Black culture is ruining America. Prove me wrong.

>>734373932
define culture first.

>>734374067
MUH BITCHES BAD N BOUJEE COOKIN UP DOPE WIT AN UZI, MY NIGGAS SUM SAVAGE ROOFLESS WE GOT 30 N 100 ROUND 2!

>>734374157
But thats a good song

>>734373932
You're right and I can't prove you wrong.

>>734374220
Im just saying I think the acceptance of rap is what has caused so many whites to act like nigs. When I was growing up almost every white kid I knew would talk about how trash rap was. Now all the little kids are doing all the dances and posting videos of them dancing to the songs and shit.

>>734374483
Why shouldn't rap be accepted? It's just music my guy

>>734374483
Yea I listen to it, not main stream. I'm white grew up ghetto and make over 90k a year in IT in bmore.

America was never really that great, tho. At least people get to celebrate their heritage without being persecuted and shit. Try doing that in durkadurkastan or Europe. Just do you and forget black people, man. Life's to short to worry about colors and shit.

>>734373932
>implying black culture is ruining America. Ignores white power structures that reinforce racial divides to accumulate capital towards a select few

>>734375204
white power structures are the only ones that work.

>>734374661
>>734374856
Guys I like it too. I'm just saying it has influenced so many little kids to act like actual nigs. I went to school with so many middle class to upper class kids that just wanted to emulate that lifestyle so hard. It was to the point where they were getting locked up and doing drugs. I know this was done in the past as well but I feel like now if you tell your kids they can't listen to rap the SJW brigade will come in and call you a racist. It is much more accepted which results in more wiggers is the only problem I have.

>>734375443
>implying there hasn't been rampant inequality since the 80s due to the current capitalist establishment
>being told America is great to distract you from the fact that you have the lowest standard of living in the developed world
>being told you should blame blacks and immigrants while you vote against your own economic interests

>>734375204
>>734375443
>white power structure
pls explain.
My mayor is black, so is one of my congress women. Blacks make up only 10% of my state.

>>734373932
black culture is ruining blacks, the rest of us are gonna be fine.
Those ignorant people are going to keep themselves from being economically and socially viable and nobody else will ultimately suffer unless they allow the plague to spread. The only real risk is redistricting and housing shenanigans that forcefully relocates these subhumans into decent neighborhoods/schools.

>>734375759
You can't control others and Darwism awards need to be awarded. I know what you mean though. I joined the Marines and it changed me. To the point where I lost contact with all before the Corps and started anew. Used my GI Bill - now doing IT when I did Infantry. It can be done and your will needs to be there plus desire to be more than the masses.

>>734373932
nah, I think you're right

the gangsta rappers whose greatest feat in life to get rich or die tryin, or to pimp dem hoes, turned out to be the role models for a generation

>>734373932
Ya know I've been doing a little thinking recently so this is not a 100% fleshed out idea I am just throwing it out.

"Black Culture", is for my purposes here is ghetto culture, gangbanging etc.

I think the niggers have it right tbh, sure they have less money, more crime, more health issues etc. But I think they have got alot of things right, they can live without working soul crushing 9-5s, they fuck many different women, take alot of drugs and generally live alot closer to humanities original hunter gatherer state.

I have this neighbour, white married to a 4/10. He has a nice house, car you name it but this sod looks fucking miserable all the time. He gets up at 5.30am comes home at 7pm and his main joy in life is mowing his lawn. You hardly ever see a sad nigger gangster chilling with his boys doing fuck all.

>>734375982
capitalism is the only economic system that works.

>>734376605
sounds nice and all except the fact that its ruining society.

welfare, drugs, single mothers, etc. are a result of that lifestyle.

>>734376605
glad you can appreciate another view outside of your own anon.
here, we'll just ship them all to your neighborhood and you can watch these happy go lucky, jolly fuckheads rape your sisters/mothers/daughters, beat and rob your family, harass you daily as you go about your normal life, and eventually kill you for no goddamn reason whatsoever.
but you're right, having to deal with unpleasantness and responsibility just isn't worth it I guess.

>>734376605
> generally live alot closer to humanities original hunter gatherer state

that's sure to advance mankind

if only those idiots during the renaissance and the enlightenment tossed their ideas away, burned their houses, and went back to hunt and fuck in the woods.
I mean, sure we wouldn't have cars, TVs, flushing toilets, medicine, or food in goddamn groceries, but we'd just be so happy hunting for sure-to-be-found food and to sleep out in the dirt.

>>734376853
Its arguably ruining current non-nigger American society but their society seems to be flourishing despite the welfare, drugs and single mothers their population is increasing I just wish I could get hold of a study that showed the happiness levels between white collar workers and nigger gangbangers because I reckon the niggers would be happier.
.>>734377005
I wouldn't want them anywhere near me because a fact of human races means their will always be tribalism along racial lines, but if more white created their own version of black culture around me I might be happy.

>>734376853
>situates the destitute of African Americans within a narrative of a "lifestyle", while demoting the implications of systemic marginalization in relation to race and capital both within a historical and contemporary context

>>734375759
>I went to school with so many middle class to upper class kids that just wanted to emulate that lifestyle so hard

read up on the heroin epidemic

reminds me of those myspace gangstas in the days

it's amazing what TV can do to youth. and you thought your parents were overly strict for not letting you watch what all your friends were allowed to watch.

If you removed all the black people in the world would the world be objectively a better or more prosperous place? Like if you were really honest with yourself and looked at it objectively?

>>734377005
Yeah but there are always people that love to invent shit, love science and all that. More people adopting "Black Culture" if they enjoy it would not stop these innovators from pursuing their passions

what happened to this website

ppl standing up for niggers get it together /b/

>>734377413
yes

>>734377342
>big words strung together to sound intelligent

lefty spotted

>>734377342
seriously mate we know you are a troll NO ONE
with these views in on /b kek

>>734377413
yes, but i'd never want that to happen. met too many great black people to want it.

>>734377926
I can agree with that, that's why I stressed objectively.

>>734377810
So how come you didn't go to college?

>>734373932
You're right.

>>734377926
>>734378046
Also, whatever happened to poster ID's? It made it easy to know who's who, what were the cons that made it go away?

>>734378184
who says i didn't?

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>>734373932

Black culture is a symptom of our morally-bankrupt consumerist culture, but unless we begin investing a fuckton more in public education at all age levels, people's empty minds and interactions will continue to be filled by the parade of products that we're consistently bombarded about, and the propagation of social norms that encourage people to replace everything with something newer, more fun, baser, and more ethically relativist. Living in a world where society revolves around the idea of individualism and the unqualified promotion of all preferences and beliefs gives people nothing to rally around besides whatever is trendy in the moment

>>734377828
Nah I'm real. 2 masters degrees. I come here secretly to mingle with the filth.

>>734374220
You have shit taste in music if you think that's a good song.

>>734378938
Yeah this is the dude who was defending nigger culture earlier this consumerist part about their culture is one that I do hate and think is ruining alot of lives

>>734379170
Nah bro you won't find me defending black subculture

>>734378963
must be masters in gender studies

>>734379362
I teach the undergrads that end up employing you

>>734379275
No i was the dude defending it lmao

>>734379680
gender studies confirmed

white people stealing/appropriating black culture is what's ruining America. raise your fucking kids and stop blaming rap music

>>734380071
Here's what we'll do, White people will only use things made by white people, and black people will do the same. We'll do without mumble rap, how well will you do in a hut made of wicker and you're own shit?

>>734380221
your*

>>734379877
Listen. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to demean you or anything. You're a person with feelings and I need to respect that. I'm sorry.

>>734373932
Thats one factor.

But nothing is ever that simple. Theres a million factors.

Id blame the fact your politics have become so unbelievably commercialised, oligarchy is your government, and all your money has flowed to the top thanks to "trickle down economics" as a much bigger factor than black culture.

Also american black culture always confused me. I dont know how your black people got so terrible. Ours are cool af. I mean i have ideas but i wont get into it.

>>734380071
can black people please stop dying their hair blonde? you're appropriating my culture. can asian girls please stop using blue contacts? you're appropriating my culture. see how stupid the whole idea is?

>>734380071
sure, then blacks should give up everything created by the white man aka the devil. let's see how long that lasts.

>>734380607
yes, i do. asian chicks wearing blue contacts and black people dying their hair blonde is fucking retarded. the same as white girls wearing cornrows and getting collagen lip injections

>>734380537
trickle down economics is a myth.

capitalism is the only system that works, and the less regulated it is, the better.

>>734380071
K but.. I grew up in a upper middle class black neighbourhood where all the parents were rich and cool af and their kids listened to rap music and thought they were compton hood niggers and all tried to emulate their hip hop icons.

All talkin about how poor they were and how hard rhe hood was and shooting each other n shit.

Bruh.. Pretty sure rap music plays a big role when it comes to retarded teenagers trying to identify with something and be cool.

I have upstanding hard working family having co workers who used to live that life and are embarassed. They all admit it was about being the coolest and copying biggie smalls.

Dont be so blind

>>734380221
>>734380963
let's do it. blacks were doing fine before they interacted with white men

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>>734375982
Capitalism only works in the public interest if it's contained within an ethical framework. Things like vigorous antitrust, ethical consumer and worker protections, and an economic model where private gains are reasonably enjoyed by workers as well as executives are not natural to capitalism (they are socialist devices), but we see them as important parts of a sustainable capitalist model.

Our US system can we described as crony (or state) capitalism, where the owners and financiers in our economy have managed to entrench themselves by buying access to policymaking, and essentially privatize the economic gains for themselves while socializing their losses (see bailouts and corrupt contract acquisition processes). Beware the lawmakers who cry for cutting regulations and call themselves job creators, there's a reason they need to throw obscene sums of money at politicians to convince them to sing their tune - it's because the policy positions they want go against the public good, and no one would want to advocate them pragmatically

>>734381034
Maybe when the majority of the population is middle class or unable to communicate with each other.

If the middle class keeps shrinking and the internet is kept unregulated then less regulated Capitalism will lead to some sort of revolution. (it remains to be seem whether this is a good or bad thing).

>>734380607
>implying cultural appropriation has an indistinguishable effect regardless of the culturea involved, willfully ignoring political and social power dynamics and the historical roots of mondern racial stratification

>muh negroid boogeyman

Black culture isn't what ruins countries. It's the non-black assholes who embrace it because it's "cool" and "edgy" without understanding what it means or what the implications are. Try wearing a red armband with a swastika on it and saying Nazi culture is "totally in right now" without embracing the racist components and see where that gets you. It's the same thing, except black thugs kill black citizens so nobody cares.

>>734381034
I think we agree on more than you seem to think...

Trickle down economics IS a myth.
And capitalism is wonderful. I love it. A lot.

But no system is perfect and no system works all the time. And one of the main things that makes capitalism work is fair distribution of wealth. Well when youre cutting taxes like crazy to the ultra rich because theyll "create jobs" the thing is, they dont. They just suck all the money up and leave less to go around and to spend for the middle class.

And without a lot of people spending money all the time, businesses fail.

>>734373932
Niggers ruin everything they touch, so it's impossible to prove you wrong.

>>734374920
America has always been great. You just have the urge to say stupid shit that your liberal history teachers spew.

>>734381131
that's where the "raise your kids" part comes into play. it's up to the parents to make sure that their children can separate their actual reality and what they're listening to/watching on tv

>>734381157
Yeah they were only about a thousand years behind. Rome was building cities, Africa was and still is living in huts, and don't even try that Egypt bullshit, Big huge difference between Egyptians and Niggers.

>>734375204
>says shit that can't be proven.
>cuck

>>734375982
Socialism doesn't work sooooo

>>734373932
>implying America has culture
>implying 13% of the population is ruining it

Womp womp.

>>734373932
>Black culture has ruined America.

Not proving you wrong, just fixing your error.

>>734381477
How old are you?
If youre over 25, find me a teenager who listens to everything mommy and daddy says and doesnt care about being cool or liked by his peers, and ill show you a socially maladjusted person whos going to have trouble later.

Teens are stupid and rebellious by nature. Most of them will find pop icons and role models themselves and do what their peers do.

And if black culture is only depicted by the media as violence and basketball, well most black kids are gonna get into violence and basketball.

>>734381303
>and the companies that call themselves job creators
Added something I left out, if anyone's even reading itt

>>734381303
People don't understand that capitalism and the "free market", if unchecked, would inevitably lead to companies selling you aflaroxin-covered foodstuffs in permeable cardboard boxes off of immigrant-run food carts found in one location in your particular city or town at hundreds of dollars a pop. Safeguards are the only thing that keep the system from running off the rails. Anyone who thinks people act in the interest of others without incentives or laws forcing them to do so are annoyingly dense and have never reflected on their own behaviors.

>>734381303
capitalism is ethical. crony capitalism is not capitalism. pure capitalism aka free market capitalism is the most ethical system.

"Things like vigorous antitrust, ethical consumer and worker protections, and an economic model where private gains are reasonably enjoyed by workers as well as executives are not natural to capitalism (they are socialist devices), but we see them as important parts of a sustainable capitalist model."

these things have absolutely no place in capitalism. absolute garbage.

>>734381529
you're right, because Egypt isn't in Africa. and you should probably do some (non-Fox News-based) research if you sincerely believe Africa was thousands of years behind Europe in the 1700's

>>734381417
cutting taxes is positive. period. doesn't matter for who.

>>734382124
Nice try Reagan.

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>>734381529
This is sierra leone. This is according to the HDI the worst poorest country in the world. It is in africa. I dont see any mudhuts.

I got another picture for ya hold up.

>>734381915
that's not true. a free market means unlimited competition. companies simply could not fuck over the consumers because there's multiple other companies people can buy from.

>>734382050
They were living in huts, and they still live in huts. You can blame the white devil all you want but even slavery was rampant before whitey ever set foot looking or labor.

>>734373932
replace black with the more generic "inner city" and you're right

>>734382216
reagan cut taxes without cutting spending. that's a no no. still, the fact that he cut taxes was a positive.

>>734382413
Uh huh, and what keeps these companies from strategizing behind closed doors with each other to artificially set prices? That's what happens, anon. You can put all the laws you want in place to stop it, but if it's kept in the shadows well enough, you'll never be able to prove it in court.

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>>734382281
Guess the white man is responsible for this aswell? The Cities in Africa were put there by whites, and once they leave the niggers just ruin it.

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>>734382281
These are the sami. They live in Sweden, according to the hdi, one of the best most advanced countries in the world. Its an older picture but they still exist. They are nomadic indigenous swedes. And they are white.


See what happens to your brain and concept of reality when journalists pick and choose what to show you?

Africa has been past mudhuts for a long ass time. But there are and always will be indigenous tribes in the old ways. You will find them in any country.


But when sally struthers and help africa funds want money they will show you mud huts with their backs turned to the city skyline and say "this is what all of africa is all the time."

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>>734381953
>capitalism is ethical
Wrong, nitwit. Compared to what, socialism? Profit motive is the reason companies ship jobs overseas, cut corners with worker and product safely, lobby to pay workers less, justify negative externalities like pollution, etc. If you want a purer form of capitalism, look to the early 20th century in the US, or 19th century in the UK. If you knew half as much about how capitalism works as you put on, I doubt you would make such a bold claim.

>>734381811
24 actually. i am very aware of the rebellious nature of most teenagers, but that doesn't mean their parents can't instill values into them that deter them from "ruining the country". if parents depict violence and basketball as two routes that their kids DON'T have to take, then they most likely won't. being black, being raised in black culture, and having a mother who instilled such concepts into me & my siblings, has allowed me to see this argument from multiple angles

>>734382281
NIGGER, I SEE ALL KINDS OF CONCRETE AND SHANTI'S, CONCRETE IS IS JUST MUD THAT HARDENS.

>>734382669
Look at Zimbabwe. Whites built it, maintained it and then were kicked out. Soon begged back when the black folks were down to eating rats.

>>734381953
>implying free market capitalism didn't create near slave like conditions prior to the employment of socialist devices to protect workers rights and halt monopolies that victimize consumers
>not knowing the origins of minimum wage, the weekend, unemployment insurance, and other countless "socialist" gains that free market capitalism tried to eradicate

>>734377363
people are going to make life choices regardless of what influences them, that is the pursuit of happiness

and to discriminate music for your precious youths based on the creator's skin color is prejudiced; tell me, what is black culture? and by what authority can you say that black culture is worse than yours? what gives you that power? not the constitution

>>734382281
NIGGER I SEE CONCRETE AND SHANTI'S. CONCRETE IS JUST MUD THAT HARDENS.

>>734382726
>>734382921
This. People who fellate capitalism like it's the golden road to utopia like to forget that pure capitalism is what allowed drug companies to market heroin to children and exploit slave labor. And bof those things still exist, albeit in neutered ways. These people think that unabated capitalism magically makes people forget about their own self interests and became the type of altruistic demigods that only exist in myth.

>>734382908
Yeah countries sure do go to shit when the government is overthrown and civil wars break loose and no one can win because foreign powers keep arming different factions to push their own political agendas causing a stalemate in the natural power struggle for stable government that every developed nation has gone through itself.


Amazing how not simple anything at all is isnt it. Whether were talking about race or anything really.

There are no simple answers to anything.

>>734382281
Also what did African cities look like in the 1700's? When white people were exploring the world? Or lets go back to say Ancient Rome. They were building the Colosseum, what were Africans building?

>>734383010
Actually free speech #1 on the constitution give me the right to judge what ever the fuck i want , then give my opinion, But its' a double edge sword , because you have to accept the consequences if you abuse your rights.

TRUMP

>>734382726
Not parent, but Capitalism is the most ethical economical system ever developed. It removes boundaries and allows for vertical movement. Pretending that any other system that has ever been tried is better is insane.

Also as for your justifying negative externalities like pollution, there are methods for which this is taken care of. The greatest power in capitalism is in the consumer, if the consumer base cares enough about something it will eventually have to happen.

>>734383322
>>734383322
i understand free speech.

what do you think is a tenable solution? if it's legislation, i think it would be discriminatory legislation. if you don't care about legislation, then your just complaining. let people be different and make their own choices lol

>>734383225
Actually the 1700s were very shortly after the fall of the mali empire of west africa in the 1600s.

They were a great civilisation, capitalist and world trader. China still has some of their currency. Pro tip: Chinas far for 1600. They wouldnt waste their time trading with your vision of africa.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire

Inb4 hurr they fell though. So did rome, that great nation you quoted in the first place. To barbarians.

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>>734382892
>>734383019
>Samefag.

>>734383225
cities made from gold. Look up Mansa Musa. given, he wasn't during the Roman Empire, but he was before the 1700's

>>734383483
this is true but not really in relationship to America

if you think we have a free market you are just factually wrong lol

>>734383209
Mugabe threw out the white farmers, swore they'd never return, and then everyone ended up eating rats and Mugabe had to beg them back. Fairly simple.

>>734383193
>These people think that unabated capitalism magically makes people forget about their own self interests and became the type of altruistic demigods that only exist in myth.
I think you don't understand the point to be had here. The fact that everyone IS looking out for their own self interests is what makes capitalism great. That makes the society naturally move in the direction of what is in the best interest for the majority of people.

>>734382611

if they did that, another company would come along, set their prices lower and force prices down.

infinite competition.

>>734383657
Funnily enough i'm playing EU4 and Mali is Castilian Guinea. Fucking Timbuktu is a pain in the ass though.

>>734377810
>We have the best words

>>734378938
/Thread

>>734373932
Black culture is American culture yo u faggot

>>734373932
Blacks have no culture
wrong status: proved.

>>734383713
Haha I do not

The thing I never get is how some people don't understand that regulations can be BENEFICIAL for businesses already in those sectors. As much as oil companies, for example, complain about the heavy burdens placed on them, it equally reduces outsiders getting into that market. Regulations often lead to monopolies because they naturally reduce competition.

>>734373932
Seems appropriate actually.

>>734383483
Jesus what a moron, although I'm not sure what I expected coming on /b/ to argue politics and economics. I started texting another reply but I'm not even sure you understand what I'm typing at a 10th grade level

>>734383851
Spoken like someone who has no idea what it takes to establish a company, make deals with vendors, create a customer base out of thin air, and maintain on a daily basis.

What would prevent that company from jumping in on the scam? What would prevent the other companies from buying them off? These are the things that happen TODAY, right now.

It will always be cheaper for the new startup to just get bought out.

>>734377810
>smaller vocabulary than my opponent's, therefore his argument is invalid

>>734382726
>Profit motive is the reason companies ship jobs overseas

wouldn't be those incentives in a free market.

>cut corners with worker and product safely

wouldn't happen in a free market.

>lobby to pay workers less

wouldn't happen in a free market.

>justify negative externalities like pollution

pollution is even worse in non-capitalist countries. the more regulation, the worse the pollution.

>>734383816
This is the most naive comment I've ever read on this forum. Congrats.

>>734382921
1. it didn't.
2. i know the origins, and i know they were wrongfully implemented.

Since when did America have culture?

>>734381536
>Calls someone a cuck
>Cuck

>>734384166
Good rebuttal faggot.

>>734384120
Please explain, and be specific

>>734373932
>America ruined black culture
FTFY

>>734381303
Thank you anon, so few actually understand this and I guarantee you will have people argue it, but it's 100% true.

Once the majority get this through their thick distracted skulls, we may actually be able to do something about it.

>>734384073
Go ahead, even if it's a pile of shit it would still be significantly better than your argument there.

>>734384046
Of course regulations can be beneficial, they are made to be. Point being that outsiders to the business(es) pushing the legislation often are pushed out of the market (ie, a monopoly). in effect with the legislation, various personal(corporate) entities benefit directly, and not others, and that market isn't free, it is suited for the corporate entity responsible for the legislation.

>>734384097
>What would prevent that company from jumping in on the scam? What would prevent the other companies from buying them off? These are the things that happen TODAY, right now.

unlimited competition. can't buy everyone out. things like this aren't happening today, but they could because we don't have a free market.

>It will always be cheaper for the new startup to just get bought out.

no it wouldn't. the profit they'd make if they were the only company selling at reasonable prices would be insane.

>>734384784
promoting local business helps with this, encourages competition and market circulation in your sphere of influence.

international mogul businesses are what really made the market stale. combined with mass marketing, profit is increased and wages are cut, strengthening the divide between the poor and the rich

>>734384784
Good luck trying to give the vendors a better deal, as a startup, than the megarich conglomerates that currently run the hypothetical markets.

>>734384341
companies go overseas because of regulations that make it more expensive to operate/manufacture in their home country. since a free market has no regulations, there would be no incentive in the first place.

if a company cut corners, they'd lose business and workers. unlimited competition.

lobbying wouldn't exist in a free market.

pollution is worse in non-capitalist countries. that's a fact, backed up by research.

>>734384299
since slavery was abolished, black people started doing things like jazz/rock n' roll/etc., and the white man started copying them for economic profit

>>734385114
it's possible to compete, for sure. i've seen it done personally. isn't what you are saying exactly the type of stuff they would want you to hear?

i encourage innovation and risk investment, it's healthy and creative

>>734374920
no one wants or expects the black/white race war in america currently when they first move into as bigger city, its like a naive child moving into this warzone of racial tension and they dunno wt6f is going on when out of nowhere blacks glare at you all day long while passing you in the street, in a place where genuinely 95%+ of murders and crimes are commited by blacks and where the black community also coincides entirely with the poor and uneducated communiuties, where 60-80 percent of black guys you see everyday are sketchy, angry looking poor degenerates who are extremely racist and having them routinely put you in danger or scream at you on the street for being white or screaming in the train that they're going to murder all the white people (just yesterday had another one of those) stalk you at night, try to mug you etc race eventually starts to play a big role in your life as the issues thast come with it punch you in face every damn day

everyone would like to just not think about it and celebrate freedom, but old grudges bleed through the centuries and people will literally fight to death to defend their deluded opinions about their persecution complexes and their hatred of cerrtain groups

that was longwided as fuck i must be stoned

>>734375982
Kill yourself, Che Guevara

>>734385114
infinite competition. not every company is going to band together, and if they did, nothing is stopping anyone from starting their own.

its a very simple concept.

>>734385232
this

on a nice Saturday morning I like to sit down in my bed and think about my cultural upbringing. I fondly remember playing Coppers shoot the Indians with my brothers, getting out of school and buying my father a bottle of beer and cigarettes. Ah. good times.

>>734385464
wow, out of curiosity, how old are you and what state are you from?

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>>734373932
I'm black

and you are 100% right. But it's nigger "culture" Not black culture. I assume you meant that.

>>734385464
it was sarcasm and i was lying but you can imagine i was referencing manifest destiny era generations and our culture of conquerin-er, discovering land, war, political nepotism

>>734385719
This.

Obama is a Black man.

Lil Yachty is a nigger. There's a big huge difference between the two.

>>734386003
lmao gotcha. and yeah, i was wondering because you admitted I was right, but seemed to be so aware of the exact things you just listed...threw me for a loop

>>734386227
yeah, i mean the market would pick up on what is socially attractive, i.e. jazz, etc.

>>734383010
>>>734377363 (You)
>people are going to make life choices regardless of what influences them, that is the pursuit of happiness
1. kids aren't likely to just come up with certain behaviors unless they are exposed to it (model of behaviors)
see miley cyrus: twerking. there's probably other examples
2. my point has nothing to do with the pursuit of happiness, but everything to do with models of behavior.

>and to discriminate music for your precious youths based on the creator's skin color is prejudiced
I'm not discriminating the music on the basis of the skin color. I'm discriminating on the basis of the message it sends. glorifying irresponsible sex, guns, violence; contempt for learning, education, or hard work; seeking a shortcut or quick way to get rich without working; and to say it has no influence on the people who listen to it is irresponsible. look at today's generation. listen to the language they spew out when they commit crimes (or when they joke amongst themselves at school). does it sound familiar to you at all? where do you think they heard it? not from the brady show I bet not. and certainly not from their white middle class neighborhood parents or neighbors. this didn't exist 30 years ago except in the hood.

>> tell me, what is black culture?
black culture is what black people make it. MLK and 50's civil rights movement made it something respectable. even obama was decent even though he never mentioned much about race. gangsta rappers like 50 cent and 2pac, with their arrest records and drug use, aren't advancing the culture. if black people think those should be the ones to emulated rather than MLK or obama, they're not going to advance

>>734385719
>creating a harmful dichotomy between "black" and "nigger", where conforming to oppressive white structures is greeted with admiration while any dissent, resistance, display of individualality or outright maladaptive behaviour created by marginalization and poverty is instantly criminalized without any crirical thought and dismissed as "thugish"

>>734383010
ctd

>> and by what authority can you say that black culture is worse than yours?
not by authority, by observation. some of it you can't help (genetics, poverty, racism). the only solution is a concerted effort to emulate the japanese during the meiji restoration and try to learn, emulate, and improve. you can stay segregated like the jews and still pull it off. it's a matter of right goal and right effort.

>>what gives you that power? not the constitution
don't toss the constitution in this. it has nothing to do with it.

>>734386645
then teach your kids to have dignity for themselves. how you react is entirely up to you, and everybody else to themselves

i will concede, various swathes of black fathers have something to answer for, but so do white fathers. what makes drug use and hedonistic, ignorant behaviour have anything to do with specifically black behavior?

what do you think the message of almost the entirety of rock music is, if it isn't "fuck it, do drugs, live free"? the arts, literature, music, and culture are direct responses to pain and environment, and to say that various artist's subject matter is indicative of the general cultural "quality" of his/her race is entirely specious and ungrounded

>>734373932
jews are actually, black people were ruined by their propaganda and turned into racist mongrels

now they are doing it to whites and taking over western civilization

this may be your last chance

>>734386928
refer to my original question, you've made your assertion; what do you think is a tenable solution?

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>>734375982
nigga u dun no wat da fuk u talkin bout

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>>734386928
>implying genetics is a viable and testable marker of the culture of a group, where complex human thoughts and processes become reduced to pseudo scientific social darwinist principals that have largely been debunked within the modern synthesis of human biology, an idea that hasn't held a prominent place in the US scientific community since the publishing of the "passing of the great race" in the 1920s

>>734376605
this isn't true??????? this is what happens when young white autistic people get exposed to rap music. they think all blacks are like that when in reality they're way more pathetic.

source: i grew up in a 40% black neighborhood