Drug rate thread?

>>734134779
Nice buds but the blunt ruins it

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>>734134779
7/10, helping me stay off other drugs when i wanna kill time and it's helping my appetite. rate this trash here, pic related

>>734134779
Drugs are bad for your health

>>734135278
Ruined life/10

>>734135777
i've used it 4 times in my life and think it's fucking garbage. adderall is better

>>734135865
guess what this is. yellowish crystals that stick together slightly and when crushed produce a ton of powder.

>>734135953
Agreed

>>734136078
prescription stims are the best imo, meth isn't even fun, and you can feel how toxic it is as soon as it kicks in + the comedown is 100x worse than any other drug i've tried. i can see how some people get addicted with no self control but this trash isn't even worth it.

thoughts on xanax

got to say i enjoy it recreationally

>>734135235
Agreed

Blunts are for mids

>>734136057
Molly
While I've gotten yellow molly before, the stuff I get now is pink

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I usually roll my own but I got this as a freebie

For me honestly weed is my fav, its "harmless", you're not gonna do some stupid shit like run naked down a street if you smoke a blunt, kinda cheap, helps me sleep, get rid of headaches, blah blah.

Other drugs I enjoy tho:

Xanz in small amounts. Quarter or half a bar cause Im a pussy but smoking with it makes me chill af.

I tried morphine once (30 mg pill) and I smoked a lot and it was so dope. I liked it, I remember I went to Lowe's with my roomate while high af cause he needed to pick up some shit lol.

LSD. I love tripping balls but I respect it a lot. Ive only tripped like 4 or 5 times. I do it maybe once or twice a year. Its badass.

Shrooms are dope too, I like how theyre less intense than LSD and I feel like you can control it more. For me I can't go in public if Im tripping on LSD but I can if Im on shrooms

I don't like uppers that much but vyvanse is good for studying I guess, other than that I don't like uppers.

#TeamWeed

I prefer weed over other drugs

>>734137539
9/10 it's a good all around drug for comedowns, sleep, anxiety and mixing with other drugs too
>>734137854
nope
>hint: it's used in medicine and comes from asia

LSD is a 9/10 in my opinion

It only loses one point because of the awful tolerance, I wish I could trip for days in a row

>>734138434
Damn man I'm stumped... is it ice??

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Some of my old bluepower. Grown indoor, 1000w HPS between 4, all organic ammendments.
Can't smoke now as i have hypoglycemia from alcohol, ciggeretes, cannabis, and a shitty diet of 1 meal a day.

>>734139471
ketamine

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>>734139818
Some of it still growing

>>734139285
take a 5 strip and you'll be good for a solid 18 hours

>>734139858
how come its yellow

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100g hash, 160€

>>734134779
kek your buds look like a flacid dick

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New zong sister got me that i can't can't smoke out of...

>>734139818
Is growing your own bud expensive? I've been saving up so I can move to Washington, and I've considered growing to save money.

>>734139858
Ohhhh, that was going to be my next guess after heroin

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>>734140223
Outdoors no
(Pic related) costs about $250 for supplies on 6 plants with amendmets that last me 3-4 grows, only con is seasonal growing. You plant in spring, harvest during fall.

Indoors, yes. About $800 a month on PG&E bill per 1000w light. I was paying about $1,100 a month on electricity every month.
Though, only in california.

>>734139987
impurities. got it from a different source a while ago

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>>734140577
Some cookies and cream

Here is some bluepower outdoors

>>734140616
haven't done ket properly before how much would you recommend to get fucked up

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>>734140577
If you have 1 plant how much weed would you get per a grow.

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Any shroomfags here?

>>734140895
About 6 pounds which equates to 12k a plant at 2k a pound and that's cheap.

>>734140223

Belgian dude here (we are the biggest providers of weed for the Netherlands), be careful mate. I always compare it with having fish in a pond. It's super easy to have a couple of fish, you put them in the water, give them some food and they're alright. It's the same with weed: it's super easy to grow it. They're family of nettles, nettles grow everywhere. These days we even have Cannabis that grows outdoors in nordic climates. But this shit isn't worth cash. Then you get into koi, tansho's, Kohaku's, etc. Again; it's the same with weed. You start investing more and more, and get more and more gains.

You won't make money, probably save money at first... And then you realise you can make 10x the money you earn at your working job.

then you buy a house in nature.

Then you get acres.

Life's good.

>>734140807
start with bumps. some K will get you rekt after a few whereas this yellow shit took several lines

>>734140577
Thanks for the info mate, I'll start look further into growing outdoors.

>>734140223
And ow yeah, if you just want to grow some shit and test out your own first home grown stuff: 50-70 bucks for 2-3 plants in the beginning.

750 euro for 8-12 stable plants that will offer you 150g each.

Go figure.

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Some death star kush .

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>>734140895
It depends. How big is it?
One plant could get me anywhere from 2 ounces to a lbs. Typically a 6 footer like my sincity OG would do up to 1/2lbs, but my bluepower same size would do about 1/3lbs.
I don't weigh but as i could get 6 jars full on estimate (pic of jar)

I'm a newbie to drugs in general, I have got myself 2g of weed, I know it's good quality because two blunts shared between five of us had people getting stupid high. What I wanna know is what are the basics I need to know about weed? What's the best method to take it, storage tips or anything tbh. Share your wisdom here

Anything psychedelic is 10/10 for me. I dose at least once a week on them.

Weed is alright but it stays forever in a person's system which is terrible for me. 5/10

Fuck stimulants. 0/10

Opiates are my addiction. 10/10 when im in the middle of it but fuck.

Benzos are 1/10
Just a shitty drug to get high on. Only good for and extreme freak out on psychs.

>>734141350
Storage , get a jar that is smell proof. Makes it easy to store and not have the smell of weed. Bongs get you fucked alot faster than joints and blunts. What else do you need to know?

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>>734141335
Pis is of a different cookies and cream

>>734138145
you would do shrooms and LSD before even trying a full xanax?
xans are possibly the best pharmaceutical human have ever created

>>734138145
There's actually a ton of people who end up in psych wards from weed....

>>734141503
I figured baggie alone wasn't working when my closet started smelling of it, so I'll find a glass jar cheers.
So what method gives most bang of buck, bongs? And do edibles really get people as high as they say it does?
Oh and was £20 a decent price?

>>734135278
I'm loading a fat ass bell ringer right now,

>>734141680
Kek. The most addictive yes. Fuck xanex though, seen ALOT of people ruin their lives on it and move to stronger drugs with it

>>734141798
20 for 2 grams is standard. Bang for you buck is bong . Gets you really high fast and on small amounts. Joints and blunts use alot more weed and don't even get you as high . And for sure , get a smell proof glass jar at most smoke shops. They work amazing and are a great storage for weed

>>734141905
Enjoy your health problems and the crash

>>734139888
>>734140577
>>734140691

Mmmm, beauties. Excellent work anon, very happy and healthy. (if this isnt just pasta)

>>734141995
I'm used to it

>>734140921
Yeah. You like making tea or eating them whole?

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>>734142055
Nope. Just a green thumb after 6 years of hard work
People assume it's a money making drug, it really isn't. I just grow and smoke.
Here is some sinmint cookies im running. Hopefully my hypoglycemia clears up so i can smoke it after harvest in fall.

>>734136283
Prescription opiates/opiods are better too. Fucked my life up tho im 5 years clean and its still a battle.

>>734141985
Is it worth mixing with tobacco when you smoke it or just learn to deal with trying not to cough each time?
And now I'm gonna sound autistic but do you just get any old rolling paper and filters from an off licence?

>>734141968
I second. You get addicted to benzos and come off of them cold turkey that's a possible death.

Back when I was on them people would steal from me and thought I was too fucked up to notice on them.

I would rob and just be a really shitty person on them.

I stay far away now unless I need 1 mg for psychedelics.

>>734139818
Thats beautiful.

>>734142253
The longer you stay sober the easier it is to stay that way, I've been sober for 3 days other than weed. I gotta go but good luck anon

>>734141686
This. I have ongoing psychosis because of weed.

>>734142253
Same here man. I keep getting clean and going back to them. I started when I was 11 taking oxy almost every day. Im 26 now and I can't seem to kick them.

>>734141350

Air tight jars when you have small amounts are best (glass jar from the supermarket will do), weed is one of the worst smelling drugs. If you're moving it wrap it 10 times and rinse it a little bit with baby-powder (it's made to disguise the smell of shit, go figure).

We Belgians and Dutch smoke spliffs, bit of tobacco and lots of weed. I never see blunts/bongs over here except when I'm at hippy/nigger places.

Spliffs are the way to go imo. But I'm also a smoker so the nicotine rush is a pro for me, biased opinion.

>>734142327
If you smoke tobacco, sure put some in. You can out tobacco in Bong tokes or in Joints to save a bit of weed. I quite like it since it gives me the nice buzz . And what do you mean for the paper? Most papers you can get for 1£ will almost always do the trick

>>734142352
I know the pain, quit alcohol cold turkey after just 1 year of drinking a pint and 80oz of beer every day, and had DT's. Everything you could google except hallucinations i had, including a terrible seizure. Turns out benzos and alcohol have similar withdrawls that are deadly as fuck.

>>734142175
I prefer eating them whole. The taste isn't that bad. How about you?

How about you lowlife faggots man up and face life without drugs?

>>734141798
Yes edibles get you very very high, but knife hits get you wayyyyyyy higher

>>734142175
>>734140921
Fuck yeah guys, liquid alcohol extraction, full potency little to drink, no stomach ache

>>734142738
How about mind your own life?

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>>734142439
Damn, I've been smoking everyday for 8 years and didn't shit happen to me, quit cold turkey before i quit alcohol and nothing happend, after 8 years!
1 year of drinking gave me a seizure during withdrawls.

>>734141680
Wew lad. I had to withdraw from methadone and as bad as that was i would kms before withdrawing from any benzos.

>>734142631
Yeah I have friends I've lost to alchoholism. I stopped drinking because all my drinking partners left. Just became to depressed to always drink alone.

>>734142727
Honestly after I did them 6 times I tried tea for the first time, and it was great. No weird feeling of being sick/I'll for the come up and still have a great trip. I've been making tea since and haven't gone back to eating them

>>734142239

is that an air pot? always sounded like a good idea, never tried one though

>>734142602
I don't smoke normally so don't have a rolling paper and need to get some, just checking there wasn't some need for thicker ones or anything. And I might get tobacco just for the weed, it goes down smoother.
>>734142754
The fuck is a knife hit

>>734142402
Keep ur head up man.

>>734142915
Interesting. Perhaps I should also look into making tea. Can you tell if there is a difference in the duration or intensity of the trip between eating and drinking?

>>734143003
Don't worry about a knife hit. It's greasy and works terrible. But he is right about edbiles , they do get you high , but it's more of a body high instead of a head high. For papers just buy them anywhere really and they should all do the trick

>>734142995
GREAT investment! I prefer it better the the ground to be honest.

>>734142540
Yea its def tough. I went the methadone route and even tho it sucked, it let me learn to live without the pills for the 2 years i was on it. The withdrawal is way worse tho so im conflicted whether its worth it or not.

>>734142793
I would if I didn't have to pay taxes that pay for your rehab after your "just enjoy life, man" attitude blows back in your face, and after that you still beg for my change on the street. If you're not stuck in some psychiatric home that I'm still paying for.

>>734140577
NIGGA ARE YOU SAYING YOU PAY NEARLY 1$ A KW HOUR ?

Cocaine is alot of fun...

>>734143181
The only thing i ever noticed is that after you drink the tea, don't take a piss for a bit. I've had a few times were I drank the tea and pissed not long after and noticed the peak wasn't as long . But in terms of effects tea and eating are pretty similar to me

>>734143262
Complain to someone who gives a fuck sissy.

>>734143209
What's the difference between body and head highs?
Also do you guys prefer getting very high or just a little, because at partys it's fun to be a little high but at home with housemates I like getting too high to do anything more than make toast.

>>734143262
You know your taxes would be the same regardless right? Gubment isnt giving you a refund if they close the rehabs.

>>734143225
Im on "Subutex" but I rarely take them and just sell them to pay for all the other opiates that I love. Last week I went cold turkey....today I fell off again. I got kids, home, car, etc etc. But im still fucking around. I don't know what it's going to take.

>>734143420
Just OD already, you narcissistic, pathetic cunt.

>>734143488
Same for me i guess. If im out with a lot of people i like to be able to hold down a conversation but if im just chillin at home with a few friends then fuck it ill get rekt.

>>734143333
Well, 800+ 300 in home appliances. (It costs more the more you use) it wasnt this bad till late 2014 when PG&E doubled electricity in californa.

>>734143520
I'd rather my taxes go to something else than weak people that knowingly choose to be leeches on everyone else.

>>734142080
1/10 what the fuck did he even trim off the leaves at all

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chase the dragon faggots

Heroin is god-tier if you dont have an addictive personality and the self-control of a golden retriever puppy.

>>734143562
I'm hurt also I pay more in taxes than you do.

>>734143488
Head high is like that feeling of being high. Body Is more like overall relaxing and warm feeling. And for how high to get it's really preference. At party's if I get to high I tend to get a bit quite. But if I smoke a little I can get around fine . But when I'm at home or one of my mates place getting stupid high is always fun. When you have no worries about anything getting really high is a good time

>>734143539
Ive heard horror stories about sub. Im in the same boat as you with kid, car, home etc and i know its almost cliche at this point but try kratom. Its the only thing thats kept me off harder opiates this whole time. The high i used to get was just like taking some vicodin back in the day. Plus its mellow and cheap enough that you can still function as normal.

>>734143741
If you were a real addict that genuinely wanted to change his/her ways, you wouldn't participate in a thread glorifying drug abuse and exchanging tips on how to get a better trip.

>>734143703
Well stay butthurt then, knowing you can't change shit. Goodnight anon.

>>734143844
Last exams tomorrow, I have an evening of zero worries or responsibilities. I'm thinking of buying loads of snack food, getting a playlist sorted and getting stupid high. Is it sad to smoke on your own like drinking? Just because the others exams havent finished yet.
Uni exams btw, I'm not a squeaker

>>734144050
Butthurt with good reason. Good luck.

>>734143917
See I used to take kratom. It's become one of the only states in America where it's illegal where I live. The doctor who pushed for it's illegality oversees the methodone treatments. Go fucking figure.

>>734144089
No way man. Smoking alone is way better than drinking alone. Have a good trip /b/ro.

I Love Heroin

>>734142544
>Spliffs are the way to go imo

nobody who is a serious smoker smokes through anything but glass + water.

why add paper and adulterate your weed with TOBACCO? kids stuff

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>>734142439
>>734141686
wrong. This is a current phenom, let me explain.

>been growing weed for decades
>grow organically for medical use
>sell to patients
>30 years ago, weed was great, little to no anxiety
>law came down hard
>skip ahead to 10 years ago
>weed becoming very popular
>income these store bought 'nutrients'
>I use them for bigger buds
>patients complain about anxiety, paranoia, and other side effects
>i try several more grows with them
>same results
>i quit using them, back to organic soil, no artificially bought nutrients
>weed is becoming legalized
>most is grown with this store sold chemicals
>people going crazy off weed now
>blame the jews

>>734144133
As a former alcohol "addict" (wasn't a addict but doctors assumed i was because i had withdrawls) i quit cold turkey on my own 2 feet and had deadly withdrawls. Been 3 months sober with wanting to never drink again
Fuck methheads and junkies.

>>734144089
Meh some people may find it that way . But nothing wrong smoking alone . Drinking alone is 100x worse then smoking. It's a nice way to relax after work/class and it can help people sleep. Doing exactly what you said is always nice at the end of the day

>>734144180
Oh wow. Go fuckin figure is right, the methadone clinic I went too was privately owned and actually did the same shit. Im sorry anon, that really sucks.

>>734144204
I will once I figure out how to roll something even somewhat decent. Dexterity of a bull. Any way to cure the munchies at all, they really annoy me because I always eat until I can't find food, and wake up with stomach pains because of it

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>>734144419
I agree!
Im all organic myself!
Tired of seeing all this bullshit about nutrients being good

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>>734144472
Well done. I have mad respect for you. That's hard to do and you're strong as fuck. I wish you all the best in the future.

>>734144472
Good job bro. That shits tough.

>>734144565
You can get some types of weed that don't give you the munchies as bad . But really just self control is the best option . Also look up pencil rolling if you are having a hard time. It's a great way to roll starting out

>>734144565
Eat food thats good for you, like fruit and shit. Mix in something actually filling like a high protien meal and youll be golden. You wont feel like shit after too.

>>734143262
Fork over your cash sissy, rehab isn't gonna pay for itself!

>>734144706
Wew lad.

>>734144981
Poor trolling

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While I'm all for freedom of choice, and lord knows I've done my fair share, I don't think glorified habitual use of any drug is a good idea. Pic related is a perfect analogy I think.

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In all seriousness lads...

Is weed addictive?

I mean like cigarettes or alcohol

>>734135235
faggot

>>734144906
>>734144965
Eat a meal before hand or not? I'll get some apples I guess along with bread, nothing like a high sandwich. I've got filter's are they important? I'm literally not sure what they do except take some toxins out of tobacco some I think

>>734144981
That tax guy is an idiot. Most rehabs are privately owned anyway. Should be more upset about the prisons that are holding all the drug users than the rehabs getting them clean.

>>734145156
DUDE HEROIN LMAO *inject heroin* DUUUUUDDEEEEE IM SO FUCCKCJED UP ON THIS HEROINE BROOO

HHDUUUUUHUHHHUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

HEROIN N BROOOOOOOO I FUCKIN LOOOOVE IT BROOOOOOOO

>>734144554
With kratom I could really see an end to my addiction. But it's been two years since it's ban. Now I grow my own papaver and make opium flake and use OC everyday.

I was doing some reading this past week. It was on how people who started their opiate addiction young 10-20 the brain will never recover like a person who started in late their late 20s and up. Grey matter and neurons. Wish I knew that before I started.

>>734144351

"Serious smoker"

...

"Y, mate, I consider myself a serious jeans-wearing person. No monocles, wallets and lighters allowed in my pocket."

I've talked with dozens of americans who went over tripping here, the vast majority mocks all Dutch smokers for rolling spliffs.
Almost all of them try to mock you about drugs, then they get some good shit and it's "ciao, bye bye let's go to bed modus".
Did the "stoned" term come from Americans getting fucked up from Jamaican weed or from Dutch people who are breeding the best weed for the past 300 years? :D

Do your thing mate, I'll call you a cab when you smoke a spliff of our quality bred weed.

And also: keep sucking on an imaginary dick in the form of a bong. And yes, legit everybody laughs at you over here for using a freaking glass sculpture that looks like a dick to smoke out with friends.

>>734145236
You can make "fliters" from just about anything . Really the main goal is just so weed dosent get in your mouth while you smoke. I know alot of people that make the filters out of cigarette packs. And sure eating before helps , but after you smoke you might find that you're hungry again

>>734145236
Id say eat before, but not too much if your expecting bad munchies. Why roll at all? You can get a cheap metal pipe at a gas station or something, youll conserve more weed that way.

>>734145156
I agree. Doing drugs should never be a habbit. People today seem to think that weed is totally fine to do on a daily basis, but it's still a drug and it does shit to you. I'm for legalization, but it should be used like you'd use alcohol. In the weekends or when time is right. Now it's become popular to smoke weed as a lifestyle. In the end, you're still a drug addict even if it's "just weed".

BEER AND LIQUOR

>>734145442
>>734145421
And agreed . Pipes are best for people who don't wanna invest in a bong, but still want something to smoke out of beside joints 9

>>734145200
There's this misconception that something must build a physical dependency to be addictive, but the reality is that addiction is a psychological disease, like anxiety or depression. So weed can be and is addictive, like any other psychoactive substance, and it will have lasting effects on your psych if you're using it everyday, but you won't build up a physical dependency like you would with heroin or alcohol or even cigarettes.

I really think people should be properly educated on addiction and dependency and the difference between the two, and just how damaging the myth of "it's just mentally addicting" can be, because it's not "just" a mental thing, it's a disease.

>>734145402
Yea ive read things about that too, i started when i was 15 so i figure my brain is just gonna be stuck this way. Have you looked into poppy/poppyseed tea? I know not all of them on the shelf at walmart will get you the results you want but if you find a good supplier you could go that route. Again it could be mellow and cheap enough to at least let you function normally. And after a while maybe taper off completely.

>>734145421
>>734145442
Did I say fliters?
I'll leave the hardware until I know what I'm doing more, still new at this point

>>734145812
My bad , meant filters, if you mean like the little things you put at the end of a joint to smoke from

>>734145775
Not that guy, but poppy seed tea isn't a viable option anymore. I've been using it for more than a year now, and the best seeds came from the UK. Well, the UK passed legislation that says seeds cannot contain more than 10mg of morphine per kg of seeds, which means you're still paying $40+ per dose, whereas before a dose could have been as cheap as a dollar. The seeds are still potent, but they are getting weaker and weaker, and pretty soon they won't be any good at all.

>>734145812
Are there no head shops in your area? Even a lotmof corner cigarette shops usually sell cheap glass/metal pipes. You could probably find one for $10 or less.

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>>734145692
thanks for the great answer
I have been working really hard on a project for the past 8 months from morning to evening pretty much everyday. I share a joint with a colleague pretty much on a daily basis, might start to cut down a bit but I feel really stressed out and overwhelmed by work without it

>>734145775
That all comes from papuver. With that addiction comes a month long physical addiction. When you take that you're taking 40-60 different opiate anolouges. So it's not just one opiate derivative it's all 40 or whatever anolouges.

>>734146063
Ah ok. Is been years since i considered doing it myself. That sucks tho, i still always wanted to try it someday.

Do you want to go see Uncle Kracker or no?!

>>734146044
Yup those things.
/b/ has actually been helpful for once, maybe drugs bring people together

>>734146186
Ok gotcha. The last i researched it i read that the poppy tea would basically just yield you a codiene/morphine mix.

>>734146323
Ikr? This thread has been really civil and informative so far.

>>734146221
It's not mellow either. It can get you pretty fucked. All that morphine,thebain,codiene. I still get my seeds from Amazon and oddly enough it comes from the UK.

>>734145249
Not everyone is from the US.

>>734146221
They're still potent like I said, not near what they used to be, but you could get a good 15 or so doses from one bag online, and that would cost around 30 - 40 dollars. It's a great high, and it lasts a long time (24+ hours), but it's not longer a sustainable habit. Everybody in the PST community has begun tapering or is planning on quitting/switching to different drugs. I'd advise you to try it, but I wouldn't advise trying to sustain a habit on it because of it's uncertain future.

>>734146323
>>734146522
I agree lol, I just like helping other /b/ro's out when it comes to stuff like this

>>734145524
I feel like it's a waste of weed to smoke it regularly.
I get more out of my weed, and enjoy it more if I smoke on my days off.

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Anybody using any cool tobacco substitutes for rolling joints?

Tried dried mint and mugworth so far and I really enjoy the flavors and the extra effects

>>734146323
Drugs bring self-destructive people together and inspire more people to be self-destructive.

>>734142080
all leaves and seeds

>>734146865
Well I'm 19, if I can't do it now when will I ever do it? Nothing wrong with trying things for yourself.
And since I'm staying away from anything harder than weed or nos I think I'll live. Shame about the psychoactive substance ban though

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>>734146865

Are you religious?

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Best under-cover tips for rolling one up. Works really fine, and "dude, I'm just going to make some pasta". When some beggar comes around.

>>734146843
Good point. I wish more cannabis enthusiasts felt that way.

>>734147026
Yeah, cause it's just weed, right? Weed ain't dangerous. So it's fine if you smoke it everyday, miss school, spend all your money on getting high everyday, cause it's just your lifestyle, being a stoner, spending all your cash on weed instead of saving up for more important shit that you actually need in life, right?

>>734147026
If you wanna try something else after weed I would recommend shrooms. They are safe and won't harm you , but you need to have some respect for them

>>734147373
Lol seriously? Ever drank, smoked, even used prescription painkillers? Don' t slippery slope this shit. I bought a big mac once, didn't immediately get diabetes

>>734147094
No, I'm not. I'm just pissed off at people glorifying drug abuse that create loads of people that are nothing but leeches on the other people that actually do something productive with their life. The people that don't end up like that, that don't even end up as a psychiatric case, still support organized criminal gangs to grow larger and create even more severe harm to society.

>>734146095

Well there are certainly worse ways to de-stress, but I would advise you to try and cut down, especially if you feel you're dependent on it to function. There are healthier alternatives, like kava kava, which are great for stress.

Kava kava is a very mild psychoactive substance used by lots of people around the world, for a large variety of reasons, one of which is treating chronic anxiety. It's legal in most countries and available as concentrated tinctures or pills, but I recommend getting straight root powder. Its effects are very mild when taken therapeutically, and has a reverse tolerance effect (the longer you use, the less you have to take for the same effect), and there's no purported dependency or withdrawal symptoms, both mental or physical.

>>734147376
I've heard stuff about them permanently altering your perception in some people

>>734147617
Yeah. How many people do you think said that before you, before they realized they were fucked? Good luck. You're not the next Snoop Dogg.

>>734147718
That's all psychedelics. You don't fuck around with psychedelics until you're ready, because they can really fuck you up.

>>734147671
Ill def vouch for kava. I drink it at night instead of alcohol. Its really good in small amounts for anxiety too.

>>734147646
>>734147784
I'm doing a STEM degree, how's that for contributing to society? Also I have a job and a life, don't assume everyone can't function because they touched weed

>>734147790
>>734147718
Can confirm, after taking shrooms for awhile it changed how I view the world

>>734147902
>>734147790
Yeah I'll give that a miss, weed and drink is more than enough for me so far, and hopefully always will be

>>734147373
>>734147617
I'm not saying you necessarily are going to do harder drugs. I've seen plenty of people only smoking weed that fucked up their life and had to re-do years of school because weed made them lazy and careless. Some even chose weed before their kids. No matter what movies tell you, weed isn't something you can consume like water without consequences.

>>734148098
I'm not sure if you're more concerned parent or anti-drug conservative. And that goes for anything in life, people choose video games, sports, cars and anything else over what they need to do. Don't act like weed is any worse than them

>>734148098
I get what your trying to do but your not helping anyone here. Your just coming off as an angry grandpa and will cement peoples resolve to do these drugs more than change their minds about it. Intentions are good, method and place is wrong.

>>734148018
Just don't hang around people who do harder stuff. After awhile you get desensitized by it and convince yourself to try it .

>>734147671
>Kava kava
Thanks man i ll definitely give it a go, you are a saint. I can easily get the pills on amazon, can't find the grounded pouder, you reckon they are still effective?

>>734148392
Inbuy my root powder from amazon as well, look for wakacon fijian root. Its like $38 per pound. Good stuff.

>>734148361
I know man, drugs are scary things. Even people doing MDMA before going clubbing makes me not join them. But I've done the research and I think weed is worth the risks. Also, you have to live your life at some point, or you'll run out of it. Not 19 forever

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>>734147790

OP here

Once had a friend
Who knew a guy who ordered concentrated bricks of RC's from China.
Cut a piece off, melt it in a pot, cool it off, and spray on whatever you want to smoke.

-I believe we had 2C-I-
We had marshmallow leaf with vanilla flavoring and 4-5 good passes of the spray bottle.

I was high for almost 19 hours, I watched the sun go from dawn to dusk before my own eyes, what I thought was a 15 minute smoke session on the back porch. I tore a hole in my friends fridge, fought his Christmas tree and ate half a carton of raw eggs.

No give, no sleep.
Nothing but psychosis and psychedelics doing their thing.

In my mind I was in heaven, mind you.

I'm estimating over 250 hits, just because the concentrates were <99%, good for 15,000,000 doses out of 8 ounces, each spritz was about 0.030g deposited on the material.

From then on, I had flashbacks weekly, but after about six months they've subsided, my vision started to become randomly blurry, and has gotten only worse since then, and that was almost two years ago.

Lesson, don't smoke a joint sprayed with concentrated RC.

>>734148392
The issue with pills is they usually go with a water based or alcohol based extraction, and neither of those give you the full spectrum of alkaloids present in the root. If you can, try and find brands that specify whether they're full spectrum or not. Try looking online for krava vendors, I used to order from bula kava house long ago; they were great, even sold "instant kava" mixes you could brew like coffee. I actually just ordered some from a place called Kalm with Kava, haven't tried them out but I've heard good things.

>>734148652
I'm 21 and still in college and I agree . These years are the best times to get out and live a little. Weed is most certainly worth the risk, since that bottle of alcohol you buy at the store can kill you if you drink to much . Weed can't do that to you

>>734148341
Ok. I'm just tired of seeing people thinking weed is as harmless as a slice of bread. I've been there, it fucked up my personality and my progress in life. It did the same with a whole lot of my friends. Some of my friends still, years later, choose to buy weed instead of supporting their family, their kids. I got out of it and looking back at how I was, it scares me. I too thought weed was harmless. I had the attitude that it was totally fine and even healthy. I'll stop posting now. Inb4 a shitload of people hating on me. inb4 I can't inb4.

>>734148746
Ive tried kalm, bkh, and ghk, in my opinion the wakacon beats them all. The effects from bkh and ghk are stronger mind you, but only at first. Eventually it was just the same old kava buzz but i was spending twice as much money per pound. The wakacon is a very balanced head/body buzz and is pretty cheap. Plus prime shipping. Kalm actually seemed identical to the wakacon, but if your looking for a strong head buzz check out the "Moi" from ghk. Def good stuff but i got dermo after a month of daily use.

>>734148971
I feel you anon. This forum just isnt the best place for it. Have a good night /b/ro.

Apparently in Uk it is slightly more complicated to get the Kava Kava, but they suggest Ashwagandha supplements (or indian ginseng).
Have you ever heard of it?

>>734149559
Yea germany really fucked up the lava lays in europe (go figure) because they used bad exctracts and some people had liver problems. Normal root wont do this. Ashwaganda is supposed to work with anxiety and depression iirc but wont give you a buzz like kava.

>>734149957
>lava lays
Fml. Kava laws*

>>734149324
I'll definitely look into that. It's been years since I've had any. I'd like to use it along with kratom in tapering off poppy seed tea, as I feel like this addiction has run its course and I'm ready to be free again. Some people don't realize how dreadful life is when what you thought was liberating you from your pain was secretly building your prison cell. The prospect of waking up everyday and simply living life without those shackles is so beautifully rich beyond my dreams, and it's so hard to describe to people who've never experienced it.

>>734150030
you sure know loads about this shit. Are you a chemist or just an enthusiast?

>>734149957
>>734149559
It used to be banned around the world. Some idiots in Germany were using the entire plant to make kava and selling it instead of the root; other parts of the plant are hepatoxic and I think some people even died and as a result, bam near worldwide ban. Countries soon lifted the ban one by one when the truth came out, though it appears some places are still in the dark.

Only do weed anymore, don't even drink. Way more boring than I used to be I guess.

>>734150043
I actually do take kratom daily along with my kava, and ill say just be careful. The same analogy you used with the poppies can be said with kratom. The withdrawals are less intense, sure, but theyre still withdrawals. Just be careful anon. And def check out that kava.

>>734150355
Ever thought of a tolerance brake?

>>734150172
Just an enthusiast. I just like research and when it comes to fun things like psychoactives its even more fun.

>>734150421
I've got lots of experience with kratom. I was using it daily for a few months, but I had to stop because the powder was tearing up my stomach. I didn't suffer any sort of withdrawals from it, aside from some boredom and a bit of apathy for a day.

>>734150464
On one currently. Me and my gf were going through way too much weed for just two people.

Took acid and 2cb yesterday, was pretty intense

>>734150733
That's good. They always helped me out in times it was getting boring. How much were you smoking a week?

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>>734150536
you got me really intrigued about this kava kava, apparently it helps skin condition too and i have eczema all over my arms. It is such a shame it is pretty impossible to get here, ahaha
I might try Ashwagandha anyway

>>734150716
At least you know what to expect. If you need a good source for kratom i get mine from either kwik kratom or lifeforcekratom. Lifeforce is slightly cheaper and has way better quality imo. Check em out if your interested.

>>734143722
>what is the most addictive drug

>>734150904
Between the two of us we smoked half an ounce in a week. Really sucks not smoking right now because Im sick as a dog but it'll be worth it.

>>734151045
Do they sell by the kilo? I used to buy from MmmSpeciosa! but I've forgotten the name of the wholesaler that I'd buy kilos off of. They were pretty legit, you could mix and match different strains to make a full kilo for 100 dollars. Samples of all their strains for 20 dollars would net you around 80 grams in powder.

>>734150950
Ive actually never heard of it helping skin conditions, i do know it can give you dermopathy if you drink too much or find a particular strain that your body doesnt like. Its no big deal tho its just a little itchy/peely. And its totally reversible after a few days with no kava. Its definitely worth a try tho /b/ro, like i said i drink it every night instead of alcohol. Look on youtube for the best way to make it with pure root powder.

>>734151134
Yeah it will be. How much you pay for your ounces where you live ?

>>734134779
Stonerfags are degenerates. And so are alcoholics. I prefer not to poison my body.

>>734151308
In Denver, so I always try to get it on sale. Usually 100-125

>>734151267
Lifeforce used to sell by the kilo and let you mix/match but im not 100% if they do anymore. I buy 250grams(about half a pound) at a time and it comes to about $50 after shipping. I havent checked kwik kratom in a few months so im not sure there. Theyre both dot coms.

>>734151285
How do you make your kava? It's probably been a good 4 years since I made any, but I always wrapped it in something like cheesecloth or a rag and kneaded it in a bowl of water for 5 or so minutes. I think that was the traditional way of making it or something, worked well enough but kinda messy. I used to toss n wash kratom, a very terrible but ultimately endurable experience, could the same be done with kava? Or would that make you at higher risk for dermopathy.

>>734151415
But dope fiends are all good right?

>>734151415
Jesus is proud of you.

>>734151503
Not bad , in Canada I can get it for anywhere from 80$ for some shitty weed to 200$ for some A grade stuff

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>>734151285
thanks anon, you are a kind spirit
bless you and have good night

>>734141382
Hows your tolerance to psychedelics if your doing them once a week? Also what are we talking about here?

>>734151518
Id def not recommend toss n washing kava, youd need to eat so much plant matter itd probably make you sick. Look on amazon forma nut milk bag, thats what ive been using for a year or so and it lasts forever. But yea just put about 4-5 heaping tablespoons in the bag per gallon of water or so. Thats what i do anyway its really up to you how strong you make it. You can also use plain nylon stocking from walmart if you double them up. Ive even heard that paint strainer bags from a hardware store works as well

>>734135235
I agree. If I want something big I'll get a pre rolled raw cone and fill it. Plus you get the little filter tip.

>>734135278
That a teenth?

>>734135684
Have some in the closet I'm trying not to do.

>>734136057
Nice

>>734151537
Even more pitiable.
>>734151562
I'm agnostic.

So to the small clique of kratom/kava kava users we seem to have formed in this thread, what's your favorite music to /chill/ to? Favorite vidya when you're nodding or just chillin out? I feel like there's still room for intellectual discussion in this thread.

What do you guys think of trazodone?

>>734154232
benzedrex tier high

Anyone here like speed?

>>734155035
no

what do you all think about real lean? not that fake shit.

>>734155656
It can pretty fun under the right circumstances

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>>734140030
>100g hash
oh shit nigga that looks so delicious! should last you 3 years!

>>734155656
Baller juice. Codeine is the lowest tier opiate you can get, and it's paired with a first gen antihistamine like benadryl. A terrible high if you ask me.

>>734156006
oh and it's obscenely expensive. Codeine is not worth much. you could be high for days on other opiates for the price of lean.

>>734134779
Weed to get high
Alcohol to pass out
Caffeine to stay awake

What am I missing?

>>734156217
Replace alcohol with weed and caffeine with speed and you'll be good

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>>734134779
Anybody here from Houston or the metro?

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>>734134779
what can i do if ive been a pot smoker for 15 years and now its making me paranoid?????

>>734158255
Stop smoking?
I had the same thing happened to me and only smoked a little bit of some weak indicated strains every now again. Haven't smoked in almost 6 months and I don't miss it at all.

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getting 50mg of etizolam this week. time to relapse

>>734159167
Where do you get yours?

>>734140921
Fellow psychonaut reporting in.

>>734141350
most efficient way of getting stupid high is bong, u can bother setting up dabs if u want to kick it up a notch but for the effort, i wouldnt do it unless its a legal state
joints are nice, mellow, less harsh and you can taste the bud but u need a lot more to get high
store it in a cool dry place. airtight is good, watch humidity if u can do something about it (there are product online that can help regulate humidity but its an extra step to care for ur product)

>>734143209
>>734143003
for papers highly would recommend raw

>>734161122
Element papers are better imho.

Can't smoke anymore but i do miss it slightly. Being sober isn't bad though.

>>734156006
The promethazine gives it a trippy dissociative effect. It's like a cross between a cleaner robotrip and a dirtier, itchier hydro/oxy high. Still mostly a status thing in certain circles than anything.

>>734159467
There's some clearnet sites you can get it off of. Shymolecule was really popular and arguably the best, but I heard he's been inactive for quite some time. There are other clearnet sites besides his though. You just gotta do a lot of searching. And if you do find one, the inventory is coded. It won't say etizolam, it might just say ETZ or something similar. Very covert.

>>734157467
DFW here

>>734159467
https://www.domesticrcs.com

>>734162398
no search needed. just go to /r/rcsources
i used https://www.domesticrcs.com for my order

>>734162421
Yee-haw homie what's good? You smoking tonight?

>>734162572
That fucking subreddit is killing the RC industry. That one and the subreddit for poppy tea. Too many people know about it. Too many uneducated people have access to it.

>>734162722
Nah just chillin on some clonazolam and poppy seed tea. Might finish painting this room, or at least finish rolling the second coat. Might cut in for the second coat too, who knows. Wanna dose some more clam but I don't wanna totally black out.

>>734145200
Been smoking for 8 years.
Growing my own and making extracts.
Quit cold turkey on 4/21 as i have hypoglycemia (cannabis lowers blood suger by causing insulin to release, it's why you want junkfood if your high)
Didn't have one sign of a withdrawl, infact, i felt better as it wasn't causing hypoglycemic episodes. But no different then i felt before.

Was drinking a pint and 80oz's of beer everyday for 1 year and like 4 months. Quit cold turkey
Had withdrawals that consisted of:
Increased heart rate, whole body tremors, warming in my face, cold sweats, depression, delerium tremons (DT's, common symptoms are a drastic increase to your already crazy heart rate, dialeted pupils, and a delerius state of mind), insomnia that gave me 8 hours of sleep in 96 hours.., anxiety, loss of appetite and inability to hold food down, vomiting/nausia, a massive headache, and a fucking seizure that scared me straight, and i was left with hypoglycemia from abuse and cortisol damage.
3 months sober now, never looking back!

>>734162948
For sure, I'm on a classic cross fade. What is Clonazolam like?

>>734162137
Lean is a pussys high, just a bunch of posers who can't hang imo.

>>734163158
Coming from the dude who never has had hi tech

>>734140895
Depends on what you grow in, where you grow, how you grow it. You can get 15 pound chongers outdoor, but you gotta work really hard. You can get big plants indoor, but it's hard work. And remember that 75% of your harvest weight is water lost in the curing process.

Grey heroin is best heroin. Although in Chicago area this rock hard tan shit has been fire. Quality keeps getting better and better.

>>734163140
It kind of has that body feel that ambien has, and it's really chill and relaxing. It's a great high in my opinion, especially if you like benzos. you develop a tolerance to the positives fairly quickly though, and it can have quite the effect on memory.


Another thing, it's stupid fucking potent. .5mg is enough for the most experienced user to blackout. There's stories of people blacking out for 3 days or longer because they kept redosing and forgot they redosed. It also lasts about 6 - 10 hours. Easy to get if you know where to look, completely unscheduled but don't expect that to last long. Get it while it's hot!

>>734140921
I can find shroom once every 6 months or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bjPlBC4h_8

>>734163705
how do i go about buying heroin? im not comfortable asking someone i know and im too lazy to use any dnm

>>734163705
Dallasfag here, I can only ever find tar wherever I look. If ECP pops up on the scene it's usually because someone off the deep web ordered a bit in bulk. I'd love to try some ECP someday

>>734162825
what makes you think that? amd whats the poppy tea subreddit lel

>>734135278
>helping me stay off other drugs
>is doing crystal meth

>>734163971
Internet or find dudes that sell opiates. THey prob know

>>734145200
I am a heavy weed smoker but I don't feel addicted to it, like I can quit at any time and be cool

>>734164120

Most RC vendors are operating clandestine labs, and it's much easier to find them and shut them down if they're all listed and rated on a subreddit anybody has access to. That's also what led to poppy seed tea becoming so popular, and now the best brands are being required to wash their seeds to remove the residual opium before we can.

>>734146860
Try some shit called fanta lead. I smoked with these island rasta people one time and the joints they rolled had What they called fanta leaf mixed in and it packed an extra punch

>>734135278
AH man, I haven't smoked shard in months.
I miss the turn and burn of hitting the bubble

>>734163158
It's like most substances. The people who use them conspicuously tend to be people who just think it's cool. The people who are actually into it aren't typically people who are into opiates tho. Opiates are typically about getting high. Promethazine syrup is about getting as fucked up as possible.