/b/'s opinion on religion

>>734698394
Look, Anon, I need to tell you something because I don't know if I'll ever see you again.

I was an orphan. I grew up in Pennsylvania in a whorehouse. I read about Milton Hershey and his school in porno magazine or whatever crap the girls left by the toilet. And I read that some orphans had a different life there. I could picture it. I dreamt of it. Of being wanted. Because the woman who was forced to raise me would look at me every day like she hoped I would disappear. The closest I got to feeling wanted was from a girl who would make me go through her jons’ pockets while they screwed. If I collected more than a dollar, she’d buy me a Hershey bar. And I would eat it–alone–in my room, with great ceremony, feeling like a normal kid. It said “sweet” on the packet. It was the only sweet thing in my life.

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>>734698394
believe in whatever you want. Just keep it to yourself

>>734698394
No time for that with all these traps and loli

I love to suck cocks

>>734698394
Both positive and negative. Mostly negative.

I like to believe that one day religion won't be necessary because people will understand the truth of life. Right now, it's necessary because we live in a time of ignorance. Truth is occluded. We don't know who we are and so we fill that void with false notions of self-identity.

To believe that nature is apart from us, that there is an Us and a God which stands apart, to live in this dreamland of ego-selves, time-bound personas limited and small. This is the current era we live in and this is what our religions reflect.

>God loves everyone, except:

>>734699481
you

>>734698394
I've experienced religion-and by that, I mean I was born into a religious family, so my parents took me to church with them before I even knew enough to make my own decisions. Having said that, I have no problem with religious beliefs of any kind. What I do have a problem with is organized religions trying to convert people. I mean, if you're happy believing what you believe, why do you need more members? I understand members of a church talking to their family and friends about it and seeing if they're interested in learning more-that's just sharing something you're passionate about with the people you care about. But where I get confused is when members of a church start preaching to people they don't even know without provocation. Even worse, when higher ups and leaders of organized religions start making those religions send people out to actively try and convert people. And then, that fosters a view of absolute certainty of correctness. Anyone who doesn't believe what you believe is wrong, and must be 'saved' by your gospel, otherwise they're damned for eternity. I could go on about the bullshit I learned in church, but I feel like that would just turn into a rant

>>734698394
Its shit. Next question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsmyzC4AkFQ

basically this except i'm not mormon

>>734698394
every religion is fine
it's good if you're christian, buddhist, protestant, atheist, satanist, nazi etc. -


- just fuck islam

>>734702056
Ha! Never really liked South Park, but it has its moments. I like this.

>>734698394
Fucking sucks, religion is just a excuse for people to fight about what believes are better

>>734698394
Roman Catholics>>>

>>734698394
It's for keeping scared apes and mentally ill people from going full on retard. If you have a head on your shoulders and a healthy ego there's no need for it.

>>734698394

As Laplace said "‘I had no need of that hypothesis." But he may be watching.

It doesn't really do anything for me personally, but that doesn't mean I find it beyond possibility. As it stands we can do much to plot the course of existence, we have laws and theory and observation that governs existence, but anything that created it would have to be separate from it, and therefor be unquantifiable.

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religion is a human instinct. alot of people cant face the fact that life is just a mistake, and that nobody is here for a real reason.

>>734698394
Factually incorrect. Usually bad for people to, but not necessarily. Something we will grow out of in the next century.

Good for some dummies to "be good people" but ultimately a downfall for people to bend to their own agenda. Some of the biggest pieces of shit I've met are bible thumpers.

Until we stumble across life elsewhere, and that life presents its own theology, humans will be trapped in their own fear and turn to religion to come to terms with death.

Shockingly, even though there are hundreds of religions, -- past and present -- people have a very hard time putting 1 and 1 together, and realising that their pantheon/monotheistic god/s aren't made up like the other ones.

>>734703279

To add to this, a group of explorers discovered a tribe hidden in the jungle left untouched by law. The tribesmen had a belief that once someone died, they rose to the 'sky-god' (clouds), and once the clouds reached the end of their view (which they assumed was the end of the earth) that bodies were laid to rest.

It's a primal religion that probably is exactly what the very first religions were like on this earth. Really fascinating stuff. Of course the explorers introduced them to Christianity.

>>734703107
Pfft, I wish. As long as humans don't know the reason they exist, they will continue to look for one, and make things up to rationalize the fact that they're alive. I don't think there is a reason we're here. I think there was the big bang-or whatever your chosen theory is about how our universe came to be-and conscious, intelligent life was created as an anomaly in the process.

>>734703273
I think an unintended consequence of religion is it helps awful people shift the onus of their actions onto god who "has a plan" for them. It makes them even worse human beings and gives them very few incentives to improve themselves.

>>734703883
I always hated that 'God has a plan' and 'everything happens for a reason' shit. You're telling me you honestly believe that from the beginning of time, every single thing that's ever happened has been predetermined? What's the point of life then? If you're looking for meaning, that's not where you're going to find it

>>734698394
Pro religion, athiests are spergs who can't into basic ontology and teleology

Grew up in the Bible Belt for 15 years. That was enough for me to realize how destructive it is.

>>734704496

To be honest, the idea of living in a pre-determined universe isn't that much of a stretch to believe. All life must be connected somehow. I'm not talking about projected consciousness, either.

No one I talk with ever understands what I mean when I talk about being born human instead of something else. Just think about how many different life-forms there are on earth right now, and the odds of you being human. That alone is an impossibility come true; think of this now on a universal scale. Your consciousness is here and now in an unknown age on a rock in the self-proclaimed milky way.

Life's fucked up, basically. It must be predetermined in some way - on the large scale of things, we're nothing.

>>734704496
>What's the point of life then ?

Pre determination is a Mets level Christian theology thing that is only possible if you deny their being purgatory but believe in hell. It's just that God foresees all and those who cannot come into his light is something he already knew because he is omnipotent.

Pre determinism in general is pretty meta

Look, Anon, I need to tell you something because I don't know if I'll ever see you again.

I was an orphan. I grew up in Pennsylvania in a whorehouse. I read about Milton Hershey and his school in porno magazine or whatever crap the girls left by the toilet. And I read that some orphans had a different life there. I could picture it. I dreamt of it. Of being wanted. Because the woman who was forced to raise me would look at me every day like she hoped I would disappear. The closest I got to feeling wanted was from a girl who would make me go through her jons’ pockets while they screwed. If I collected more than a dollar, she’d buy me a Hershey bar. And I would eat it–alone–in my room, with great ceremony, feeling like a normal kid. It said “sweet” on the packet. It was the only sweet thing in my life.

>>734704496
All I know is shit heads will keep being shit heads if they can make themselves feel better by telling themselves god will forgive them. Also believing that your life is predetermined probably doesn't help personal development. You can just simply transfer any responsibility for your actions to an external force.

>>734704808
I actually know exactly what you mean. That's something I think about fairly often-the ridiculously tiny probability that I was born ME. A human, in my reality, in my universe, on my planet, in my country, etc. I don't discount the possibility that all life is connected in some way. I have my beliefs now, but that doesn't mean I won't listen to other ideas. In any case, yes. Life is fucked haha. Completely agree with you on that point. And it's crazy to think about just how tiny a blip we are on the timeline of existence. That shit is fascinating to me.

>>734706024

I doubt we'll ever find the answer but

If being born and entering consciousness ignores the flow of time, perhaps being born billions of years ago or billions of years into the future isn't an inconceivable thing.

Also whether there exists a planet in the universe where life didn't evolve dog-eat-dog; where perhaps they don't need to eat or drink. Fuck God when there are so many more important questions than whether some colossal celestial being came into a vacuum.

>>734706432
Well, I doubt we'll find it in any of our lifetimes. Hell, you may be right, and humans will die out before we ever know. But I definitely think we need to focus on the more important questions and learn as much as we can. I just wish I could live long enough to know it all

Convert to Islam and justify slayings of western infidels or go back to /pol/

>>734698674
This, same with politics