How was this not considered a war crime?

>>735384511
I despise America but fuck Japan they needed a good fuck in the ass. The shit they did during WW2 made the nazis look like fucking pacifists in comparison.

>>735384511
They were freedom bombs thats why

>>735384511
because 'Murica

It was just a reaction from an action. they were told to surrender and ignored the US. BOOM! 129k dead, then they surrendered, dumbasses. PROTIP: Don't fuck with freedom.

>>735384511
America does not commit crimes.

>>735384511

Because there were no war crimes yet, the Geneva convention met to define articles of war crimes AFTER the war ended.

>>735384511
because hurr durr america good guys tv said so

>>735384511
the nukes didn't do any more damage than traditional bombing had done up to that point. What's the difference between killing people with 1000 bombs and killing people with 1 bomb? Is one more moral?

>>735384511

because america is war police.

>>735385016
It was a retaliation. Get over it. If not for this there'd be no Godzilla or creepy Japanese shit you fap too.

>>735384903
you should read the wiki article about that "ignoring"

>>735385029

the difference is massive civilian targets, massive radiation poisoning to survivors that continued for decades.

>>735385029
The picture is from Tokyo. Tokyo was not a-bombed.

>>735385120
>It was a retaliation.
You nuked a CITY, with civilians, not a military base.

>>735384903
They werent warned the first time they nuked them.

>>735384511
of course it was a warcrime! even twice! but the allied were the judjes about that at the time.

>>735385214
That's not true.

A 50+ year study of atomic bomb survivors found an increased cancer incidence of 1 per 1000 greater than the general population of Japan.

Radiation poisoning either kills you or it doesnt. If it's acute enough, (600 rem or more) then you just die, and all there is to do is palliative care. Below that most adults can survive and recover.

t. Nuclear plant operator with security clearance to read the files.

>>735385247
not OP, however i don't see that as a bad thing.

Country pokes big guy, big guy swings and fucks up the country's organs(cities)


People put too much value to human life

>>735385014
kek you have no idea what are you talking about

bombing of all japanese cities (fires from regular bombs killed way more civillians than a-bombs), bombing of dresden - all were war crimes by those day standarts

>>735385247
>You nuked a city
No, Truman and the crew of the Eola Gay nuked a city, stop being a faggot.

>It was full of civilians.
It was also full of shipyards supplying the Imperial Japanese Navy, and munitions plants.

You have read about WWII right? The firebombing of Tokyo killed more people than the A bomb, so did the bombing of Dresden, and Stalingrad, and Nanjing, and...

It was the violent end to a violent, total war.

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>>735385346
The US did a LOT to warn the people in the area. The fact that they were too brainwashed by their government doesn't change the fact that the US dropped flyers, did mass message campaigns, even humanitarian aids to try and convince the mainland to surrender.

The fact that they didn't surrender after the first bomb was dropped showed how brain washed even the government was. The fact that the UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER had a few conditions made by the Japanese showed how murderous they are.

>>735384511

This is what happens when war materials are manufactured within urban areas. The allies targeted the factories and the neighboring homes were caught in the attack.

Protip: Don't hide factories behind houses if you don't want the houses bombed.

OP, do a little research next time, and you won't come out looking like a retard.

I just wanted to say that i enjoy these conversations, anons.
God bless

>>735385547
>thousands of civilian deaths
>i don't see that as a bad thing.
>People put too much value to human life
Ok. Kill yourself.

History is written by the victor

>>735385864
how else do you want to make pre-WW2-japanese government surrender?
They would happily sacrifice dozens of thousands lives just to get the win otherwise

>>735384511
Because the West is filled with hypocrisy. Japan and the other Axis powers did unforgivable things, but the west often likes to pretend that they're innocent when in fact they nuked civilians, propped up dictatorships, and even persecuted their own people. None of the governments back then were innocent.

>>735385864

Seems you're doing everything you can to only look at this one way. Why don't you retrace the steps and see what led us down this decision to begin with.

>>735385965

Not really. History is written by anyone and everyone recounting the past

>>735384903
>PROTIP: Don't fuck with freedom.
As an American: What fucking freedom do we have that the others don't? If anything, we're not free, we're only freer than certain other countries.

>>735385676
of course all the regular bombs killed more people dumbass

there were thousands of times more of those than there were atom bombs

>>735384705
This. Go wikipedia 'Unit 732'.
Makes the Holocaust look like a summer camp

>>735384511
cuz when yankees do it its named democracy and freedom

>>735384511
Because Einstein, at the time there was no law against weapons of mass destruction. Where do you think the law originated? Since there was no law, there was no crime. It also saved many more than it killed. Japan would have happily sent it's entire population to war if it would let them win. Oh and it was not Tokyo.

>>735386116
freedom of speech for example ?
in most countries you can get jailed for publicly aligning yourself with nazis and shit like that

>>735385547
>People put too much value to human life
I agree. Make an example of yourself and be an hero.

>>735385214
You understand history poorly.

The US targeted Hiroshima and Nagasaki because due to the rivers acting as firebreaks, "normal" firebombing would be ineffective

>>735386248
>suicide and sacrifice are the same

god damn roody-poo

>>735384511
because america won and was able to decide what was a "war crime" and what not

>>735384903
and the truth is that japs didnt give a fuck about atomic bombs but russians were coming from the west and if they came in they would ruin japan with communism
thats why japs surrendered , they were afraid of losing their traditions and shit

>>735384511
Not knowing that Japan was genociding democratic and socialist Chinese..
>>fail

>>735384511
Because without those nukes. The Japanese army would have destroyed the entiry of Japan. They were that fucking crazy.

They were totally willing to have a huge bloody ground war on their own soil. If that had happened, alot more people would have died.

>>735386116
You must be young. Freedom doesn't mean being free in the USA. Freedom is our overwhelming power. The people fear our freedom. We should all fear it.

>>735386427
>Japan is one person
Last time I checked it wasn't a democracy, the civilians had nothing to do with it.

>>735385247
Yes, what do you want. ALL of the civilians dying?.

Or, just a few in comparison to that.?

The Japanese army would have completely destroyed every last bit of Japan and order civilians to fucking kill themselves

Look, you dumb as fuck millenials. The file name says Tokyo. T-O-K-Y-O. Dear shit-for-brains, Tokyo was fire bombed, not nuked. All the houses were wood.

God damned fuck morons. Go back to something you know, like games and spinners.

>>735386441
American propaganda.
>no, the only other option was to set up a ground invasion and kill every civilian in sight, it was the only way!

>>735384511
>How was this not considered a war crime?

Cause Jebus

>>735386638
>if we didn't nuke those cities everyone would have died
Do you honestly believe that?

>>735386669

Positive liberty is the possession of the capacity to act upon one's free will, as opposed to negative liberty, which is freedom from external restraint on one's actions. A concept of positive liberty may also include freedom from internal constraints.
Negative liberty is freedom from interference by other people. Negative liberty is primarily concerned with freedom from external restraint and contrasts with positive liberty (the possession of the power and resources to fulfil one's own potential).
Both negative and positive freedom, or liberty, are equally important. It can be readily accepted that true liberty requires they exist simultaneously. ... Accordingly, if the government prevents an individual's pursuits, his negative liberties are infringed. ~Erich Fromm

Classical liberalism is a political ideology that values the freedom of individuals — including the freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and markets — as well as limited government. It developed in 18th-century Europe and drew on the economic writings of Adam Smith and the growing notion of social progress.
>>tell us more about Imperial Japan, because I do believe every woman and child had been declared "soldiers" by their own government.

>>735384511
Talk shit get hit faggots

>>735386735
Japanese government was fucking nuts nigga, they would gladly throw their entire population on battlefields just to win shit

>>735386514
>Freedom doesn't mean being free in the USA. Freedom is our overwhelming power. The people fear our freedom. We should all fear it.
Is this a genuine post? Holy shit Americans are delusional.

>>735386828
Just like the Vietnam war?

>>735386735
a land invasion would have cost more american and japanese lives.

Not a crime because US won.

>>735386665
The filename is not the image. The image is Nagasaki after the nuke. Learn history please and how to recognize Iconic images.

>>735385247
Tokyo was firebombed not nuked you dip

Conventional bombing runs against mainland Japan killed more people than the two nuclear bombs combined.

>>735384903
It was the russians that were leading them to surrender. The americans dropped the bombs hoping to end hte war sooner so the Soviets wouldn't be able to take Manchuria and Korea as new territory. The whole end game of the war was to stop the soviets but still, it was them that caused the end of the war and the surrender of Japan. The emperor wanted already to surrender and was in the process of figuring out how to get the military to follow the order to surrender and not go for an all out last stand and attrition.

>>735386577
this guy is reeeeeeeeee
%if bait?

>>735386865

False equivalency.

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>>735385029
because it was entirely a civilian target.....

>>735386865
was vietnam threat to everyone around them ?
also, mericans lost that one

>>735385247
The military base you talk of was also home to civilians as there was housing there for the soldiers family. It was also a holiday so there where more families on base then normal.

>>735385700
the navy was done at that point lol so was the army

>735361202 wrong for dis

>>735384511
We won.

>>735386948
The image is of Nagasaki, the troll just renamed for the sole purpose of trolling idiots like you.

>>735386735


Do you have any bloody idea how absolutely crazy the japanese were?. Germans were bad. Russians worse. But they dont even come close to the Japanese. Anything the Russians or Germans did, Japan did it tenfold. They had allready ordered civilians to commit suicide whenever the Americans came to them.

They pretty much convinced that the enemies were like demons and had nothing good in them. There were soldiers trying to fucking save these people, but they were so brainwashed that they fucking threw themselves off of cliffs......

Just imagine being so brainwashed by a government that you feel the need to throw your entire family off a cliff. This is how insane Japan was

>>735387012
Not to the Japanese
you are using two variables// The american standard for the accusations and the japanese model for the defense. READ YOU HISTORY. NO CIVILIANS/. dumbfuk

>>735384511
Because Americans are retards and refuse to accept that """their""" country can do anything wrong because America is a reincarnation of God himself.

>>735386920
Do those look like the Nagasaki bridges to you? It's the result of the firebombing campaign against Tokyo. Just like it says on the tin you sanctimonious prick

>>735385713
they were penning the will to surrender before the bombs were dropped... and it had nothing to do with the bombs, it had to do with the Soviets about to take Manchuria and Korea and then a land invasion of Japan. The US wasn't capable of a land invasion but the soviets were and they reeeeeeaaallly didn't want that to happen.

>>735386865
The vietnamese were alot nicer compared to the Japanese

People dont seem to realize how completely batshit insane Japan was at the time. They were North Korea levels of insane, only with an actually capable army and a massive naval fleet

>>735387124
just reverse image search the OP pic and you'll see several independent websites calling it Tokyo

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lets just do this

>>735387183
Your discussion and point is mute as long as you resort to name calling.

>>735387135
Wow it's almost as if you only read one side of history from a super uber biased american view point by a bald eagle dick sucking vantage point....

>>735387093
you mean the soviets ?

>>735387314
It's moot you ignorant dip

>>735387234
>The vietnamese were alot nicer
I was referring to the USA

>>735387369
insert picture of boy scouts here

>>735387328
I'm Indonesian, my family was on the recieving end of the Japanese.

>>735386874
This.

>>735387384
Yeah it's similar a bit. Throwing soldiers into a fight for a pointless cause

>>735387314
>point is mute

Kek

>>735387366
No it's mute because nobody is listening you Neanderthal!

>>735387369
https://youtu.be/vPRfP_TEQ-g

>>735384511
2 nukes wasn't enough

>>735384511
victors

history

writing.

>>735385220

Most unnoticed fact. incendiary bomb=/=atomic bomb

>>735387553
lel nice angry punctuation

>>735384903
nigger they were ready to surrender but the yanks wanted a demonstration of the bomb to attempt to scare the soviets

>>735386160
>Go wikipedia ____.
Wikipedia is a shill board. Pls don't damage 4chan's credibility by citing unreliable Web sites as sources here.

>>735387624
>>735387483
>>735387369
>>735387271
yes this means civilians deserved to burn to death

>>735386357
I've read articles saying that the has did fear the Russian since the last time they fought the Russians were weak. And the only reason they surrendered was because the emperor lift after the assassination attempt committed by his generals and they had plans to continue the war even at the cost of their own country

>>735387682
their God king said they werent civilians shut your fucking no fact no history face. niggar punk.

>>735387447
I'm jewish. And yes the japanese did terrible things, I was talking about the other stuff about brainwashing their own people and all that. Everybody thinks that based basically on the Kamikazi fighter pilots. Which actually weren't a large group at all and was a great idea. I mean .... effective as hell. The allies sent thousands of soldiers to sure death everywhere, as in we knew that thousands would die that would be the first to get to an area to eventually let a few take a position. Yet a single fighter loaded with a bomb and a bunch of fuel could take out an entire ship. What's worse and is it any different ?

>>735387234
So what you're saying is North Korean civilians deserve to burn to death becaue their dictator doesn't care for them?

>>735384511
The firebombing of civilian targets by all sides of the war were war crimes

>>735385676
fuck you gook. enjoy your grandparents glowing in the dark.

>>735387829
so what your saying is no one has tried to let them live?

>>735387801
What's wrong with this pictue? That's just a soldier training. I'm preety sure USA soldiers train too.

>>735387829
this.
just because a leader is a certain way doesn't mean the civilians deserve the same fate as their leader, that is insane. Those people weren't on the same level of belief as their leader either. And the emperor wanted to surrender long before the end of the war. It was the military leaders who wouldn't allow it.

Dresden.

this is all bait to fuel asian/whitey outrage.
>>deuces

>>735387670
>4chan's credibility

>>735387271
>>735387369
>>735387483
>>735387624
>>735387687
>>735387801
>having all of that saved
The war is over, idk if you're aware of that.
Must be fun being you, spreading fucking world war 2 propaganda on imageboards.

>>735388063
>>735384511
topkek

>>735387624
>>735387483
>>735387369
If those were Americans you'd call it patriotism and congratulate. Also https://youtu.be/vPRfP_TEQ-g

>>735384705
>chink

>>735388063
>>735388135
>>735384511

>>735387810
I'm talking about Japanese civilians throwing themselves off of cliffs because they saw no other way.


>>735387829
are you fucking retarded?, i'm just saying that North Korea would do the same shit. Nobody deserves to be brainwashed by an asshole government like that

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>>735384511
it was fertilizer. Look how they grew after woulds

>>735388166
What did he mean by this?
Nice dubs.

>>735384511
explain how the poles streets bridges river are all still standing

>fake ass nukes dont exist
>earth is flat
>woke

Japanese died in hopeless suicide charges, starved to death in the field, killed their own wounded rather than let them fall into enemy hands, and murdered their civilian compatriots in places such as Saipan and Okinawa," he wrote. At home, "They watched helplessly as fire bombs destroyed their cities -- all the while listening to their leaders natter on about how it might be necessary for the 'hundred million' all to die 'like shattered jewels.'"

Their entire population was being prepped for mass suicide.

>>735388259

Edgy braj

>>735388259
Cause tokyo wasn't nuked you giant faggot

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>>735388250
>>735388279

>>735384511
>How was this not considered a war crime?
Because "war crimes" are never committed by the winners of wars, only by the losers.

The entire notion of "war crime" is a self-serving moral justification for the winners of a war, who were as viciously criminal as their enemy, to convince thenselves their own horrific acts of genocidal depravity were true and just and right.

It's a dick rate thread but on a national scale.

Also. Why is none of you talking about Dresded? you know that city that was of zero strategic value, but got leveled anyway?

Now THAT was a warcrime

We used the bomb for a reason by nuking japan into submission we were able to prevent much more lives being lost for both sides and a few more years of war. I think the bomb was worth it. And btw the Japanese raped pillaged and murdered 300,000 civilians in the Nanking Massacre so they aren't much better

>>735384511
How was your mom not considered a war crime?

>>735387659
this

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>>735384511
Because Americans are retards and are willing to believe anything they're told as long as it's in the name of "freedom"

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>>735388346
>>not even close to making reasonable comparisons.
>>why am I still here

>>735384511
because the commies were about to invade.

had to expedite the surrender

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>>735388393
Winners cannot commit warcrimes?

They have done so many times, here's an example

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>>735388326

>>735388500
>why am I still here
Good question, nobody wants you here.

>>735388418
Patience, anon. We're getting there.

>>735388418
Germans started it, British finished it. You dont start a fight and cry when someone fucks your shit up.

>>735388502
also stalin would of hung the emperor while the US didn't care, look up August Storm and see how the soviets utterly shit on a million man army with less than 10,000 casualties. while we were struggling to kill japs eating moldy rice

LOL THE WINNERS WRITE HISTORY MY DUDES LIKE BOOOOOOOOOOM LMAOOOOOOO

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I love how people complain about the nuke but know one gives a shit about the fucking half a million people that got raped and slaughtered when japan invaded china

>>735388179
this didn't really happen much, yes to some people it did, it also happened to german civilians who shot themselves when incoming allies were coming because they were told they'd be raped and killed and so did tons of allies. American soldiers committed suicide instead of being taken captive and especially those around the japanese. You can't just chock it up to the japanese doing this and ignore the rest of the world doing the same damn thing .... and it was extremely rare for them to "throw themselves off of cliffs" this is propaganda at its finest and it's still apparently working over half a century later on some people like you

>>735388687
ok
That still leaves Hiroshima and Nagasaki

>>735388768
that's not what op's pic is of tho

>>735388740
I'm preety sure the civilians didn't do it though.
By that logic, is it now okay to nuke New York because America commited war crimes?

>>735388808
Tokyo was still bombed to shit, if you deny that you're delusional.

>>735388418
not to mention how much art was destroyed their. Dresden was such a beautiful city and literally nothing but civilians. No military targets whatsoever but tons of art and a huge wealth of knowledge all gone. Massive libraries and everything. Time to read Slaughterhouse Five again.

Well America dropped leaflets to warn the Japanese people, America would've lost hundreds of thousands of troops, and USA still babied Japan after the war into a first world country, I see nothing unreasonable

>>735386160
Its 731

>Instead of being tried for war crimes, the researchers involved in Unit 731 were secretly given immunity by the U.S. in exchange for the data they gathered through human experimentation.

Damn son thats fucked up

>>735388949
>I see nothing unreasonable
I see a lot of civilian deaths.

>>735388393
>>735388522
It may be a travesty but it would not be charged as a war crime.

>>735389023
NO IT'S FREEDOM YOU DON'T GET IT

>>735388522
You're missing the point.

"Crime" is something the more powerful accuse of the less powerful. It's not a moral statement, it's an expression of power and dominance.

Winners could set fire to every child in a defeated country, slow roast them alive until their flesh was falling off their bones, and make pulled pork-style sammiches and eat them while giving the scraps to their dogs - and it wouldn't be a "war crime" but somehow a deserved act of noble righteousness.

Crimes, like laws, are never for the powerful.

>>735388600
1 million beautifully equipped Russians against a ~270,000 poorly equipped Japanese beta-army that the Imperial Navy didn't support.

>>735388883
yeah, obviously, look at the fucking picture.


but everyone is talking about nukes like a bunch of retards

>>735388890
Dresden got cocky. During the war they would grandiosely gesture at the skyline of baroque buildings and say "This is our anti-aircraft defense", like nobody would dare bomb them because they were too pretty.

>>735389129
civillian city with 0 strategic vallue

>>735388600
Thats because by the time they attacked Pearl Harbor they actually had the largest and most modern naval fleet of any country.

You still kicked their asses though

>>735384511

I don't think it should be a crime to miss a few buildings. The troops did their best.

>>735389050
Too fucking bad, lmao, they were warned with leaflets. Blame Japan for not surrendering for the good of their people.

>>735388135
can you really call that disgusting shit patriotism?
that's more like an obsession than anything patriotic

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>>735389251
terror bombing is a valid reason... at least it was back then

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Come on sheeple we all know tokyo was bombed to hell because they were finally going to debunk this ridiculous "round earth" theory

>>735389251
On 16 February, the Propaganda Ministry issued a press release that stated that Dresden had no war industries; it was a city of culture

>>735387358
>men that threw themselves into battle with no weapons
>millions and millions killed
>hurr such sacrifice

Soviets were idiots. They won at getting killed and being bullet sponges.

>>735389654
I saw with my own eyes that Dresden was an armed camp: thousands of German troops, tanks and artillery and miles of freight cars loaded with supplies supporting and transporting German logistics towards the east to meet the Russians"

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A picture of OP. A revisionist faggot who wasn't even born or knew hat the world was like then. Go suck your nigger daddys dick meat!

>>735389474
no true scotsman

>>735389376
>lmao
We're talking about deaths of thousands here.

>tfw drop papers saying you won celebrate
>drop nukes on happy japs
>want to keep testing nukes
>pussy emperor surrenders

>>735389874
This is the typical American argument. Don't like bombing innocent civilains? Fucking pussy snowflake amirite?

>>735384511
It's not. It was a show of ego from a spineless Truman who got a nuke.

Think back when u were a loser on the school yard.. Like today. Suddenly u got a loaded gun in your hands. You take the one who hurt you the most in order to make an example of your power. Them you autistically screech about it for years to come, wearing the article of the event on your neck as you get ass rammed in prison.

>>735384511
Because literal terrorism is ok when we do it "for the right cause"

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>>735388687
We all know Beijing got nuked to hell by Liberty Prime because as we all know death is favorable alternative to communism

>>735389874
Quite laborious task... asking a nigger to find his daddy. I guess that's dick is gonna stay dry for a while

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>>735384511
How is liberalism not considered treason?

Fucking subhuman liberal trash need to be fucking put in death camps.

Death to liberalism.

>>735384511
Because we won.
Only the loser commits war crimes, the winner has "unconventional warfare" instead.

>>735385247
You clearly don't understand the concept of total war, or what the Japanese did to the rest of Asia for decades prior to waking the sleeping giant. Read a fucking book.

daily reminder scumbag usa forgave all involved in unit 731

>>735391831
It was for the greater good of the nation

>>735384511

Japan was a small dude that tried to pick on a giant and got their ass handed to them. Yeah, obama "apologized" for himself, not the American public.

I think its hilarious. Shouldn't have firebombed it. Should have waited to nuke it.

Fun fact, other than the first two bombs, the Allies had twelve more in production ready to go.

>>735384511
This warcrime prevented other, worse ones from being necessary.

>>735385713

Umm....this was the firebombing of Tokyo, like Dresden Germany these types of attacks killed far more people than the nucs, nobody wants to believe this...

>>735384705

You are satan, nobody needs your filth FOAD you POS

>>735384511
Because we won? Only losers get tried for war crimes, obviously. That being said, fuck the Japs. They deserved it. They did far worse during the war, and they started it with us too.

>>735392440
>They
The civilians?

Gooks deserved it after nanking and unit 731.

Bombed the masculinity out of them so now everyone else can steal the jap pussy.

>>735392570
The cogs in the machine are part of the machine

>>735384511
The winners don't get prosecuted. If the Axis had won they would have had their own version of the Nuremberg trials where they convicted Allied generals of war crimes.

>>735385447

It wasn't a war crime. If Japan hadn't bombed Pearl Harbor, or invaded China, then they wouldn't have been nuked.

The war against Nazi Germany ended two months before the first bomb was completed.

Japan, like Germany had a nuclear weapons program. Led by a smart guy that many thought was close to Einstein in brains, only they chose chemical diffusion versus heavy water manufacture versus gaseous diffusion for the allies and actually started in 1939. The Japanese government decided that it wasn't important to complete nuclear weaponization. If Japan or Germany had nuclear weapons, the first thing they would have done is attacked a western city, no doubt. London, maybe Los Angeles, etc...

So, "Don't tread on Me, motherfucker" Roast in hell.

>>735392655
>Gooks deserved it after nanking and unit 731.
Reminder USA protected the people behind 731 in exchange for their reaserch.

>>735392758
>Don't tread on Me, motherfucker
Found the edgy teen.

>>735384511
Because we won, you dumb asshole.
See Nuremberg.

>>735392769
But science

>>735392911
Where I live, grown men have this on bumper stickers on their f-250s with cummins diesel engines. They do not mean it ironically

>>735386357

The US had 13 more nucs in various stages of production. The Japanese wouldn't have been able to continue as they would have been reduced to ashes.

American military archives reveal that if the Japanese had not surrendered on August 15, 1945, they would have been hit by a third and potentially more powerful atomic bomb just a few days later and then, eventually, an additional barrage of up to 12 further nuclear attacks.

Mostly because we them we were going to do it beforehand...
There wasn't an anti-nuclear convention at the time, also they were given three opportunities to surrender before.
That being said a lot of the Japanese do considered a war crime.

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>>735384511
See what happens when you build a city out of wood....one good firestorm and ...poof...no more Toyko

>>735384511
Because only the losers of wars get charged with war crimes.

>>735384511
Because we won. Geez, I thought everyone knew that rule.

My Uncle was a March of Bataan & Hell Ship Survivor. He was working slave labor at Fukuoka 17 when he witnessed the Nagasaki blast.
Fuck Japan.

>>735393398
My uncle works for Nintendo and he'll ban you from the Miiverse

>>735386735

Old dude here. My mother was young and on Okinawa during the invasion, and the local populace were brainwashed into believing all sorts of propaganda and they would have fought (or comitted suicide) til the end. She survived only because all the adults were killed around her and was captured by the allies.

As my mother described it, you basically didn't have a chance, if you were fit enough you were told to fight to the end and then kill yourself as the allies would probably eat them alive (propaganda)

>>735393398
>My Uncle
Wouldn't that make him like 90?

>>735386301
Pretty much sums it all up right there.

>>735393538
Is that still taught in history classes or are people in this thread particularly retarded?

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>>735384511
Umm... Because it was cool?

>>735393064
Where do you live anon? Sounds like the place from Far Cry 5

>>735392570
Yes. Collective responsibility. They benefited from the imperialism of their government. You think the rest of the world would forgive American citizens for the perceived crimes of our government? Morality is a social construct. It only applies within societies. You don't get to lose a war and then claim you were righteous. Nobody cares because the only ones who do care are the ones who lost.

>>735394318
This is retarded. By your logic New York deserves to be nuked because the CIA tortures people.

>>735393712
This is /b/. Everybody here is retarded.

Not going to read all of these dumbass replies here. Reason it was not a warcrime - both cities were major centers of the Japanese imperial military industrial complex. Destroying them greatly reduced their ability to make war. Even the civilians there were trained in how to make stabbing weapons out of bamboo, and how to hug explosives and roll under American vehicles. 100% valid military targets.

>>735386963

You have your head up your ass. The decision to nuc the axis was made at the Qubec agreement in 1943. You are wrong about the Emperor, as he had the sole decision. In Japan, the Emperor is considered a deity. Its just that after Hiroshima, there was disbelief that one bomb could cause so much distruction. Even so, through broken code, the Japanese didn't think that the allies had more than two bombs, but in reality the allies had 1 more gigantic bomb and 12 more in stages of production being assembled. Russia didn't declare war on Japan until August 9, so as much as you want to believe that Russia caused the Japanese to surrender, Emperor Hirohito intervened and ordered the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War to accept the terms the Allies had set down in the Potsdam Declaration for ending the war.

>>735394384
>This is retarded. By your logic New York deserves to be nuked because the CIA tortures people.

I'm sure our enemies believe that, and they are welcome to try. But they will reap the repercussions as well.

>>735394871
>In Japan, the Emperor is considered a deity
Was anon, was.
The war is over, you can calm down now.
Yes that's right, the war is over. You are no longer in war with japan, I know, it's hard to understand.

>>735386033

December 7, 1941. Look it up.

>>735386116

You're probably a faggot aren't you?

>>735386233
Why is that a bad thing exactly?

>>735395144

Grow up little boy. My mom is Japanese, she lived through the invasion of Okinawa. My dad was a B-29 gunner. You have any direct evidence other than "what you have read?"

>>735395234
Good argument

>>735395408
>You have any direct evidence other than "what you have read?"
Maybe your mum is retarded, most Japanese people are atheists. Oh but that's just "what I have read", I'm sure you know better.

>>735384511
>Am jap boy
>am taken in fram emperor and told to be pilot for kamikaze
>am kamikaze
>am fly to pearl harbour
>am fuck up to jap empire
>japs get raped in ass
>am cry becus got nuked twice
>am cry becus tokyo driftz

>>735384511
because it's Detroit. . .blame the dindus

Who cares? Talk shit get hit lmao.

>>735392023
My Grandmothers entire family died in Dresden. It was a boarderline war crime.

>>735384511
Because we won

>>735384511
Why does this say "bomb damage in Tokyo"?

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>>735388687

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>>735385016
Might makes right. Always. The winners write history. Always.

Remember these two things before you decide it's a good idea to fuck with America.

>>735396587
Beacause it shows bomb tamage in Tokyo?

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>>735396683

>>735396731
It was Nagasaki and hiroshima

>Pearl Harbor
Nuff said

>>735396838
You know bombs aren't exclusively nukes right?

During WW2 it became the central focus of the allied strategy to use war crimes (i.e. targeting population centers and not military installations) to expedite the end of hostilities

Since then, civilians bear the brunt of bellicosity which is something we inherited from the madness of that conflict.

>>735396956
Yeah, those civilians really deserve it, they were born under an imperialist regime.

>>735397107
Literally terrorism.

>>735384511
Bc the non-stop escalation between Britain and Germany gave at to a situation where war crimes were being committed lef and right, and eventually no one had any idea where it would end.

Humans are fucking stupid apes.

>>735397130
They didn't care about the civilians killed in Pearl Harbor.

>>735396684
Where do you live? I'd like to come kill you and take your stuff

>>735384511
Double think

>>735384511
war crimes are committed against people

>>735384511
Because we won
Japan got back at us with Grave of the Fireflies though

>>735388745
Entirely false

>>735384511
Look up the laws of war in effect at the time and figure it out yourself. It's not that hard.

>>735384511
>Implying attack on pearl harbor didn't kill civilians
>implying pearl harbor wasn't an attack on neutral(at the time) america

>>735397072
What non nuke bomb did th damage in the op pic? Please tell me.

>>735384511

Its a crime that I laugh so hard at it.

>>735393110
Fuck Japan. They have no room to talk, when it comes to war crimes. Fuck. Japan.

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>>735397248
North Austin. One block from the wag-a-bag. Yes, Texas. So good luck.

>>735397957
Not one bomb, multiple bombs.

Winners dont commit war crimes

>>735385676
>all were war crimes by those day standarts

Kek, you have no idea what you're talking about. Look up the principles of distinction and proportionality to see why the fire bombings and the nukes weren't war crimes under the laws in effect at the time.

Fun fact: they'd still be legal today, under the same circumstances.