Judo vs Wrestling. Which one wins in an aggressive confrontation?

Guns

wrastlin.

at any time another wrestler can come in and interrupt the match or grab a chair.

what the fuck is judo? nigga is that some sort of side dish you order with cum?

Joe Rogan birch bbj

>>733531110
judo in the first second wrestling in the rest

>>733531110
there's a lot of different kinds of wrestling

>>733531162
this. guns are way more aggressive, guns kill way more people than wreatling and judo combined

>>733531110
judo has submissions, but i think the wrestler would probably end up on top throwing punches. hard to say

>>733531528
Nigga cant throw fists if hes in an armbar ;)

>>733531257

Joe Rogan's givin bareback blowjobs?

>>733531110
TKDbrah.

>>733531630
judoka dont tend to be all that great from the bottom tbh

Wrestling for sure. Judo can't take down a wrestler. Once the judo is on the ground it's over. Unless they know some bjj but if the wrestler is strong enough it doesn't even matter judo is still done.

>>733531973
>Judo can't take down a wrestler
not entirely true

>Once the judo is on the ground it's over
why do you say that?

>>733531704
link?

>>733532081
Because the rules of wrestling say he's not allowed to stand up and kick you in the head.

>>733532178
i dont think you know what judo is

>>733532081
you have all that backwards

isn't judo all about throws and shit? that's going to be useless against a wrestler, he's just gonna pin you if you try to throw him

Well I am going to be crosstraining Judo twice a week and BJJ once every week. Feel like that covers both Ground and Takedown as well as strike

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>>733532081
you forgot the
> if the wrestler is strong enough it doesn't even matter judo is still done

the whole fucking ideology of judo is that the opponent is stronger than you and yet you find ways to fuck him up

i doing for 3 years judo kodogan and i have fucked up boxers, kick boxers and many more in less than 5 minuets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UwxDGGcEIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMLzQD6o4Ts

heres a couple videos of judo vs wrestling

>>733531110
but wrestling is just autistic acrobatic shit like in circus , doesnt work if partner doesnt do the same
its like you asked : tennis player vs basketball player , who wins ?

>>733532582
neither of those do striking

>>733531110
Are you a fucking cow? Judo is self defence while wrestling (not wwe) is a sport between two men.

>>733532817
Even though Judo is a self defence martial art, I would argue that Wrestling is one of the more dominating Clinch martial arts

>>733532817
they have some similarities

>>733532081
Wrestlers usually have really good balance and they have a good base. Judo can't really shake off a wrestler from the bottom. Too much pressure. Wrestler can just keep pounding away and eventually put the judo person in a rear naked choke. I'm not saying it's impossible but that's how it should go typically.

depends on a person. I wrestle once a week and do bjj twice a week, and wresting training is really REALLY hard. Wrestling may have slight advantage just on amount of hard work average wrestler puts on

>>733531110
one judo chop and the match is over so that answers your question

>>733531110
judo needs some clothes on the enemy to catch for throwing and stuff. when the opponent is nearly naked then judo is total useless.

https://youtu.be/-zElqmU57HY

>>733533236
Yea wrestlers have the best endurance out of any discipline IMO

Answer me this, Im 240lb (by no means fat) and 6ft 3. How would this play into a strength for Judo and BJJ? I am sure weight doesnt mean shit towards someone who knows what they are doing

>>733531110
Wrestling has more in common with jiu jitsu

>>733533421
Jui jitsu is the transition after wrestling. You wrestle someone to the ground and then put them into submission.

>>733533383
it matters but someone who is actually skilled can overcome a size difference. skill + size is an amazing combo tho

>>733533352
i could not imagine myself wretling more than once a week. I am tall and a bit clumsy, double leg takedowns are hell on my knees and toes

>>733533262
they certainly rely on it quite a bit but a lot of submissions dont require clothes

>>733533383
Step 1: punch your ballsac
Step 2: punch your ballsac again
Step 3: walk away with your gf

>>733533383
Whats more important is balance, flexibility, and speed. Sure, its a lot easier to pin someone down and get in their guard if youre 200+ lbs, but ive seen skinny twigs mop the floor with big ol dudes just because they go to the ground and can twist and move so much farther and faster than a big guy

>>733531328

and everyone one of them is gay.

I do Judo and Jits
All these are amazing
Grappling is the shit
I love wrestling too
I will add that I am able to use some of my Judo no gi against wrestlers
Wrestlers are the best to train with because of their pressure
But I'm great off my back so south worry I can get wrestlers off me even if they take me down

>>733533545
Still, jiu jitsu and wresting are sister arts, while judo is still similar, its a little further removed

>>733532600
>boxers, kick boxers.

no wrestlers tho huh

>>733532582
judo and bjj are grappling arts, you need some TKD or boxing...

>>733531110

Wrestling is a sport, Judo is a martial art. Training in any martial art will be more useful than training in wrestling. Wrestling moves aren't designed to seriously injure, judo is.

Some wrestling moves are useful in a bar fight, but all judo moves are useful in any hand to hand fight.

>>733534172
this is ignorant af go look up some suplexes and try again

>>733531110
Judo is primary stand up to ground.
Wrestling assuming you mean jujitsu (brazilian) goes all the way none stop until the fight is finished. A take down is usually not complete because skilled players can scramble into a guard even if they go down. The take down is usually a tiny part of a match. Judo is more fun because it's over by take down due to rules. Judo is extremely fun, and awesome none the less.

What about sambo?

The question is olympic wrestler vs olympic judo
Assuming it's no gi the wrestler gets the take down
But Judo wins on the ground if it's a fight
And Judo is a very close relative to all Jujitsus
Wrestling doesn't share any roots with Jujitsu
Even though catch wrestling is basically no gi jujitsu, they don't share the same orgins at all
Idiots

Sambo is bad ass
Catch Wrestling is bad ass too

What would you guys consider is the best combination for mixed martial arts? I suppose muay thai must be in there

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>>733531110
the way to win a fight is the one you talk your way out of

>>733533876
Well without being too arrogant I am flexible and fast enough despite being 240

>>733531110
Neither, a jab to the throat.

>>733534954
muay thai, boxing, wrestling, bjj.

Drop wrestling after 2-3 years and put more time on the mats for bjj. Focus boxing over MT too, but never drop the MT.

>>733534954
BJJ and Boxing
Take em down, keep em down, they remain down

>>733531110
>source: 100th degree dragon belt in bjj

Every rasslin guy I've rolled with has a good standup game, has solid takedowns, and is good at staying on top. Their problem is they don't know what to do if they're ever in closed guard or in any position on the bottom.

Judo guys are equally good at takedowns, but don't train in more than a few basic guards and submissions.

I would say rassilin would win for the simple fact that they train exclusively without a gi, which is more applicable to real life and negates a lot of judo's intricate grip fighting.

>>733535135
how would you respond to kicks ?

>>733535229
call the police

Unless you are in a confrontation with a Muay Thai boxer or TKD Black Belt, I dont really think kicks are an issue.
But I must say, I'd rather not be kicked in the head ;)

Hey anons!

got the best insider for this question, stating that i used to be an olympic wrestler, so here whats up, we used to fight/ grapple with the bjj guys all the time, biggest difference is strength and aggression, we were 10x stronger then them and generally more able to control the matt, on the other hand once they get you into a hold you shit out of luck, so id say in a fist fight wrestling would win 8/10 times with the 2 margin of error! :)

>>733535191
I agree there, but if Mr rasslin starts shit, unless its on the beach, hes gonna have a t-shirt on, and if he is daft enough to take his t-shirt off, there enough time to pop his elbow out, then hows he gonna AA me?

>>733535786
That must be a Bias opinion for a heavy trained athlete. I would argue that if you were not as adept in Wrestling but still trained in the sport you would not be able to counter someone on top with their legs over your chest and face yanking at your joints, granted if you are in that position you must be a shit wrestler for getting yourself taken down and wrapped up to begin with :)

>>733533262
Clearly you don't know dick about judo. It's straight physics. Get them moving and put something in front of them.

>>733535786
sorry! thought it said bjj, but same goes for judo as well they used to spar with us and it was literally no competition, we are trained to fight with aggression/ take aggression, so when we smash the judo peoples heads or move them around alot they cant react the same way we do.

>>733534072
Another person who doesnt know shit. Judo is the sport version Jujitsu.

In a 1v1 situation I'd much rather be a high level BJJ practitioner than a high level in Judo or Wrestling.

The problem comes in when you start choking out the one guy, and another guy comes up and kicks you in the head. You cant wrestle, bjj, judo, or box your way out of that shit.

Avoidance is key. Being a well rounded fighter is also helpful. I train bjj, would love to add some judo/wrestling as well as boxing, eventually.

>>733536196
agreed but what i was getting at was as a pure concept of who beats who, best way to measure is from the best of the best not with average joe, to many variables happen at lower levels, its way more technical, even up to college (for wrestling) thats why alot of college wrestlers cant make it to the usa olympic team

>>733534452
why the fuck would you assume bjj if someone said wrestling?

Vague question. If you're talking Grappling, a form of wrestling, then yes it beats any form judo. Most other wrestling forms lose to most forms of judo.

>>733535891
And maybe he is suddenly aware of how full his bladder is and seizes the opportunity to take a piss. Then you got him by the dick.

There are a million variables that go into a fight. Talking about a very minute set of circumstances gets asinine.

>>733536414
> If you're talking Grappling, a form of wrestling
wut

>>733536225
It sounds like you wrestling guys rely on strength and aggression (as well as technique) but going up against someone trained to exploit that explosive aggressive, take your feet from under you and keep you locked till you are cold. I dunno, I've seen many a trained wrestler get taken down by Judo and BJJ athletes and vice versa ;)

>>733536414
name the forms since your so informed

>>733531110


JUDO. IF YOUR OPPONENT SURVIVES THE THROW,JUDO HAS SUBMISSIONS.

YOU WONT SURVIVE A THROW ON CEMENT. TRUST ME.

>>733536636
your right at the lower level of the sport, im talking higher tier, where everyone on the team was an us olympic team member...

>>733536697
throwing a good wrestler isnt all that easy

>>733536318
No, judo is the sport version of jujutsu. The only thing it has in relation with bjj is that both derivate from the same style.

>>733536377
I am dabbling with boxing just to deal with multiple attackers which is something my coach takes seriously. Totally agree with avoidance because attackers dont travel alone unless they are competent themselves and a rear naked choke isnt doing you many favours if his mate is stabbing you with a kitchen knife

>>733536789


HE'S NOT ASKING WHO WOULD WIN A FIGHT YOU NIGGER.HE'S ASKING WHICH ART IS MORE AGGRESSIVE FOR STREET DEFENSE. THE ODDS OF FIGHTING A COMPETENT WRESTLER ARE SLIM TO FUCKING NONE ON THE STREETS.IF YOU FIGHT IT WILL BE DRUNK IDIOT.

SAYING THAT I HAVE TOSSED TONS OF WRESTLERS AROUND IN TRAINING BUT I TRAIN IN KOSEN PRE USA PUSSY RULES JUDO.

>>733536821


ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? THE GROUND WORK OF JUDO IS EXACTLY LIKE BJJ YOU RETARD. SOURCE: ME. BB IN BOTH JUDO AND BJJ. FOR STREETS JUDO IS 100% BETTER SINCE YOU WON'T END UP ON THE GROUND IF YOU ARE A JUDOKA.

greco roman wrestling vs judo?

>>733537496

JUDO HAS MORE WEAPONS. IF YOU TAKE KOSEN JUDO IT HAS WRESTLING TAKE DOWNS PLUS A LOT MORE. I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH WRESTLERS UNLESS THEY CROSS TRAINED.

>>733537654
holy shit enought of the caps lock

>>733537692


IF WE WERE FACE TO FACE I WOULD HANE GOSHI YOU SO BAD YOU WOULD BE NOTHING MORE THAN A BAD MEMORY FOR MUMMY.

>>733537801
not if I kick you in the face fgt

>>733537391
Yes their ground game is the same because they both come from the same martial art.
Also stop with the capslock

>>733533383
Strength is a bigger advantage in grappling than it is for striking, the less dynamic the grappling the more of an advantage. If you're talking "how would I do against..." then you'd do better against a judoka than a BJJ guy or similar skill. However strength doesn't mean anything if you're untrained. I haven't done anything atletic in a decade but I used to do a ton of judo and kickboxing and I'm 100% sure I could take out a 350lb linebacker in a fight if he was untrained. It just doesn't matter. A trained fighter vs an untrained man might as well be a fully grown man fighting a child.

>>733531110
Wrestling hands down, specifically free style. I've done both and can say comfortably in a street fight or situation where there's limited rules wrestling comes out on top

>>733537874

YEP, I'M SURE A 300POUND 5'2" FAG IS KICKING ME IN THE FACE YOU FUCKING RETARD.

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>>733537391
>appeal to authority
Prove why you're right rather than sucking your own dick.

>>733537972
YOU NEVER TRAINED RETARD. POST A PIC.I GUARANTEE YOU NEVER TRAINED A DAY IN YOUR LIFE.I CAN TELL BY THE UTTER SHIT YOU JUST POSTED

>>733532316
>Which one wins in an aggressive confrontation?

OP is talking about a straight up fight. Somebody practiced in Judo would still take the opportunity to kick somebody when they are down if it was really a no holds barred fight and not just a sparring match.

This is what Krav Maga is all about. It about real world fights for your life, not coreographed dancing like a lot of "martial arts". Krav Maga is what you want when some crackhead pulls a knife on you in an alley.

>>733531110
Judo usually comes out ahead. Both are point based sports and both have very aggressive and well conditioned practitioners. Not having clothes on a wrestler isn't a big problem for a judoka, they have plenty of techniques that work when there are no clothes.

The advantage is that a judoka knows arm locks and chokes and being on your back isn't a problem in judo point wise whereas wrestlers have an instinct to avoid that kind of posture. Wrestlers are great athletes and its a real contest what you're asking here but it's like asking who wins in a fight between an MMA guy and a boxer. The MMA guy just has some skills the boxer doesn't and that makes the fight lopsided.

Most wrestler vs. judoka matchups end up with the wrestler trying for a double leg takedown on the judo player (because judo is done in a more upright posture this makes a double leg almost irresistible to a wrestler) and if it doesn't succeed the judo player is now on top and goes for a choke or if it does he's now on the bottom and goes for a choke, and the wrestler just has no experience defending a choke.

https://youtu.be/YN9GGIJdDZk
bjjj fighter gets pwned by greco roman wrestler

>>733538230


I CAN'T YOU FUCKING RETARD. REASON IS A COMPETENT JUDOKA OR WRESTLER WOULD BOTH BADLY AND COMPLETELY FUCK UP 99% OF UNTRAINED IDIOTS ON THE STREETS.

STREET FIGHTS ARE RARE AND IF THEY DO HAPPEN IT'S USUALLY A DRUNK OR HIGH GUY. OTHERWISE IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING ROBBED OR JUMPED.

OP ASKED WHICH IS MORE "AGGRESSIVE". I SAY JUDO DUE TO THE MORE BROAD STAND UP ATTACKS AND THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW...YOU LEARN TO CHOKE AND BREAK THINGS.

>>733538402
Get all Israeli Special Forces on them and snap their neck

>>733538359
calm down

>>733538402


GTFO OUT JEW. I WENT TO A MONI AZIK KRAP MAGA SEMINAR AND IN FREE SPARRED I FUCKED UP HIS 5'4" "BAD ASS EX IDF" ASSISTANT EASILY. IT'S ALL SHIT.

>>733538599
>I can't have a level headed and intellectual discussion with facts and logical reasoning
>you're the retard

>>733538402
wrestling and judo are incredibly similar and neither one has striking. yeah they might throw some punches from a top position but it probably wont be their go to

>>733538599
>OP ASKED WHICH IS MORE "AGGRESSIVE". I SAY JUDO DUE TO THE MORE BROAD STAND UP ATTACKS AND THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW...YOU LEARN TO CHOKE AND BREAK THINGS.
having broad training doesn't make you more aggressive it just gives you more things you can do if you be aggressive in the first place

>>733538512


WHAT IS THE CONTEXT RETARD?

WHAT BELT IS THE BJJ GUY? HOW MUCH EXPERIENCE DOES THAT WRESTLER HAVE RETARD

>>733538765


ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? THEY SHARE TWO TAKE DOWNS. THAT'S IT THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE YOU FUCKING IMBECILE

>>733538912
video says nothing but they're both the same size

>>733539273
>https://youtu.be/YN9GGIJdDZk


NO YOU FUCKING IMBECILE. THE "WRESTLER" COMMENTS ON YOUTUBE AND STATES HE IS A BJJ GUY WITH WRESTLING EXPERIENCE YOU DUMB FUCK. EITHER WAY HE DOES JACK SHIT EXCEPT PIN HIM DOWN. THE FIGHT WOULD END WITH NO ONE WINNING

>>733538992
theyre a lot alike. judo is wrestling with a jacket and pants on

>>733538512


did you watch the fight idiot? the wrestler gets tapped out.

>>733539413
oh yeah I didn't check the comments sorry
I thought pinning him down counts as a win
tkd blackbelt btw

>>733531110
Judo is great, but wrestling would win 8/10 times. It doesn't rely on a gi and is more versatile overall. Not to mention its emphasis on good ol' fashion pound-for-pound strength and power. A good 150 lb. wrestler can manhandle an average 200 lb. person.

>>733531110
wrestling is a sport, judo is for self defense

>>733539420


YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD AREN'T YOU?

YOU DO REALIZE THAT MOST JUDO SCHOOLS SPLIT THE TRAINING 50/50 BETWEEN STAND UP AND GROUND WORK HUH CUNT? AND YOU REALIZE WRESTLING HAS ZERO SUBMISSIONS HUH FAT FUCK?
AND YOU ALSO REALIZE MANY OF THE BETTER JUDO SCHOOLS DO NO GI CLASSES RIGHT?

>>733539554
so was that an armbar near the end then? I can't tell what's happening
how did he lose? he literally picked the guys up off the ground

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>>733539571


YOU DIDN'T WATCH THE VID DID YOU LAZY FAT FUCK? WATCH UNTIL THE END.

>>733539835


HE TAPPED AND GOT PISSY AND SLAMMED THE DUDE WHEN HE LET UP.

>>733539856
>fat
I'm skinny asf my nigga

>>733538729
>GTFO OUT
Get the fuck out out

>>733533383
The main thing is anticipation.

I had to put a halt to being a "martial artist" - injury and job relocation, but being roughly your size was definitely an advantage. My last tournament, a wee little man faked me out - dude was amazing, basically led me into a reversal of a guillotine choke, and ... spun? The guy did some messed up skateboard trick with my arm as balance point and fulcrum and dislocated my shoulder. He knew that I'd brace and lift him because I thought that was an actual advantage I had.

Up until that moment, and in a few security matters since, expecting what someone will do, and acting upon it before they can react is the first real line of defence. Being able to overpower others is almost a distant second.

>>733539554


YEAH HE ALSO GETS HIS ARM BROKEN AND THROWS A KICK TO HIS HEAD.

20 years of mma shows wrestling wins more often

>>733539787
most judo schools have shit groundwork and train towards competition rules which are getting more and more restrictive

>>733534072
You have this backwards. Judo and Jiu Jitsu are the most similar.. and everyone who does either know this. Judo just focuses more on standing.. BJJ on ground..

>>733533383


IT WILL MATTER IF YOU ARE THE SAME SKILL LEVELS. FOR EXAMPLE: IF YOU FIGHT A GUY WHO IS SMALLER AND SAME SKILL LEVEL YOU HAVE THE ADVANTAGE.

IF THE DUDE IS MORE SKILLED THAN YOU, HE WILL NEGATE THE SIZE DIFFERENCE WITH TECHNIQUE AND EXPERIENCE. ALSO, DEPENDS ON HOW SLOPPY AND OUT OF SHAPE YOU ARE ,OF COURSE. IF YOU ARE A FAT FUCK AND WEAK THEN YOUR SIZE WON'T BE MUCH OF AN ADVANTAGE. IT WILL MAKE YOU SLOW, SLOPPY AND UNBALANCED.

>>733540260


TRUE. THE RULES ARE FUCKED. THEY EVEN TOOK OUT DOUBLE LEG TAKE DOWNS BUT MANY SCHOOLS DON'T GIVE A FUCK , THEY STILL TEACH OLD SCHOOL JUDO. AT MY SCHOOL WE STILL DO LEG LOCKS .

>>733540146
But all MMA wrestlers have submission defense.. which is outside of standard wrestling. If they don't, things would be different.

>>733540146


HOW SO FUCK FACE? ROUSEY, PARISYAN, AKIYAMA, LOMBARD ETC. HAVE ALL BEATEN TONS OF WRESTLERS.

>>733540547
Lol, listen dick breath you just listed some b rate fighters. Rousey beat a bunch of nobodies. Lombard was good at the lower levels. Top mma guys incorporate both, but for the most part wrestling is dominant

>>733541682


LMFAO. POST YOUR PIC. I BET ROUSEY MAKES YOU EAT YOUR OWN SHIT ON HER WORST DAY...A DAY SHE'S MENSTRUATING TOO.

>>733531110
Between Judo and Wrestling the end result will always be homosexual sex, so I say both would win.

>>733531110
Jared Fogle. Wins. Every. Time.

>>733531110
wrestling. imo. traditionality. simplicity wins

flip a coin OP

>>733531221
judo is basically a japanese version of wrestling

>>733531717
this.

10 years 4th dan black belt here. i could snap kick your gut so hard your spine snaps.

>>733542975


YOU MEAN PRETEND TO , RIGHT?

POINT SPARRING CHINK FAG.

>>733543071
HAHAHA GOOD JOKE MAN

not in authentic TKD you shitkick. we trained force re-distribution. you can't break a free standing board with a snap kick, you don't earn grade.

>>733543389


YOU MEAN A PRE CUT BOARD DON'T YOU SMALL DICKED SLANTY EYES?

Judo for sure. All the locks and throws will wreck the wrestler. Wrestling if very flawed and created for the sport. Judo is for self defense.

>>733543536
HAHAHA YOU GOT IT MAN

if by pre-cut you mean those "rebreakable" boards your trainer got because he couldn't afford to replace wooden board for each grading, no.

>>733543583


OH FUCK OFF DUDE. I HAVE DONE ALL THREE. WRESTLING I HAD NO CHOICE AS MY DAD FORCED ME.

WITH WRESTLERS YOU WILL GET THIS:

- TOUGH AS FUCK
- NEVER GIVE UP
- PRESSURE, PRESSURE PRESSURE
- TOP ATHLETES IN THE WORLD- THEY ARE STRONG AND ATHLETIC AS FUCK

MOST JUDOKA ARE FAT FUCKS. HOWEVER HE DIDN'T ASK JUDO VS. WRESTLING YOU DUMB FUCK.

>>733542975
Thinking like this is what started MMA on its present course.

Sure, someone well versed in Taekwondo can crack ribs like crab legs, but not if his opponent is close enough to be clamping down on your windpipe/veins. With a bit of cross-discipline training, the defence becomes obvious, as does tiiming - when to punch, when to kick, when to choke or bar. A dominant system takes hold, and new systems are made to overcome it. Remember when Militech was a thing?

>>733544437


WHEN HAVE YOU SPARRED A TKD THAT HAS ANY FUCKING POWER IN THOSE STRIKES?

LET THE REAL ATHLETES TALK HERE SON. NO SCOOT...

Folk Wrestler loses when it hits the ground.
Greco Roman Wrestler is a toss up.
Catch Wrestler wins easily.

BJJ Athlete beats both their asses.

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Im a HEMA practitioner, so I dont do any wrestling but I do use hip throws like those in Judo

I would say Judo is more practical, because once on the ground you could resort back to striking. Though wrestling would look way cooler and possibly break the negro's arm

>>733531110
depends on the person using it

there is a great difference between an average wrestler who competes and loses and a college div 1 champion or Olympian with tons of skill

just like there is a big difference in judo between a white belt and a black belt or Olympian with tons of skill

the person with more skill and physical talent will win always

>>733544776
>Im a HEMA practitioner, so I dont do any wrestling but I do use hip throws like those in JudoI would say Judo is more practical, because once on the ground you could resort back to striking. Though wrestling would look way cooler and possibly break the negro's arm
Let a TKD person actually win an MMA event before talking smack.. otherwise it's just Akido.

>>733544776
Got a hairline fracture of the ulna and a dessert-plate sized hematoma at a cross-discipline tournament in February. Incredibly powerful kicks, but no defensive procedure whatsoever.

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>>733545432

What are you on about?

>>733546092
Quote the wrong post.. I failed the interweb today.

>>733531365
are you people retards?

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>>733531221
underrated post of the century

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>>733532620
that was the gayest thing I've seen all day.

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it's better to train in various disciplines for a street fight. You want to be well versed on both the ground game and the stand up. One dimensional fighters are quickly dispatched once they are out of their element. They are like a fish out of water. You have to feel comfortable on your feet and on your back to succeed.

also, don't fight in make believe situations while training. Do some real training and eat a few pouches. this will make you a better fighter.

>>733545123
I thought greko-roman wrestling was part of european martial arts

In equal conditions, wrestling if he can mantain distance, if not, judo. Distance is the key.

But I would not atack someone with judo. Its better for defend yourself