Are christians being descriminated against?

Thats retarded.

If you leave the house, and you bring something up.

>Hey I like X

>Hey I am Y

>Hey I feel Z

And these are decision you made. What you've just said is okay to stand up to scrutiny.

You feelings, beliefs, and desires are not protect beliefs.

>>735783475
>what is freedom of speech

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>waaaaa I am discriminated even though I'm white so fuck everything ever

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>>735783245
Where they the ones in the holocaust?
They've been discriminated for years.
Or the ones in the middle east?
Years
Or native culture?
Years

you're allowed to believe whatever you want, but also other people are allowed to think your beliefs are dumb.

>>735783776
>hahaah fuck white people
typical
>>735783811
A tragedy the size of the holocaust is taking place in the united states alone every year and nobody is talking about it.
>>735784158
But we're not allowed to teach our children the way we want?

Yes. Clearly a fedora tipping atheist Made both movies to make Christians look like bitchy cucks.

Are we talking actual discrimination or just being told things you don't like?

>>735783245
Yes,Christians must fight for our rights.

>>735784615
Your a special brand of stupid aren't ya?
>Holocaust level disasters happen in US every day.
>Claiming that well over 2 million Americans are being slaughtered in the name of religion and racial purity.
Alex Jones is that you???

>>735784615
A tradegy the size of the holocaust? Get off the drugs.

>>735785365
http://www.conservapedia.com/Abortion_statistics

>>735785464
Not born=not human. Get over it faggot.

>>735785464
>conservapedia

Fuck i haven't seen that site since 2010

>>735785464
>conservapedia
Ayyy

>>735785526
slight false. Not Born = Human (DNA-wise)

Not Born = Not person,

>>735785526
>Not born=not human.
https://www.spuc.org.uk/abortion/human-development-of-the-unborn-child
We have X-Rays nowadays idiot, you can look at them and see they're clearly babies.

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>>735783245
Only by fat neckbeards that look like this

>>735785795
>Not Born = Not person,
By what definiton exactly?

>>735785568
>>735785693
"tolerant" left

>>735785832
Still doesn't change the fact if they aren't born they aren't a person (thanks anon above).

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This is where Christianity is today.

>>735785979
All of them. By your standards where do we draw they line? Is a one hour old fertililised egg considered a person?

>>735783245
i don't mind people being superstitious, but when they demand federal laws to be built around them which everybody has to obey, then fuck that and fuck them.

>>735786286
strawman argument

>>735786524
>i don't mind people being superstitious
being superstitious is a sin in the catholic church
>>735786187
"fact"

>>735783245
alteration from catechization

>>735784615
what is the tragedy

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Yes, but only in shitholes like the Middle East. They aren't being discriminated against in the U.S.

The funny thing about God's Not Dead 2 is that the exact opposite situation is the one that actually happens.

>>735783245
Yes they are

>https://youtu.be/I6PPk2NOQXs

>>735783245
God is dead.

We are Gods now.

>>735787013
religion is a book of superstition. it's a belief system that expects people to believe what it says by virtue of itself alone and resists any attempts to question its validity.

and that's fine for personal or spiritual reasons. there's tons of stuff i believe in that doesn't make any scientific sense but im not going to go around and pretend it makes me a better person than everyone else who doesn't believe it.

Christians come in two flavors. chill ones who want to share the things that are spiritually uplifting to them when the opportunity presents itself, and miserable self hating death-cultists whiling away their days to death, shitting on anything that doesn't feel the same and pray to their favorite piece of wood.

>>735787524
So you are pro-slavery? Interesting.

>>735786979
Not the poster but what part of that is a strawman? To this day we cannot elect a president unless they swear fealty to God. Abortion is only an issue because of Christian doctrine. In America why is it considered a constitutional right to deny service to a gay man but health care? That's a privilege. Right now Trump is determined to repeal the Johnson Amendment just so Christian groups can have even MORE lobbying power. Time will make us more secular. Religion only stand to explain what we cannot (yet). To have any religion dictate the will of the masses and still expect them to feel free is ludicrous at best.

>>735787524
>nobody talks about abortion

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>>735787555
Trips are right.
/thread

>>735787624
This.
I wish people would just be a good person to be a good person instead of monitizing their actions as currency for their soul.

>>735783245
>Are christians being descriminated against?

no.
but they are whining like bitches because other faiths, races, sexualities, creeds etc are being given the same privileges they've enjoyed for generations.

>>735787635
Where does it say I'm pro-slavery? Are you autistic?
>>735787641
The part where it shows a caricature instead of a well rounded argumentative person.

>>735787524
more dead babies = less unloved children that grow into hateful, dangerous adults.

main reason i have no problem with abortion.

>>735787624
You know people have witnessed miracles, right?
Also http://www.totalizm.pl/god_proof.htm

>>735787013
So at what point do they become a person? From the second the egg is ferilidef to being born?

>>735787898
If you are anti-choice, you are pro-slavery.

>>735787947
You know people have witnessed Bigfoot, right?

>>735787873
Kinda this. It's almost like how white people are crying about how things seem unfair now regardless of us opressing damn near every race on the planet for well over 400 years.

>>735787996
Why do you care about what happened 400 years ago? Care about now, idiot.

>>735787967
>Implying women should have a choice
>Implying women are people

>>735783245
>Are christians being descriminated against?
>descriminated

Their stupidity.

>>735787928
replace babies with jews and you don't sound so rightous do you?
>>735787967
Libtards never cease to amaze me with their stupidity. But go on, explain to me how that means I support slavery.
>>735787965
At the point of conception, that's when our soul appears.

>>735788066
Anon was obviously referring to how religious people care about hundreds of years ago.

>>735783245
Yea, it's a down-right fursecution, we should be able to worship our stick-kike without any big bad meanies ruining our child grooming.

>>735788147
Thanks anon. I just get so triggered and enraged at the words, "white person".

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>>735787873
>other faiths, races are being given the same privileges

Yeah it's working really great for Europe

>>735788125
Lol as soon as you said "soul" your opinion was meaningless.

>>735788125
You are forcing someone, who has done no wrong, to use their body in a way that is against their will.

>>735783245
religion provides a sense of community to certain individuals who would otherwise spiral into self destruction. ive seen religion save many people.

but i also see religion as a business that preys on the weak. offering salvation in exchange for loyalty and donations.


religion can be amazing depending on how its used. personally, i do not associate with any organized religion but follow a more self aware spirituality. i still believe in god, but refuse to personify god.


religions people are indeed discriminated against, but so is everyone. we all , as humans, feel more comfortable next to people that are similar to us. its natural for us humans to ostracize each other if they are different.

>>735788194
there is a lot of scientific evidence for it and none against it. Try again. http://www.conservapedia.com/Soul

>>735788125
>slavery only occurs when I am point a gun at someone and force them to work.
>I don't do that, so I am good right derp?

>>735788066
If you don't learn from your past your doomed to repeat it. We can't go generations looking at different ethnicities saying "suck it up" then it hits 2000 and suddenly white people are opressing. Yup totally fair. As a white person I hate that their isn't a single bigoted word towards white people that offends me. I hate that if I see a white man in a dark ally I feel more comfortable than if it were a black man. We are soo steeped in privelage that it's almost hereditary.

>>735788250
>there is a lot of scientific evidence for it
Blatant lie.

>>735788196
>hurr durr work is slavery
>hurr durr what are consequences of actios
typical liberal doesn't know shit about responsibility

>>735788194
>believes humans are the body.

you will leave your body one day and understand that consciousness is a separate entity.

>>735788250
Using some ancient religion based site is hardly evidence. Try again.

>>735788312
And you know that how? Because some ancient book full of Chinese whispers told you?

>>735788066
>Why do you care about what happened 400 years ago? Care about now, idiot.

Because if you do not know what happened in the past, you will inevitably repeat the same mistakes.

what that guy is saying is, 400 (or 100, or even 25) years ago, Christians, particularly white, middle-class Christians, were given HUGE amounts of social advantage, compared to say, a black couple, or a gay/les couple, or a Jewish family, and so on. Now those people are gaining equal rights, those people who have had a massive advantage for centuries are up in arms claiming that they are being "discriminated against" and its a "war against Christians" and all sorts of shit.

>>735788306
Work is consensual and you can quit at any time.
>consequences of actions
So you are pro-choice for rape victims?

>>735788306
>Liberal blame cop-out.
Your argument is instantly invalid. Everyone that doesn't agree with you isn't automatically a liberal.

>>735788303
>>735788338
Had you have actuallly read the article you would have known about the Duncan MacDougall experiment by now.
>if you can't see it it isn't real, if I don't read the article it didn't happen
This is what you sound like.

>>735788267
You make zero sense anon. Why do you want bigoted words for people?

And there is a difference between learning from the past, and letting the past dictate the future.

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>>735788196
>help me my boss is FORCING me to work! This is SLAVERY
snowflakes

>>735788066
That's very convenient.

When white people want to take credit for shit they didn't do
>Hurr durr we whites inventeds everything for the last 200 years! We're so awesome!! I am literally the same as Issac Newton. Bow down to me shitskins and gooks! We literally gave you the modern world. It is relevant today!! Your welcome.

When non-whites remind whites of other stuff they did...
>Hurr durr, forget the past nigger!! It had nothing to do with me!! I am not a slave owner and I had nothing to do with it!! I never murdered a single native American. Judge us as individuals you stupid racist shitskin!!! Worry about now, that shit is not relevant today!!!!!!!

>>735788472
>Had you have actuallly read the article you would have known about the Duncan MacDougall experiment by now.
I've known about it for years. I've also known that it's garbage for years, which 30 seconds of research would show you.

>>735783245
Yeah, with the Catholics they tried to destroy Muslims and Islam. It didn't work, now those worthless savages are getting revenge with the Jews pulling the strings.
Do yourself a favor, kill a Jew or Muslim today!

>>735787947
there's pictures of the lochness monster, aliens, videos of reptilian celebrities disguises flickering, chem-trails, crop circles, there's people who claim they've seen elvis alive and well.

what's stopping me from believing all of them if i choose to believe the ones that would best affirm my personal hopes? nothing.

fuck em

>>735788196
>who has done no wrong
If it's a genuine rape the human body has a way to shut the process down. Those occur rarely however because most women nowadays enjoy "rape" as evidenced by such books as "fifty shades of gray" and simmilar things I'm sure you know alot about.
That means the woman hase commited adultery and deserves punishment.

>>735788546
>help me my boss is REQUESTING that I work! This isn't SLAVERY because I can quit at any time
retard

>>735788385
personal experience and anecdotal evidence mainly.

its what ive chosen to have faith in while i wait for a scientific explanation of consciousness that may never come.

until then, my faith, be it false hope or not, is enough to calm my existential qualms.

>>735788663
ayy lmao

>>735788476
That's exactly how history works...we had WW2 and thus got a historic automation boom throwing us into a new era of economic prosperity. Our history DIRECTLY determined our course. Stating history doesn't dictate our actions is almost on par with denying evolution.

/b/

how crazy is the idea that god was an alien.

read any religious text with the mindset that all divine beings mentioned are aliens and the books will make total sense.

>>735788472
A bullshit experiment by retard religious idiots.
Fact is making abortion illegal makes more homeless people, more self abortion (ie death), more abounded children or at best more single parents. And statistically children from from single parents are far more likely to commit crime.
Their is no benefit to making abortion illegal other than for religious reasons.

>>735788602
Actually, I (myself as a white person) have done jack shit. You (as whatever race you are) probably haven't either.

Somebody did everything in the past, and someone wrote the books of history. But let's be honest, nobody cares who invented what.

So why does there need to be a pissing contest over who did what?

Move on?

>>735788819
>how crazy is the idea that god was an alien.
Less crazy than God being some sort of spirit, more crazy than God just being made up.

>>735788808
A diagnosed crazy person could make the same claim.

>>735788607
>I've also known that it's garbage for years, which 30 seconds of research would show you.
Convinient you didn't post this "proof"

everyone is racist.
everyone is bigoted.
everyone is flawed.

the faster we get over ourselves and our beliefs, the faster we can all come together for greater good.

>>735788839
I find it very convenient that anti-abortion people want to stop women from killing unborn children but won't step up to raise the child that the mother can't support. Do they even know how overwhelmed the foster system is?

>>735786006
Who said i was on the left?

>>735788979
>state that the earth is round
>convenient you didn't post this "proof"

>>735788808
Missed quints

And I wouldn't exactly call WW2 a shining rainbow colored example of history helping improve the world.

I'm sure if you hold inventors to gunpoint, they can achieve new things. But is that helpful?

Christians are selfish and hypocritical as fuck. They're almost as bad as the Jews.

They're all bad really. Their crybaby shit won't even matter when the Western world is majority atheist/agnostic because the church can't keep millennials.

>>735789006
>the faster we can all come together for greater good.
And kill off the sand religions.

>>735788921
>more crazy than God just being made up.
is it though?

all these civilizations throughout the past couple thousand years have had some form of god.

how is it that every place on earth came up with the same ideas, like pyramids, spirits, and afterlifes?

perhaps they all witnessed alien beings and could only describe them as something resembling gods.

>>735783245
No, you're just insecure.
Why isn't your belief holding you up?

>>735789054
I'm sure that would hold up in a university.
I have science data behind me, you have an earth meme.

>>735789112
yeah i agree. those guys gotta go.
theyre too primitive.

but the westernized ones can stay imo.

>>735789015
Exactly. The same people who disagree with abortion disagree with any social welfare.
I agree sluts are bad, but that works for males and females. But accidents happen. If someone becomes pregnant and knows they can't look after the child it's better for everyone if they terminate.

>>735789145
>how is it that every place on earth came up with the same ideas, like pyramids, spirits, and afterlifes?
Humans are fundamentally similar. We aren't special snowflakes. We come up with similar ideas and delusions.

>>735789159
>I have science data behind me
Convenient that you didn't post this data.

>>735789112
Honestly Islam wouldn't be that bad if only it's leaders would reform like Christianity did.
>Old testament then: Yes feel God's wrath non believer heathens!
>Old testament now: eh, seems too angry, let's make it more relatable to the times.
Islam is still at stage 1 for many Muslims.

>>735789204
>but the westernized ones can stay imo.
Nah man. All the sand religions g2g. Even the 'westernized' ones are cancer.

>>735788125
jew = living, already born humans who are part of an ethnicity or religion

fetus = cellular division still in the process of creating a barely sentient baby.

kind of a big difference there.

>>735789145
You think ancient people are to be relied upon?
Facts are we know many parts of the bible story is wrong thanks to modern science. Why should we believe any of it?

>>735789289
>like Christianity did
Yet Christianity is still monstrously evil.

>>735783245
Well, Jesus said that whomever would hoose to follow him would immediately be hated by the world; but aside from that, they are the world's most persecuted 'religious' peoples in that they have been getting ruthlessly slaughtered in Africa, the Middle East and China for years. So yes, they are.

>>735783245
Some are.

But overall, it's not the individuals that are being discriminated. it's the ideas, and ideas that are stupid should be discriminated.

>>735789289
The fact there is an old and New Testament just shows the bible is bullshit.
What sort of idiot follows an "all knowing" god who is a hypocrite?

>>735789263
>We come up with similar ideas and delusions.

what about the things that just appeared spontaneously? like language?

and also what about the architecture built using mathematics used by modern day engineers and architects?

ancient people understood the cosmos almost to the level that we understand today.

>>735789285
I posted it earlier retard. http://www.conservapedia.com/Soul

>>735789458
Stop watching Ancient Aliens. Start actually looking this shit up.

>>735789352
>Facts are we know many parts of the bible story is wrong thanks to modern science. Why should we believe any of it?

you dont have to believe all of it.
why cant one just take the good and leave the bad? why must the whole thing be disregarded because of a couple flaws?

>>735789365
Not really. They're vocal and manipulative but not violent.

Meanwhile in places like Saudi Arabia, it's literally the medieval ages with firearms.

>>735783245
I'm a Roman Catholic and I get shunned by friends for doing / saying religious things sometimes

>>735789480
Conservapedia is not scientific literature. You get an F anon.

>>735789216
This bet not only do they oppose abortion in general but the abortion of disabled children that would lead very painful lives like down syndrome and microcephaly.

>>735783245
No, (at least in the US) the majority of people in the country and the majority of the people in power are Christians.

>>735789528
>They're vocal and manipulative but not violent.
Except they are violent. Children are kidnapped and abused for instance.

>>735789514
lol but thats shits interesting.

exploring ridiculous ideas leads to new discovery i think.

not saying im gonna uncover some golden truth watching tv. but its interesting and makes for fun coversation.

>>735789528
christianity has been at the center of violent white supremacy for ages anon.

>>735784615
Go suck Alex Jones dick.

I hope to Christ you never have kids.

>>735789585
It's also just entertainment that has been largely debunked. They intentionally mislead the viewer.

>>735789451
Eh I don't blame anyone for following a religion. Usually it's just what they are raised with. It's just when they use their ideology to opressing anyone that doesn't align with their faith. Christianity isn't directly crazy anymore it's more political now.

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Christians are annoying passive aggressive pieces of shit just like that fucking Jesus guy.

At least Muhhamed will straight up decapitated you, Jesus will just annoy you to death with pleasantries and his smug attitude.

>>735789643
>I hope to Christ you never have kids.
my librarian told me this in highschool once cuz i walked behind her instead of in front of her.

she was like 80 years old and half blind.

laughed pretty hard.

>>735789550
it has a scientific experiment in it

>>735789644
how was it debunked?
they found an alien and he told the interviewer "nah fam, that wasnt us" ?

what do u mean anon!!??

>>735789707
I'm sorry anon, but it doesn't.

>>735789678
"Passive aggressive" tell me more about the crusades.

>>735789643
I know for a fact you never willl cuck

>>735789678
14 year old detected.

>>735785464
Nothing with the word conservative or republican in the name is ever worth taking seriously.

>>735789745
>It should be noted that there was once a study made at the turn of the 20th century by Duncan MacDougall of the loss of weight at the time of death. The scientist doing the measurements concluded that this loss of weight (approximately three quarters of an ounce) was due to the soul leaving the body.[1] He also did a similar experiment with dogs, but found no change in weight, which would match the Chistian concept that of God's creations on the earth, humans alone have souls. No known attempts to follow up his work have ever been made.
There is a source attached even.
Are you blind or a liar?

>>735789793
"""tolerant""" left
Can't even listen to other's opinions

>>735789021
He clearly did, because you have to be in his mind, otherwise how can he claim to be the voice of everyone on the right?

>>735789740
For instance, in one episode they say that certain stones / structures could only have been produced using modern tools and techniques (diamond drills and lasers if I remember right). However, it was then shown that just using fucking sand and bronze / copper tools would have been sufficient, and in fact is what they did because there were partially made structures in the area that the show didn't put on screen.

It's trash anon.

>>735783245
who honestly gives a shit

>>735789793
That's not exactly fair. Republicans can do great good. They are better in areas of security and finances. Democrats are better at private sector issues and civil rights. I'll take a Republican to a gunfight, I'll take a Democrat to a rally or debate.

>>735789831
>Are you blind or a liar?
Neither. Go ahead and read the source. It does not follow the scientific method.

has anyone here ever had a loved one the passed away only to be visited by them in your dreams?

i used to have this cousin that would play runescape back in the day. hed play all day every day and id sit and watch him. but he was kind of mean to me. always made fun of me as older siblings do. one day he had a sever asthma attack and passed away at 15.

about 2 days later i had a dream where i walked into his house and he was sitting on the couch. he said "hey anon! whats up?" i felt so happy. for the whole dream we hung out, played runescape and talked. at the end he said goodbye and hugged me.

i woke up the next morning and he was still gone. but i swear i was visited by him. say what you want of it.

>>735790006
Like you said, it was a dream.

>>735783245
I think they have become background noise.

>>735789898
what about the other unexplained things the show talks about?

the things that havnt been debunked?
proving one thing fake doesnt make the whole thing fake. it loses a bit of credibility sure, but whats wrong about having an open mind on things.

the mormons believe god is an alien and that religion is pretty established.

>>735789831
I heard about this Soo it isn't entirely trash but the issue with it is it isn't established science. Doing something once and claiming something happened is different than multiple reaserchers doing the same test and getting the same result. Do you even scientific method brah?

>>735789855
Nope. Because the only thing republicans want is more white, southern, republican christians, and if you don't further their agenda, you're a fucking immoral atheist faggot. Fuck that, climate change is real, gays deserve to be treated like human fucking beings, god isn't real, everyone deserves the same respect EXCEPT those who they themselves cannot show others the same respect they desire for themselves. Show no tolerance to those who show no tolerance themselves. Show no kindness to those who refuse to be kind to others based on superfluous differences like skin color or sexual orientation.

>>735789951
a republican nation would do great if all the citizens where hard working and not lazy.

a democratic nation would do great if all the citizens where hippies and populations where kept small.

>>735783245
Did they already made a sequel?
But people aren't even done laughing at the Sorbo infested first one.
I mean it's an entire movie of some piss poor reasoning, that somehow convinces a pretend atheist to stop pretending.

>>735790141
> it loses a bit of credibility sure
Right. There's no reason to take the show seriously.
>whats wrong about having an open mind on things.
Open mind != believing whatever you come across
>the mormons believe god is an alien and that religion is pretty established.
The mormons also believe other crazy bullshit.

>>735789956
>It does not follow the scientific method.
It does
>>735790151
The reason nobody has been able to repeat the experiment is because the governent is extensivly trying to shut it down. They don't allow to weight the dying anymore and if you kill a dog, even if it is for science, you'll get locked up for "cruelty".
Even if someone has done it in secret, we would never find out because the media wouldn't dare talk about it.

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>>735790279
>It does.
It doesn't.

That sure was fun.

>>735790095
perhaps i feel differently about it because of my belief in what dreams are.

>>735789263
>>how is it that every place on earth came up with the same ideas, like pyramids

because a pile of rocks on top of each other at about a 45 degree angle is the optimal angle to maintain stability without risk of collapse, while maximising height.

>>735790192
Ghandi would disagree half of what you said but regardless your not being fair. There are many moderate Republicans that are pro LGBT, pro separation of church and state, and only want a more balanced budget for the country. Democrats mean well but if every Democrat policy went into effect we would be bankrupt. It's a Republicans job to balance the books. Lately though we've become Soo divided that mud-slinging is all everyone knows how to do.

>>735790308
It has a test subject, compares it to dogs, compares it to humans with souls intact (living)
What more do you want?

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>>735790326
If you don't believe that dreams are sounds and images that your brain generates while you sleep, then you're wrong.

>>735790271
>Open mind != believing whatever you come across
never said i believed it. i only said it was fun to talk / think about. my beliefs are way different and have nothing to do with aliens.

>The mormons also believe other crazy bullshit
world renowned scientists believe crazy shit sometimes. just take a look at michio kaku. or other ancient scientifics that where imprisoned for having crazy but correct beliefs.

>>735790388
A valid setup, a meaningful number of data points, and replication of results.

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>>735788125
> At the point of conception, that's when our soul appears.

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>>735790402
>doesn't respect the constitution
If you don't like it move to europe.

>>735790416
i believe dreams are not entirely created by the dreamer. controllable? sure.

i believe its an altered state of consciousness.
a level where we go when we die.
where we go when we dream and where we go when we trip balls on drugs.

>>735790466
>A valid setup
Checked
>a meaningful number of data points
Checked
>and replication of results
to >>735790279

>>735790480
to
>>735786006

>>735790430
>world renowned scientists believe crazy shit sometimes
Yeah, and they're frequently wrong. Being a scientist doesn't make you immune to believing crazy bullshit.
>or other ancient scientifics that where imprisoned for having crazy but correct beliefs
The time to believe something is when it can be shown to be correct.

>>735790378
I just don't see it. All I see are republicans being 100% A-OK with what Trump is doing, show me a highly regarded, influential republican in Congress that thinks climate change is real, not someone fringe with no say in anything.

>>735790525
Nope to all three.

>>735790515
And you believe this... why?

>>735790571
Post arguments as to why maybe?

>>735790279
Actually they do weigh the dying, during hospice and while the coronary does the embalming. So your wrong there. But on the other hand people don't realize that the "media" isn't just people walking around with microphones. People sharing information with other people is media. You expressing your beliefs and thoughts are itself media. I will happily trust mainstream media because as anyone knows news changes the farther down the grapevine it goes. I trust the gossip of people less than a trained journalist as long as they provide sources. No fox or CNN fag here.

>>735790619
>post arguments as to why the earth isn't flat
Waste of time. If you were interested in knowing why that experiment isn't valid, you would know it by now.

>>735790546
>Yeah, and they're frequently wrong. Being a scientist doesn't make you immune to believing crazy bullshit.
but being a scientist allows you to have crazy ideas without having all your other ideas be thrown out the window?

why cant a religion be held the same way?

>The time to believe something is when it can be shown to be correct.
ill disagree with you here.

take a look at a worm.
it has no eyes. it has no sensors of light.
and yet, in a plane beyond this worm, light exists.

take a look at a fish. they have no concept of land, they know nothing beyond the ocean. but that doesnt mean the stars dont exist.

beliving something only when there is proof is ridiculous in my opinion.

>>735783245
I hope so. They've had enough time at the helm.

>>735790633
>Actually they do weigh the dying
They tell you that so they can say they have disproved it. Notice how they don't allow conservative think tanks to inspect the process. It's shady to say the least, downright false trully.

>>735790549
John McCain for one, even though he had a pretty senile spell during the hearings he still seems to have more backbone than Paul Ryan and others of his ilk.

>>735790680
>I have no arguments so i will just call you ignorant
No, please, enlighten me.

>>735783245
sure - after all 80% of population holing almost all the positions of power r denied the right to be stupid by the 19% of population identifying as no religion/atheists

>>735790589
because it justifies and fits in with all my other beliefs would be the truthful answer here.

but on a more human level, i believe this because it makes the most sense to me given my personal experiences.

>>735790764
That adds up to 99% retard.

>>735789752
Crusades were pretty passive aggressive too, Half the time they were infighting with other Christians because they didn't believe in the same shit. The only actual crusade that accomplished anything and was halfway decent was the first one and it was all downhill from there.

>>735790698
>but being a scientist allows you to have crazy ideas without having all your other ideas be thrown out the window?
Because there's this thing called the scientific method to filter out the crazy ideas.
>why cant a religion be held the same way?
Because religion doesn't have anything like the scientific method.
>ill disagree with you here.
You're free to.
>and yet, in a plane beyond this worm, light exists.
If the worm has no method to determine that light exists, then the worm is not justified in believing that light exists.
>beliving something only when there is proof is ridiculous in my opinion.
Believing something without proof is ridiculous in my opinion.

>>735787524
>source: my ass

who killed the entire planet of ppl with a flood?

>>735790729
Oh so regardless on if I have seen them weigh my grandfather on his death bed you would still cry foul and cite Alex Jones wouldn't you?

>>735790751
Enlighten yourself.

>>735790297
he cant even argue it, he just further proves the case. lol

>>735790749
If John McCain wanted to appear to have integrity he missed his shot by throwing all underhand soft balls during the hearings.

>>735790493
id like to remind u central and eastern europe isnt flooded by refugees and terrorists, due to lower economical status, not due to strict "no muslims" laws

>>735790831
Not if you filmed it, but then I'd ask as to why you were allowed to film the process but not everyone else.

>>735790776
Okay. Keep in mind that things that make sense aren't necessarily true, things that don't make sense aren't necessarily false, and our interpretation / recounting of personal experiences are colored by our beliefs.

>>735790828
Don't forget he killed the entire planet then repopulated it with a single old man and an ark full of 12.9 billion mammals/insects/birds/reptiles/amphibians/arachnids. Yup, totally legit.

>>735790796
i was generalizing, u stupid fuckin bitch

>>735790845
Again, you can't even follow up your own arguments by proof, yet you expect me to do YOUR reaserch?

>>735790962
single, old man being over 100 years old, his daughters, wife and i guess his son

>>735790900
this will change soon due to the fucking EU

>>735790820
>>735790820
>Because there's this thing called the scientific method to filter out the crazy ideas.
theyre only crazy until proven correct.
whose to say a religion cant be proven correct? its a longshot sure. but still possible i believe.
>Because religion doesn't have anything like the scientific method.
i guess not.
>You're free to
hey thanks
>If the worm has no method to determine that light exists, then the worm is not justified in believing that light exists.
i guess not. but my point is that light does indeed exist even though no proof could be given to this worm.
>Believing something without proof is ridiculous in my opinion.
some things will never be proven. how does that make you feel? unless u actually do think one day a theory of everything will emerge.
in that case what would you do if it was an underwhelming truth you where not satisfied with? would you accept it?

>>735790994
You haven't followed up any of your arguments with proof, why should I? After a certain point in time, actually treating an argument seriously is pointless. This experiment reached that point decades ago.

>>735783767
Freedom from government censorship.
Not freedom from criticism or ridicule.

>>735791092
>You haven't followed up any of your arguments with proof, why should I?
Because I did follow it up with proof?
Again? http://www.conservapedia.com/Soul#cite_note-1

>>735790937
yes im aware.
but when you carry the belief that everything outside the self doesnt actually exist, then the only thing that can be trusted is the self.

>>735789521
Because god is ment to be all knowing. If some things are wrong why would we believe any of it?

>>735791112
that's a retarded definition

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>>735783776
>>>/tumblr/

>>735791077
>theyre only crazy until proven correct.
Which doesn't always happen.
>whose to say a religion cant be proven correct?
Some religions might be.
>my point is that light does indeed exist even though no proof could be given to this worm.
Sure. That doesn't mean that [insert whatever here] exists.
>how does that make you feel?
That's life.
>in that case what would you do if it was an underwhelming truth you where not satisfied with?
It would have to be underwhelming indeed for me to not be satisfied with it. I do not require any sort of meaning, afterlife, or creator to be satisfied.
> would you accept it?
I should think so, yes.

>>735791157
Again, conservapedia isn't scientific literature.

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"God is dead! And no one cares!

If there is a hell I'll see you there!"

-Nine Inch Nails

>>735789831
No attempts have been made to follow up because it's ridiculous. So souls have weight now?

>>735791173
If you believe that everything outside the self doesn't actually exist, what do you believe you are talking to right now?

Not getting everything you want /= discrimination

>>735787928
fewer niggers too

>>735783245
Yes. Around the world Christians are the most discriminated against religious group.
SJWs are trying to make discussing Christian beliefs a crime./.

>>735791301
it has a source dumbfuck

>>735791310
>No attempts have been made to follow up
>>735790279

"What if there is no Good would you think the fucking same?

Wasting your life in a leap of blind Faith"

-Slayer

>>735791412
A source which isn't scientific. Please try to keep up.

Fuck no those faggots aren't being discriminated against. There are 3 churches within 200 yards of my house. My county is a dry county. My fellow drinkers and I not being able to buy beer at a bar because of these fucking zealots, is discrimination.

>>735791487
>everything I don't agree with is "not scientific"
you try to keep up

>>735791515
What exactly does a bar sell if it can't sell beer? Nachos and cola?

>>735790698
Worms have light sensors.
And fish have eyes which can tell the difference between daylight and moonlight.
Thanks for one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen.

>>735791545
>declaring something to be science makes it science
I'm keeping up fine.

>>735791567
Well obviously we have no bars shit dick

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"Saved!
You're such a slave!"

-Slipknot

>>735791616
Then why bother talking about bars? Why not just say "can't buy beer"?

>>735791263
that -is- the definition you autistic cuck.

>>735791434
Why would the mainly conservative Christian give try to stop research on proving the bible true? That makes no sense.
You're also showing your stupidity thinking the US is the world. Plenty of other countries govt are based on religion. Why would they also stop people trying to prove the bible?

>>735783245
The only people that aren't being discriminated against are black people and women. They're trending now.

>>735791868
>Why would they also stop people trying to prove the bible?
United nations

>>735791335
well let me rephrase what i said.

i dont believe anything outside the self can be proven to exist. obviously you are a human and you exist in your own mind. but i cant prove that. just like you cant prove that i exist.

>>735791606
It is science you retard

>>735791592
>Worms have light sensors.
yea some do. but it was an example for the sake of my argument.
not all worms can sense light.

>And fish have eyes which can tell the difference between daylight and moonlight.
and when i used my fish example it wasnt about light. it was about the fish not knowing the existence of other planets, which obviously exist.

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>atheists will defend this

>>735791997
People like you like to claim the United Nations have no power, but also that they rule the world.
Fact is United Nations are completely dependent on its member nations. If they don't vote for something it doesn't happen.
Secondly the US has veto powers. And regularly, even if not officially vetoed, ignored UN mandates.
But yes I'm sure your conservative Christian govt would ban studies on the bible.
Nice try.

>>735792200
>Fact is United Nations are completely dependent on its member nations. If they don't vote for something it doesn't happen.
Every dictatorship pretends to be democratic, ever noticed how communists call themselves "people's party"?

>>735792029
Are you certain of what "you" are even? What if you are a constantly shifting collection of other minds, only existing one instant at a time?

>>735792093
It isn't science you double nigger.

>>735788607
This guy is pathetic. Claims to know everything and yet won't shut up long enough to hear anything.

>>735792117
Your examples are rubbish.
A worm really only needs to see light to sense threats. That is its whole need for light.
And similarly fish need it for threats and to synchronise breeding. And that's it.

What does that have to do with anything?

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>>735783776
Haha fuck white people am I right guys haha?
>>735783245
Christians are most certainly discriminated against. The only reason the left picks on them is because they're cowards and can get away with it. It's not within their nature to decapitate people, throw stones and riot just because their prophet was denounced or insulted. The left in general are the most deplorable of people to be honest.

>>735792166
>answers in genesis
ayy lmao

>>735792336
>What does that have to do with anything?
they where examples i used to show that something can exist beyond our senses.

>>735792265
A name means nothing. I can call myself god but I'm clearly not. It's 100% fact the UN is run by voting (ignoring veto). Who do you think will stop the US if they ignore the UN?
And as pointed out it's clearly documented the US has ignored UN mandates numerous times.

>>735792345
rapist

Christians are not discriminated against, at least not in the western hemisphere.
A few Kopt Christians are oppressed, and its pretty rare still.

Most here are American Christians.
So here goes:
-USA never had a non-Christian president.
-Christian beliefs are taught in public schools
In the 60s and 70 they added "In God We Trust" on the dollar bills
And "one nation, under god" in the pledge of allegiance.

Christians are not oppressed.
They should be oppressed more.

Churches should pay taxes.
Those who make millions, like tv preachers should be heavily taxed.
Scam faggots are part of the problem when it comes to poverty in the US.

Religion is cancer.
Christianity is one of the tumors.
Christianity, believe in the Holy Cucking of Mary, and the birth of Christ.

An hero yourselves, christcucks

>>735792422
But you were wrong because they can sense light. Making your point meaningless.
Humouring you though do you really compare yourself with a worm or fish? Clearly humans are much more intelligent. Well most of us, I'm starting to worry about you.

>>735792471
>It's 100% fact the UN is run by voting (ignoring veto).
Prove it then, I'll wait

>>735783245
no. religion is dying, Christianity is being ridiculed more often because people are waking up to how backwards and ridiculous their beliefs are. moving forward

>>735792280
>Are you certain of what "you" are even?
actually, i dont think i do know what "i" am. but its all i know. and i hate sitting on the fence about things so i come to certain conclusions based on my own life experiences. whether or not they are right or wrong doesnt really matter in the end. but the satisfaction of having an "answer" definitely matters to me while im alive.


>What if you are a constantly shifting collection of other minds, only existing one instant at a time?
the would be interesting. i do think when we die, we enter a universal collective consciousness (this is the space where we dream) except without a live body to be tethered to, we simply join this universal consciousness freeing ourselves of the "self" and becoming one with everything. and sometimes, a small chunk of this consciousness will be ripped apart and thrust into the world of the living as a baby.

it all sounds like hippie mumbo jumbo i know, so i thank you for not devolving into the typical "im right, youre wrong" mentality while flinging retarded insults

>>735792679
Google the UN. Literally every vote is in the archive.
As I said even if it wasn't who will stop the US doing what they want?

>>735792749
>Google the UN.
yeah because the votes THEY PUBLISH must be true!

>>735783245

No, they aren't.

They are finally having to come to terms with the fact that not everyone wants to live by their asinine religious rules, though. And I say that as a Christian. Who the fuck is anyone to make someone else live according to their values?

>>735792785
Ignoring the point of even if it's false who can stop the US doing what they want?

>>735792611
>Humouring you though do you really compare yourself with a worm or fish?
no, again they where simplified examples.
if you want something on a more human level, take a look at the light spectrum. we only see a small fraction of it, yet we know how huge the spectrum really is. of course we have tools now that can sense these ultra and infra level lights. but there was a point where we did not know anything about this, yet these things that lay beyond our senses exist.

again, my point is that things exist without us being able to sense them.

>>735792844
Again your point is rubbish.
Maybe there is a god. I'll 100% agree we can't disprove that.
But we scientifically disprove many important parts of the bible. Which makes it very very hard to believe any of it.

>>735792836
I hope that after I answer this you will at least attempt to answer both of my rebuttles.
The US has a large military, true, but it is constanty being weakened because we have to do other's jobs and burdens. Our armies have fight ISIS, our armies have to keep the middle east peaceful, our armies have to support isralel ect. All of that is making our actual military, as in the one ready for deployment, weak and it could easly be taken down by EU alone, not to mention China.

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>>735793000
TRIPS HAVE SPOKEN

>>735792973
its not rubbish though.

do you deny that things exist beyond our senses? things that have not yet been discovered? things that havnt even been predicted to exist yet? things beyond the grasp of human minds? do you really believe that humans can understand the cosmos?

were only fish in the ocean.
>But we scientifically disprove many important parts of the bible. Which makes it very very hard to believe any of it.
yes its very hard to believe. especially when there are all kinds of versions of the bible. and all kinds of churches interpreting the bible in their own way. i agree that it cant be trusted. which is why i do not associate with organized religion. but i still believe in a god. i still believe in an afterlife. you dont have to be religious to believe in these things

When your ideological expression comes in the form of uplifting your local community (volunteering, donations to good-will organizations, taking an active role in local government), I will give a fuck whether or not you seem discriminated against.

Do your civic duty and set out to make the world a better place by actually uplifting people rather than trying to force everyone to subscribe to your particular world view.

This applies to:
>Religious groups
>Militant atheists
>Political groups across the whole 85 dimensional spectrum
>Anarchists (wanting the right to self govern doesn't obligate you to be a piece of shit)

I welcome criticism to this notion, both constructive and Shitposting.

>>735793000
You clearly know nothing about your military or military strategy in general.
For starters those deployed outside the US only gives the US an advantage in a serious war.
Let's take China as the most serious threat. If China attacked the US all those deployments mean many targets china has to simultaneously hit, which they can't, which leaves many places the US can attack china from.
China also has a tiny navy in comparison to overall size. They would be lucky to get to Hawaii before being destroyed.
As for the EU, a large number have a Christian/catholic majority and are reliant on US aid/protection. No way they would attack the US.
Even if using your crazy logic even though they all have completely different ideals they all managed to band together against the US they would still have little chance of making it to the US mainland based on their current naval capabilities.

>>735792844
We've built machines to sense them though and so by proxy can actually sense them.
The only way you can make the notion of us being unable perceive god, equivalent to us being unable to see specific parts of the light spectrum, is to make a machine that can perceive god and prove his existence.

>>735791515
So you feel that this is a burden put on you by religious people; or even more comically, put upon you by religion itself; rather than laws passed by your local gov't.

You could move. There are also many, many Christian communities where you can buy alcohol 24/7. I live in one of them. That's why it's called the United States. There are lots of states and they're all different to accommodate different people and what they want; you get to choose where you live. Exciting!

>>735793215

> do you really believe that humans can understand the cosmos?

Yes, we can. Example: gravitational waves were predicted by Einstein and we just detected them to validate the claim recently.

We are constantly learning more and more about how the universe works. We already understand a ton.

I'm a different poster than the one you replied to.

>>735793370
>Let's take China as the most serious threat. If China attacked the US all those deployments mean many targets china has to simultaneously hit, which they can't, which leaves many places the US can attack china from.
These soldiers are rigged to give up as soon as the war starts, what's what "peace keeping force" means
>China also has a tiny navy in comparison to overall size. They would be lucky to get to Hawaii before being destroyed.
>what are military secrets
>As for the EU, a large number have a Christian/catholic majority and are reliant on US aid/protection. No way they would attack the US.
They would do so for political reasons, put a EU friendly globalist "president" in the place of the old one and they would enjoy even more aid from our tax dollars.

Also thanks for ignoring my first post

>>735793384

You make moving sound so simple when for many, it isn't.

>>735793554
>>735793370

You people are both idiots. Conventional armed conflict between two countries with nuclear weapons has never happened, and will never happen. Especially if you start talking about invading their home turf.

And for that matter nuclear war isn't ever happening either. The entire point of a nuclear arsenal is to exist and not really ever to be used.

>>735793447
>I'm a different poster than the one you replied to.
thanks for clarifying.

but i have to disagree with you.
i believe there will be things that we will never understand, simply because our brains can not handle such thoughts.

for example while on psychedelic drugs, we see shapes we can not describe and colors that do not exist. its a terrible example but it still highlights the fact that some things are beyond human conception.

it like we as humans, are little cells in the cosmos oblivious to the larger body we make up.

>>735793215
Of course it's possible. But there is absolutely no proof of it.
I watched a creepy pasta on YouTube the other day that is just as likely.
The general idea was god was a monster. A guy died who had never believed in god. When he got to heaven he was turned into an angel, by physically cutting his back open while conscience and stitching wings on his back. As an angel his job was to cut up believers (again while conscience) to feed "god". With the justification being the believers had already served god so they were lunch but the unbelievers still had to serve him as angels providing him food.

Crazy I know. But that is just as likely as any religious text.

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>>735793370
>europe
>christian
Have you seen these european "christians"? They're just globalist puppets, teaching faggotry and other deviances

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>>735793370
>a large number have a Christian/catholic majority

>>735793762
>Crazy I know. But that is just as likely as any religious text.
im not arguing to validate any religious texts and you keeping bringing it up.
you know my point.
so what is yours?

>>735793554
How are they rigged to give up? Even if they are peacekeepers which they aren't. That would change the second the US was attacked.

>>735793841
yes because christianity is dependant on the united states.

>>735793895
They are literally surrounded by foreign troops, both from the country they are in and by UN "peacekeeping" forces.

>>735793872
That I believe in facts. And so far the facts show god doesn't exist.
So basing your life on a god is beyond retarded.
I'm not referring to you, just religious people in general.

>>735794083
No they aren't. Not even remotely.
And again even if they were peacekeeping forces have no chance at stopping the US from reacting to an invasion of its soil.

>>735794108
i suppose we'll have to agree to disagree then.
we wont be changing each others mind today.

>>735793748

Ultimately we are of little significance if we do not discover some form of doable travel between stars. However, we can learn everything the universe has to offer us. Think of how far we have come in 100 years. In 200 years. Think of how far we can go intellectually in 200 more. It is staggering the amount of information we have learned and can still learn.

Our brains are still primitive but those who are less so are the ones who study the sciences anyway.

As for drugs I have never experienced the effects and have no knowledge of the matter so I will say nothing about it.

>>735794211
Clearly you aren't trying to understand
US forces abroad (in military bases) are surrounded by "peacekeeping" UN forces and the forces of whatever nation they're in, witch is under the boot of the UN. Those troops are as good as dead when the war hits.
Troops in the US itself will be able to fight, but there simply isn't enough of them to win a potential conflict.

>>735794260
in the end anon, i dont think there will be a final answer. or a theory of everything.
we are all hell bent on finding answers when the real challenge is finding the right questions.

even if we do manage to have interstellar travel we will remain of little significance to the cosmos.

>>735794365
Clearly you don't understand. Where are US troops surrounded by peacekeepers? And in which countries are they in that would care what the UN says? The main ones are Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria none of which have the capability or give a fuck.

The devil has started his plan to turn people away from God long ago that's why there is coruption in churches and with the pope. The sad part is that it's working and people don't want to see the proof thats right in front of them that God is real.

>>735794365
You're also forgetting they have to get the US. None of which have the capability besides Russia.

>>735794633
Show me this proof and I will commit myself to god.

>>735794700
everything exists.

does nobody ever look around and simply get amazed by reality?
the sense of being. the feeling of existing.

its incredible.
science tries hard to explain, religion tries hard to explain.

but there are no real answers.

>>735794495

The problem, anon, is that I've provided evidence and examples showing our tremendous progress already and making an educated projection about the future, and you have offered nothing but doubt and baseless conjecture.

>>735794758
So the spaghetti monster exists?

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>>735794533
These are us military bases
All of these full of soldiers that will be wasted as soon as the revolution starts

>>735788196
Have you ever ears of something called autocontrol? For hell's sake,if a woman had sex when she was in her fertile days, she's responsible for what comes next. She has no right to kill a human just because she was stupid or too drunk

>>735794700
There was more then 100 prophecies about Jesus that have come true even the ones that were made way before he was born. Noah's Ark has been found and there is a layer around the earth that scientist can't explain or they can and they don't want people to know that it was caused by water. There are signs that prove exodist is real. The mark of the beast is real and some companies are using it and also stupid dog owners put it in their dogs. It won't be long until they try and force that on everybody.

>>735788211
This

>>735794906
Ummm no. Maybe a few in Europe if your crazy theory is true.
Most will be fine.

>>735794946
What if she got raped?

>>735795048
again , there are surrounded and outnumbered by UN forces

>>735794978
Wow, you are really stupid. For every one shred of "evidence" you have there are a thousand facts that prove it false. Noah and the ark is a literal impossibly.

>>735794843
youre asking me to provide examples when i have done so for the entirety of the thread.
maybe if id's where still around you could go back and see all my points. but theyre not, and im not down to go a link all of my shit so you can read out of context.

i suppose this marks the end of our conversation.

>>735794946
Why is it just the women and not the man too?
Ignoring the sjw bullshit what if she can't look after it? Then the govt pays for it. Possibly for 18 years.

>>735795122

Your. Points. Aren't. Based. On. Objective. Reality. That's. Probably. Why. You. Are. So. Needy. For. Religion. Please. Get. Help.

>>735794978
Lol the only prophecies that are real are generic bullshit a retsrd could predict.
Let's choose one at random. Noah's ark. You really think a 100+ year old man and his family were all that was left of humanity? And he miraculously got 2 of every animal from around the earth in a boat? So animals from the US to Australia including things like fish and whales? That couldn't be done today let alone 2000 years ago.
And then his inbred family repopulated the earth?

>>735788413
For what I know there's a special treatment for rape victims. I mean, when a woman is raped, when she goes to the hospital she's given a treatment that will function like a pill of the day after.

What are you going to do when your friends and loved ones disappear right in front of you. Will you remember that I told you so and believe that Jesus has took them to heaven. Or will you believe and non believer that Smells Like Hell Fire saying he did it. Will you follow the Antichrist or will you ask for forgiveness from Jesus and be saved?

>>735795089
They aren't outnumbered. Check for yourself moron.

>>735783245
lol god not dead hahahaha god not real

>>735795357
im not religious.
this is why we need id's

if you knew my entire post history, youd see my thoughts on what reality is. everything is ultimately subjective. we believe what we want to. and when everyone else believes it, we say its objective.

okay. im done speaking with you anon. have a good one.

>>735795116
Your mind is closed off to the truth

>>735795370

He probably forgot that Adam and Eve met a bunch of other random people after they left the garden.

Either that or Cain and Abel had gay babbies before their murder orgy and that opens up a whole other can of worms.

>>735795424
DISAPPOINTED!

>>735795370
All the continents were together once and he didn't have to collect the animals they just came to him. It's been proven that there is a lot of water underneath us still and fish and whales didn't have to get on the boat they can swim. Inbreeding isn't as bad as you think.

>>735795647
Two questions, how old do you think the planet is and how much time would you assert the bible took place in?

>>735795416
That's what UN tells us

>>735789216
How the fuck can some get pregnant by accident? I don't know any woman that doesn't know when she's fertile, condoms can rip but it exist the day after pill

They have found human tracks with Dinosaur tracks that were dated the same time period Together. Did you hear about that probably not. Did you hear that there is a the rest are fossil that has been dated thousands of years not millions of years old probably not. Or what about all the Giants that have been discovered around the world probably not. The truth is somebody is hiding stuff from us so we can't see the real picture.

>>735795647
They weren't together that recently.
Fish especially need specific water quality and PH. If the world was flooded that all would of drastically changed.
And no random inbreeding isn't the end of the world. But if the whole world was based on noah and his family inbreeding for generations that would be very bad.

>>735795647

> all the continents were together
> 5000 years ago

When the fuck do you think the ark happened in chronology?

> Inbreeding isn't as bad as you think.

Maybe you don't get it. A population of what 10 humans isn't genetically viable long term.

> water underneath us

It's called a goddamn aquifer and they've been there for a lot fucking longer than that.

Also the flood is based on flood myths from earlier cultures and they likely had their origination from natural events you can read about. Specifically the Hebrews probably copied it from the Sumerians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_myth

But you know, lies! Devil! Fake news! Alternative facts!

>>735795921
The morning after pill could technically be considered abortion as well.
If life is at conception as the christfags claim, eating a pill to nullify that conception is still taking a life.

>>735795772
In the thousands not the Millions

>>735783245
Sure, eeryone gets discriminated against by someone at some point. Not a big deal.

Now if you mean are they being wrongly discriminated against you have to first answer another question. When is it inappropriate to use a factor about someone to decide upon a course of action with a person?

For example, is it proper to use their actions or stated position in deciding how to act with a person?
If it is proper then it can't be wrong to discriminate against a person who identifies as Christian since it is a position they have taken.

The same as discriminating against a nazi, communist, democrat, republican, white supremist, black panther, etc...

>>735795869
OK I give up. There is no arguing with someone who makes his own facts. Keep that tinfoil hat tight.

>>735796033
And why would they hide stuff? What Benefit is there for a worldwide conspiracy?

>>735796088
Our continents would be whizzing around beneath us if that were true.
It took millions of years for the continents to separate from each other. If it only took thousands, the moving of our continents would be visible with the naked eye.

>>735795921
Easily. It happens 100's of times a day.
As for the morning after pill how is that different from abortion? You or some other religious idiot claimed once a baby is conceived its human.

>>735796045
God is mighty he can keep the water to where fish don't get hurt by it. Hes also the one that made are bodies so he has control over our cells.

>>735796293
>Deus ex machinae.
Also known as, I can't explain that so God.

>>735796293
If he is so mighty why not just magically save all the animals? Why do they need a boat?
And why not just make all the unbelievers drop dead? Why a messy flood? It makes no sense.
And if it's true why kill all the innocents around the world? Did babies deserve to die in a flood? Not a very nice god you have.

>>735796072
Carbon dating isn't as accurate as people think where you alive 5000 years ago to see that all the continents were together? Inbreeding wouldn't matter if God has control of it there cells. I'm not referring to aquifers the body of water I'm talking about is much much bigger.