiths can be determined by the number of repetitions of it, which is known as "Strong" or "Weak" hadiths. I obviously value the strong ones more.

Exmuslim here.

1. Are all nonMuslims going to hell?

https://quran.com/3/85

>And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.

2. What is the punishment in an ideal Islamic state, if two mature consenting adults admit to making love without a marriage license?

https://quran.com/24/2

>The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

3. What are your sources of information after the Quran? Do you accept Sahih Bukhari? If you deny it, on what grounds?

>>736169403
astaghfirullah! that picture is haram in many ways. also sheitan thrives on this website, go away right now

>>736169347
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence
Yes cuz Democratic non-christians attack abortion clinic

>>736169288
>when asked for "legitimate" sources; cites brietbart, fox, etc

there ARE NO "legitimate" "news" sources anymore; they're all either left wing, right wing, or gov. propaganda skewed.

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>>736169598
Isnt a question, buddy.

>>736169403
If the Quran is the absolute word of God why does it contain nothing but praise for a pedophile? Wouldn't God know it's wrong to fuck children and write those things down?

>>736169658
that's probably a jinn speaking. a real muslim would never be here

>>736161714
No true scotsman fallacy.

>>736161714
Fucking apologist kys

>>736169531
>I personally think there may be a distinction between rebellion vs need.

Keep in mind, Islam includes in the very least, believe in 1 God AND Muhammad as his messenger. So non Muslims are going to hell. Not a tolerant religion.

>But there also has to be four witnesses to attest that intercourse happened.

Did you read my question? Admitting to making love or "confessing" gets 100 lashes too. Thats barbaric and retarded. This world needs more love but Islam punishes that.

> im still doing the transliteration of the Quran. Transliteration takes into account the historical contexts.

Transliteration is the wrong word.You mean tafsir/commentary/exegesis. Are you using somthing respected like ibn Kathir or some new age American liberal Muslims understanding of the Quran?

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>>736169739
i'd say that god wanted us to molest children! mashallah

>>736169617
>tries to make islamic terrorism seem like less of a problem than it actually is, by making christian terrorism more of a problem than it actually is

I think we should just start treating ALL hardcore followers of religion the same, regardless of which one it is.
We'll all be better off for it. God/Iehova/Allah/Yahweh is a fucking egomaniacal psychopath anyway.

>>736169347
cause Democrats are take charge and get shit done kinda motherfuckers. not a bunch cryin whinin repubs, "oh, the theatre should be a safe space"

>>736169739
>pedophile
Muhammad marries Aisha when she was 9, and consummated the marriage when she was 12. That was 1500 years ago... I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was common place back then for people of high status and prestige to do that, and I don't even think it was considered pedophilia...

Also the Quran makes no mention of child marriages being allowed, so many Muslims are led to believe that Allah granted the permission to his prophet to marry Aisha at such an age.

>>736161598
>haha I love how 4chan let's me be edgy without my mom slapping me and grounding me for a week XD

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>>736170114
except the ages were 6 for marriage (when he began to "thigh" her), 9 for consummation

if you don't believe me, look around, most scholars agree on this.

>>736170114
>>736170415
also, even if other people back then fucked 9 year old girls, mo is supposed to be the perfect man whom all muslim men should imitate

>>736162670
>tries to hitchhike through mid east
>gets raped and murdered in first country

kek

>>736169739
Pedophilia is redpilled and based. The stigma against it is founded on Jewish lies.

>>736169834
>Keep in mind, Islam includes in the very least, believe in 1 God AND Muhammad as his messenger. So non Muslims are going to hell. Not a tolerant religion.

Ya, belief in Allah, Muhammad, all the other Prophets, Angels, and Jinns. I believe there will be tolerance aka forgiveness for Muslims; why tolerate those who are rebel on purpose and fight against truth?


>Did you read my question? Admitting to making love or "confessing" gets 100 lashes too. Thats barbaric and retarded. This world needs more love but Islam punishes that.

In a pure Islamic government, yes. People don't want to live in a pure society, they want to do whatever they want. Which is fine, I do too. Just because your Muslim doesn't mean you have to want that.

>Transliteration is the wrong word.You mean tafsir/commentary/exegesis. Are you using somthing respected like ibn Kathir or some new age American liberal Muslims understanding of the Quran?

Ah, my apologies, you are correct, tafsir is the word I was looking for. Im using Maududi's tafsir, although I think its a little on the extreme side, such as his allegations on Freud lol, in historical contexts, it seems to be correct.

>>736170114
Exmuslim here.She was 9 when he fucked her.

>Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236


Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64

>That was 1500 years ago... I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was common place back then for people of high status and prestige to do that, and I don't even think it was considered pedophilia...

Tu Quoque fallacy. Just because other people fuck kids, doesn't make it acceptable. Plus Muhammad is supposed to be the perfect example for all of mankind.

>Also the Quran makes no mention of child marriages being allowed, so many Muslims are led to believe that Allah granted the permission to his prophet to marry Aisha at such an age.

False. Islamic scholars believe you can marry and fuck a girl after she has her first period, and the Quran does talk about marrying girls before their first period. Specifically iddat or the waiting period after divorce.

https://quran.com/65/4

>And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

>>736170541
that's more sad than funny... but i after all this is /b/, where crimes are funny as long as they validate your beliefs

>>736169531
>the authenticity of the Hadiths can be determined by the number of repetitions of it
Obviously then, you must believe in Voldemort, since there are so many copies of Harry Potter...

>>736170628

>I believe there will be tolerance aka forgiveness for Muslims; why tolerate those who are rebel on purpose and fight against truth?

There will be tolrance for Muslims but all nonMuslims will go to hell. Thats intolerant and fucked up.

>Which is fine, I do too.

Fine, so you understand that Islamic/Quranic law is retarded and blood thirsty. Its not the perfect religion.

> Im using Maududi's tafsir, although I think its a little on the extreme side, such as his allegations on Freud lol, in historical contexts, it seems to be correct.

How do you know if the historical context is correct if you haven't even read the sahih hadith? That makes no fucking sense. And fuck maududi, read ibn Kathir. why would you even bother with Maududi?

>>736170785
>where crimes are funny as long as they validate your beliefs
As opposed to everywhere else, where 10,000 crimes perpetrated by any one particular group means that group as a whole shouldn't be stereotyped for it.
Unless they're white and/or male, in which case, fuck those privileged assholes.

>>736169953
>Make statement that one type of religious extremist is more of a threat than another

>Say all religious extremists are the same

Make up your damn mind

>>736162740
one thats older than 7 years dickhead...

>>736171048
No, what I said is we should be treating them all as threats equally, as in treating them all based on how we treat the most extreme example.
So people will finally shut the fuck up about it.

>>736171088
How is it relevant to current events if it's going back beyond the current decade, when the current decade is more than halfway over?

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>>736167785
Best pic all day.

>>736171088
You are retarded. Why would someone put up an outdated chart.

>>736162113
I know some shitskin is always yelling "ALLAHU AKBAR" whenever a suicide bomb goes down

>>736163475
How do you know what God wants you to do? What if IS is right?

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>>736163527
fuck your book and fuck your "Imam". Like any liar, just look at the actions to see what they really want.

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>>736165884
This isn't the first time muslims have invaded white lands. keep pissing us off, history repeats itself.

>>736169288
Stor taking the bait.

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>>736173493
Deus vult

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>>736173493
FGSFTS - LETS START CHOPPIN SOME MUTHFUCKN HEADS

>There will be tolrance for Muslims but all nonMuslims will go to hell. Thats intolerant and fucked up.

Tell me why you deserve pity if you are rebelling because you cannot control your desires?

>Fine, so you understand that Islamic/Quranic law is retarded and blood thirsty. Its not the perfect religion.

The religion is perfect. If the laws we're implemented, there would be justice. You think theft, lying and adultery are petty matters when in reality, they are not. Philando Castle is also another great example of injustice.

>How do you know if the historical context is correct if you haven't even read the sahih hadith? That makes no fucking sense. And fuck maududi, read ibn Kathir. why would you even bother with Maududi?

Because I cross referenced it with the revelation periods. I have read a lot of the hadiths, but not completely. Whats the correlation between hadiths and historical context? The hadiths were compiled after the death of the Muhammad.

Maududi spent 30 years compiling these, and the accuracy of the information delivered has been correct so far. Ibn Kathir seems to be Shaafi. I may use Maududi and cross reference with him Ibn Kathir, depending on if I agree with what he says.

>>736161714
>This

Funny how nobody consider the KKK as Christian, even if they do identify them as.
It's literraly the same thing for ISIS

>>736174016
>>736170949

>>736174171
The fuck is you talking about, nigger? Of course we consider the KKK Christian. But even in their hayday of oppressing and lynching niggers and hating on Jews they were no where near as bad as ISIS.

>>736173854
>>736173493
I agree swords do a better job than missiles. Now excuse me while i find where to buy an armor and sword.

>>736174171
THE KKK isnt doing jack shit!
They arent killing people or waging war or anything!
The kkk isnt even international, the kkk right now is a few hundred hillbillys in the usa!
And havent killed orndone any terrorist acts.

I cant believe how fucking retarded you are to compare isis and kkk, how much of a dumb dipshit do you have to be for that? Shit for brains!

When was the last time anyone heard of kkk blowing themselves up or beheading someone?

Literally the kkk is a few hundred hillbilly rednecks hiding in the woods, not even worth mentioning.
The biggest terrorist act they have done in near history is beating up a few niggers and insulting them.

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>>736174171
The KKK doesn't exist anymore in any meaningful way. When's the last KKK attack u heard of? the last muslim attack? It's called false equivalence, son. Learn to logical fallacies

>>736163475
No thanks im not gonna buy a magic carpet not today

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>>736161598

>>736175137
>>736174556

You guys should learn why someone can have the idea to blow the fck out in your face with a smile.
Maybe because USA isn't "bringing freedom" as they always say, maybe because the world is so unbalanced that for some people, it's the only way? I don't know what media you're watching/reading, but you guys need alternative sources, travel, and see by yourself

> "The biggest terrorist act they have done in near history is beating up a few niggers and insulting them"
oh yeah, it's niggers, never mind.
You guys are soooo human

>>736175796

Fucker on the far right needs to fall back in line

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>>736165362
Yea but you can use them to make US ignorant and have trump be a president another 20 terms while we suck king of arabias oil dick

>>736165884
And your point ?

>>736165884
Australia isn't a part of Europe & that shit doesn't happen here fucktard.

>>736175100
>I agree swords do a better job than missiles. Now excuse me while i find where to buy an armor and sword.
Dubs of truth. Also, it wouldbe badass if military fucks just carried a samurai sidearm, and hacked mofos to shit when shit gets weird. War is war. I say let the dogs run.

>>736175912
No, I fully understand that we're doing what we do to protect our own interests. I just don't care. That's how the world works and I want my cheap gas. But muzzies aren't doing themselves any favors acting like uncivilized zealots. But it doesn't really matter, once the oil starts drying up the mid east won't be relevant.

>>736166226
Logic.jpeg

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>>736175928
I'm not afraid of your bike lock, comrade.

>>736163296
Love this one, fucking kek >.<"

>>736166476
I dont care he is from sand dunes towel man

>>736163315
>The "kill the infidel" shit was about a tribe of people VERY specific to the time of its writing

Called christians...

>>736166597
Nigga is Tru fuckin player

>>736176283
Samurai swords are BTFO by Western swords.

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>>736175912
Shut up, dickhole. We're going full retard, and nobody cares if you like it.

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>>736167909

>>736168106
You wish .. Afluent wasps never talk to FoBs like this

>>736161956
It says "Ideology"

>>736168165
Are you gonna party like its 1999?

>>736175796
This would be hilarious.
Make it radioactive for that long lasting clean

>>736165362
B8

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>>736176859
>mfw muzzies still hajj there thinking allah will protect them, then get sick and die

Fuck Communists and fuck niggers and fuck white cucks.

>>736170114
Dubs or it didnt happen

>>736177150
Asian man detected.

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>>736175912
human beings fight for resources. everything fights for resources. where have you been? The middle east has been the worlds oil bitch since the early 1900's. The world is like that because not everyone is as sheltered and sophisticated as you are, people fight. I like how you appeal to fairness and balance, then imply someone isn't human because they used a word you don't like. sort yourself out nig

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>>736167418

His fucking face.

Every fucking time.

>>736177253
You mean The future ruling class of the United states

RELIGION OF PEACE https://youtu.be/rFC4qsjpfEs

>>736177494
One of the ruling races maybe. Yall can't completely displace the whites and jews.

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>>736175590
>Learn to logical fallacies
I'd really rather not. This is the worst and cringiest fedora shit that's ever happened to 4chan. You faggots use this to weasel out of giving a substantive answer to something you don't like, and not only that, you act like you think it's supposed to make you look smart. Keep that autism on Reddit.

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>>736161598

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>>736177914
>learn logic
>I'd really rather not
>rather not
>learn
keep on with ur bad self then

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>>736177494
>You mean The future ruling class of the United states
Ha, no.

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>>736178372

>>736178360
>implying any of you faggots actually care about logic

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>>736176409
> >.<"

Mfw you're a retarded faggot.

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>>736178527
how presumptive of you, madame.

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>>736178482
Why dont we sit down and talk about you suckin my dick?

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>>736161598

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>>736161598

What the fuck happened? Is it time for prayer, or what?

>>736181250
Well it's 3am cst in Murrica, so...

>>736162693
Did the artist seriously believe the old man on the right would hang out with people younger than him thrice?

>>736181250
Fuck off

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>>736182020

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>>736161598

>>736182713
for those that stayed up late
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lwypeJzAkE

>>736161598
no they don't hate bread, they hate pork

>>736182961
Newfag, b8, or stupid joke?

>>736166098
Sent from your iPhone with mom's WiFi in a gated all white community

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Guys this year everything is going to change. Peaceful well mannered and educated alt right movements like defend-europe and generation identitaire are gaining support and population massively. Right political parties are reaching significant support. Rights facts based journalism is becoming mainstream. Dialogue and debate about immigration and religion, and open support to nationalism is becoming acceptable. Everything is going to get better. Everyone support the cause! Spread the word! Follow the non extremist right FB pages. Share the posts! Repair the word!

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>>736182020
You fuck off.

>>736183455
I hope so, for Yurop's sake. Just don't get too crazy with nationalism. We don't want another world war.

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>>736183455
I apologise for my bad grammar. I got a little over exited.

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>>736183755

>>736183455
Austrian here: We have elections in october and it looks very good that our right party wins. Thank good, i hope its not too late. But we better nuke vienna, all hope is lost there.

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>>736183755
What kinda scares me is that i start thinking that something like this must be how the nazi era started off. I have started to feel understanding about the whole thing. Maybe it was necessary back then, and we have to do it over in a civilized way. Not by killing millions for example but by return immigrants to their Homeland, closing up europe and pay more support money and military support to countries in problems to create safe spaces

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>>736183881

>>736184190
not everything was bad back then

>>736184190
>support money and military support to countries in problems to create safe spaces

In other words neo colonialism. Which I wouldn't necessarily be against. Because if you send food/money to a shithole like say Sudan they'll just use it to buy weapons if we don't impose order.