Is Quentin Tarantino a genius or is he overrated ?

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>>735500418
Good but not even in the same ballpark as Kubrick or Scorsese.

>>735500418
Have you not watched any of his movies? He is definitely a genius when it comes to film.

He's half-autistic and managed to copy what he likes about his favorite movies with dialogue based on his favorite comedian's lingo and sustain that combo for 8 movies.

>>735500418
Yes.

>>735500418
He's ok. He's had a few good ideas but has never been able to rise above gratuitous violence and getting away with saying nigger. You want truly great? Go with Kubrick or Lynch

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>>735500596

Why not both?

>>735502258
Kubrick is genius.

Lynch is excellent but overhyped, his real talent is experimentation not execution.

Tarantino is excellent, but it's popular to hate him. He applys the same style to different genres, but has great execution.

Im a big fan of all three. Kubrick is the only one who really is gifted across the board, and should be considered genius.

>>735500596
This is true of most directors. Tarantino just talked about it openly.

>>735502973
Give me anything that Kubrick did that was as brilliant as the first season of twin peaks or Mulholland Dr. Not possible.

>>735503160
2001.

>>735503160
A Clockwork Orange

>>735500418
When he grows up he'll probably be great.

>>735503160
Dr. Strangelove

>>735500418
>>735503160
>>735503239
>>735503272

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGlTS8aMBxM&t=14s&list=LLB9nRWu8Gbz2TfSENpEmTOQ&index=3

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>>735503239
>>735503272

>>735503423
See
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>>735500418
Worthless

Lynch just makes Word Salad: The Movie over and over. I like him but he's no genius.

>>735503667
>word salad
You mean EXACTLY what Tarantino does? Ok

>>735500418
He's not a genius and he may be overrated, but he makes some pretty entertaining films.

>>735500418
his movies are stupid and violent, the dialog affects sophistication but is really just drivel.
but since americans are much the same its lauded as genius. simply put an orang-utan in a world of baboons seems genius to the red assed majority but is still a big orange ape.

Can't he be both?

>>735503730
I don't think you know what word salad means. I like both directors but I don't consider either of them a genius.

Kill Bill was easily the greatest movie ever made.

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>>735504294
It's my favorite movie.

>>735500418
Genius

The world isn't binary

Yes he is a genius, but that doesn't mean he isn't also overrated

It's like the high school hot shot autists that watch cosmos too much and think they are smarter than Einstein and claim he isn't a genius

Yes Einstein's a genius, and yes he's overrated

He is both

>>735500418
He's a total prick but no one can deny that he's a genius when it comes to making movies.
Basically all of his movies have you on the edge of your seat the entire time. And considering how much of a stupid douchebag he sounds like in interviews, it's a mystery to me how he manages to make his movies look so goddamn artistic.
Making movies is in his blood.

>>735504504

What are you fucking talking about Einstein isn't overrated.

>>735504294
Nope. Not even a little bit. If you specifically want martial arts/swordplay go with 13 Assassins. Head and shoulders above kill bill

>>735500418
self-conscious faggot

>>735502414
Because "genius" should not be applied so cavalierly.

>>735500418
He panders to libtards, so that makes him a genius, I guess.

He's the Kevin Smith of action movies.

>>735503160
Eyes Wide Shut has actual layers of meaning. Twin Peaks and Mulholland Drive simply rely on opacity to imply depth of thought.

>>735505429
take a break

>>735502258

This may be unpopular, but I actually would put Cronenberg in this list. There are some average movies in his catalog, but overall he's solid.

>>735503412
That's what Fred said about Donny.

>>735504625
>no one can deny
Wow! Suspend disbelief much?

>>735500418
Overrated af

>>735505429
>panders to libtards
And yet he manages to be soooo fascist.
#OnlyInMurikkka

>>735505715
You can be a contrarian dick for the sake of feeling special also.

>>735500418
Overrated as fuck. The guy is a hack.

One of the best directors ever.
''Or

>>735503463
You're asking for any singular movie to compare to an entire season of works.

>>735505851
It's not contrarian to believe this guy is not a filmmaking genius. Just stop suspending your disbelief and you'll see why. He is simpleminded and noisy. Yuck!

>>735500418
Ad captandum vulgus.

>>735506046
>He is simpleminded and noisy. Yuck!
I said that myself, you retard.
He comes across like a total douchebag in interviews and not very smart.
But the quality of his movies in terms of dialogue, direction, visuals, etc... speaks for itself.
He is a genius when it comes to movies.

>>735506445
he's a clever monkey
nothing more

>>735503160
Paths to Glory
>the execution scene.
>invention of the suspenseful 'long-shot'.

>>735502973
Why do you consider kubrick a genius director? Can you give me some examples

>>735500418
A pony of few tricks. He becomes monotonous.

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>>735506445
>genius

>>735500418

neither, he's an interesting director that makes some interesting highly stylized movies.

Pulp Fiction was the only amazing movie he's ever made. His other movies are pretty good, but not genius.

>>735503160

bait

even david lynch would admit he's not even in the same league as kibrick. 2001 is a movie that plays like a symphony. Dr. Strangelove is the greatest satire of the last century.

if you like dreamlike surrealism with no solid narrative, sure lynch is the guy. But if you want groundbreaking films that progress movie making as an art form no one comes close to Kubrick.

>>735505550

eyes wide shit was good in the european version. the american edit made no sense.

>>735500418
The former

>>735507367

this

the most clear indication of how limited he is is the fact that he blew his load in kill bill 1, leaving part 2 completely lackluster, to the point of being unmemorable, and even unnecessary.

The climax of part 1 should have been the climax of part 2.

>>735500418

a person is not "a genuis" genuis is something that strikes are person, and may leave soon after. His work on pulp fiction was genius, nothing else he's done since has been.

>>735507565
Did you just read that out of some USC professors text book

>>735500550
>not even in the same ballpark as scorsese

Sccorsese, the guy who has literally dropped in quality over his career? The guy who made classics like casino and goodfellas but now spends his time pissing over new releases?

Theyre not even in the same ballpark because scorsese was just relegated to the fucking lower division

>>735507626

For someone that hasn't seen the eu version, what's the difference?

yes to both

>>735500418
he's good but not a genius, his shit relies on old unused cliche's

>>735500418
Came yo say he's fucking overrated and that his writing is shit. Interesting stories, usually.

>>735508366
lol, I'm not trying to be a dick, but "unused cliche" is an oxymoron.

>>735507787
it's a single movie split into 2 parts...

>>735500418
overrated as shit
reservoir dogs is decent - the rest is mediocre, with usually one or two good monologues/scenes per film (dead nigger storage, watch up my ass, etc...)

>>735508754
Is the full movie available before he cut it in two?

>>735500418

Good visuals, scene building, camerawork.

Shouldn't try to write stories. Bad stories. Pedantic dialogue. Always bleeds into prolixity with it. Very rarely charms, like Kevin Smith using a similar device.

>>735509486
I'd say rather the oposite... the best Tarantinomovie is, and will alway be, True Romance.

Note how that was scripted by QT but made before he had enough Hollywood clout to direct and produce his own movies.

>>735509486
Trump? Is that you lurking?

>>735510870
Ha ha gotteem

>>735500418
If you are asking this question you obviously know nothing of film.

>>735500418
Overrated, his dialogue is annoying. Never got the appeal.

>>735503272
>clockwork
adaptation but pretty well delivered. Not nearly as good as the book was, but that's rare.
>shining
see previous comment.

>>735508061
Bullshit, Scorsese made The Departed just 11 years ago and it's one of his best ever.

Shutter Island was great too, and that was just 7 years ago.

Wolf of Wallstreet was a generic, average movie I'll admit. But we can't hit a home run every time.

ITT:
a bunch of fools that don't realize art is subjective.

>>735511632
The Departed is Infernal Affair ripoff

>>735511682
Pleb who thinks art is subjective because he doesn't know any theory to back up his claim.