Should using the wrong pronoun be punishable by law? I'd

>>734117276
Post tits and or dick

>>734117276
really obvious bait thread

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>>734117365

>>734117276
Kys

>>734117276
Never have children, you have nothing to contribute to the gene pool.

>>734117276

Blatant troll. Reddit is probably too hardcore for you, try Facebook.

>>734117524
Could we, for once, just have a discussion? What are your pronouns? Do you think we need gender neutral bathrooms?

>>734117276
No, just like calling a nigger a nigger shouldn't be punishable by law.

>inb4 bait

what does being able bodied have to do with gender

>>734117276
WHAT IN ZEE FUCK ZID ChU say to mEh?!

>>734117639
Well, racism is punishable! Why shouldnt discriminating gender fluid people also be?

2/10 bait

>>734117276
>Im a genderfluid, non binary, demiboy and able-bodied person
I wish you were dead,and i'll bet your parents wish that too

>>734117756
tilt fgt

>>734117701
Nothing really! Just describes me!

>>734117756
having different bathrooms for different genders should be illegal, but saying things should not.

>>734117365
This
Or gtfo

>>734117841
We re getting somewhere! There s no reason to not have one bathroom for all genders!

>>734117276
Well considering it already is punishable by law in Canada, whether we like it or not, I think it's an infringement on free speech. If you get so triggered by someone accidentally calling you the wrong gender that you have to imprison them for it, then maybe you just shouldn't leave your house.

>>734117903
I cant post my penis as i feel like it doesnt represent me.

>>734117771
I'll second that death wish

>>734117756

No

I've had trans people fly in my face because I used "it" in place of "the person", where the of the hypothetical gender was not relevant or even mentioned at all

Though if trans people could grow some skin and not get offended by that, then sure why not

>>734117276
Literally noone cares about your made-up gender bullshit. There are only 2 genders, nothing more, nothing less. Stop trying to push this Tumblr/SJW shit down the throat of 4chan. You're either a man, or a woman.

>>734117623
I think all bathrooms should be banned. We should all be shitting in the soil so we can fertilize it and grow delicious fruits and veggies all over the place.

>>734118008
People need safe spaces where they wont get hurt by hate speech! Theres no reason i have to deal with discrimination.

>>734118024
So cut that shit off and walk around with a nub between your legs

>>734118091

*gender of the hypothetical person

>>734118114
Who defines hate speech? You? Me? The government?

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>>734117756
>says racism is punishable by law

>>734118101
My gender isnt made up! Everyone experiences gender differentky, therefore there are milions of genders.

>>734118196
the government

>>734118196
Hate speech = rhetoric that hurts

>>734118114
Well you came to the wrong place if you're looking for a safe space. There are two genders, male and female. Just because you wanna be a special snowflake doesn't mean someone who makes an honest mistake calling you a she when you're a ze or whatever the fuck needs to go to jail.

>>734118114

Making the assumption that someone is cis should not be classified as hate speech because most people are cis

>>734118024
I can post a nigger but it doesn't represent me.

Post dick or GTFO

>>734118250
Gender isn't defined by your fucking feelings, it's defined by your chromasones.

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>>734117276
>It should be illegal for you to say things I don't like

>>734118238
In a broad sense it is! I can sue you for discriminating!

>>734117276
No, this should not be punishable by law. To do so would be a violation of the God-Given Right to Freedom of Speech. Such a violation is unacceptable.

Also, while I have no intention of preventing you from calling yourself whatever you like, please be aware that suicide rates in your community do not decrease after a sex change operation. Happiness comes from what's in your heart, mind, and soul. Happiness does not come from how people see you, the mask you wear, or the genitalia between your legs.

>>734117276
My gender is op is a faggot

>>734118250
Obviously you have no idea how science and fact works

Bet OP is actually a fat chick.

>>734117931
liberals will say "oh no, but then men will rape women all the time",
but that's pretty bullshit.

You could say the same thing about race, but that would still be illegal.

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Shitty thread is shitty

>>734117276
Why should other people be forced to cater to your mental illness? Go live your life however you want but don't force it down the throats of others.

>>734117931
Would you like to have your daughter go in the same bathroom as the creepy old guy who stares at her from across the street?

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>>734117276

>>734118366
Bullshit

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My preferred pronoun is 'Muhammed is a faggot goatfucker'

>>734118603
Well people can be civilised! The fact that he s in the adjacent bathroom doesnt help either!

>>734118603
yes i would.
just put security cameras so people can't pull any funny-business.

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>>734118603

>>734117276

>>734117582 <This asshole responding, its a slow day on 4chin.

On a more serious note in line with your original questioning I shall attack the topic rather than sit here and berate you.

No, it shouldn't illegal. Not only because it infringes on the right to freedom of speech, but because you represent a minority of people whose common linking factor is that they're all autismal as fuck. Human gender is binary, that's simple fucking biology.
If you can retort and prove that there are more than 2 actual genders, go ahead.
>Protip: You really actually fucking can't

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>>734118707
Stop writing everything with exclamation marks you autist, you're making it too obvious that you're just a dumbass with nothing better to do trying to bait the early summerfags

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>>734118366

>>734118593
Well people need to be tolerant! Pronouns should be respected so ppl feel validated!>>734118789
Finally , a decent response!

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>>734118748

>>734118748
Security cameras in a bathroom? Did you even think your logic through?

No, because there aee only 2 genders. The rest are made up teal life cosply tumblr fantasies gone amok. You have made your self mentally ill. Dont try and infect me with your own male belive shit.

Take ahard look in the mirror, kid. You aint special. You are just like the rest of everyone, you just need to accept it and move the fuck on.

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>>734117276

>>734117931

>There s no reason to not have one bathroom for all genders!

>>734118250
>Everyone experiences gender differentky, therefore there are milions of genders.


... Millions of bathrooms per shopping mall

>>734118957
freedom of information.

>>734119078
one bathroom for all genders,
not one bathroom for each gender.

>>734118899
Tolerate me not beliving in your made up crap then, retard.

>>734119184

I dont think e.g. feminists would approve of that

>>734118899
Your very existence should be your validation you attention seeking meatpuppet. you shouldn't have to cram this shit down peoples throats every ten minutes because you want to be the center of attention in your own special snowflake way. The rest of civilization as you know it is sick of this gender politics bullshit.

>>734117276
tits/dick or gtfo

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All these retards not seeing that this is b8

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>>734117276
Here take this dollar. And I have a show on my head

>>734119266
Who cares what they approve, their women.

>>734119098

Some information is considered illegal to gather.
The freedom of information act has nine exemptions already.

>>734119595
what are they?

>>734119640
>>734119595
intellectual property is bullshit btw

If you walk into the ladies room and some bitch complains, just punch her in the face and shit on her tits

>>734117276
...and I don't give a fuck. Allow me to give you an easy chart.

dick=dude
pussy=chick

>>734117276
OP is being destroyed by /b/. Should have stayed home at Tumblr.

>>734119640

https://foia.state.gov/Learn/FOIA.aspx

e.g "#3: information that is exempt under other laws"

>>734119218
Dude you need to be tolerant to live in a civilised society, therefore you need to use the proper pronouns to respect the people newr you!

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>>734118899

>>734118024
Well tough shit niglet

>>734117276
Liberal here. I'm convinced that genderfluids are just trolls planted by the right to make us look retarded.

>>734119881
>https://foia.state.gov/Learn/FOIA.aspx
thnx

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>>734120026
Then why are so many leftists spreading this gender politics bullshit?

>>734119783
I dont think it would be that much of a hassle to just respect peoples pronouns!

>>734120186
Because they're confused. I'm all for equal rights for people of different races, gays, women, but holy fucking fuck this identity shit has gone too far.

>>734118867
>summerfags

One of the quickest ways to identify a newfag

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>>734120026
>Accusing the right of being this smart

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pronouns don't matter. Be yourself and grow a fucking skin m8. Listen to some dr phil or some shit if you think that will motivate you, Idc just as long as you don't tell me what i can and can't do regarding my own life.

>>734119937

Why should use of grammatical gender equate to invalidating someone's gender identity?

In my native language, I refer to the weather as "him"-
Am I being disrespectful and should I be criminalized for it?

>>734120313
Well if you can respect a person of a different skin color u can also respect a person of a different gender.

>>734120339
Well it isn't Jimbo and Cletus who came up with the idea. It would have come from their masters, clearly.

there are 4 genders male female hermaphrodite and then what i like to call "smoothies"

>>734120233
People need to respect the fact that like all mammals on earth we are either male or female and cant just make up genders to feel special.

>>734120599
die

>>734120505
I can respect most anyone period, but at the end of the day, there's nothing about anyone's identity that really matters. We're not that important.

>>734120599
hahaha very funny.

>>734117276
Kys niggerfaggot

>>734120503
Well it makes non binary people feel shitty and invalidates them! Just respect pronouns, no exceptions.

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>>734120233
It's really fucking difficult since you've made literal hundrends of pronouns.

>He/She = Fine with me
>Zie/Zir/Zim = Call an ambulance this person is mentally ill.

>>734120233
just use "they" for everything

>>734120860
i mean everyone.

>>734120705

I cannot respect the pronoun of someone whose gender identity I don't know yet.
Why would that be criminal?

>>734117477
kek

>>734120599
A hermaphrodite is just the result of a man or woman having gender dysphoria going through a gender transition.

>>734120860
That would make you sound retarded.

>>734120860
Well if the person prefers to be refered tio as they sure, but people use a range of pronouns.

>>734118789
There are 2 different biological genders, also called the sex of a person. Male and female. Everything else is a gene-defect.

>>734120233
That's because your pronouns are bullshit m8. By your logic, millions of people = millions of pronouns. Why the fuck is it my cross to bear? Why should I remember them all when between you whiny-ass cucks and the cock-stomping militant feminists are constantly harping for equality that you already have. Wake up and smell the fucking napalm.

>>734120952
Call them He/She ffs.

>>734120885

That certainly helps, but it introduces other problems
singular vs. plural.

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hello there my gender is faggot please call me "it" or "faggot" i dont mind either one

>>734120975
Well thats not true. Gender is assigned at birth but it may not be corect.

>>734120925
some people are born like this.
very few, but not zero.
not all people have XX or XY.

>>734120860
If someone called me a they right in front of me i would break their nose.

>>734121170
How is it not true? Nothing in that sentence is wrong. Feel free to prove me wrong..

>>734121002
Mainly ask for the ppl you meet! Its not that hard.

>>734118603
If he is dressed like a creepy old woman yes, yes I would like that. I would like that here or there, in a box with a fox, yes I would Sam I Am.

>>734120952
"they" means of any gender

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>>734121217
>not all people have XX or XY.

Are you fucking retarded.

>>734118113
Curry Nigger detected

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>>734121237
>They doesn't realize they'd die right after

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>>734117276
If saying something someone else doesn't like means jail time?

You'd be in the slammer for life, you autismo SJW hypocritical faggot

>>734117276
Hello Ze! I think you can be whatever you want to be. Never give up on your dreams.

>>734117276
>Should using the wrong pronoun be punishable by law?
Yes
>My pronouns are ze, zeirs and zeds.
Up against the wall

>>734121272
I don't associate with your people. They are rife with mental illness. The last one i dealt with tried to convince a bro of mine to cross-dress and cut his dick off, so I'll pass.

>>734121337
I'll take "Klinefelter syndrome" to 500 Alex

>>734118957
oh, i thought it through alright
</lennyface>

>>734120925
Hermaphroditism is not a gender. It's a mutation. And the individual can be easily identified as either a male of female depending what they are more biologically born to

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VOOSHHHHHH

>>734121450
Thanks m80 :)

>>734121272

Read this
>>734118091
>>734118189

They fly in my face when I say "it" where I'm discussing a person in the abstract sense

e.g.
"it has nipples" instead of "the person has nipples"

So it would be idiotic to criminalize it, if anything

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Dumb liberals, if we the people who vote, did not care about the income inequality between two genders; what makes you think we will with 62 genders?

>>734121645
saved in my reaction folder

whatever you say, man.

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>>734117276

>>734121878
Im not a man

>>734121982
OK FAGGOT

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>>734121217
>not all people have XX or XY.

Kim please nuke us already

>>734121982
Just take it as a figure of speech.

>>734121337
it's literally true though....

>>734122105
Ah yes, the Wannabe poster.

>>734117276
assuming your not a troll and actually a fucking autistic nigger how does it feel knowing that you make people with actual gender dysphoria look fucking retarded. your the reason why trans people have such a hard time.

>>734122105
Its the Apache helicopter all over again. Its really demeaning...

>>734117276
You're a fuckin cringe mate

>>734122272
Gender fluid people have it harder than trans folk

>>734117276
Yes, yes it should. Then all the normies (who by far outnumber the "gendered") should chose some nice words as pronouns, and sue each and every "gendered's" ass off when they can't memorize the thousands and thousands of different pronouns at the first try. When they all are finally in jail, then the law can be removed.

>>734121217
Because they're occasionally born with an extra one of the two. Statistically speaking most of these people go on to be serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, 4chan trolls, and ______ rights activists.

>>734117276
Troll or not you should probably just kill yourself tbh fam

>>734122448
>Because they're occasionally born with an extra one of the two.
exactly true

>Statistically speaking most of these people go on to be serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, 4chan trolls, and ______ rights activists
i've never seen anything that suggests this.

>>734122517
Killing myself would just be the coward s way out. I d rather educate ignorants to respect my individuality.

>>734122380
i hope you die in a fire, you belong in an asylum

>>734118250
Your confusing personality/mood with gender.

>>734122846
Its a proven fact. Mood =\= gender

>>734117276
People like you should not contribute to the future

>>734117276
>Should using the wrong pronoun be punishable by law?

No, for a multitude of reasons. But mainly because 1. There's no way of knowing what pronouns someone wants to be called. and 2. It directly contradicts freedom of speech.

>>734122620
Really more in reference to XXX and XYY.
XYX usually winds up trying to conceal what they are (what you're referring to in this sense) from the world in most situations.

>>734123073
Doesn't matter though, all are mutations and technically defective.

>>734119266
I don't want women to hear/smell me taking a massive spicy shit.

>>734123057
Well it would be mandatory to ask ppl their preffered pronouns! It should be punishable just in case you missgender someone on purpose.

There's an XY chromosome, and an XX chromosome, apparently now there is also a BS chromosome too...

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>>734123356
X and Y are two different chromosomes.

You can learn about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

>>734117276
Fuck you. "You people" are the fucking cancer of the world.

>>734122731
my individuality says: when talking to me - speak to my asshole instead of my face. I demand that everyone respects that and who refuses to bow and speak to my listening hole is ignorant and should go to jail. Lets discuss it.

>>734123645
Nice hate speech m8

>>734123259

Misgendering is not a valid concern unless repeated. But that's just the same as bullying.

>>734123356
Don't pretend to know about genetics

>>734120026
I wish this were true. The problem with our extremists is that they are fucking useless in a fight. Put our Feminists/allies/LGBTQ against the rights hardcore racists and they will get bludgeoned to shit

>>734123711
What they claim to be literally doesn't even exist.

>>734117276
I think I'll regret falling for obvious bait but

Using this logic, how could a person be "genderfluid" and "non-bynary"?
if you go from one to another at times, it doesn't even matter if sometimes you're not any of them.

with that said, there are too many problems with gender nomenclature, and pronouns shouldn't even matter, ok, correcting people gently for pronouns, but getting offended is kinda stupid. Some people can't and won't get the pronouns right if that affectstheir talking skills, and if you find an asshole who'll get it wrong on purpose, you shouldn't talk to that person anyways

>>734123789
I agree. 1 ask for preffered pronouns 2 use said pronouns. No exceptions

>>734123259
>Well it would be mandatory to ask ppl their preffered pronouns!

Why? It's a waste of time when you can guess the pronouns of 99.9% people by looking at them.

And even if you use the wrong pronoun it causes no harm. At worst it's a mild annoyance.

And you still haven't responded to the free speech issue.

How the future will be.
Everyone will be silent, not speaking a word to each other, in fear that someone will assume what they say is discriminating them, leading to them being arrested.
Hell, in this day and age, I'm 'discriminated' against because of a severe mental handicap that leaves me with short-term memory loss so bad, I forget I'm doing something while doing it. But I know it's annoying and difficult for others, so I put up with it (even though I have to deal with it every second of my life, I've come to terms with it).

>>734124049
Speech should be free as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. If it does its hate speech

>>734123915

You didn't read it properly.
I disagree. Non-cis people are the ones breaking with the established norm.
That said, one should change used pronoun when asked to do so.

>>734123858
Thissss guy knows what's up
Sorry if you don't like the term 'guy'. I needed a term implying closeness

>>734117276
go suck a dick faggot like the gay boy you are

>>734118867
Everyday is summer when you are on /b

>>734118024
But you need it for orgasm. So, it is nothing to be ashamed of. Post it, faggot

>>734124208
>Speech should be free as long as it doesnt hurt anyone.

Right. And using the wrong pronouns doesn't hurt anyone.

>>734117276
Do you even science OP?
Also tits/dick or gtfo

>>734124479
It invalidates grnderfluids therefore it causes psychological pain and anguish.

>>734124479

Sadly, there are those who would find that statement hurtful.
:'( I'm shedding a tear for the rest of us

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>>734124642

>>734117276
tits or gtfo, you him-her.

>>734124370
I'm a guy, but I don't really care what pronouns are used for me

I've been verbally attacked for holding the door open to let people through. This one person, who looked like a woman, started shouting and screaming at me for holding the door open for them (when they were simply the last in a group of people who were walking through while I was waiting to get out), but when I said 'Sorry Miss', 'she' EXPLODED, demanding I check my privledge and not assume their gender, insisting I say 'sorry zir' and apologise for being a cis-bastard-male.
The joke is on 'Zer', I'm an FTM fully transitioned, and probably better equipped on the subjects 'zhe' was attempting to dress me down on, but I still had to stand there while 'zer' and friends belittled and stripped me of all self-confidence, when all I was doing was holding the door open in common courtesy before I could leave myself to get back to my job.

>>734124642
How does it invalidate you as a person? How does it affect your interpersonal relationships and your ability to draw breath and blink?

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>>734124642
>BuT mUh fEeLens

Man up you god damn Nancy. It's pansies like you that let the nazis do so much

#hitlerdidnothingwrong

>>734122305
It's meant as a parody of how stupid the tumblr genders are.

>>734122380
Genderfludity isn't a thing.

>>734124642

Then you are feeble characters who actively victimize yourselves.

When fellow white people call me "reindeer fucker" for my physical appearance, I respond by hinting that their spouse is worse at cooking than my hypothetical reindeer spouse.
Good times for the both of us

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I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

>>734117276
zeirs isn't a thing since there's theirs

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>>734117276

They should make a law saying If you are retarded enough to believe you arent one of two options of genders "male/female" then you should go to jail or pay a hefty fine. Stop this stupid fucking gender pronanoun garbage which is a waste of fucking time. You gender binary cucks.

>>734124991

I'm gonna hug you across the internet rn if that's alright

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>>734117276
I call a spade a spade

>>734124991
Yeah you can turn nigger and faggot into pronouns and as long as I know you're addressing me and not one of the other niggers or faggots, I'll answer.

>>734118024
>post
Dont you mean repost you fgt

>>734117276
So are you a male or female?

>>734117276
it shouldn't be illegal because of free speech. If you do that then you might as well outlaw insulting someone and once you do that anyone can just decide something was an insult arbitrarily and it would have legal consequences. That would be stupid. Just don't be their friend like anyone else. If someone insults me I just wouldn't be their friend. You're just proving once again that people like you think they're somehow more enlightened then other people and deserve special treatment. It's bs.

>>734125525
"ever since I was a boy..."

it's funny how some memes vcan viralize without the tinniest effort to be well made.

If you didn't understand, I meant that the person wouldn't be an attack helicopter, it would be genderfluid.

HOHOHO MERRY CHRASTIMAN?

>>734125985
pronouns are stablished language codes. It's not really that easy to stablish a new one, but good luck trying son

>>734125787
please do =3

>>734126194
Oh, no, you took it all wrong. I was intending to be condescending. You're the one trying to take this pasta serious.

>>734126470
>stablish
A new gender?

>>734117276
Sorry, but you are mentally ill. There are only 2 genders, male and female. If you "identify" as anything else, you need therapy. XX and XY is all there is, nothing more, nothing less.

>>734126736
I don't, I want it to be good

>>734117276
stick your head out of your ass snowflake.

>>734126752
all the "new" genders are kind of "I feel something between the two extremes", and there is non binary which is something I don't completely agree.

but you see, they did have enough effort to stablish "new" genders, didn't they?
you can do it, be strong <3

>>734118113
Using human excrement as fertilizer for food plants is illegal in the United States.

>>734117276
Pronouns should be a banable offense. Fags shouldn't have rights, if pedophiles don't have rights. You can't just draw the line where YOU want because then you're oppressing a sect of society with equally valid concepts and your whole way of life destroys itself. Git gud.

>>734127129
But it isn't in Mexico, where a LOT of fruit and vegetables come from. Chow down gringo.

>>734126613

*hug from straight cis male that is pro trans rights but detests attack helicopter behavior*

This is a special moment, lets cherish this while we still can

>>734117276
No bitch

>>734127356
I actualy agree with this person.

I'd agree even moreif you'd say "pedophiles who doesn't act on their wishes and/or make an effort to try and change"

>>734121120
You're pretty cute

>>734124642
>It invalidates grnderfluids therefore it causes psychological pain and anguish.

In order to charge someone with a crime for something, you would need to be able to prove that their action is a direct cause of significant harm to you.

Your assertion that using the wrong pronouns invalidates gender fluids and causes them psychological pain and anguish is like trying to charge someone with murder because they once smoked a cigarette in the car with you and now you have lung cancer. The link between the action and the harm is too tenuous, and there are too many other factors involved for the cause and effect to be direct enough for any sort of legal action to stick.

>>734127595
The "trying to change" mostly stems from oppression in the first place. What do you mean acting on their wishes?

>>734127528
Thank you, this is the cutest moment I've had in 4chan in a long time

*hugging back*