Should using the wrong pronoun be punishable by law? I'd like a tame discussion on the topic of genderfluid people! Im a genderfluid, non binary, demiboy and able-bodied person. My pronouns are ze, zeirs and zeds.
Well considering it already is punishable by law in Canada, whether we like it or not, I think it's an infringement on free speech. If you get so triggered by someone accidentally calling you the wrong gender that you have to imprison them for it, then maybe you just shouldn't leave your house.
I've had trans people fly in my face because I used "it" in place of "the person", where the of the hypothetical gender was not relevant or even mentioned at all
Though if trans people could grow some skin and not get offended by that, then sure why not
Literally noone cares about your made-up gender bullshit. There are only 2 genders, nothing more, nothing less. Stop trying to push this Tumblr/SJW shit down the throat of 4chan. You're either a man, or a woman.
Well you came to the wrong place if you're looking for a safe space. There are two genders, male and female. Just because you wanna be a special snowflake doesn't mean someone who makes an honest mistake calling you a she when you're a ze or whatever the fuck needs to go to jail.
>It should be illegal for you to say things I don't like
No, this should not be punishable by law. To do so would be a violation of the God-Given Right to Freedom of Speech. Such a violation is unacceptable.
Also, while I have no intention of preventing you from calling yourself whatever you like, please be aware that suicide rates in your community do not decrease after a sex change operation. Happiness comes from what's in your heart, mind, and soul. Happiness does not come from how people see you, the mask you wear, or the genitalia between your legs.
My preferred pronoun is 'Muhammed is a faggot goatfucker'
>>734117582 <This asshole responding, its a slow day on 4chin.
On a more serious note in line with your original questioning I shall attack the topic rather than sit here and berate you.
No, it shouldn't illegal. Not only because it infringes on the right to freedom of speech, but because you represent a minority of people whose common linking factor is that they're all autismal as fuck. Human gender is binary, that's simple fucking biology.
If you can retort and prove that there are more than 2 actual genders, go ahead.
>Protip: You really actually fucking can't
Stop writing everything with exclamation marks you autist, you're making it too obvious that you're just a dumbass with nothing better to do trying to bait the early summerfags
No, because there aee only 2 genders. The rest are made up teal life cosply tumblr fantasies gone amok. You have made your self mentally ill. Dont try and infect me with your own male belive shit.
Take ahard look in the mirror, kid. You aint special. You are just like the rest of everyone, you just need to accept it and move the fuck on.
>There s no reason to not have one bathroom for all genders!
>Everyone experiences gender differentky, therefore there are milions of genders.
... Millions of bathrooms per shopping mall
Your very existence should be your validation you attention seeking meatpuppet. you shouldn't have to cram this shit down peoples throats every ten minutes because you want to be the center of attention in your own special snowflake way. The rest of civilization as you know it is sick of this gender politics bullshit.
Here take this dollar. And I have a show on my head
pronouns don't matter. Be yourself and grow a fucking skin m8. Listen to some dr phil or some shit if you think that will motivate you, Idc just as long as you don't tell me what i can and can't do regarding my own life.
Why should use of grammatical gender equate to invalidating someone's gender identity?
In my native language, I refer to the weather as "him"-
Am I being disrespectful and should I be criminalized for it?
That's because your pronouns are bullshit m8. By your logic, millions of people = millions of pronouns. Why the fuck is it my cross to bear? Why should I remember them all when between you whiny-ass cucks and the cock-stomping militant feminists are constantly harping for equality that you already have. Wake up and smell the fucking napalm.
hello there my gender is faggot please call me "it" or "faggot" i dont mind either one
>not all people have XX or XY.
Are you fucking retarded.
>They doesn't realize they'd die right after
If saying something someone else doesn't like means jail time?
You'd be in the slammer for life, you autismo SJW hypocritical faggot
I don't associate with your people. They are rife with mental illness. The last one i dealt with tried to convince a bro of mine to cross-dress and cut his dick off, so I'll pass.
They fly in my face when I say "it" where I'm discussing a person in the abstract sense
"it has nipples" instead of "the person has nipples"
So it would be idiotic to criminalize it, if anything
Dumb liberals, if we the people who vote, did not care about the income inequality between two genders; what makes you think we will with 62 genders?
>not all people have XX or XY.
Kim please nuke us already
assuming your not a troll and actually a fucking autistic nigger how does it feel knowing that you make people with actual gender dysphoria look fucking retarded. your the reason why trans people have such a hard time.
Yes, yes it should. Then all the normies (who by far outnumber the "gendered") should chose some nice words as pronouns, and sue each and every "gendered's" ass off when they can't memorize the thousands and thousands of different pronouns at the first try. When they all are finally in jail, then the law can be removed.
Because they're occasionally born with an extra one of the two. Statistically speaking most of these people go on to be serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, 4chan trolls, and ______ rights activists.
>Because they're occasionally born with an extra one of the two.
>Statistically speaking most of these people go on to be serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, 4chan trolls, and ______ rights activists
i've never seen anything that suggests this.
>Should using the wrong pronoun be punishable by law?
No, for a multitude of reasons. But mainly because 1. There's no way of knowing what pronouns someone wants to be called. and 2. It directly contradicts freedom of speech.
my individuality says: when talking to me - speak to my asshole instead of my face. I demand that everyone respects that and who refuses to bow and speak to my listening hole is ignorant and should go to jail. Lets discuss it.
I wish this were true. The problem with our extremists is that they are fucking useless in a fight. Put our Feminists/allies/LGBTQ against the rights hardcore racists and they will get bludgeoned to shit
I think I'll regret falling for obvious bait but
Using this logic, how could a person be "genderfluid" and "non-bynary"?
if you go from one to another at times, it doesn't even matter if sometimes you're not any of them.
with that said, there are too many problems with gender nomenclature, and pronouns shouldn't even matter, ok, correcting people gently for pronouns, but getting offended is kinda stupid. Some people can't and won't get the pronouns right if that affectstheir talking skills, and if you find an asshole who'll get it wrong on purpose, you shouldn't talk to that person anyways
>Well it would be mandatory to ask ppl their preffered pronouns!
Why? It's a waste of time when you can guess the pronouns of 99.9% people by looking at them.
And even if you use the wrong pronoun it causes no harm. At worst it's a mild annoyance.
And you still haven't responded to the free speech issue.
How the future will be.
Everyone will be silent, not speaking a word to each other, in fear that someone will assume what they say is discriminating them, leading to them being arrested.
Hell, in this day and age, I'm 'discriminated' against because of a severe mental handicap that leaves me with short-term memory loss so bad, I forget I'm doing something while doing it. But I know it's annoying and difficult for others, so I put up with it (even though I have to deal with it every second of my life, I've come to terms with it).
You didn't read it properly.
I disagree. Non-cis people are the ones breaking with the established norm.
That said, one should change used pronoun when asked to do so.
Thissss guy knows what's up
Sorry if you don't like the term 'guy'. I needed a term implying closeness
I've been verbally attacked for holding the door open to let people through. This one person, who looked like a woman, started shouting and screaming at me for holding the door open for them (when they were simply the last in a group of people who were walking through while I was waiting to get out), but when I said 'Sorry Miss', 'she' EXPLODED, demanding I check my privledge and not assume their gender, insisting I say 'sorry zir' and apologise for being a cis-bastard-male.
The joke is on 'Zer', I'm an FTM fully transitioned, and probably better equipped on the subjects 'zhe' was attempting to dress me down on, but I still had to stand there while 'zer' and friends belittled and stripped me of all self-confidence, when all I was doing was holding the door open in common courtesy before I could leave myself to get back to my job.
>BuT mUh fEeLens
Man up you god damn Nancy. It's pansies like you that let the nazis do so much
Then you are feeble characters who actively victimize yourselves.
When fellow white people call me "reindeer fucker" for my physical appearance, I respond by hinting that their spouse is worse at cooking than my hypothetical reindeer spouse.
Good times for the both of us
I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
They should make a law saying If you are retarded enough to believe you arent one of two options of genders "male/female" then you should go to jail or pay a hefty fine. Stop this stupid fucking gender pronanoun garbage which is a waste of fucking time. You gender binary cucks.
it shouldn't be illegal because of free speech. If you do that then you might as well outlaw insulting someone and once you do that anyone can just decide something was an insult arbitrarily and it would have legal consequences. That would be stupid. Just don't be their friend like anyone else. If someone insults me I just wouldn't be their friend. You're just proving once again that people like you think they're somehow more enlightened then other people and deserve special treatment. It's bs.
"ever since I was a boy..."
it's funny how some memes vcan viralize without the tinniest effort to be well made.
If you didn't understand, I meant that the person wouldn't be an attack helicopter, it would be genderfluid.
Sorry, but you are mentally ill. There are only 2 genders, male and female. If you "identify" as anything else, you need therapy. XX and XY is all there is, nothing more, nothing less.
all the "new" genders are kind of "I feel something between the two extremes", and there is non binary which is something I don't completely agree.
but you see, they did have enough effort to stablish "new" genders, didn't they?
you can do it, be strong <3
Pronouns should be a banable offense. Fags shouldn't have rights, if pedophiles don't have rights. You can't just draw the line where YOU want because then you're oppressing a sect of society with equally valid concepts and your whole way of life destroys itself. Git gud.
>It invalidates grnderfluids therefore it causes psychological pain and anguish.
In order to charge someone with a crime for something, you would need to be able to prove that their action is a direct cause of significant harm to you.
Your assertion that using the wrong pronouns invalidates gender fluids and causes them psychological pain and anguish is like trying to charge someone with murder because they once smoked a cigarette in the car with you and now you have lung cancer. The link between the action and the harm is too tenuous, and there are too many other factors involved for the cause and effect to be direct enough for any sort of legal action to stick.