Daily reminder that fascism is not typified by economic socialism or racism alone, nor is it espoused by anyone in the current political establishment, nor is it simply "anyone I don't like". Fascism is an authoritarian centrist political ideology typified by mixed markets, nationalism, militarism and anti-democratic sentiment.
Please do not call liberals fascists.
Please do not call conservatives fascists.
Please do not call communists fascists.
Please do not call libertarians fascists.
None of them are fascists, and none of them are particularly liked by fascists.
>>734192291
What's it called when you think only scientists should be in positions of power? I'm that.
>>734192443
That's called technocracy, and while it's not my cup of tea, at least you don't think democracy works.
>>734192443
theocracy
>>734192291
What's wrong? Did /pol/ hurt your feewings?
Autism has become an epidemic.
>>734192291
I think we can all agree that Trump's tenure as pres had shown significantly more fascist tendencies than conservative ones. His rule may not qualify as "pure" fascism, but he comes damn close.
7 replies later op hasn't said shit. SAGE.
>>734192703
He lacks the militarism and the anti-democracy aspects. Also, arguably, the mixed markets.
He's not a fascist, he's just a nationalistic conservative.
>>734192508
There should also be some kind of psychological, ethics, and intelligence profile test for anybody wanting to govern or police. Full-proofing your leaders through several levels of testing before the get to positions of power. They have to be the best, brightest, and most well-intentioned. Elections are immoral because they can be paid for, and your intelligence and ability to govern has nothing to do with how much money you have.
>>734192837
>>734192703
Also, I'm not criticizing the man. Nationalistic conservative is still better than third-worldist conservative or third-worldist liberal, our other options, but he's by no means good enough and he's by no means a fascist.
Fascists """like""" Trump because he was the best of available options. He's a stopgap.
>>734192837
Trump is whatever Fox News tells him to be that day.
>>734192966
will the real donald trump please stand up?
>>734192966
>actively attacks media
>hurr durr he does what the media tells him too
>>734192291
This is actually a really good political post. A lot of people on here have been using the word fascist wrong so it's good to see OP clearing it up.
It's also high time we start reasoning with people, instead of calling them names like "fascist", "liar", or "cuck."
>>734193065
He watches 3 hours of Fox News every day.
>>734192898
I actually don't disagree with you in principle. The problem is that in such a system you're basically instituting literal bureaucracy, rule by the Cathedral.
Bureaucracy really sucks as an actual system of governance.
>>734192966
Good boomerpost.
>>734193095
source?
>>734193219
You don't know that Trump likes Fox & Friends?
Some fan you are.
>>734193129
The beauty is that bureaucracy would be streamlined because ways of governing efficiently would develop because of a universal allegiance to science. Any problems with bureaucracy would be eliminated by applying the scientific method to every aspect of society.
Imagine a completely science literate society. It's just beautiful.
>>734192898
the problem is that the current people in power don't want to be required operate ethically and anyone who manages to topple a regime is not going to give their power up readily either.
the problem isn't so much devising a better system it's getting it implemented, because the people in power don't want the power restructured.
>>734193976
pitchforks and nooses
>>734194066
will you pass an ethics screening if you use pitchforks and nooses?
you are not a solution your a re-fried problem. so fucking sick of eating leftovers.
>>734193679
Science and empiricism is a way of finding out facts about the physical world. It isn't an ideology in itself, it's a method.
Politics is about value sets, moral principles, and desired outcomes as much as it is about bare economics or bare empiricism.
>>734194274
Vote
Also when you unify as a nation and take down your government when you all know it's wrong, it works.
>>734194293
You find the data that tells to which methods of governing yields the highest standard of living and you implement that at all times.
>>734194425
What do you actually desire for the people, though? Do you want them regimented, productive, and nationalistic? Do you want them to be idle, hedonistic consumers? Do you want them to be actively interested and involved in the runnings of the country (good luck)?
Do you value GDP? Happiness? War-readiness? Birthrate? Demographic composition? Education, and in what?
wow
You're absolutely right. thanks.
I'd love to find a new word for call people who are authoritarian
>>734194379
it hasn't worked very well anywhere in hundreds if not thousand of years
>>734194425
how do you discover new, better ways of living if you only implement the best ways that were available in the past at all times?
>>734192443
>What's it called when you think only scientists should be in positions of power?
Aspergers
>>734194562
Call them authoritarians, or if you want one to make them angry, bootlickers.
I like to respond that boots taste pretty great when they're covered in commie tears, but most people don't know that one.
>>734192291
Yeah but Trump is a Nazi
leftists gonna leftist https://youtu.be/BFjEzNTxxYg