Just graduated High School... any tips?

>>735449888
Chekt. And it's all down hill from here. Buckle up faggot.

>>735449888
Get a job you little fucking freeloading shit

if you havent developed any social skills, go to college and get involved. it's your last chance before being doomed as a sperglord forever

if you have, start hustling

>>735449888
go to college, learn a trade skill.
avoid bullshit degrees like: Art, x Studies, journalism, english, etc.

>>735449888
The best years of your life are now over.

hit the gym and take care of yourself

also get the young pussy while you can

Get license; even if you have no skills being able to drive can get you entry level jobs. Take pre-requisites alongside classes in the summer at your college in case you want to get into more technical programs. If you have no direction don't go for generalized programs/major & minor; find a specialty as it's more useful.

>>735450463
That's what I had to do for three years to be able to afford tuition, books, without the need of student loans. about a week away from graduating with an associates in machining.

>gained degree
>no student loan debt to worry about
>feelsgoodman.jpg

>>735449888
Join the military. That's what I did. Not so bad

>>735449888
either go straight to college or get a job. if you take too long of a break from school its kinda hard to get back

>>735449888
Listen to me. Don't waste your time with women. Too many morons with no skills and an overabundance of testosterone think their self-worth comes from how many women they fuck. Ignore this. Don't waste your time chasing women. Focus on maximizing your worth and value. If you focus on your own success you will be amazed at how many things fall into place for you.

Go to trade school. I'm a civil engineer and some plumbers and electricians earn more than me

>>735449888
spend the night in a dumpster... soak it in... this is life now.

this whole thread is pretty accurate. if you don't have a job, get one and start savin' that money because college is almost always expensive. great waste of money though

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>>735449888
Stay away from niggers.

>>735451067
This old fag speaks the truth, but if you can, fuck a few girls, just don't invest all your time on them. And like the majority, learn a trade/skill, and avoid Graphic Design AT ALL COSTS. You will never find a job.

>>735449888
Welcome to hell. Ignore all the liberal bullshit. If you're really smart, go to college and get a good ass degree that'll earn you $100k a year. You'll be sick of that job in only 10 years, but you'll have the money to change careers! If you're not smart, try to get hired in to a trade union. The pay is good and they sorta give a shit about the employees they represent. Meth sex is best sex, and don't do drugs, mkay

Get ready for a life of nothing Peter pecker

If you can, go into a program you can be proud of and not easiness of access. Sure you can get into an easy program and transfer, but someone mentioned civil engineering earlier. The only people I know in civil engineering hate their lives that work at McDonalds on the side or are VERY autistic. No offense to people in that program as they perhaps get joy from it, but choose a field that gives you purpose or makes you happy.

>>735449888
Anhero now. It's all crap from here.

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Get granny some new teeth

>>735451067
>>735451617
Yes. I don't mean never have sex and live as a hermit. I just mean don't spend your time chasing women. Once you're successful (and that doesn't inherently mean fabulously wealthy. Define your own success and exceed in whatever you define that as) you will learn that you do not need to chase; other people will come to you.

Only do coke once. Not every day.

When you full on fall in love take a huge fucking step back. That shit will kick you in the dick!

Alcohol is your friend but don't abuse it. You can still have a career and be an alcoholic if you play your cards right.

If a woman pulls out on you with a child in the passenger seat, don't threaten to fuck them both. That shit will butterfly effect.

The best advice I wish I'd gotten: open a Roth IRA (Individual Retirement Account). You do this at you bank/credit union, it takes about 10 minutes. You can also do it online, but it if you don't know anything about them, like was my case, it is nice to be able to ask questions. Get that interest compounding with a relatively high interest rate and tax-savvy account as early as possible. Everyone who reads this who hasn't opened such an account, make sure to do this as soon as you possibly can.

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>>735452360
done that two years ago, doubled money since then.

>>735452360
>>735452630
>Assuming the dollar will still hold any value by the time you're old enough to collect from your IRA

Top fucking kek

DO NOT go to University. Too many shit degrees while decent degrees are oversaturated with too many students (too much competition)

DO NOT chase after women. Fuck em for now, once you have a good job they'll be coming to you.

DO NOT go into debt, don't buy useless shit unless you have a steady job. Save up as much cash as possible, set up your own emergency fund.

>>735449888
I'm with you there bud, i feel like it's just gone go downhill from here but who knows, maybe i'll live off thee governments tit or kill myself before i even turn 20

>>735453241
It's cool if you want to be a fucking loser your whole life but I have ambitions, thanks.

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>>735449888
Aim for a career that requires you to empathise with people - the robots are going to do the rest

"Don a good pair of pair of boots and hit the road; for the road is my calling, and not all who wander are lost"

-Anonymous

>>735451147

This

University was the biggest fucking regret, wish I did trade school and opened my own business

>>735449888
Don't go to college unless you either have wealthy parents or know for sure you can get a degree that'll secure a high paying job for debt payments later on. 9/10 degrees these days will just land you a job as a high-level fry cook.

BE A MAN AND JOIN THE MILITARY

>>735452717
Imagine waiting your whole life for that money, then dying before getting a chance to even use it.

>>735453590
>>735453580
This only applies to shit colleges. I went to a top 10 university and took an extremely common major (Economics) and I basically fell into a job making ~110k/yr as a 22 year old graduate

>>735449888
suck at life so we can all feel better about ourselves

>>735449888
Yeah OP.
Go to college for engineering/doctoral/mechanics/mathematics.

Or get a job in retail and move up in the rat race.
Eventually you'll learn that non of it matters and you'll learn to simply enjoy life and be happy for a job.

Or you'll actually start a business and make mils.
Jk.

>>735453752
>But still lurks around /b/ to gloat about his success. Sit down niger.

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>>735450392
checked

>>735449888
Don't go into debt... of any kind without coming up with a very strict and specific plan to get out of it as quickly as possible... but do your best to live within your means... no matter what you chose to do... debt has basically ruined my life... and I'm an intelligent educated individual.

>>735450733
>>735453654

that's for beta cucks that dropped out of high school who are wannabe alphafags
>hurr durr git paid to kill muslim
>murica
>become a pawn for some politician and a corporation to make money off you
>(obvious shitpost)

>>735450392
This. Never let yourself go and become a ham planet. That shit is bad.

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>>735449888

Congrats on finishing the easy part of life. Buck up kiddo!

>>735453752

You know, not everyone can get into the top 10 Universities, how much was your tuition?

>>735453752
Yeah and how much money did your parents help you pay tuition and pay off student loans without any worry?

>>735454063
AF is a decent gig, most of the people I worked with are /b/tards but not cringe level. Pay is the same no matter what job you get so you can get some easy job like services, hang out in the ac, work normal hours, and see the world.

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>>735453752

>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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>>735453848
I've been coming here since I was a teenager, and besides, I'll fully admit I love coming here to remind myself how good I have it compared to most people. It's a guilty pleasure.
>>735454155
I understand this. I was just clarifying that it isn't that college is inherently bunk, it's that shit colleges are the ones that aren't worth it.

>>735452717
could you explain what you mean by this?

>>735449888
Destroy the dominant paradigm. Even if everyone were paid "living wages," we are fucking up this planet, hence us.

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>>735454461

>>735449951
>>735450249
/thread

>>735454518
Trump is leading a kleptocracy that will damage the US economy, and that means the dollar.

>>735454569
I'll fight you faggot

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>>735454594
Some of us would to like to continue however, no matter how academic the discussion is from here forth.

>>735454461

The shit colleges are nothing more but money making schemes for degenerates and niggers while brainwashing them with liberal bullshit.
What are you going to do with a Gender Studies Degree from Evergreen College?

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>>735454461
Get an associates at your local community college, changed my life. Pic related, it is my wallet.

>>735454871

>file name

>>735449888

Hope you learned how to get high.

>>735454518
Yes. I mean that there is an economic crash coming that will destroy the dollar's place as the world's reserve currency, resulting in a permanent loss of American economic power that we will never see again. It will make 2008 look like a hiccup. You should not be saving your dollars with the expectation that those dollars will have anywhere near an equivalent worth by the time you are ready to retire. I can explain the mechanisms causing this if you are interested, but it's potentially boring economics that I won't offer unsolicited

>>735454828
>durr muh buzzwords

did you get friendzoned by a girl who ended up fucking a nigger, anon?

>>735454937
>Ron Paul will suck my cock if I post stuff like this

kek

>>735453752

what school?

>>735454828
I heard that you can get a masters by taking a course on The Beatles.

>>735454994

Found the shit college nigger

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>>735449888
i glanced at ppl mentioning college, do not go to college for any thing that does not require a degree, if youre not able to pay your way through and without going into debt the navy and air force are always there to give you great life skills and put you through college for free. (you dont need to go into combat, get a desk job do 4 years and bam, youre ahead of your class mates) dont fall for the college meme onless you have an iq over 120 (opinion). I think engineering is over saturated at the moment, but there cannot be an excess of young people with a degree in computer sci. don't do drugs and work out regularly. dont be degen and learn from other ppls mistakes. take yourself out of your comfort zone and dont be a cunt, remove toxic friends from youre life. boom

>>735455106
Evergreen is a respected learning institution. Sorry, not everyone had pragmatism beaten into them like your Republican dad did to you, faggot.

>>735454828
Sorry you went to a shit college that wasn't worth the investment. I didn't.

>>735455316
anon didn't go to school
he learned everything here

>>735455019
>I don't understand how economics works so I'm just going to make a joke and hope I look cool

Hope you don't have any debt when it hits

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>>735454810
>academic

Trips for tips negroe

>>735454461
What's your job

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>>735454708

Sorry I don't have a faggot for you to fight. Learn grammar, top ten college.

>>735455438
You're a Paultard
busted
you probably have a speech about getting rid of the Fed too, don't you?

>>735455585
That was someone else, but I bet you felt really good about yourself for a moment there.

>>735451067
This fag gets it.

>>735455594
Can you explain to me what will happen when interest rate rises on debt, since you seem not to be concerned?

>>735455452
Ah well I attended Julliard.

>>735450392
This. Mandatory exercise was the only thing that saved me growing up, now I have countless problems that could've been avoided just by exercise and diet

>>735455786
We aren't going to go back on the gold standard you fucking faggot
ever
money is paperless now
they're actually "credits"

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>>735455699
(You)

>nice play off.

>>735455888
That isn't what I asked. Stop equating my policies with Ron Paul when I have never once expressed those policies. I know it's easier for you to pretend I made a certain argument that you're used to, but I haven't.

Now let's focus and try this again. What happens to debt when interest rates rise on the principal?

>>735455914
im not who youre talking buddy.

>>735455914
You really are a retard though

>>735455914
Still wasn't me. The (You) thing only works if you actually quote all the posts involved, but I'm assuming you didn't because you realized you were wrong and didn't want to make it easier for me to confirm that.

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>tfw parents are wealthy so they could easily pay for an expensive 4 year Uni + all living expenses.
>tfw 108 IQ brainlet that barely managed to pass HS.
>tfw got the worst SAT scores in the whole school most likely.
>tfw didn't even bother applying for schools.
>tfw Khv incel and no friends at all.
>tfw just going to stay a rich NEET my whole life.

Life sucks being a brainlet. The only thing I could do is get a minimum wage job but I have enough money and I couldn't handle a job.

>>735455997
You don't have to. Your economic paranoia is straight out of the Paultard Playbook.

>What happens to debt when interest rates rise on the principal?

Doesn't matter. We have a nearly 20 trillion dollar GDP that should be able to absorb that. Just raise taxes on the wealthiest individuals and businesses to cover it.

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>>735456003
>>735456013
>>735456098

Found the newbies! Welcome to /b/

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>>735456105
IQ of 108 is half a standard deviation above average. You're smarter than 70% of the rest of us.

>>735456439
I voted for Hillary Clinton.
Mad?

>>735456105
>but I have enough money
do you mean your parents money when you say this?

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>>735456439

>>735456145
1) The US recently created a new formula to recalculate the way it determines GDP. Do you know why it did this? To inflate the numbers and make the economy seem stronger than it is. But I bet you didn't even know that.

2) Let me answer the question since you still haven't managed to; when interest rates rise the debt will skyrocket. Interest rates have been kept artificially low for years in an effort to forestall the market crunch that is inevitably coming. A 1% rise on debt services (since I know you don't know what that means: it's the money you pay on interest without actually reducing your loan) will result in trillions of dollars in increased debt. Can you please explain to me how taxes will cover a trillions of dollar increase on debt?

3) The GDP, even without the recalculations, isn't healthy. The GDP is almost entirely propped by consumer debt and consumption spending. The reason this is bad is because it is spending without any real increase in productivity or investment spending. Once the credit begins to dry up, the entire system goes bunk. It is smoke and mirrors.

>>735456145
You're a fucking retard.,

>>735456663
**1% rise on interest rates will lead to trillions of dollars in increased debt services. Sorry, I was being sloppy

>>735456663
We're still not going to go back on to the gold standard.

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>>735456505

Still wasn't you.

>>735456676

>>735456541

>>735456748
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>>735456541

>>735456545
I only have around 70k in savings. My parents are millionaires, though. 70k isn't too bad for a 18 year old brainlet NEET. I could last a good bit on my own but not forever.

>>735456663
>>735456731
These are all great points but he's so brainwashed to think the economy is healthy that he can't even understand that you never said anything about the gold standard. It's like a bot that can't figure out what to do once the script has changed

>>735456810
haha faggot is still so mad

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>>735456807

>>735456865
You're a Paultard. No respected economist complains about government debt.

>>735456516
I still feel like an idiot. I'm not even on a middleschool math level. I also have many learning problems so that probably doesn't help too much

>>735449888
Easy. Get a certification.
Eta-i.org

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>>735456896

Do you have any idea what so mad looks like? Holy shit dude, at least lose your virginity.

>>735456910
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Don't go to school - spam areas that hire in the field you want and go from there.

Spent 100K on an animation degree and all my coworkers started out of high school and are way cooler than me without as much debt.

>>735456943
Can you explain to me any mechanism why? Or do you just blindly regurgitate what people tell you to think?

>>735456979
that was the dumbest shoop ever
tell me you didn't do that while eating hot dogs and cheetos alone on your birthday anon

>>735454937
What should I do instead? What degree will keep food in my stomach if that crash happens.

>>735456943
It's really sad that you've failed to make a single cogent point

>>735454937
I'd rather hear your proposed solution -- BTC? Gold? Real estate?

>>735457067
The economy would boom if we had a high tax rate on the businesses that make the most money.

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>>735456986

>>735457103
What "point" are you making?

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>>735457143
Can you explain to me how that would work?

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>>735457069

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>>735457218

You're

Check em lads

>>735456949
learn basic web development or something. No math required, just copy and paste from stackoverflow. I'm sure you'd be a genius among front end fags anyway. Easy to learn, no degree required: portfolio speaks for itself, and a decent job market.

>>735455580
VP of cock gobbling.

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>>735457096
Buy a year's supply of Big Macs and freeze them. You can survive off eating one a day.

>>735457103
I did. I said you're a faggot if you think we're going back on the gold standard. Because that's where you're headed with this.

>>735453315
rekt kys

>>735457324
>You're
a fag

>>735457441
I'm not the guy who you were arguing with, BTW. I'm just pointing out that the only thing you've said is that the gold standard is silly while ignoring every point the other guy has made (none of which even mentioned the gold standard) and offering literally nothing to support your own point of view.
He seems convincing. You seem like you never developed an opinion beyond what you were told to think

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>>735457516

>>735457564
He definitely voted for Ron Paul. If he was old enough to vote.

>you never developed an opinion beyond what you were told to think

If I'm supposed to think a bunch of paranoid right wing economic nonsense, I'm glad I'm a hivemind. :^)

>>735457096

Short the dollar. Invest in emerging markets and established foreign markets that do not rely on US consumers, and inflation hedges like agricultural real estate (not residential, which is in another bubble)

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>>735457691
you have to be fucking kidding me -- invest in agricultural real estate?
>moron

>>735457674
You have contributed literally nothing to this discussion. You have been repeatedly asked to clarify your positions and have failed to offer even a single point beyond "hurr during no gold standard hurr during paultard" none of which were even mentioned before you brought them up. Please stop embarrassing yourself until you can come up with something relevant to say

>>735457838
>agricultural real estate
growing weed is lucrative

>>735457691
Thank you. That is helpful.
What you mean is that I should get my money in places that aren't the US, right? Can I do that while living here? Or is it time to start learning another language?

>>735457838
Can you explain to me why that's dumb instead of just saying it's dumb?

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>>735457836

You're

>>735457875
My position, genius, is obviously that I prefer the status quo without some faggot going in there and tinkering with it. Unless they are proposing to raise taxes on the rich. Then that kind of economic intervention is OK.

>>735457969
>You're
gay af

>>735458001
Can you explain how taxing the rich incentivizes healthy economic growth?

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>>735457954
what kind of substantial appreciation do you expect from agriculture? when the dollar turns to shit, you think you're going to make millions when farms now barely get by (and have the benefit of MASSIVE government subsidies that will obviously dry up when the economy goes to shit).

how about -- you explain why it WOULD work?

Stay away from drugs.
Stay away from women who have no goals/dreams. Theyll drag you down too.

I make around 80k a year with no college education. And i know people who bring in over 300k a year who dropped out of high school. So you can certainly make good money without it.
But its advisable to have it so you have the job security.

>>735458097
It's been proven that when we have a high tax rate on the rich, this economy booms. Starting in the 1970s. the super-rich began using their influence to dismantle the tax structure, and the US has experienced an overall economic downturn since. Now we have staggering economic inequality in this country with little growth or incentives for labor. And you fucking know it.

>>735458163
>And i know people who bring in over 300k a year who dropped out of high school.

Doing what? Something soulless and stupid?

>>735457838
Agricultural real estate has intrinsic value and suffers from less fluctuation in real estate markets, and therefore increases in value in situations where money becomes worth less.

>>735457949
Yes, but this isn't something that's going to happen in the next year. If you're looking for a career, focus on markets that do not rely on US consumers (whose purchasing power will be drastically reduced, and therefore your job security)

>>735457969
That's the same picture liberals post when I try to tell them that climate change is naturally occurring and not caused by man. What does an advertisement for a bait store have to do with the discussion?

>>735458280
Straight commission sales. Same as what i do.

>>735458154
Not agriculture. Agricultural real estate. You're showing how little you know. Agricultural real estate is a well-established inflation hedge due to its intrinsic value (people will always need to eat). For example, during the 2008 crash, the value of agricultural real estate rose as much as 600% in some markets, despite plummeting real estate values elsewhere. But please, continue showing us how little you know

>>735449888
Your credit score is more important than your GPA

>>735458464
What kind of shit are you selling? Weapons?

>>735458481
all you're saying is that we live in a shit tier country where money>education and that's fucking sad, anon

>>735458247
>How does taxing the rich incentivize growth?
>Because it does

You didn't explain anything. You just repeated your premise without establishing why. Can you please try again? Explain how taxing the rich incentivizes economic growth?

>>735458600
I gave you a history lesson, anon. This country boomed on higher taxes not more than 60 years ago.
lrn2google

>>735458500
No. 100% legal.

>>735458465
>>735457691
>>735456663
Anon this is actually super interesting and I'll be honest I didn't know anything about this. Ignore that other guy. He really seems like he doesn't know what he's talking about

>>735458683
What are you selling? I want in.

>>735458679
Can you explain how? Because this is the third time I've asked you to explain how and you still haven't done it, which is leading me to conclude that you cannot.

>>735458700
You're easily duped by fancy rhetoric, anon. He's spewing Paultarded bullshit. It's right wing. If that fits you, fine.
The country is sick of that shit.

>>735458755
Jesus Christ you claim to be a fucking expert on economics but don't know shit about the 90% tax rate on the top earners during the 1950s and 60s?

Why am I not surprised? Why am I not surprised you're a fucking faggot talking right-wing economic garbage?

>>735458465
>>735458755
This is brutal to witness.

>>735458549
No im saying it would be nice to buy a car when you're 30 and literally nobody will ever ask what your GPA was in your entire life

>>735449888
yea, like, look both ways before you cross the street, man.

>>735458881
I'm not asking you for a history lesson. I'm asking you to explain how increasing taxes on the rich increases economic growth. Can you please explain to me why higher taxes on the rich encourages economic growth? This is the fourth time I have asked you to explain why your premise is true and the fourth time you have failed to do so.

>>735458904
You could buy a car at 30 if you started carefully building your credit 10 years earlier.

>>735458881
Idk man, I'm not that anon, but you gave like one example, and there were probably other factors influencing the 50s/60s boom. Unless you explain more thoroughly I'm not encouraged to listen to your point

>>735458808
Like not to be rude but the only one spewing rhetoric is you by trying to associate him with Paultard or whatever. You didn't explain what he's asking, and he completely wrecked you here>>735458465
Which definitely makes it seem like you don't know what you're talking about compared to him. Just saying from a third party perspective

>>735459015
Because the rich have to make more money to be even more rich. Duh.
I'm sorry that's such an easy concept you aren't able to grasp it.

>>735459119
There were no other factors. Today we're booming just as big as we did then in the 1950s. only wages suck for half the work force.
The rich don't want to give up power. That's why we keep having economic downturns. They expect US the taxpayer to make up for their bad business decisions.

>>735458881
Innovations in technology and the creation of new industries influenced the post-war economic boom FAR more than anything else

>>735459323
>>735459323
>Innovations in technology and the creation of new industries

because none of that is going on now and even bigger

the rich could afford it now
they just don't want to
and have the power to shirk their social responsibilities and push it on US

>>735449888
Kill yourself before it's too late

>>735459256
"There were no other factors"

That's right everyone. The economy is so simple that there were literally NO other factors for the post-war economic boom (like, I don't know, maybe the massive increase in military spending from the cold war) other than taxing the rich.

>>735459430
Keep ignoring that the super-rich stayed rich while having the fuck taxed out of them

It's important that you keep ignoring this while making excuses

>>735459256
I'm no economist but the recent stock boom really seems inflated to me. I don't really trust it. There's probably a bubble forming from the policies used to get us out of the 2008 crash, I think.
It would be nice if there were a way to get the rich to spend more money in the US economy without taxing the shit out of them/their companies. Taxing just makes them want to move their assets elsewhere. Otherwise the money just seems to pile up in their pocket and in the bigger corporations, though.
I have no idea what I'm talking about though.

>>735451067
This post is underrated simply because this is god tier advice

>>735459475
Keep ignoring the fact that no correlation exists in either direction between taxes on the rich and economic growth

>>735459525
Neither do I.
And if people had better wages, they'd be the ones spending and stimulating the economy instead of waiting for some fat old rich miser to do it, because shit ain't happening.

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>>735459617
Thanks. I'm also giving the economic advice. Some might conclude that I have my shit together and know what I'm talking about

>>735459650
Just looking at historical trends.
When you cut taxes on the rich is when we have economic stagnation: see the 2000s under Bush.
They don't invest, they sit on that money.

>>735459136
Shut the fuck up.
You probably think Ron Paul is cool too. Well he isn't. He's a fucking dipshit.

>>735459136
that wasn't me
I could give a fuck about agriculture unless it's >>735457903
weed

>>735459708
What you fail to understand is that part of the reason that wages haven't risen isn't corporate greed, but rather because the US economy (the one you so proudly touted as being $20 trillion strong) isn't actually strengthening. Productive capacity is not increasing, consumer debt and consumption spending are. There is limited real growth occurring. You're also ignoring that working hours have, on average, declined, non-monetary benefits have increased, and corporate taxes have increased (which increases the cost of employees and drives down wages. But wait, I thought you wanted more taxes on corporations?)

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>>735450392
This op. Also your a faggot

>>735460049
>the reason that wages haven't risen isn't corporate greed,
bullshit
that's exactly what it is
the rich refusing to share power
to the detriment of all of us

>>735460049
>You're also ignoring that working hours have, on average, declined, non-monetary benefits have increased, and corporate taxes have increased

horseshit

Kill yourself I'm drink and I can tell you that life sucks

>>735459891
Lol and again instead of addressing that you had no clue what the fuck you were talking about in regards to Agricultural real estate you just spew the tired line about Ron Paul. No one is talking about Ron Paul. But you've managed to completely discredit yourself so like good job

>>735460168
You keep replying because I'm right. You're a fucking Paultard.
You are so fucking busted.
Abolish the Fed, go back to the gold standard, small govt, reduce taxes to zero.

Fuck you.

>>735449888
Drop out.

>>735459765
Oh sorry I forgot that correlation and causation are the same thing.

But wait that doesn't even apply here because you're completely wrong and such a correlation doesn't exist in the first place.

>>735460156
Also I make 6 figures in Texas and I can tell it sucks

>>735460265
Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself

>>735460324
Again, facts:

When the tax rate was 90% on the top earners in this country, the US economy was booming. No rich people went broke because of it.

Keep carrying water, faggot, your indentured servitude is amusing.

>>735460378
Ron Paul is a fucking dipshit. You do not agree with any of his policies.

Say it, and we'll move on.

>>735460049
>>735460168
Is there anything important you want to tell us before the thread completely devolves into slapfighting?

>>735460097
ok bud. If that's simpler for you to imagine then go for it. But discussing it with you is pointless. You don't understand the core concepts we are discussing and you are completely unable to explain your points even when explicitly asked. If anyone else is interested in this I'll stick around to answer questions but I am done with you.

>>735449888
Yes,,, tomorrow go to the police station and apply to become a cop.

You'll have money, benefits and health care.

Save your money.

Move out of parents.

Buy a house and rent the rooms out to boarders.


Don't get married or think about it until you are over 27.

Don't get any girls pregnant.

Stay healthy

>>735460436
GDP growth was above 3% then you can't compare

>>735460536
Anon is just mad that not everyone is enslaved by the Gospel of Friedman Economics.
Some of us think for ourselves.

>>735460552
You're just mad that I don't fall lockstep into your worldview. That's called "having your shit challenged."

>>735460436
Economic growth was in not significantly spurred by the tax rate on the rich. Just because the two existed at the same time does not mean they had anything to do with each other. You literally don't know what you're talking about.

>>735454063
Soldiers are Warrior ants you fuckwit. It has nothing to do with a desire to be alpha. Some people are just designed for war. I'd be a soldier if I wasn't a pothead

>>735460559
>apply to become a cop.
Jesus what kind of hopeless right-wing country have we devolved into when that's considered a top-drawer option?

>>735460606
You're clearly simplifying the situation until you can demonize the rich and use that to push a political agenda. I'm an idiot high schooler and I can tell that. Please say something more substantial.

>>735455316
Which college was that?

What was your major?

>>735460655
Again, not that guy. But he articulated his points, defended them, and explained why they were right. You've just been swearing and going off topic without backing up anything you've said in a way that could be followed by the rest of us. If anyone seems like they're having a temper tantrum because their worldview got challenged, it's 100% you

>>735460571
Yes I can, faggot. We had a lot less people living here.
By capita the math works.

BTW taxation is 100% legal under the US Constitution.

It's pretty hypocritical to claim you only support parts of it, like the 2nd Amendment.

>>735460713
Not the point I'm making, really. It was more that the rich can easily absorb high tax rates. It is a falsehood that taxes hurt them.

>>735455316
Is Penn State a shit college?

>>735460800
I'm in high school too and I'd say I'm pretty liberal but just from like an arguing point that other guy explained everything he thought and why, while the other guy just kept scapegoating and attacking him

>>735460800
As long as the super-rich keep holding the rest of society hostage, they deserve to be "demonized."

They need to pay their fair share.

>>735460721
You get a gun and people can't fuck with you. Tell me how that is a bad job?

>>735460971
>>735460800
Let me give another piece of advice, then. Learning how to express your viewpoints and understanding why you believe certain things to be true is an invaluable skillset while you are finding your place in the world.

>>735449888
Be prepared.... life is shit from here on out.

>>735460856
They aren't "right." They are a well-known right-wing school of economic thought.

Outdated, myopic, well-known and right-wing school of economic thought. Stupid, selfish, short-sighted, out-of-touch with the needs of real people school of economic thought.

>>735461022
Because fuck being a fucking cop unless you have the inclination.

>>735461009
The rich pay a greater amount in taxes than anyone else. What are you talking about?

>>735461118
Can you explain why they're wrong without resorting to insults?

>>735461181
They make a shitload more.
Why do faggots always assume it's some poor guy paying a lot of money?
No. What they pay in taxes is shit compared to what they're making.

>>735450733
This is what I did, even picking a combat MOS its the easiest job you can find that pays worth a damn.

>>735461255
You said fair share though. They do... they pay a greater share than any other demographic

>>735461249
Because our fucking society is going downhill because dipshits like you keep legitimizing their philosophy. You aren't going to be part of some elite gentleman's club, anon. You are going to be a fucking tool just like me who provide services THEY benefit from. Until we get off our asses and demand social economic reforms.

>>735461324
Don't bother. It's easier for him to just complain about rich people than actually understand the economy

>>735450085
confirmed. all of my social skills came from college. or I would've been even more of a sperglord

>>735461324
You really have no idea what a percentage is, do you?

lel

>>735461365
Ok. Apparently the answer is no. I'm done listening to you then

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Get a gun and go back.

>>735461369
As long as the rich maintain the inexcusable economic gap where they get the lion's share of the fruits of labor, they're going to get badmouthed.

And carrying water for them isn't going to make you rich, either.

>>735461445
Fine. Be a tool wondering why your worldview is being attacked constantly by thinking people questioning the outdated corporatists paradigm. Be my guest. Stiggit to the libs.

>>735461394
Do you? highest-level earners pay over 33 % of expanded cash income in federal taxes compared to 13.7 % for the middle class and 3.1% for the lower class.

I'm not the economics guy, I just googled this right now. So like it took 5 seconds on google to see that rich people pay over twice as much in taxes as the middle class and over 10 times more than the lower class?

>>735461487
>>735461562
>I can't explain why I'm right no matter how many times people ask me but you're all dumb for not agreeing with me

>>735461577
>highest-level earners pay over 33 % of expanded cash income i
which. isn't. SHIT.

>>735461577
This is great. Don't let either one of us TELL you what to think. Listen to both of us and then take the time to research it for yourself to figure out what you think. That way you'll be able to explain WHY you believe in something rather than just spewing blind vitriol

>>735461646
Faggot, just shut up. You are so brainwashed by the political right.
I feel sorry for the next 10 years of your life.

>>735454871
seems legit

>>735461646
I'm still waiting
Say "yes" the following and we can move on:

1. Ron Paul is a dipshit
2. His economic policies are bullshit

>>735461808
>claims I'm brainwashed for listening to both sides of an argument and deciding one was better than the other
>can't explain his points at all
>can't explain why the other side is wrong without going into an autistic seizure

Idk man I'm pretty sure you just got shit on

>>735449888

Nice triple 8's.

#1 suggestion: During college get an internship.

If you have half a brain they will be willing to hire you after that's done.

For college life: nobody likes the chan nazi perspective. Actually, nobody but the echo chamber here is into that crap.

Be respectful of the people that died fighting our wars over the last 16 years in the Middle East.


Try to have fun and learn, as opposed to try and ruin everyone else's fun.

>>735461932
You don't have the critical thinking skills to question this paradigm, anon. Of course anyone like me condemning it sounds "wrong" to you

kek

>>735461899
I don't know anything about his policies so I can't just blindly say that without researching it first and educating myself on it

>>735461753
You think they enjoy having 1/3 of their income taken away just by the feds? Why are they going to want to stay in the US if they're getting so much of their cash taken away to provide for people they don't know or care about?

>>735462013
You haven't explained anything though. You just keep saying something is wrong without bringing anything to the table as to why you're right. Plus when the other guy brought up a bunch of different concepts, he showed that you didn't even understand them

>>735462146
They're still rich, anon. Stop trying to paint them as victims.

>>735462222
Again, this country flourished under a 90% tax on the highest earners. Why do you faggots keep trying to deny that?

>>735462146
Keep in mind that's only federal taxes. They also additionally pay state and local taxes, in addition to other taxes like capital gains

>>735450392 this.

>Wear a rubber and fuck everyone. You never know what you like until you try.

>Drink a lot but learn your limits, nobody likes a sloppy vomiting drunkard.

>Be confident but not cocky

>Read a lot.

>>735462222
>he showed that you didn't even understand them
no he didn't
he tried to push a bunch of right-wing econ as fact and got mad when it really wasn't

>>735462319
Because correlation does not equal causation but you don't seem to understand everyone's already said that that you like 10 times

>>735462336
oh those poor poor rich people
lol

>>735462433
Teabagger, pls--you've said the same stupid non-response 3 times

>>735462273
I'm just saying we should try not to aggravate them by taxing them too hard.

>>735462433
90% tax rate, dipshit.
And oddly the rich stayed rich. And got richer.

>>735462532
Do you really enjoy interpreting the rich's fee-fees for the rest of us this much?

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>>735462403
A step-by-step reading
1) he established a position
2) you insulted the position without explaining why
3) when confronted, you tried to explain your position, which turned out to be wrong, and ALSO about an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CONCEPT than what OP was talking about
4) OP explains his concept clearly and why he's right about what he was saying in 1.

dude just let it go. Maybe you have a point somewhere but you're so terrible at explaining it that you've made your whole cause look retarded

>>735462579
dude just pointing out that in this post >>735459256
you said there were no other factors contributing to the economic boom except taxing the rich a lot. Again, just a dumb high school kid who has never taken a class on this stuff ever, but even I know that history is way more complicated than saying there were "no other factors" for literally anything

>>735462497
Because when you say "the 50s had 90% tax rate on the rich" we all realize that isn't a premise that defends your point because correlation does not equal causation. The tax rate on the rich is not the reason the economy boomed. Stop using it as an argument in your favor because it in no way shape or form supports your opinion

>One person explains their thoughts with relevant information
>The other person just keeps attacking the other person and rambling about stuff no one is talking about

Not really hard to see who has a more educated opinion on this

>>735462931
Brutal. Savage. Rekt

>>735463379
This.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like any more productive discussion is gonna happen. Thanks for your time anons, it was enlightening

>>735449888
figure out what you wanna do ASAP and enjoy everything

>>735451067
>>735461056
This is what I'm taking from this thread

>>735462403
>>735463688
Then you did good

>>735463877
Didn't mean to quote that first one lol

I just graduated to. And I have no fucking idea what to do.

End it before it's too late.

I just graduated as well. Got a job as an inventory specialist and currently making about 1200 a month. Debating on whether or not to pursue a college education or another job.

>>735464578
The world is unfair.
>>735454461
This guy has in his wallet right now what you make in a month

>>735464831
I make 10 dollars a fucking hour. After taxes it would take me more than a month to have that money. How the fuck am I supposed to ever get ahead?

>>735450733
joining the military is my biggest regret in life

> went to an academy so can't attest to enlistment

2/10

>>735454937
buy silver goys

No matter how ready you feel you are, something might go wrong that's fully unexpected. Stay calm, and think out your problems- and don't be afraid to wing it if you absolutely must.

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>>735457691
are you kidding me

buy silver
take physical delivery
hodl

>>735449888
Get a job make good friends at job live for job become cog
Or run for office

start doing hallucinogenic drugs