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Get bent. All admins have back channels including Obama. Go away Shillary

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>>733887277
good riddance

It's fascinating how everything trump does is no big deal but Hillaries mails are the dawn of Western civilization.

Still want to bang him.

>>733887325
Maybe, but even so why lie about the meeting? Why continue to deny it? Especially when the campaign has been accused of colluding with Russia

>>733887583
That's because trumps supporters want to be cucked by trump.

>>733887777
GODLY QUADS.

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>>733887777
>>733887777
>>733887777
>>733887777

Good thing we don't have Hillary in office otherwise there would be scandal after scandal with constant lawsuits against her and talks of collusion with our enemies. Finally a President we can be proud of.

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>>733887277
Undisclosed meetings discussing secret back channels that he "doesn't recall"? Confirmed fucked

>>733887277
You posted this yesterday and got btfo

>>733887277
say "eye" then spell cup.

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>>733889078
>implying Trump chuds have any defense beyond "he a gud boi, he dindu nuffin"

>>733888146
These "scandals" are manufactured by the liberal media.

>>733887277
Who?

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>>733889078

>>733888146
should have been sanders vs kasich. then we could go back to thinking politics is for nerds.

>>733889011
No crime had been committed

>>733889190
Exactly..funny when Russia denies collusion charges everyone thinks they are lying...when one of them gives a story that might harm Trump all of a sudden it is newsworthy lol. You can't make this shit up. In fact you can never ever again really trust the news in this country. News reports are now taken straight from the opinion section and put on the front page as BREAKING NEWS.

>>733889078
>btfo
Uh huh. Did everyone stand up and start clapping when you totally rekt OP?

>>733889231
Knowingly falsifying or concealing information on a SF-86 questionnaire is a felony, punishable by up to five years in prison

>>733887277
ever think they're just naive and got taken advantage of by professional government people who pretended to be nice to them?

>>733887277
The deadest eyes in Washington. He has to go.

>>733889231
that's TBD shit-for-brains

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>>733889190
>>733889314
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/817579925771341825?lang=en

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/16/russians-also-tried-hack-republican-national-committee-failed/

>>733887583
That's because it isn't really about Trump being a good president. Those supporters that defend literally every ridiculous thing he does, seemingly without any sort of critical thought, do so because they see themselves in him. For years they've had to sit and listen to politicians talk in fancy college words that they don't understand about very complex issues that they don't have the ability to pay attention to. In Trump, these people see what appears to someone "telling it like it is" because his constant self promotion and gross oversimplification of complex issues are the same tactics that they use in their everyday lives.
To them, every issue is simple: Why have all the jobs dried up in your town? "The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and their TAXES!"
Why is it so hard for those in poverty to pull themselves out? "Because they're all lazy NIGGERS!" Why did you get all those girls pregnant and then refuse to take care of the children? "Because I'm Alpha as FUCK! Also, this is AMERICA! Go back you where you came from!" etc. etc.
So while they think Trump is here to finally validate their extremely simplistic worldview, and indeed "Make America Great Again", they will completely ignore or rationalize actions that would make them furious if done by anyone else. The end result is that we have a huge group of idiots who would gladly sit back and watch as Trump and his team enrich themselves at their expense, ruin our relationships with our allies while simultaneously assisting our enemies, repeal worker protections and laws that encourage businesses to stay in the U.S., and just generally make life miserable for everyone but the mindless evangelicals and the super rich, and they'll look you in the eye and tell you that he's a great president as the country burns. He could literally rape a baby on the oval office desk while signing a treaty giving Russia all of our Nuclear weapons and they would find some way to defend it.

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>>733889774
Basically it's Dubya 2.0

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>>733889774
This

>>733887277
Calling it now, the entire White House is going to pile onto this Jew

The naive little boy, thinking white elites have his back.

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>>733887777
His little brother is way sexier

>>733889190
>These "scandals" are manufactured by the liberal media.
white water
benghazi
travel gate
monica lewinsky
email scandal

yeah, I guess we forgot about all the clinton scandals the media covered ad nausea um .

I'm no fan of the clintons but i'm not a trump cuck either. its nice to be able to look at things objectively with out being blinded by ideology.
you should try it

It's all about group loyalty now. Not nation, not politics, not even ideology anymore. It's all "us" versus "them" now.

I see no way to avoid a civil war now. A few million Americans will die soon - at the hands of a few million other Americans.
It's an amusing coincidence that this war will include some elements in common with Titors war.

>>733889231
>No crime had been committed
its not always about the crime. its shady sleazy politics at the very least

i bet you'd feel differently of it were Obama or Hillary

so much for draining the swamp huh?

>>733889231
technically no crime had been committed when hillary had an email server in her home. doesnt mean its ok..

>>733890588
>technically no crime had been committed when hillary had an email server in her home.

yeah but it was hillary so its the worst thing that could have ever happened to the world.

>>733887777
Wasted by a faggot

>>733890323
Deflecion that has no bearing on what is currently going on while stating 'I don't support the orangutan, but...'

Typical Trumptard detected.

Got to admit, I voted for Trump, but now that I've seen what a mess his presidency has been, I'm all for impeachment. I'm willing to admit I've made a terrible mistake, and so should the rest of you.

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>>733890896
get on board now.

looks like kushner is going to have a back channel opened up in prison

>>733890896
Sure you did. Only ignorant shit libs who have no understanding of the law are screaming about impeachment.

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>>733891008
I'd eat her and the brats.

>>733890003
Not even close. Much worse.

>>733890588
Actually a crime was commited as well as when 30k emails were deleted under subpoena.

>>733890746
Well no, a crime was commited.

>>733890323
Those were actually scandals. Clinton was impeached for one.

>>733891272
nope, she would have been tried and convicted if a crime had been committed.

>>733891297
no, a crime was not committed. do you not understand "innocent until proven guilty" or do you just hate america?

>>733889774
This is why you continue to lose elections. You are so out of touch wirjb reality.

>>733891413
just remember this post 2 years from now after the midterm elections have happened. its like a pendulum.

>>733891268
Dubya was a good President. Then Iraq war was a success until the Obama pullout led to the rise of ISIS.

>>733891186
You know the president doesn't have to break a law to get impeached?

>>733890432
There isn't anything shady. The entire Russia nonsense is nothing but a conspiracy at this point

>>733887583
>but Hillaries mails are the dawn of Western civilization.
Did you just throw Hillary's name in with a saying you once heard?

>>733890361
Extract from Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith
Paris Nov. 13. 1787.

the people can not be all, & always, well informed. the part which is wrong [. . .] will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it’s natural manure.

>>733889532
every day

>>733889432
Boy he didn't

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>>733887277
yup

>>733889372
>>733889372
Is this the "evidence" of so-called collusion?

>>733890822
you misunderstood you, nook.

i was point out that to the whiner about the liberal media covering trump scandals , that the media also covered plenty of scandals regarding the clintons.

>>733887325
Ohhh, thank you for the clarification! Armchair basement retard political analyst. You have no idea what the fuck you're on about.

>>733891628
Sure seems like he did. Oh that's right,according to his lawyer, he "forgot" about these conversations with Russians, so I'm sure it was an honest mistake

>>733891587
lying on disclosures isn't shady? Sessions, Flynn, and now Kushner. Seems to be a pattern.

>>733891186
>Only ignorant shit libs who have no understanding of the law are screaming about impeachment.

its more than the law. its being a president that puts america first which he clearly does not.
its time for him to go back

>>733891697
The thing is these scandals are manufactured

>>733891331
>Those were actually scandals
oh, but the current scandals are not scandals.
got it.
fucktard.

I actually don't believe they'll find evidence of true collusion. I do think that they will find a fuckton of financial crimes, laundering, tax evasion, sanctions violations, etc. I also think that in an effort to make this all go away Mueller will present a strong case that Trump obstructed justice.

>>733891691
Evidence is known to Mueller, some FBI staff, and some congressmen. The contacts those individuals had with Russia, and the payments they received, certainly point toward collusion though, and obstruction of justice in the coverup

>>733891719
Sessions didn't lie. The form asks about unofficial contacts.

>>733891783
manufactured by the russians to make them seem more powerful when their country is literally falling apart. they swindled a retarded narcissist who thought he could be president because he was a successful real estate agent.

>>733891516
>Dubya was a good President. Then Iraq war was a success until the Obama pullout led to the rise of ISIS.

maybe the saddest bait ive seen in months

>>733891783
Like or the moon landing, and anything else I don't want to believe?

>>733891746
The left has become unhinged with their impeachment talk. It will backfire ok them.

>>733891587
>There isn't anything shady
firing the FBI director because you're pissed off that he is investigating your campaign. that's assuming that he and or his campaign is not guilty of anything.
no, not shady at all.

>>733891587
So was Pizza gate, but you still had people "self investigating" with firearms.

>>733891869
Oh ya bush did 9 1 1 right?

>>733891932
everything backfires in politics. theyll probably bring down trump then pence will get reelected in 2020, if the impeachment agenda even works.

>>733891715
To that I say
>Ignorantia juris non excusat

Fuck 'em.

>>733891860
No manufactured by the left to save face for their political ass kicking and using zero evidence to try and slander a President

>>733891845
Wrong. He was supposed to include his contacts with Russian officials, and he omitted them instead

>>733887325

you know, I could have seen myself giving the benefit of the doubt to you trump people before he got elected, but with the shit-storm of scandal, an his own inability to go a week without incriminating himself somehow, I have no choice to be assume that anyone who is STILL a trump supporter at this point is
A: lost in a downright disturbing sea of denial, a gallon jug of "The Koolade" they just can't stop chugging in each hand.
B: just fucking trolling.

>>733889190
So, assuming you are not trolling for the sake of argument, what is more likely, logically speaking. Occam's Razor and such.
A: Trump is actually the hero, victim to a vast global conspiracy to spread "fake news" about him, participated in by nearly every single news outlet in the free world except fox news and a few other unabashedly alt-right news outlets, from the lowliest reporter with a phone mic to the richest ceo, even going sofar as to, I suppose you will argue, somehow fake Trump, with his own words, on video, bragging about blatant obstruction of justice.
B: Trump really is the unqualified, corrupt, narcissistic imbecile everyone has been trying to warn you he was, and now you have to defend him to the bitter end, no mater what retarded thing he does, even on camera, lest you look like an imbecile of equivalent calabre for voting for him and preaching his fake news gospel

>>733891845
lies by omission are still lies, you duplicitous fuckface

>>733891845
>Sessions didn't lie
he did. he said he had no contacts during his confirmation hearing. that's why he recused himself
come on guy, atleast demonstrate some intellectual honesty

>>733891516
His administration created an economic shitstorm and he dragged us into two unneccesary wars for the sake of oil money and munitions contracts

In what way do you think George "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully", Bush Jr was a good president?

("Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.")

>>733891186
>Sure you did. Only ignorant shit libs who have no understanding of the law are screaming about impeachment.

And only basement dwelling armchair legal scholars think impeachment has anything to do with "the law"

>>733892012
Hats why so many republicans support the investigation and want comey to testify. Got it.

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>>733892012
>try and slander
first, its "try to slander"

also
>the left
pic related, its your pastor.

>>733891869
That's actually accurate. In 2008 Iraq had less killings than chicago. Iraq was one of the most stable countries in the region till the Obama pullout. Most said that cutting and running would have that effect

>>733892012
Like Obama's birth certificate?

>>733887583
When Trump commits a crime get back to me.

>>733889428
No source? FAKE NEWS SAD!

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>>733892073
he's just a liar defending liars. should we even be surprised?

>>733892015
You forgot..
C: Ivan

>>733891932
>The left has become unhinged with their impeachment talk. It will backfire ok them.
good, so the left loses AND this idiot gets tossed before he does anymore damage to my country.
sounds like a win win to me.

>>733891884
There Russia collusion nonsense had zero evidence, even the Democrats admit it. The goal posts are being moved to "get" Flynn.

>>733891960
Where there Congressional hearings on pizzas? No.

>>733892196
funny, why is he seeking immunity and pleading the 5th?

>>733892014
False that's not what the form asks. As is senator in an official capacity those meetings aren't listed.

>>733887277
he is evil just look at his eyes. he has to go to set Trump free.

>>733892015
Comey admitted that Trump didn't obstruct anything.

>>733892116
One might suggest that the greater blame rests on the person that got us in that situation to begin with, then set up a withdrawal timeline his successor was obliged to follow.

>>733892068
In this case it was never in the scope of the questionnaire.

>>733892116
>till the Obama pullout
it was bush's fault we were there in the first place not mention it was actually Bush's pullout. the order was signed by BUSH.
by the way, you are probably the only person in the world that thought the iraq war was going swimmingly in 2008.

>>733890323
Except those things actually happened.
Bill Clinton dicked uggo then lied under oath about it. Crime. The Clintons were involved with the whitewater firm, which was shady enough to get people arrested. Lady Macbeth did lie about benghazi and get an innocent man arrested. The emails violated several laws.
Trump-Russia has absolutely no evidence at all, beyond the 50/50 chance the Ruskies hacked the DNC and it wasn't leaked by Seth Rich. Find any evidence of a crime, then get back to me.

>>733892073
No he didn't. You always ignore the question that was asked. He was truthful in his response to that question

>>733892370
then he also said that he did try to obstruct the flynn investigation. he said both things.

I dont know what to believe anymore. there are no reliable sources that dont interject their own perspective anymore. just wait until the mueller investigation is over.

>>733892370
>Comey admitted that Trump didn't obstruct anything
he didn't say that trump never tried though. the attempt is the shitty part. remember, drain the swamp.

What is this bizarre obsession you people have with the clintons?

>>733892082
Both wars were justified and necessary.

Presidents are not responsible for economic recessions

>>733887325
What's the trump equivalent of CTR?

>inb4 "4chan"

>>733892100
Comey had already cleared Trump of obstruction

>>733892553
>Both wars were justified and necessary.
This is simply not true.

>>733892453
>Trump-Russia has absolutely no evidence at all,
oh, so i guess flynn is still the NSA.

>>733892453
>Find any evidence of a crime, then get back to me.

There's a pretty clear case to be made that for obstruction of justice in how he handled comey.

>>733891966
>disregarded reports from multiple intelligence agencies warning of the attack
>ordered no interceptors
>continued his PR campaign as the country was attacked
>destroyed evidence before investigation was conducted
Even if he didn't, he still completely bungled 9/11. Something he'd repeat when Katrina hit.

>>733892388
People die in war and the war was justified.

>>733891746
You're wrong. The president can only be impeached for committing treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. Find the crimes doofus.

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>>733889774
Fucking Shills.

>>733892370
When you get on MSNBC and tell you interviewer that you dismissed Comey because "This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won." that is strait up and down obstruction of justice. Like, if i needed to explain the concept of obstruction to a munch of middle schoolers, this is exactly the kind of simple, easy to understand, clear example of obstruction i would use.
These are trumps own words, spoken openly in his interview with lester holt. He admits, nay, brags he fired Comey to make the investigation go away.
open and shut. The point of obstruction isn't really arguable at this point. he is, by his own confession, guilty.

>>733892476
>He was truthful in his response to that question
yes and lied while answering the question.

"are you poor?"
"No. I have a million dollars."

truth: i'm not poor(answered the question)
Lie: i don't have a million dollars

get it now?

>>733891952
That's not why he was fired retard. Citation needed.

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>>733892643
>no WMD's found
>no connection to OBL & 9/11

>>733892643
>the war was justified.
Saying something doesn't make it true.

>>733887325
yes, they are official channels though. Not juts some random dude who happens to be your son in law with existing business ties who you gave a job in the midst of tons of shit coming together who happens to seek one out himself while he doesn't even have an official position in the government....

>>733892445
No the liberal Brookings institute after with me.

There pullout could have been overturned easily. It was engineered by the Democrats to gain a "victory". Everyone days pulling out would create what we've seen so far. Isis is a creation of liberal cut and run policies

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>>733892453
>Trump-Russia has absolutely no evidence at all
and you KNOW this how?

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>>733892643
>justified

>>733892599
No it doesn't, that's the whole point.

>>733892526
Because they won't go away.

>>733892653
>The president can only be impeached for committing treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. Find the crimes doofus.

first of all, my post had nothing to with impeachment rather his ineffectiveness as a leader and his shady dealings. I was stating that that IS the issue here. that is why YOU should have a problem with him.

also, you can be impeached with out committing a crime, idiot.

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>>733892711
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-reveals-he-asked-comey-whether-he-was-under-investigation-n757821

here is your citation faggot. watch your big, greasy, orange Idol incriminate himself on national TV for yourself. I'm sure you will find some way to claim this is fakes somehow to tho. Keep chugging away at that koolade...

>>733892589
It is true

>>733892795
>start two unwinnable wars
>blame the opposition for not staying to clean up the mess you made

>>733892711
Trump said in the interview with lester holt. come on guy, pay attention.

>>733892599
Tie Trunp to it, or fuck off. Right now the only evidence has Flynn acting alone. >>733892622
No there isn't. Comey got fired for sucking at his job and overseeing the almost deliberately botched clinton investigation. And since when are you pinkos defending Comey? Two weeks ago you wanted his head on a pike.

>>733892653
>You're wrong. The president can only be impeached for committing treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. Find the crimes doofus.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Impeachment has always been a political tool. Other crimes and misdeamoners literally means "anything congress has the political will to impeach for". The only thing needed for impeachment is a majority of the house willing to impeach and 2/3 of the senate willing to convict.

>>733892622
Not according to Comey, the deputy director or the assistant attorney general. All under oath have said that nothing Trump did obstructed anything

>>733892806
Now I know you're a shill. Hasn't CTR died already?

>>733887277
rite

>>733892122
obstruction of justice

No? still doesnt matter to you trumptards? ok cool

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>>733892557
pic related

>>733892795
>There pullout could have been overturned easily
yes you are correct but the anon put all the blame on obama. i countered that point. you are now making another point.

>>733892636
9/11 was planned under the common admin, Clinton let Osama get away with it.

9/11 was handled very well and Katrina was demicrats run nonsense.

>>733892122
>When Trump commits another crime get back to me.
ftfy

>>733892841
Your post made it sound like he can be impeached for being a shit president, which is false. Where does the constitution say you can be impeached without committing a crime? Cite sources.

>>733892942
>Not according to Comey, the deputy director or the assistant attorney general. All under oath have said that nothing Trump did obstructed anything

All of that was before he fired comey. Before he Lester holt interview and before he Oval Office meeting with the Russians.

>>733892869

You got a point. Them dollars aren't going to siphon themselves now are they.

>>733892196
It's an ongoing investigation that already looks very damning for the trump team. But tell yourself whatever stories you need to.

>>733892899
>Tie Trunp to it, or fuck off.
trump hired flynn.
i can't believe i had to explain this to you.

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>>733891587
It may be a conspiracy but there are people in power taking it very seriously.

And yes, granted, it might all be bullshit; It migth even be the biggest pile of bullshit ever fabricated for human consumption.

But this will not stop them from using the bullshit as a tool to remove the president who is, if you have not noticed it yet, deeply unpopular within the leading factions of his own party let alone the opposition.

So, if it's all bullshit, why did Trump fire Comey? Either it is a blatant attempt at shutting down an ongoing investigation, which is a criminal offence; Or it was a serious political blunder which, although not illegal, is a clear indication that Trump is so utterly out of his depths that we should all be concerend.

Russia interfered with the elections, true. (if you say there is no proof i invite you to come suck the proof out of my dick; It is beyond debate that russia tried to meddle because it is currently the DHS conclusion that russia meddled. If you want your then proof contact the DHS).

Several Trump aides lied about meeting Russian diplomats, true.

Trump said to the same russian diplomats that he fired Comey becuase of the russian investigation, true.

All of this does not mean that Trump colluded with the russians.

But if there wa sno collusion then Trump would be wise to inform his aides and cabinet members to stop stop omitting meetings with russians. It just makes him look guilty as hell.

Maybe releasing his tax returns would sooth some concernewd minds as well, just saying.

Look, I'm not rabidly anti-trump. I want a strong president that will lead the country well.

It's just all that I see from Trump is self-aggrandization and petulance. Yes, you had 18 million people at your inauguration. Yes, the liberal media is plotting with Isis to estroy the country. Yes, you are the worst treated politican in the history of the world.

Just shut up and try leading the country, please.

>>733892728
Wmd were found. Saddam supported palestine terrorism and most of all was in violation of UN resolutions.

>>733892304
Yeah, that's bullshit, which is why he recused himself. Why do you think the government doesn't care about hush-hush meetings with Russian offficals exactly? Because this is shit he was supposed to disclose.

>>733892711
Trump literally said so in an interview. There's a video. Go look it up on youtube.

>>733892881
Same thing happened in Vietnam. I don't agree with the Hawks for getting us there, but you can't cut and run like the Doves want. You create a power vacuum that will be filled by the scum of the earth.

>>733892881
It's was won, the surge worked. Iraq had less killings in 2008 than chicago

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>>733892899
>Praise Comey for his handling of the Clinton case.
>Repeatedly quote Comey on his handling of the Clinton case.
>Express your full confidence in Comey.
>Get investigated by Comey for treason.
>Fire Comey citing his disgraceful handling of the Clinton case.
wew lad

>>733893129
And? Also you know flynns legal troubles have to do with payments from Turkey now. Right?

>>733891825
I think you are quite right

>>733893203
No it's not bullshit. It's Democrats spliting hairs

>>733893211
Vietnam fell to Communism and fuck all happened. The Domino Theory did not turn out to be true. We could have never gone to Vietnam at all and the result would have been the same.

>>733893101
>Your post made it sound like he can be impeached for being a shit president, which is false. Where does the constitution say you can be impeached without committing a crime? Cite sources.
Andrew Johnson. Who was impeached because basically congress didn't like him.

>>733887277
But hey, now that Jareds going to prison and Melania is in New York Trump finally gets Ivanka to himself

>>733893284
>payments from Turkey now
>now
There's your key word. Good try though.

>>733893240
If those memos exist... Still haven't been produced after weeks btw... Those memos will show Comey purjured himself.

>>733893101
>Your post made it sound like he can be impeached for being a shit president, which is false. Where does the constitution say you can be impeached without committing a crime? Cite sources
that wasn't the intention of my post. I was makingthe point that impeachment is not the only issue. that fact that he has done some shitty things is an issue.
however, to answer your question...the 25th amendment states that a president can be impeached if he is incapable of executing the duties of the office.
fuck you.

>>733892304
so Sessions recused himself fromt he russia investigation because of a poor tummy then?

>>733891587
Yes it's a conspiracy by the administration. Do you not know what the word conspiracy means ?

>>733891825
Frankly , as far as I am concerned, the Russia investigation kina no longer maters.Interesting, and deserving of investigation, but its not what he is going to be impeached for. He is going to be kicked out for obstruction. Trump is to monumentally stupid to realize it, but in that interview with Lester Holdt, he ended his own presidency.

>>733893101
>Your post made it sound like he can be impeached for being a shit president, which is false. Where does the constitution say you can be impeached without committing a crime? Cite sources.
He can be impeached for whatever congress wants to impeach him for.

>>733893240
Thus guy gets it. Trump was singing Comey's praises until he yurned to trump. Now all the republicunts hate him too, after being so happy about the Clunton invetigation. What a bunch of sheep

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>>733887509
Kek

>>733887277
Yes, he gets fucked by Ivanka unlike the OP

>>733893284
>Also you know flynns legal troubles have to do with payments from Turkey now. Right?

yes as well as from RUssia. you left out the russia part. good try though, fraud.

>>733891825
There is no evidence or even an accusation of any of those other crimes you listed. There also is no proof of obstruction of justice. The people involved in the investigation even admit it. Even Comey admits it.

>>733893438
>Still haven't been produced after weeks btw
See, retarded shit like this is what has me convinced that most trump-tards are really just long con trolls....

>>733893368
That's not the point and you know it. Argue all you want about if the war was necessary. The real point is you can't run away after you create the mess. The Khmer Rouge was a result of cutting and running.

>>733893441
>the 25th amendment states that a president can be impeached if he is incapable of executing the duties of the office.
That's not what it states at all.

>>733893370
Andrew Johnson violated the Tenure of Office Act.

>>733891589
I think we all know the answer to that!

>>733892854
So he asked if he was being investigated...that proves what? Trump had plenty of valid reasons to boot comey. For fucks sake, even Eric Holder called him an embarrassment. >>733892913
Citation needed

>>733893480
He's not going to be impeached. Nobody has claimed Trump had committed obstruction of justice. There is zero evidence of that m

>>733893561
no he didnt, he was found not guilty.

>>733893479
Yes made to bullshit, like the Russia collusion nonsense.

>>733892553
>both wars were justified and necessary.

Oh yeah? How so? Justified by the magically disappearing WMD's that one taxi driver told us about? Neccessary because of all the strategic gains and political capital the US earned whilst destroying the stability of the region and helping the extrajudicial murder of a soverign leader?

>>733892991
You haven't proven that one yet. I'm not a Trumper, just logical. I didn't even vote for the guy.

>>733893558
actually it does
President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

>>733889176
lol, defend him? why not just let him take all the flak and get back to business as usual? with banon back in his rightful place even.

>>733887277
yeah, nothing is gonna happen to him

>>733893540
>There is no evidence or even an accusation of any of those other crimes you listed. There also is no proof of obstruction of justice. The people involved in the investigation even admit it. Even Comey admits it.
There's plenty of circumstantial evidence that manafort, Flynn, kushner, cohen and a few other trump people were involved in some very shady business deals with various Russian oligarchs.

>>733891831
There were no payments from Russia. We've already explained why the obstruction of justice nonsense won't hold up.

>>733893142
no, pipes were found that "could have been used to make missiles". They couldn't even find the weapons we gave them which the UN inspectors had to admit that they got rid of them as instructed. And if WMDs are something worth invading a country for well why aren't nations justified in attacking the US ? Or the fact we supported basically every terrorist group world wide off and on since wwII

>>733893480
>delusional

>>733893129
And.....so you run a buisness. Your employee murders people in your truck without your knowledge. By your logic you're a murderer.

>>733893690
Since the Republicans control both, this is a non point when it comes to Trump/

>>733893687
different anon here and i agree with you but regardless of a law being broken or not, he still did some major shit that is not befitting of the office.

>>733891831
None of the contacts point to anything it if the ordinary and definitely nothing that can be proven.

>>733893690
>>>733893558 (You) #
>actually it does
>President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
No it doesn't. It says that a majority of the cabinet can declare him unfit. The president can then challenge that and force a vote in congress to decide if he is fit.
It has nothing to do with impeachment.

>>733893767
Sarin never had was also found. And before this say those were the wrong wmds they were still banned under the agreements Saddam signed

>>733893557
Not everyone gets a happy ending. The alternative was to continue wasting money and lives fighting a conflict we had no business in. Maybe next time we'll have the sense to not topple the dictator keeping things relatively peaceful.

>>733893723
No there isn't. There is no evidence of any is that.

>>733893687
original anon. and yes, agreed. but nothing to this point has given me any reason to doubt that any of these allegations aren't true. in fact, trump himself confirms half of them. but point taken, we'll have to let this play out.

>>733893799
>And.....so you run a buisness. Your employee murders people in your truck without your knowledge. By your logic you're a murderer

it shows poor judgement by the president(not a good quality)
and yes, i could be liable for damages using your example

>>733893642
If he was found not guilty it means he was impeached to get to that point. To impeach is basically getting ot the point that congress has to decide on your fate. It alone isn't a charge nor does it mean you'll be removed from office

>>733893815
I agree. I think he's awful, but better than the alternative.

>>733893929
yes there is, thats why theyre investigating this shit.

>>733893811
>Since the Republicans control both, this is a non point when it comes to Trump
not really true but either way, that has nothing to do with the point I made.

>>733892991
Everyone involved with the investigation had said he nothing was obstructed.

>>733893892
No it wasn't. We also had agreements with the Russians for reducing our nuclear stockpiles. Russia followed their end, we didn't.

>>733893866
>No it doesn't. It says that a majority of the cabinet can declare him unfit. The president can then challenge that and force a vote in congress to decide if he is fit.
>It has nothing to do with impeachment.

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>>733893967
we are innocent until proven guilty in the united states. johnson was not proven guilty. youre basically doing the same shit as when people automatically assume a guy raped a girl just because the girl said so.

>>733893753
the collusion isn't going to bring him down. it's the obstruction of justice that will bring him down, exactly like it did with nixon. nixon told the cia to interfere with an fbi investigation, and days after that tape came out he resigned. trump admitted several times on national tv that he fired comey because he was investigating flynn and russia. when the dems win back the house in the midterms and have subpoena power to actually investigate him fully, and trump ceases to be a useful idiot, the gop will turn on him and your big fat manbaby of a hero will be out on his dumb ass.

>>733893105
So Comey committed purjery? And no two of those testimonies we after the firing.

>>733889314
two words. birth certificate.

payback's a bitch innit?

>>733893111
Don't need to, the investigation hasnt revealed anything damning at all. Even Democrats have admitted there is no evidence of wrong doing by Trump.

>>733893950
Not unless you had any knowledge. At best you might get sued in civil court, which would likely be an uphill battle, though I do see your point. That gets very case by case.

>>733893924
So you're saying that genocide is ok because we have to wash our hands of a war we shouldn't have been in? I sometimes wonder what gets inside the head of doves.